episode 4

The podcast episode features a guest, Caroline, who is the girlfriend of one of the hosts. They discuss the importance of communication in relationships and how it helps them to open up and grow closer. They also talk about the challenges of managing anxiety and stress. They share a quote about true love being the soul's recognition of its counterpart in another, and discuss how love is more than just a feeling, but also a choice. They mention the importance of strong connections and understanding in relationships, both romantic and friendships. They also mention the importance of faith and choosing love despite not always feeling it. Lastly, they highlight Bible quotes about love and how it applies to different relationships in their lives. Can you close this out a little bit? Hello, welcome to the Washi Podcast! Alright, y'all ready? You can just take a screenshot. I don't want to do that on it. We'll do it later. Ready? Is that in the picture? You also have January 4th on the paper. It is February 4th. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Washi Podcast. I'm Azari Pangallo. My name is Cole Bishop. And this is my lovely girlfriend, Caroline Page Sibley. Welcome, Caroline, to the podcast. You are our first featured guest on the podcast. How does it feel to be that first featured guest? Oh, it feels great. You know guys, she just warmed up to you. Break out the ice here. We'll get it. She's very giggly. No, it's actually a pleasure to be on here. I'm glad that they asked me to be on here. Yeah, so she just came up to visit Cole for the weekend, for the day. She lived about two hours or so. She made it a nice drive up, and we thought it was a great idea to have her on the podcast. And, you know, it's going to be a lot of fun. There's probably going to be a lot of laughs. Just be expecting that. It's going to have a different vibe than our usual podcast, so we hope you guys enjoy it. Let's jump right into it. So, like we always do, let's talk a little bit about our week. Personally, I'm going to go first, since y'all can think about it. But for me, you know, this past two weeks have been a little bit of, you know, a journey. We'll say a journey, but I believe it was one day that I was thinking about something, and I really just wanted to talk about it with somebody. I didn't know exactly how to talk to it with people. And then, you know, that night, Cole kindly opened up about it. We don't have to go into the topic, because that's not what's important about it, but he opened up about it before I did. And it was like, we both had the same thoughts going through our head, and we both had, you know, something we needed to talk about, get off our chests. And earlier that day, I was really just like, God, please help me be able to talk to somebody about this. And, you know, someone that could, like, relate specifically to it, so that we could, like, talk to it. And, you know, he did, came to me that day, and we were talking about it, and we probably talked about it for, like, the next two hours while we were playing FIFA that night. It was a great conversation, and, you know, I just felt really blessed to be able to have, you know, Cole in my life, and also the fact that God working through, you know, both of us to inspire both of us to talk about this subject. Because it's not the easiest subject to talk about, but it definitely needs to be talked about among people, and in those interpersonal relationships, you know, it's a little more difficult to talk about just, like, broadly, and with over podcasts and things like that. But having those, like, strong connections to be able to talk about deep personal things like that, it's really special. And I was super thankful that that happened on Monday, and we continued to grow closer through that, and be able to open up to each other more. So that was really awesome, and it happened this week. So what about y'all? My week's been interesting. I've just really been under a lot of anxiety and stress. School. School's wild for me this week. I've got a presentation for the test going on there, and I've got a bunch of stuff that's going on. So my anxiety's really kind of taken control, so it's all about managing that and getting through it. But it's been a decent week so far. We did have good conversations. It was nice to have, just to talk to somebody just about just anything, because I know I can open up to you, and then we can talk. I think another part about that, I just want to put this in here, like, Cole and I both have girlfriends, and they're amazing. I know you guys communicate a lot about a lot of stuff. I communicate with my girlfriend about a ton of stuff. And it's awesome to have those people. And sometimes that boy-to-boy or girl-to-girl connection, being able to relate to on the same gender, is, like, a whole different thing because the gender difference, like, we go through completely different things sometimes that only, like, each other can really relate to. That's why I just wanted to clarify that about, you know, that communication. Yeah, guys definitely understand guys better, I would say. And I think girls definitely understand girls better because we can try, but there's no way I'd understand them. You know, in our workings, especially of her. I think it's just basic anatomy, though. Like, I think that's pretty, I would say that's pretty understood, though, that girls would understand girls better. I think you can understand a girl better than, per se, like, a guy. That's just basic anatomy. Yeah. Kellan, would you like to tell us anything about your week that's been a highlight so far that you'd like to discuss, or? Oh, my week was pretty good. This week at school we had our big Candlemas Mass, which was really nice. I'm in Dose of the Ulcer, so we started a new tradition with lighting everyone's candle, which was very, very neat. So that was the highlight of my week. Awesome. All right, so we're going to jump into our quote from this week, which comes from John Beckwith. He's an entrepreneur from New Hampshire. And this is a love quote. We have two beautiful love birds over here, so we thought we would go with a love relationship type of podcast vibe for today. Okay, so the quote, true love is the soul's recognition of its counterpoint in another. I'm going to read it one more time. True love is the soul's recognition of its counterpoint in another. Would one of y'all like to take away with this with your first initial thoughts? I think, so we were watching a movie. This is from a movie. I don't recommend it, but it's a good movie. Anyway, it was very deep when we first heard it the first time, so I was kind of just sitting there. We paused it, and we were kind of just talking to each other about it for a second just because it was like, dang. That's actually a good definition of true love, honestly. Because in the end, you're really only meant for one other person besides God, and that's your soul's connection is with that other person. And so it was kind of just shocking to me because I've never heard it put that way. Because everyone's always like, yes, love is a feeling is what a lot of people like to say. But I think both of us disagree on that, actually. And love is more of a choice that you make yourself. But in order to be able to make those choices and continue that relationship and continue through fights, your soul has to, in some way, be connected to the other person. And so I saw it, and I was like, dang, that makes a lot of sense, actually. Going back to kind of what Cole said about love being a feeling, and how I think we can oftentimes, like... I think it's been misconstrued, maybe, that that's what it is. Because I think love is what you do to describe how you feel. And I think that has a lot to do with simply just, if your souls are connected, you're not always going to want to do something. But if you love the person, and you truly are in recognition with the other, I think that it makes it... I wouldn't even say easier choice. You don't even think about it. You just do it. Because you love the other person. So, once again, I think that goes into it not being a feeling whatsoever. I love the way you put that right there. And I'm going to relate it a little bit. I'm going to let you guys more be on the relationship side of it, between a man and a woman, the only way relationships should be. I'm going to go more on the God side. Jesus as the groom, ourselves, the whole church as the bride. I'm going to go with that side of it for most of this. But I am going to relate it to what you just said. And that our faith, sometimes, it is really hard to feel our faith. And to be feeling that love and that want to keep pushing through in everything that's going on. Whether it be temptation, whether it be trials, hard times, different things like that. And despite the feeling that we may have at that time, we must continue to choose God and choose love. And continue to follow His commands and choose good. And that is just the basics of that relationship with God. Is being able to do that when your feelings aren't feeling like it. And it's really hard at the beginning when those things happen. Because at the beginning is when you really feel it. And then when that feeling goes away, it's when it becomes a lot harder. That's why they say, I believe, I've seen this before, like 8-10 months. Like if you can make it through 8-10 months, that's when it starts to shift a little bit. Until you don't always feel it at times and you have to do it despite a feeling. And so, I think it's just really cool to be able to choose, despite your feelings, to love. I agree. So I just did a quick Google search of just Bible quotes that included the word love. And just scrolling through, there's so many that it's... I mean, I can't even explain all of them or say all of them. But there's some that I'd like to highlight individually. So first of all, I want to say, this also doesn't just apply to romantic relationships. Or even, it doesn't always just apply simply to, spiritually as well. I think it can also apply to friendships. And because... I can definitely say that there are some people out there that I'm really close friends with. Yourself included, that I really do care for. I really love you guys. Y'all are huge parts of my life. And so, it's really helpful for me to have y'all in my life so I can have some of these talks. She understands me, to a certain extent. I'm a little strange sometimes, but she does understand me. But there's some things that I would talk to you about. There's some things I talk to you about and there's some things I talk to God about. And it's important to be able to separate the three of those. But I'm going to run through some of these just really quickly. The first is 1 Corinthians, chapter 13, verse 13. So now, faith, hope, and love abide, these three. But the greatest of these is love. There's another one I wanted to do. Where is it? I'm going to do another 1 Corinthians. 1 Corinthians, chapter 16, verse 14. Let all that you do be done in love. And then the most famous one, 1 Corinthians, chapter 13, verses 4 through 7. Love is patient and kind. Love does not envy or boast. It is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way. It is not irritable or resentful. It does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. I think this simply reverts back to the choice. It is your choice to love somebody. And this is almost like a guideline for every relationship that you're in. Like, you need to be patient and kind when you love somebody. You need to not boast. You need to not envy. You need to not be rude. You need not be arrogant. Basically, it's kind of laying just ground rules for you to follow. And it all comes back to the choice. If you want to do these things and you want to treat a relationship this way, maybe that relationship will probably end up fruitful. But if you don't follow those guidelines and you turn away from them, that relationship can go down more roads. And it's all your choice. So, if I'm not mistaken, is it Eros is the love that's like romantic love? Is there Eros? Obviously, there's types of Eros love, like Nicole and I have. But my best friend, Anna, actually wrote me a Valentine's letter a couple weeks ago about how, wait, can I see that? Pull up the quote so you can see that. Kind of saying how Valentine's Day, yes, it is meant for love, like relationships, but it's also meant for friendships, for a relationship with your parents, you know. It goes way beyond just romantic love. And if you kind of look at, like, when I see 1 Corinthians 13, verses 4 through 7, I think of my mom. Like, literally, I go through them. My mom is patient and she's kind. She doesn't envy or boast. She's not arrogant or rude to me in, like, an excessive manner. And she doesn't insist always on her own way. Like, if you really look at these things and you can relate them, I think that's a pretty important thing. I think, like Nicole said, using that as guidelines, I think that's really important. Absolutely. And then I'm going to go back to friendships. I got to shout out my boys over here. I'm not, just to aid you so I can't all say your names, the high school boys back there. I was friends with them for, like, literally the entirety of high school. I hung out with them all the time. Like, every weekend we tried new things. And there was a lot of times where we had to be different, what's the word here, combinations of different people had to be, you know, patient and kind and not be boastful and not be envious. And other times they were like, other people have to do that for the other one. And that's the great thing about friendships and, like, whole groups of friends is that it goes back and forth between a lot of different people. And you have to be able to sometimes calm down your friends as well. Like, we get into some crazy sports debates and it's like, bro, you guys are talking about sports. Let's calm down a little bit. But, you know, friendships are really a great way to learn a lot of those things as well because what do a lot of people do with friendships? Like, how do they become friends with people? It's because they, like, like the same things and like to do the same things. Whoa, once you grow into that friendship, what happens when, you know, so one of your friends doesn't want to do something and you want to do something or they want to do something and you don't want to do it? You have to be able to be that patient and kind person and be able to put their will over your other, over yourself, your will, because at the end of the day, the definition of love is willing the good of the other person. And friendships are a great way to do that, especially when you're in a group of friends because there can be a collective group that wants to do something and yourself may not want to do something. I can say for sure that sometimes I haven't been able to do that. Sometimes I was like, dude, I just want to sit on the couch and do nothing and some of the friends would want to go out and do stuff. And that's okay, but sometimes we have to be able to put others above ourselves, if not all the time, be able to do that in friendships. And then I'll go a quick example from yesterday. Last night I was pretty tired, kind of wanted to go to bed, but he called me to play FIFA. He'd been dying all day to play FIFA. We were working yesterday and in the middle of the day, he's like, dude, all I can think about is FIFA right now. And I'm like, all right, all right. And so at the end of the day, he's just laying on the ground on his phone and I was like, are you ready? He's like, what? I'm like, FIFA. And he jumped up off the floor, he was ready to play some FIFA. Sometimes you've got to be able to do those things for other people. And the best thing about doing things for other people and willing to go to the others is seeing the goodness or the satisfaction from seeing the happiness that they receive from doing that for them. And then another example from today is I was at basketball practice with our intramural team and I was helping one of my friends with his jump shot. He started to hit a couple jumpers he was working on. He was getting better. To see him have that satisfaction and hit the jump shot and feeling good about his jump shot was a lot of fun to be able to help someone with that. And it's all out of love. It may not feel like, oh my gosh, I love this person like crazy. But at the end of the day, we are acting out of love and we are doing things out of the goodness of our hearts. And it's a great feeling to see your love lead to something, your expression of love lead to something and see the satisfaction of people from it. Love is interesting. It really kind of blends and boils down into vulnerability. Because in order to love somebody, you have to trust somebody. In order to trust somebody, you have to be vulnerable. So it starts off with vulnerability. And so if you're not, if I have a friend that's in my life and I can't really be vulnerable for them, then I guess in some form or not, I don't love them enough that I trust them with that stuff. And there's some people that I can, but some people are just friends. But some people are more than that. And I think a lot of people struggle with vulnerability today, in today's time, because it's a lot harder to be vulnerable with people. Because, again, I think I talked about this in a previous episode, but I think trust has, what's the word? Something that decreases. Diminished? Diminished. Trust has diminished. Look at the mark on the guy's face. Look at the mark on the guy's face. Yeah, her vocab is a lot better than mine. Trust has diminished over the years. And I think it's gotten harder to make really good friends because I just feel like people don't trust each other as much anymore. And vulnerability is definitely off the wall because if you say something, something you struggle with, some opinion about something, you could get hate immediately. People could turn back and be like, Taylor, you're stupid, and you get shamed for it. But I think as time progressed, it got worse. It used to not be this bad, but I think as time grew, it got worse. And you see people, even with Jesus and his story, he proclaimed his news, but some people weren't willing to accept it. He was vulnerable about his situation, and it ended up with him being crucified for it. And I think as time progressed, people became more vain of themselves, and vulnerability started to become more of an issue, and it wasn't being said as much. Yeah, and I'm going to talk about my relationship a little bit right here with vulnerability. You know, I think that was something that I struggled with personally in previous relationships, and something that I learned and wanted to change. And so when I got and started talking to my girlfriend, it's when it really, I was like, okay, it's time to be vulnerable. And literally, I think it was in the first week or two of our relationship, we were on FaceTime at like 3 in the morning, and I was like, all right, I'm going to be vulnerable. And literally, I sent this text to him originally because I was trying to open myself up, starting with friendships with him and being vulnerable with him. And then I took this same text, this long, vulnerable text about everything that really happened in my life, and my struggles, and different things like that, and all the journeys that I had made. And, you know, I sent this to my, before I was even dating my girlfriend, because I wanted it to be a place of trust where literally anything could be talked about, whether it was something good or bad, whether we had made a mistake or whether we had not made a mistake, so that vulnerable state could be created, so that, you know, relationship could thrive. And I would say it was probably the greatest decision I've ever made because that is exactly what happened once I was able to do this. And I credit her a huge amount for being, like, the perfect person to hear those things, because a lot of people probably couldn't hear that, especially that early on in a relationship. But she's incredibly forgiving and patient and knows how to react to those things. And so just creating a place of vulnerability in all relationships is a very, very special thing to do. And it takes a lot of heart, and it takes a lot of... What's the exact word I'm looking for here? It takes a lot of commitment to really do it because you are showing yourself at a point of weakness, which is really hard for people to do as well. And we were talking about that. Well, we weren't talking about it. Our priest was talking about it at Mass today, was being weak. It's really hard for people to be weak because why would you want to be weak? You want to look like you're a failure, like you want to admit you've made mistakes. But in reality, everyone's done the exact thing. Everyone's made mistakes, been a failure before. And it takes a lot of responsibility to do that. It takes a lot of courage to do that. And really, our priest was going back to this and showing that Jesus really came into weakness for us. He was weak in his own... In the garden, he is literally crying out to God. He is bleeding from when he's praying to God because he feels so weak about what is about to happen. And so it says in Corinthians, Paul is talking about it from the verse today, that he became weak so he could relate to the weak. God up there in heaven, sitting up in heaven all the time, was never going to be able to relate to everyone on earth. But by becoming a human being, by becoming weak in that moment and showing us that he had that vulnerability, that state of vulnerability, he related to every human being. And that's exactly what's so special about Christianity. We have God who became man for us. And the whole reason he did it was out of love, as you talked about. And we're going back to love right there. We go into vulnerability, we go back right there. It's just a beautiful journey, the whole thing. You're going on a full circle here. I love it. I'd love to hear your take first on this. But with both genders, I think there's differences in how they react to weakness. I want to hear yours. I'll talk about guys first. I think guys struggle showing weakness because they like to seem flawless, especially to other guys. And it's all competition. It may not seem like it, but guys think in that mindset, like, I've got to win. Whatever it is, I've got to win. I've got to be bigger than that dude. I've got to be better looking. And it's just how we're created and how we're driven. And so the second you show weakness, it's just kind of like, dang. I'm not better than that person. And I feel like guys react to that a lot different. So I feel like that's why guys are a lot less vulnerable in that instance, because they're afraid to show any sort of weakness. And even to a woman in a relationship, they don't want to show that weakness because they don't want to seem flawed because they're the caretaker. They're the ones who are supposed to go out and work. And not that the women can't work. I'm not saying that. I'm saying their job is to go out and work and care and provide for them. They don't want to seem flawed in that case. So I think that's kind of where the guys take it. And I feel like girls are wired a lot differently than we are. So I'm wondering kind of where your side is. Um, yes, I do think it's true. Guys and girls are wired differently. I believe that. I think girls can sometimes be more petty when it comes to situations. It's kind of where guys get over things I guess a lot faster than girls do. But I think that girls and guys are a lot more similar than we think. Because you're talking about what you struggle with, which is ultimately insecurity. Not being good enough. And I think girls struggle with the same thing. I think we all struggle with not being good enough. I think guys and girls just portray it differently. And I found it really interesting when you said that Paul has become weak to relate to God. And so, or Jesus. And so when you said that, it kind of inspired me because, you know, often times people say that you grow most when you're at your weakest state. And you learn most when you fail. And I think that's really important because in order to move forward and grow, you have to become weak. And you have to sometimes be able to show that. And I just thought that was really prominent. And think about this. Guy, girl. Talking about similar things. And we're talking about true love is the soul's recognition of the counterpoint. Man and woman. Right? The counterpoint for all people, all humans, man and woman, is God. God is our soul's number one counterpoint. That's what we long for. And that's what we thirst for. And that's what we're satisfied by ultimately. Man and woman relationships? Absolutely awesome. They're incredible. But they're never going to be everything that we need. And they're not supposed to be. They were never created to be like that. They're an incredible journey. And they're an incredible thing for us to experience. But the ultimate experience, the ultimate connection, the ultimate... I'm motioning upward. Yeah. Is our soul's connection with our Father, with our Creator, with our ultimate lover, God. And that is just a beautiful thing to talk about right there. Now we could go into a lot of things about, which would be kind of bad. But God will satisfy our every need in all different ways. But He wants us to be weak with Him. He wants us to go to Him in our places of vulnerability. And because He is the only one that can strengthen us in our weakness. We can all provide each other with a lot of help and a lot of different words, encouragement, even actions. But God ultimately gives us the strength to live this life how we should and to love properly. Because ultimately, we're supposed to become like Him. He gives us the strength to try to become like Him. That's a beautiful way to put it right there. God is our soul's counterpart. We need Him in everything. I find it very interesting how we've connected this so much in the last episode we recorded. But every relationship that you're in is wired for you to get that other person into heaven. Your goal for any relationship that you're ever in needs to be helping their soul get to heaven. No matter what you do. That's about marriage. You're walking with your spouse, your wife, to heaven. You're walking with them to heaven. You're taking that journey together. Rather than as an entity, you're taking it also still as a single entity because y'all are married so your union will be together. But you're taking that journey with them to get to heaven and it boils down to that in the end. And then back to the insecurity topic as well. Just like you said, I think over 90% of the world struggles with insecurity. I think it is one of the most common issues out there. I think there's a lot of people out there that are insecure. I think everyone does. Yeah, I don't know. I guess it could be everybody. There are some people that may seem confident but they're not confident at all. Well, I don't think it's that they're not confident. I think that the person can still be confident and still struggle with it. Yeah. I agree. It's very, uh... Insecurity is an interesting issue. I still do think there's some parts of it that guys handle differently. I think the things I see with a lot of girls... And I don't think this is as apparent as it is with guys. Girls like to do these things where they post pictures of themselves on social media and then their friends... Again, none of this is for women. It's not. But their friends would comment on them and say, oh, you look gorgeous, you look pretty when half of it's empty. Half of it's empty. Like girls, I'd say, receive compliments a lot but half of them are empty compliments. Guys, we will... Say we post a picture or something or something like that. I feel like we're more... We'll be like, yo, this isn't right. Or stuff like that because we're just wired that way. Now, I will also say we don't compliment... I don't think guys compliment each other near as much as they should. I think we hate on each other a lot more. And I feel like we're different in that way. I will say, I think it's funny that you bring it up because you had said earlier that you said that you think lack of trust is, I guess, you would say, probably at an all-time high right now. Yeah. And do we think it has anything to do with the fact that, like you said, some of these are empty? Empty comments that you said. I think that's one reason girls might... And I don't know that it's necessarily at an all-time high. I think it's just it's more publicized. Yeah. Like, I think that trust issues have always been something that's been there. Yeah. I think, I mean, we're all human. We're all perfect. So I think that it's always been there. I just think with social media it's more public. I think... It's probably better. One of the, I think the main thing you could say about it is maybe trust is a high, maybe it's not a high. But one thing that seems down is love. Love seems down. We have higher... We do, yeah. We have higher divorce rates possibly than ever. We have a lot of failures in divorce. We have friendships that go away. People get mad at each other. We have all this hate in the world. Hate is the opposite of love. We need more love in the world than we need hate. Hate creates nothing but more hate. Love is contagious as well. If we spread love, then love will be spread even more from the people that we spread to as well. I'm gonna go to this quote from the Bible. 1 John, chapter 12, verse 12. No one has ever seen God, but if we love another, God lives in us and His love is made complete in us. God is love. God is the fullness of love. But guess what God is? He is an exchange of love as well. There are three persons in the Trinity. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. They're all an exchange of love. That's why God is perfect. God is the most perfect example of love as well. And when we see people loving, if they're a Christian or not, that is still God working through them. Love is... God is love. God is love. The expression of love is God working through them. And if we spread love, which is the greatest emotion, the greatest feeling, the greatest motivation, the greatest anything, it is love. If we spread love, we will spread God to everybody. We need to kill the hate in the world and increase the love in the world. Simple as that. All right, great. All righty. So we have to jump into our next segment, which is Shepherd of the Week. And this time we decided to let my girlfriend take the Shepherd of the Week because she was featured. So we were like, let's make you make this decision. This was a long time coming. She was thinking for a long time to make this choice. So Caroline, who did you ultimately decide as your Shepherd of the Week? It took some deep consideration and lots of contemplating as to who this perfect person would be. Or not perfect, but memorable person. And so this week we had to pick out senior quotes. And so I automatically thought of Mother Teresa. What a more perfect example of love. I mean, she devoted her whole life to serving people. And my quote actually is, or my senior quote from her is, it's the do anything or do it anyway quote. But I took the last excerpt and it says, the good you do today will often be forgotten. Do good anyway. Oh, crap. What is it? Give your best and it'll never be enough. Give your best anyway. And it says, in the end, it was between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway. So I think it's just a perfect example of showing love once again despite how you feel, despite how you'll be looked, and despite everything. I think Mother Teresa is the perfect example for that. Absolutely. Yeah, I totally agree with that. So Mother Teresa's name, I can't pronounce it, her original name, but it means flower bud in Albanian. It's very interesting because St. Therese of the Little Flower is one of my favorite things, actually, of all time because I think a lot of people need to create life little by little and focus on the little things. And if you want to change the world, do it in your own little way because everything makes a difference. And I really admire St. Therese for that because she lived by that. And I think Mother Teresa really took St. Therese of the Little Flower and ran with it. And that's how she wanted to portray herself was that somebody could change this world in whatever way she could. Like the smallest way, she'd make a difference. And I really appreciated that about her. I think the do it anyway part is very interesting, especially at this time. I feel like recognition for doing things for people is very hard to find. You don't see a lot of thank yous as much as you might not see people just being appreciative of love. But we must do it anyways. And if we spread appreciation through love, saying thank you to other people, different things like that, we can increase that in other people as well so that maybe we can change the message from do it anyways to, well, obviously you still want to do it anyways. But you can still see people receiving love and being given love back. It's all an exchange of love. But Mother Teresa, what a great example of a loving person spreading love to absolutely anybody that she was around, not just people that she might have loved even more deeply than others. She loved everyone. You could say that Mother Teresa loved everyone equally that she was around by the way that she gave and the way that she just served so beautifully and so lovingly. I think you could rephrase our quote of the day and say true love is the soul's recognition of goodness in another. I think you could say that as well. Dang it. And I think Mother Teresa was a really good representation of that and so are so many other people in the world. And I can admire, that's one of the best aspects about some celebrities or people out there that I admire, when they can look at somebody and show nothing but goodness to them and not have any sort of hate. They may be the most outlandish, crazy person you've ever met and they will treat them with as much respect as they would treat their own daughters or their parents. And I really find that to be beautiful because sometimes, like I know I struggle with that, like sometimes I'll be talking to somebody and they'll really frustrate me and I'll get angry rather than showing them love in everything that I do. Because every person deserves that. Every person deserves a showing of love because you never know what they're going through. You never know what suffering they've had to endure throughout their life. You don't know that because you're not them. And so I really value that sort of aspect of giving somebody else this love no matter what the circumstances. Because in a way, you're changing the world through your own little way. Just like pictures so far. Absolutely. Mother Teresa, beautiful example, beautiful role model. We should all strive to be more like Mother Teresa as well. We're going to move into our final segment, the questionnaire segment. We have a featured guest here. Ms. Sidley, do you perhaps have a question for the Partners in Crime co-visit in the Zario Hangout? If not, we will have the Zario interview us if you'd like to ask us anything from them. Let's see. Do you have anything for us? I have a great question. Okay. If y'all would like it. You ask us first and then I'll think about what I want to ask y'all. You know, we're talking about examples of love, expressions of love all around here. Y'all, how does the other, what is the greatest example of love that you have received from the other person in y'all relationship? I'd love to hear that. Interesting. Caroline is definitely gift giving. I don't think I have competition with that. In letters and everything. There's not a time where I haven't received a letter from her. It's been like two weeks and it's weird. It's just a weird time. But she loves to write letters all the time. So I get letters and gifts. We do this thing every month where we give a record to each other to celebrate another month of our relationship because every month is a milestone in our relationship. So, I get letters and gifts and every month is a milestone and we're getting closer and closer to heaven as we move forward and we'd love to get that. And so, I think it's important to recognize that every month. And so we do it by, originally, our goal was to get to either mass or adoration every time we had a month, I guess, what is it, a monthiversary? What do you call a month? I don't know. Normally cold reminds me because I forget. She forgets a lot but we give each other records and we try to do those things but hers is definitely gift giving. I'd say that's your biggest expression of love, you can think. Um, let's see, I would say cold. He's very patient with me. Lord knows I can be a lot to handle and so he's very patient with me when sometimes it's not the easiest thing to be and I think that's just a demonstration of cold's character. I think it says a lot about him also. Um, so I would say probably patient and just kindness. Cold is a very kind person so I like that. Okay, and then together. What have y'all done together that has been the greatest example of love, expression of love together to other people? To other people? So it's not like people are family members, it could be you know, just four people or maybe three people or four people but you don't know anything like that. Together, what have you done together to express love to others? There's one thing we did, I can't remember what it was but I remember that's the word, it's not all of it. We did something memorable. Give me a second. Don't talk, don't talk. One second. Do you have any questions, Carol? I know, I know there's something because I remember doing it and feeling really like good about it. So, at our school, we have two organizations for girls and guys to be able to serve the church. So last year, Cole was head of Green Supreme, or the Knights, so he was the Green Supreme Knights. So I am head of the girls that do it and we're called the Doves of the Altar. So I think Cole and I show a lot of love through that because we're both leaders and to be a leader, you have to learn to love people because you have to teach people and the only way you can do that is if you really love someone. So I think that, you know, I would say that's a pretty big one for us. I think we're also really good friends with other people. Like, together, we can kind of, like, one of my favorite qualities about us is that we can go and hang out with a group of people and not have, even the finest, no one will feel like a third wheel. No one will feel like a third wheel. But we're both just really good friends too and I think that's a quality that is really admirable about the both of us. There's a story that I remember. I don't know if you remember doing this. You helped me set up the lights for Christmas one year. Do you remember at the Grotto? No, she's not. It's okay. It was a long time ago. It was before we were dating. Like, a couple years before. But we had to set up the Christmas lights. And as much as I'd love to say it was out of my own want for self-service. I needed service hours for my class and that was my last resort. But what was awesome about it is doing it and eventually, like, after an hour of doing it, I started to feel like, oh, this is really cool. Like, I'm actually kind of, like, a lot of people are going to come see this. Like, I'm not being forced to do this. I want to act like I want to do this. And so, a week later, we rolled back around with my family and we walked in and we decided to go look at the Christmas lights at the Grotto and just seeing all this set up was so beautiful. And to watch the smile on everybody's face was just outstanding. Awesome. Awesome. Do you have questions for me? Do you remember that? I would just like to say, if you, wait, you said that y'all put up the lights several years ago. Or we put up the lights several years ago. I thought the first time y'all went to the Grotto for the Christmas lights was like two years ago. Yeah, that's when we did it. Um, I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't ever need service hours. Y'all want to know how many career service hours I have at St. Leonard's? I have like 250 just from this year. So I don't think I needed any service hours. I probably did it out of the kindness of my heart because I'm so grateful for all the people who have been there for me. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. I don't think I ever needed service hours. 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