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Hello everyone, welcome to my podcast. Today I'll do a podcast about general differences with my mother. Her name is Vedrana and she is part of the Gen X. Please welcome Vedrana. So Vedrana, nice to meet you and I want to welcome you here on my podcast. Can you tell me please a couple of things about you, what do you like to do in your free time, some hobbies that you like to do? Hello Roko, I'm honoured that you invited me in this podcast. Of course, you know I'm a member of the Gen X and I'm quite different from your generation. You know we were, I don't know, today I have some hobbies. I like to paint, I like to decorate, I like to shoot. You know, I don't know how familiar are you with this kind of hobbies but I really like to do them. Okay, nice. Do you have some like another things to do in your free time? Do you have some pets, dog or whatever? Of course, I have a dog. When I was young, we didn't have so much time to spend in our house, you know, only television. My generation, computers, I don't know, slowly come and we were so, you know, so focused on other things like walking, I don't know, going to the nature and this stays with me. Today I live the same way, you know, I have a pet, I used to go with him so much time in nature, I don't know, walking, meeting with my friends, sit on a coffee. So you like to spend time in nature rather than being home on social medias, watching TV and stuff like that? Yes, yes, because I don't know, I have friends from my generation which like that way of living, you know, we gather, we talk, we, I don't know, drink coffee, go to the movies, I don't know, talk about fun things face to face rather than do it online like your generation preferred it. Yeah, okay, so... That's the thing we are different. Yeah, so this podcast is about differences between generations as you said, so let me ask you a question, what do you think about these new generations, like, do you like them or you are not like referred to them? I think that every generation brings some newcomers, you know, we were a generation with tight human touch, you know, talk face to face, you are zoomers, you know, you also do the things, I don't know, express your emotions, talk to your, you know, talk with yourself, but you do it online, you know, you can express your emotions by, I don't know, in some kind of emoticon, if you are angry, I don't know if you like something, but you miss that human touch, I don't know, that warmth or anger which caused by some situation, you know, I can tell to my friends everything which I like, and we can debate on the place with ourselves, you know, if you do it online, you can see that thing, you know, you can feel it, so I prefer to sit with someone to tell him what he wants, I can feel his expression on the face, you know. You like doing face to face? Yes, yes, I prefer that much more than doing, I don't know, online or… On social media. …texting messages or through media, you know, the only my connection with this human generation is that I use face and Instagram, but much lesser that you use it because you are, I can tell that you are so attached to that, you know, and detached from that, that this is my kind of hobby, my kind of relaxation, but you depend on that, you know, you can evaluate yourself through this media like, I don't know, or Instagram or face, you know, how much people like you, this is that which you need, you know, I need it, need that feeling with someone when I sit, I need it to hear that, you know. You need to feel it. Exactly when I sit, yes, I need to feel it right by myself, you know, but your generation needs to feel it, I don't know, through likes, through this… Through social media, they prefer to feel it through social media. Of course, of course, you are recognized and you get some, you know, credibility through that social media. It's the same, you know, like we were younger, we go out, we have mingling, hang out, you know, and we also know who likes us, we can see by our own eyes, you know, but you can see now how many likes you get, how many engagement. I have another question for you. I have another question for you. Can you please, like, explain us a little bit how was, how was the life when you were growing up? It was, I think, I assume it was much different from now, so can you please, like, say a couple of things, like, what was different or if there was anything that was the same as today? Well, listen, we were much more equal, you know, when I was in my school, we had uniforms, you know, we were equal. We didn't know how someone's parents had money, their wealth, or are they poor, you know. The only difference between us, especially in the school was, what mark did someone get was A, B, C, you know, because there wasn't percentage so much. So, there wasn't, like, so many, so many differences that you can, that you could see from one person to another? No, no, we were equal, you know. And what about, what about, what about the technology and that stuff? So, we had a television, you know, we had a television, but we had only one TV in our home, you know, we didn't have so much privacy. So, when we watched TV, we were all, you know, we were gathered in front of the TV. You were all, you were all together in one, in one room watching TV? Yes, we didn't have a privacy, you know, we had a time for, I don't know, for news, for animation, I don't know, we were watching cartoon in exact time, you know, we didn't have a privacy. We hang out a lot, you know, I appreciated my circle of friends, we had a large group, we go out, we go cycling, I don't know, we go on training, we learned together, you know. But I feel like, especially the biggest, the biggest difference was, like, people were spending more time together outside rather than being on social media. Yes, of course, you know, we had sometimes a chance, my friends and I sometimes go out, sit in the nature, and take our books, you know, and study together, you know, it's that kind of life. And we helped each other, you know, you have some now, you have everything online. Yes, you can find everything online. Exam? Yes, you can find, I don't know, the solution on internet, situation in my life, you know, we sit together and try to figure it out together, how to, I don't know, how to pass that exam, you know, other things, you know, but now you can do it by yourself, you know, you have a lot of applications, you, I don't know, you put some things, you put some problem that you need from your school and they gave you solutions. Yes, and you know, that's why probably we used to hang out, because someone was a better pupil, someone was a, I don't know, someone was better in math than someone was better in English. Yes, and we, you know, we helped each other, but today this is not the case, but that's why probably you are so intelligent, you know, because you are raised with a mobile in your hand, you know, also the difference which I see between your generation and my generation, you know, I started to study English when I was 12 years old, you know, I only see it on the television. I think today people like, especially younger kids, they start to learn English when they were 5 or 6, because they see everything online. Yes, and some, even my younger kids, who are 8 years old, play the games, I don't know, watch TikTok, they already know English. But what do you think, like, does that new technology, does it have a good or bad effect on younger people? Well, actually, it has good, but also has bad, because it's like you are solitude, you know, you are detached from each other, you know, because you first sit in your room at home, prefer dating, I don't know, talking, applying for the job, in your foreign world, you know. You can do everything from your bed, from your room. Yes, you meet the human touch, you know, you want to go on a trip, you want to see someone, and try to think, you know. But I think, I think that the fact that younger generation, also, like, there's a couple of, for sure, some percentage of older generation, I think they lose sense of, like, social skills and the way how to approach to people, because they spend so much time on social media, so they don't know how to react in face-to-face. So I think that's, like, the biggest, like, bad thing that happened to people who are so much connected online, rather than being face-to-face. Of course, you know, so this generation raised them. You know, everything is perfect on Instagram, on face, you know. Everyone wants to be perfect. You know, when I go to fitness gym, me, myself, I go because I want to be helped. But most of your generation go to that training, not to be helped, you know, they are not aware of these things. They want to look beautiful, you know, because... They want other people to say, oh, look at him, look at her, she is looking beautiful. I want to be like them. Yes, yes, of course, that's the main answer. And I also feel like, I feel like if someone is not like that, then they have, like, big problems, because someone is perfect, like, perfect, what they mean is perfect. Then that guy or girl is bullying them, because they are not the same. And I think that's also the big part of this new generation. And especially if someone knows that it's not, like, good looking or rich as someone else, they're going to do some bad things, they are not good just to be like them. Yes, of course, and I think that, you know, as much as you do this kinky, not usual stuff, you are much more popular, you know, because everything which is not normal, it's not, you know, trusted. Yeah. Today, today, today, it's not. To do something different. Yeah. It's to be a popular. Yeah. But, you know, the good thing about your generation, I don't know, it's easier to find a job, because everything is global. It's not a problem, you know, for... I mean, of course, there's a lot of positive things from this new technology. World goes forward. I mean, we can see from, like, there's a lot of new medicines, new stuff to kill, I don't know, cancers and stuff like that. Technology to, as you said, to find a job, it's more easier. So I feel like... You can work from one country to somewhere. Yeah, to another country, yeah. But, you know, in my generation, you need to sit in a car and go for a meeting, and now you turn on the Zoom and make a full appointment and do all the stuff online, you know. And I feel like the people, people can be, can be, like, more, more connected when they are not together. I mean, we have all the, all the WhatsApp, all the things to call them when they are on another part of the planet. And I feel like that is also a good thing about this new generation. Yeah, that makes you much more tolerant. In our generation, you are much more tolerant, you are aware of some varieties, that's a good thing. But, you know, I think that we have a couple of years ago, the COVID situation, do you remember that? And I think that the COVID situation contributed for this. Of course. Of course, since you were in school, then you remember, you couldn't mingle, you couldn't, it was online. And since you were 10 years in that situation, you're used to it, you know, it's normal for you. I think that's the main thing you did. I mean, there's also, there's also a lot of, a lot of trends and stuff that someone makes for other people, and then people want to be like them or to do it just because they're famous. And of course, that's also like one bad, bad part of all these TikToks and all of the social medias. And how do you feel? How do you feel? Everything is shallow, everything is shallow, you know, from the clothes that we buy, you know, when I, when I was younger, I had one Levi's for one year, you know, I'm watching them. But today, you can buy, I don't know, sneakers, other things, you wear it a couple of days, and you can sell it. Yeah. Food, what you eat, you know. I don't know much, your parents work so much long, and much of your parents bring their home, bring their work at home, you know. Yeah, yeah. When my mom used to cook me, she needs to spend a couple of hours to make a meal. Yeah. But today, you know. Everything is faster, just put it in the microwave or somewhere in the dumps. Yeah. That's why you eat maybe junk food, something like that. Everything is shallow. That's why it's shallow, you know, to be famous. Not that you work hard. Yeah. But also, I feel like, I think that today, we were talking about the clothes and sneakers. Today, it's not important that you are, you have sneakers to go. I think the most important thing is that something is expensive. And if you buy expensive things that you can say to your friends or to someone else, or even to post it on social media. Oh, look, I bought a sneaker that cost this much and this much. I think this is mostly in younger generations because it's a new thing. It's a new trend. And all of people, like, all of them care only about the price and how much something costs. And I think that's also the bad part of technology. Yes, I think it bothers me because you lose the perception, you know. Yeah. So, you work so hard. You can't spend that money with other people. Yeah. You know, you don't go for a dinner, you don't know, to have these little things that make you happy. You work to buy things, put it on Instagram and make you famous, you know. You work hard to look nice. Today, it's important just to fit in to some group or some, I don't know, just so you can feel that you fit in, that you are not alone. And there's also a couple of cases where people were not able to buy something or have something to fit in, and there were a lot of problems with them. Of course. And I'll ask you one more question. This is going to be the final question. Do you think that with this new technology and how it's going fast and forward, do you think our world can be a better place or we need to change something? Sure. We have food for the earth and we were only living creatures, but today, with the technology, it's also important, you know, and it's getting stronger and stronger. We need to be aware of this, that we are not alone anymore. But I feel like if we are... Yes. Yeah. And I think that it won't be much better. You think it won't be much better? I think if we all come together and say, okay, we have to change something because this is not going to be good. I think if we all come together and say, okay, I think we can make some changes. But I feel like the people who are on the... the leading people who have some rights to do things, they don't care about that. So I think that that's not going to happen because people who are leading, they only care about themselves and how much they're going to make, how much money are they going to be worth. So I think with those people, it's hard. It's hard to do that. I don't. They only care about themselves. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the only thing that we can do is hope that someone else can come and change something in a positive way. Listen, it won't be easy because as much as we spend our time, as much as we imagine, as much as we use, you know, and start to be dependent on that, nothing's going to change. It will be maybe much worse because as I read and watch this IE, every day is getting stronger and it's going, you know, in every part of our lives. I don't think that it will be much better. Okay, thank you. Thank you for your honest opinions and thank you for sharing this story with us. I'm truly thankful that you put some time on the side to be part of this little podcast and this little interview. I hope that we're going to change something in the future and I hope you'll do good in your life and I wish you all the best. Thank you and you too. See you.