Reconciling Science and Religion

The video discusses reconciling science and religion by exploring the role of psilocybin mushrooms. The speaker believes that both science and religion can be true at the same time. They suggest that Christianity may have been influenced by the effects of mushrooms, which can induce visions of heaven and sacred geometry. The speaker argues that different religions may have originated from similar psychedelic experiences. They also mention the ability to feel and emit energy while on mushrooms, comparing it to the Force in Star Wars. The speaker acknowledges the need for scientific proof but cites examples of individuals who have had similar experiences. They conclude by suggesting that these experiences may involve energy without mass. Hi, so this video today is about reconciling science and religion, and I believe that psilocybin and mushrooms have been a sort of missing link throughout time. So first, I kind of want to start out by saying that I think both parties are actually right. So someone who, like Ricky Gervais, for example, is a very public figure, atheist, very much believes in everything to do with science, and the day of evolution is true, and all of these things. And I also believe that that is true. And in terms of religion, I want it to be very similar to what I mean by what it means to be true. So I want to make a case today where both of these things can be true simultaneously and don't actually co-exist together. So what I mean by religion, we first kind of have to talk about mushrooms and what that leads into. There's been a theory right now that Christianity, for example, was like a mushroom cult. And as someone who's done mushrooms and someone who has seen the effects of it, I very much believe that to be the case. And after doing mushrooms, I can see its influence in pop culture and throughout history. And so I think if we wanted to talk about Christianity, we should talk about where these people got these ideas. So for example, the Pythagoreans, a long time ago, the people who started math, they were a secret society, essentially, and I actually have the definition of their society here. It was a divine brotherhood, a secret society dedicated to the combination of scientific and mystical precepts. And yeah, that definitely sounds like people who did mushrooms, and the reason I say that is because when you do mushrooms, you see sacred geometry overlaid over all of the rocks, overlaid all of the trees, all of the water, anything you're looking at, you will very much start to see the sacred geometry. And what I mean by overlaid is that the rock actually becomes that shape, or the sacred geometry is revealed inside the rock. So when your eyes are looking at the rock, you're sort of looking at the edge, you're looking at the outline, but when you do mushrooms, all of the lines that you're particularly looking at are of sacred geometry, and it's accentuated by the rock, it reveals itself within the rock, or when I say rock, because I've seen it mostly in rock. So yeah, another thing is that, because I have many friends who have done this as well, and we've had conversations about this, and I am the only one out of the other people who have seen heaven, and so what the Christians call heaven, so the sky opened up, you saw, you looked up at the sky, and you immediately realized, well this is what they mean by heaven, you feel like there's millions of souls in this place, you immediately know that you came from there, and you immediately know that when you die, you're going to go there. So, and there's this most incredible sense of love and compassion emanating from this space in the sky. So I just want you to imagine that you were some person way back when, thousands of years ago, you took some mushrooms, and I opened up, and you saw what heaven is, you saw this place and you called it heaven, you'd be like, wow, yeah, I really should, it's a very humbling experience. What I don't think is particularly great, it's that people saw that, and then they wrote about it. They wrote a bunch of rules and a bunch of things around it, and I'm not saying that all of Christianity is true, or should be taken literally, or anything like that, what I'm saying is, a long time ago, they literally saw heaven as I've seen it, and they wrote about it. And then they wrote a bunch of other stuff around that, too, and did a bunch of allegories and things like that. It's also important to know that back then, church and state weren't separated, so the will of the kings or queens, or the will of the state, were rooted in religion, and one of the best ways, one of the most important things in warfare, is the motivation and the morale of your people, to get them riled up, to give them a reason to fight, like, a reason to fight is way more important than, say, the weapons you have, because the moment you lose the will to fight, it doesn't matter what weapons you have, it doesn't, it really doesn't matter. I'm not interested in fighting, so I won't fight, you don't care what weapon you're holding. So what they would say is, those people over there don't like your God, or are heathens, or whatever, and that really meant a lot to you, because God was alive at that moment. I'm referring to the moment when Nietzsche said, God is dead, that's a really big distinction in time. So before then, when you walked into a church, for example, everything had a much more dramatic meaning than it is, because you just feel like you're walking into a museum now. So anyway, that's what I mean by heaven, and so, okay, yeah, so not all of Christianity is great, but then you could say, well, when people say, like, all of religion is saying the same thing, what I want people to understand is, it probably came from that. So when I saw that, when I saw heaven, I said, okay, well, I know I'm going to go there when I die, and I know that I came there, I know that I came from there. So when you have the Hindu religion, or the Buddhist religion, you have this idea of reincarnation, and that cyclical nature totally makes sense, I could totally see how you would, because why not, right? If I came from that, if my soul, for example, came from that place, and I'm going to go there when I die, who's to say I'm not going to come back again, right? So my understanding is that these people, way back in the day, in different parts of the world, saw the same thing, and then created a different religion of seeing heaven. It's not so much that things are to be literally taken, see how they would write different things about it, like, your thought process is very different, depending on what you saw from the same thing. Even if you go to a museum or something, and you ask your friend, like, what do you think of this picture? You're going to have a really different interpretation than what they think, so that's how you kind of get different religions. And we have to say, well, you could say, well, you're just hallucinating, but if everybody is hallucinating the same thing, then that's not a hallucination. If people back then saw heaven, if I saw heaven, if a bunch of other people saw it, that's not a hallucination. That's very much real. A hallucination is supposed to be random. It's supposed to be something random. The only difficult part is that it's not guaranteed that you're going to see heaven. When you do mushrooms, it talks about a hero's journey or whatever, and you're supposed to take a heroic dose, which means more than five grams. But other people who have done that haven't seen heaven, so that is something I can't really explain. We have to now substantiate, can this exist and it not break any of the rules of physics or anything like that? Also, all of these scientists need proof, right? We need it to be verifiable, and we need it to be measurable. Okay, so, well, I can give you evidence about a bunch of people who have seen it, right? So for example, William Blake, he definitely saw it because he's drawing pictures that look exactly like heaven. And a bunch of other people, too. Well, obviously all those Christians saw it. Obviously the people who created the Hindu religion saw that. And then a couple other... Well, first I want to talk about... We're going to get to that. But first I want to talk about other things that happen when you see mushrooms that are more common. And one of them is the ability to sort of shoot energy out of your hands when you are on mushrooms. This sort of energy that's emitting from you. And that's a very common thing. And so, for example, obviously other people have seen this, too. I've experienced that. It's really interesting. It's very similar to the force in Star Wars. And obviously, in my mind, as soon as I did mushrooms and then I remembered what Star Wars was like, I was like, oh, this is exactly the same thing. Except you just can't move any objects. It just looks... There's just a really visible, truly visible energy emitting from your hands. It's in waves. It's really noticeable on something slight or whatever. Sometimes people can feel this energy emitting between two people in regular life. If you really love somebody and you're really connecting and your eyes are locked, and they're locked for like 40 minutes, like an hour, you just stare at each other and you eventually will see this energy sort of coming between you. It was interesting to listen to... There was a comedian recently. I'm going to put his name in the video because I can't remember it. I'm going to look it up and I'll put it in the video later. But he was telling me this story of when he was on the road with this woman and she would press her forehead against his forehead when they were making out. She was pressing so hard into my head that it was super painful. But I've experienced that connection with somebody where there's this energy emitting from their mind and it's connecting with yours and it's the most wonderful feeling you could possibly feel. It probably has something to do with love, but you close your eyes and you can feel it. And it's not like if you touched your head to another part of their body or something you'd feel the same thing. It's really forehead to forehead. So I have experienced that incredible sense of love and connection and it was interesting because this girl obviously felt that before too and she was trying to get it with this comedian, but he couldn't feel it. So that's a really common thing. So what are these things that we're seeing? And I'm not a physicist, but I would describe it as energy and I would describe it as, well, energy without mass. Okay? And I don't know if we can actually have that, but if we're able to actually measure energy without mass, then I think that's what that is. Because obviously something like in Star Wars when they had the force that came out of doing Pythagoreans, they saw mushrooms, they saw sacred geometry and they were trying to study that, which led to the field of math now, which is very disconnected from that. And it became much more like... But yeah, I think in order to bridge these gaps, could we measure energy that doesn't have any mass? Because if we wanted to really... Because basically you'd have to measure somebody's soul or somebody's consciousness or whatever. And when I went to university, I talked to my professor and I said, what's the best literature you have on consciousness? And they said, I. And I read that, their study, and they basically said they were trying to measure different levels of consciousness based on how many neurons are firing per minute. But then eventually their conclusion was that consciousness is sort of existing in and of itself, meaning that there's no... The way that they were measuring made it impossible to distinguish consciousness from different brain activity. And am I more conscious than, say, a frog? But we're both alive, and then what would be different? What's the difference between being alive and being conscious, or consciousness and a soul? I'm not entirely sure, but the existence of heaven and being able to see all of these souls in the sky would lead you to believe that, well, there's energy that doesn't have mass. And the reason I'm really harping on that is because I want to be able to prove that both of these things can be true simultaneously. This doesn't break the rules of physics at all. So all of evolution and everything, and all of the science that is verifiably true is true, and the existence of heaven, what the Christians call heaven, what the Hindus refer to, like, when they go when they die, and then they come back from space, or whatever. That's what I'm talking about. And I did a study a long time ago where they were measuring people, their weight when they died, because they wanted to see if the soul had weight, and it was inconclusive. So some people would lose weight, and some people didn't when they died. And we can't really pass an ethics committee from doing that. But the only explanation of that is that if we could measure energy without mass, that would reconcile both things, right? That would reconcile the existence of a consciousness or of an energy that exists inside people, and when you die it leaves, and then that sort of pure energy will come back into a living being. And it was really interesting, like, for pop culture, when you have, when I saw, like, the original Star Trek, and they'd have these, like, higher beings or whatever, and these higher beings were, like, pure energy. That's what they would say in those old episodes, and that is kind of what is really, really similar to these, like, souls that are in heaven. Even, like, in the Christian religion, too, I've just seen heaven. I haven't seen God. I haven't seen, like, hell, for example. And I have my own theory about hell. I'll just tell you it right now. It's interesting. The word hell came from this place outside of Jerusalem, which is a walled city, where they used to throw their garbage. And it's really important that Jerusalem is a walled city, because everybody, personally, is affected psychologically by a bunch of different walls. And more importantly, like, the story of the Buddha, he escapes this walled city. He escapes, but it's more metaphysical, like, I believe that your parents, like, your father, in a sort of archetypal way, the archetypal father is supposed to guard you physically. He's the physical barrier to all these problems around you. And the sort of archetypal mother is supposed to be a sort of safe place emotionally. But both of them together create this really beautiful wall that protects you from the chaos of the universe, or the chaos of the unknown, by them together. You are protected by the walls of your parents. And then outside of that, on sort of the next level, you're protected by the walls of your friends. These people, you can go to them when you're having problems. You can go to them, you know, with anything, and feel a sense of community with these people. You feel very close to them. They're a barrier between you and the theory of the unknown. You can count on them, and that creates this really powerful wall against that. And then on the next level, you have your community. So, like, if I go to my local university, it looks like I belong there. People smile at me, people talk to me, strangers talk to me. I can go up to the professor and start talking to them, and they'll, you know... But that's it. Three walls. And Jerusalem is a walled city. So... And hell is a place outside of that. So imagine being outside of those walls of your friends, your family, and your community. So not having a family, not having any friends, and being outside the walls of your community. And I can prove that to you, what being outside the walls of your community is like. So, when I'm sitting in, say, the student union building in my university, it's a big, bustling place, and a bunch of tables, people eating. But you look around, and everybody looks like they belong. So it's not a person who's out of place. It's not about race, or it's not about what you're studying, or the clothes you're wearing. Some people are wearing sweatpants, and some people look disheveled, but you don't know. Those are students. Sometimes you'll have parents come in, but you know that, you know, they're parents. And a bunch of old people, and you're like, oh, it's probably a professor or an alumni. There's a couple people that you see very rarely. You see them all the time, because they like to use our amenities and stuff. But they belong there. So now, imagine you're in this place, this bustling place, and a homeless person walks in. You would immediately realize that, oh, they don't belong here. They're not as affiliated with this university. They're an outsider. They're an other. They're an other person. You would feel very uncomfortable, and you would know that. It doesn't matter the race of the person. It doesn't matter the age of the person, or the gender of the person. If you're a homeless person, and you walked into my Student Union building, at the heart of my university, we would all look at you, and we would all be like, what the fuck are you doing here? That means you're outside the walls of your community. You are other. You are not welcome here. To be unfortunate. It's an unfortunate case, or whatever. But that's what it truly means, to be outside the walls of your community. Now, can you be outside the walls of your community, but inside the walls of your friends, or inside the walls of your family? Potentially. I've never seen that. I've never seen that, though. And so, I think what hell really is, is actually being outside all of those walls. Because now you're truly in this sort of chaos. You really are in this chaos. And you're essentially trash. You essentially would be sort of ousted. And that's what I because I look at some of these homeless people, and I really think that those people are in absolute hell. That would be a hellish experience to be in. And so, that's what I think hell is. I think when they say hell on earth, that's what I really think it actually is. I don't think there is a place you go a bad place you go when you die. If you were a bad person or whatever, you can manifest hell on earth basically in reality. And so, I think these Christians the reason I'm talking about Christian religion is because I just know about it. I just know enough to talk about it. I think they made hell like a childhood sort of version of hell where it's like an actual eternal piss or whatever. I think they made that up so that you would act right. You would actually be inside the walls of your community. You would actually be a reasonable human being and then you would act kind to people so that they would accept you into the community. Or your friends you could actually have friends and have a decent relationship with your family. So yeah, I think that's what hell is. But I think both of these things like heaven and science can both exist at the same time I think to someone like Ricky Gervais if he actually touched mushrooms or something then I think he would have a very different opinion of existence of itself. And it is really interesting like so for example why was Christianity and why was the Pythagoreans like why were these secret cults well just imagine that you actually saw heaven how would that change your life? And you're like oh I'm going to go there when I die and so immediately the fear of death would be gone you wouldn't fear you wouldn't be afraid of dying anymore you'd be afraid of pain you'd still be afraid of failure you'd still be afraid of being ousted from your community and going to hell because that's still a really big problem the fear of death is gone it's like being cold and alone drifting for eternity or whatever like just being gone out for eternity that fear would be totally gone there's a big problem right now in our culture with words of encouragement encouraging people and me being one of these people who has not really received any form of encouragement ever in my life it would be really powerful because you could say well you have all these also because in latin cultures they have this day of the dead and they say the dead are always with you heaven is always there but what's kind of problematic and just in my mind I haven't been able to reconcile this is that if I'm in a certain place on the globe and I look into the sky and I see heaven and William Blake for example I look into the sky and heaven and all these other people who are in different parts of the world look up and see heaven is heaven everywhere then? I don't think heaven would be in a specific place in time I don't think it's a finite thing in time one of the reasons I say that is I did a lot of research on Shiva the dancing god and I'll put a picture up I'm just talking about it from memory right now they have this ring around and that's supposed to identify your consciousness reaching out into every sort of to the very edges of the universe those rings represent the edges of the universe and your consciousness is expanding to all of it which is really absolutely incredible which is kind of what happens when you take mushrooms too your consciousness sort of expands and you're definitely sort of taken to another place um people can have out of body experiences I did have um but that's a story for another time but what I'm saying is um um one of the kind of visions that I saw is that there was these um it's kind of like graph paper but just the lines of graph paper and then they are like um let me just let me just restart this explanation so if you take the length of like a regular door the height of it and you make it it's just a really thin line um straight up in space and it's vertical and it's not transparent but flame flame like golden yellowish reddish um and it's a really thin line and it extends all the way down through earth and all the way up and then imagine a bunch of those arranged in like a bunch of vertical lines for infinity this way and then you have a bunch of them that are um horizontal and and so that would actually form like a bunch of make a bunch of cubes out of this glowing um transparent energy and I saw these like cubes the lines were infinite right so the cubes were made out of just a bunch of vertical and parallel lines vertical and horizontal lines right but they extended to all of space all of to the end of the universe essentially is what it felt like so in my mind it's just like well is heaven just all around us all the time well I think that's what they said in the bible which would kind of make sense um and that would sort of make sense just in terms of I've seen it and people in other cultures have seen it but it would have to be kind of everywhere um and I'm just trying to think of it would be incredibly difficult to like measure this to actually like look up and like see that because it would be like fish trying to measure water it's like all of our equipment everything is dealing with this energy already sort of calibrated with this energy and it'd be like well it's always been here we don't really know how to look for it we're already in it but my but my guess is that it would be energy without mass and that's what your soul is and if we could start to measure that if we were to point this measuring thing into the sky I think we would see a bunch of different things and probably that could be um part of the soul essentially but another like example like another way to just prove this is you would take an atheist and you would give them a hero's journey of mutterings and you'd do that ten thousand times and one or two of them are going to say hey did you see heaven and some of them are going to go yeah and then you know there you go that's your proof um they could just be lying so yeah I don't know how to reconcile that or how about we just take like well we can't no it's not like we can't take celebrities or like if I took like Ricky Gervais for example and told him and gave him mushrooms and said hey did you see heaven I don't know would he would he change his mind? would that be proof? because he's so much against religion um no because he could be lying it has to be verifiable yeah I don't know I don't know but um anyway so that's um um that's the reconciliation between science and religion that um the existence of heaven through seen through mushrooms first all of the religions with their own sort of interpretation of that of the stories that followed him and all the things that go along with mushrooms like sacred hands like sacred geometry like all of those type of things um and culture in terms of things and stories and allegories and um yeah so that's my reconciliation between science and religion thanks for listening