Episode 3

The hosts of the Lost Sheet Podcast discuss their experiences and highlights from the week. They talk about attending a basketball game, going to Mass, and the importance of staying connected with friends and community. They also discuss their favorite artist, Josiah Queen, and his song "The Garden in Manhattan." They reflect on the quote from the song, emphasizing the importance of being an example to others and expressing one's faith in unique ways. They relate it to their own personal styles and how they can use their interests (sports and music) to reach others. They mention St. Paul the Evangelist as an example of someone who had a transformative conversion and how everyone's uniqueness is a reflection of God's creation. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back, I'm Nazario Pangallo, and I'm Cole Vincent, and welcome to the Lost Sheet Podcast. You know, we're back for episode three, the third episode, I can't believe we've even got this far. You know, starting a podcast is not the easiest thing in the world, and being consistent with it is a whole other thing. I'm just happy that we're continuing to do it, and, you know, we've been pretty routine on a schedule when we want to do it, and being pretty set about that, but, Cole, you want to just tell us a little bit about your week, something that you want to highlight from your week to get us going. So this week really has been more of a fun week for both of us, honestly. We went to the Alabama vs. Auburn basketball game, and it was one of the best basketball games I think I've ever been to. The experience was crazy, it was phenomenal. One of my highlights from my week was Mass on Tuesday. I really enjoyed it, because it's been a long time since I've kind of been to daily Mass, and I really, really enjoyed getting that experience throughout my week, because I do Mass every Sunday, but I also would love to go to daily Mass more often, and that was just such a heartwarming experience for me, so I really enjoyed that. What about you? How was your week? It was pretty good. I mean, you kind of touched on it a little bit. You know, it's been a lot more of a fun, lighthearted week for us, didn't normally have a super deep thing to talk about, but I think it was Monday night we were able to be at Bible study, and then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday was kind of like all basketball, and then Friday we played play play with some friends as well. So what I just wanted to touch on was, you know, make sure that you're staying in community with people, and not just isolating yourself and being by yourself. We need that interaction, that human interaction with each other, and just find different things to do, and that's kind of like one of the best parts about college is you're around your friends. You're not really around anybody else other than your friends, pretty much, and so it's a good thing to be able to stay in contact with them, do fun things, and not just be sitting in your dorm room, you know, being by yourself in your room. Yeah, the reason he's bringing this up, and the reason it's kind of been really important to us this semester, particularly, is because last semester we were kind of just going on a routine, just getting involved, but not as involved as we are so far this semester. This semester we really, really wanted to reach out to people and get to know people better and kind of grow in that sort of community, and we can tell you it's made a huge difference on this semester. I personally am enjoying this a lot more than last semester. We watched a lot of TV last semester. I'll say that. Yeah, so it's been really good to get out and do different things and, you know, explore Tuscaloosa and then all the different friends that we have now, and continuing to grow in friendship, which is, you know, a huge thing we're supposed to do as human beings. Yeah, especially, like, friendships that have quality people that are really leading you towards holiness, and that has been so great. I really appreciate it. Yeah. All right, so we're going to jump in to this episode, and we're going to get straight to our quote. You know, talk a little about the journey getting to this quote, is we were thinking about doing this week, and I'm sure he's going to get into his sweatshirt, so I won't ruin that for him, but we're going to do Josiah Queen is one of his favorite artists and someone that he's introduced to me as well, and we were trying to figure out what quote we wanted to do. He even had an idea of doing, you know, a whole song of Josiah Queen, which is a great idea, and it could be a great podcast idea eventually, but, you know, we wanted to stick with, you know, just one quote to not, you know, change up our theme already, so we decided to go with, this is the quote, if I'm the closest thing to a Bible that they read, let the words they read be what you wrote. Cole, could you tell us, you know, what song that's from a little bit maybe about that song and your voice of Josiah Queen? So, this song is called The Garden in Manhattan. It's very well thought out, the lyrics are beautiful. It talks all about his experience with the world and how if he's going to kind of be an example to other people, he really wants to be able to grow in his faith and express that through his actions, words, examples, and everything that he does in his day-to-day life. And I really, honestly, like, if I could put him as the shepherd of the week sometime, I definitely would. He's been such an inspiration to me as a person, watching him grow. Every single one of his songs highlights a story from the Bible, and I didn't realize that until I went back today and kind of broke down each song because I was trying to find a quote specifically, and this song I found was the most quotable. It's pretty easy to find something, but if you go back and listen to all of his other music and his songs, it's very, very well thought out. The Prodigal is another one of his songs, and it talks all about the journey of the prodigal son and his attraction towards the fake things of life and the money, and then he grows back and slowly, what's he going to run back to? His father in him. And it's so beautiful how all of it connects very, very well. He has one written about the promised land and Moses that he just released, which I love it. All of his music is great. It's kind of like a folk Christian vibe, which I really enjoy. Yeah, that's true. Going into this quote, the one thing that I get from it the most is being that example to other people, and I think this can be from your words, to your actions, to how you look, and I'm going to relate this to us right now. And so God created us all with special ways and special gifts and talents to reach certain people and to be able to spread the gospel in our own versions, in our own ways, and I'm going to relate this to the clothes that we're wearing right now because this is an idea that popped in my head. So right now you see he's in jeans and a sweatshirt, a little bit more of a nicer vibe. And I would say that overall, Cole's style is more of a nicer vibe, more of a business casual type of vibe, more than myself, it's almost always shorts and like an athletic type of vibe. And so this kind of relates to how God wants each of us to be ourselves, but still follow God as the main message, but in our own ways, as in who we are as people and in our personalities. We all are called to be, follow God, have the same commandments and laws and what we're supposed to do, but we all can add our own personal perspective to it as well. And for me, you know, it's always sports is a big thing for me, it's my passion and everything like that. So I can relate to sports people in that way and be able to, you know, show them the Bible and if that's what they're able to, if that's the only time they see someone that's read the Bible, if that's their only experience with God is through an interaction with me through the sports world, well then I've got to be prepared for that and, you know, that's my world. And I would say for you, your world is obviously music, it's definitely like, I would say probably your top thing is music and your sweatshirt is literally a song right now. And so I feel like that could be your way of your experience, your tunnel really for people, for you to reach people. And that's just the initial thought that I had with this quote and kind of relating it to us and, you know, our clothes have been in it. So clothes are really more of like an expression of your personality. I've found with a lot of people, a lot of people use their personality by wearing the clothes that they kind of would reflect that personality. So what I've found is that uniqueness is so beautiful. I love uniqueness as a whole and God created us each in his unique and own perfect way. And so everyone tells me all the time about snowflakes, right? When you look at a snowflake, you don't really realize that it's different because it just looks like a white blob. However, when you get closer to it, the structure breaks down and you get this really unique, beautiful ice crystal and everything's different and no snowflake is the exact same, just like each of us. And I think clothes are a perfect example of that. Not all of us have the same style. In fact, everybody's style is completely different. They're unique to themselves. And I think that is such a perfect reflection of who you are. Just like a snowflake is different once you take a closer look. If you take a closer look at the clothes somebody's wearing, and sometimes people can't afford nice clothes, but the clothes that they're wearing still represent who they are. And I think clothes are a perfect way of looking at that. And even their personality as a whole is just different and it's nice to see that in people who really are themselves around other people. And I'm going to go with one guy whose style and his story was different back then. And at that time, that's St. Paul the Evangelist. And I was thinking, I think it was Thursday, was his feast day this week, and it was talking about Paul's story of conversion that this idea really popped into my head. And so, if you look at Paul, he was a persecutor, a killer of Christians. And then he had this great moment of conversion when God speaks to him and tells him, why are you crucifying me? And so, if we think about it, and sometimes this is a good question to ask and a good thought to ponder, is the apostles and all those people, what they did, they did it because they truly believed in Christ and they believed everything that he told them and that he did. But I think Paul relates to it in a whole other way because he was the one literally persecuting and literally killing Christians. And so he knows that if he makes this conversion, if he changes into an apostle like he's seen other apostles, he knows what punishment is coming. How much of a belief, how much of a conviction he must have had in God, in his faith to make that change, to make that conversion. And I think we can relate this to style a little bit, that we can change our style at times. If we need to change our style, that is what must be done. And then Paul, obviously, one of the greatest evangelists and writers that we have in the whole world, and one of the greatest things he does is he lets Christ speak to him. He's really in touch with who he is as a person and who he is in Christ and allowing the Holy Spirit to speak through him. So I'm going to go from 1 Corinthians chapter 2, 1-5. And when I came to you, brothers, I did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom, for I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness and in fear and much trembling, and my speech and my message were not in causal words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. I think this relates to style in a whole way because a lot of us are simple. There are certain people who have a great knowledge of certain things and a lesser knowledge of other things. And there are certain ways to speak to people when you are evangelizing and when you are being the closest thing to a Bible that they read. Some people need just a show of the Spirit living in you. Some people need a bunch of scriptural references, a bunch of theological things. And you have to be able to read your audience and know the people that you are trying to evangelize to. And that is why God gives us our personalities and our passions and our desires. Because if you are an athlete like myself, I know what other athletes have gone through. I know how I can relate athletes and going through sports to the faith life, like we talked about a lot in our last episode. And then you with music, you can relate music to the people. And that is a beautiful way that God has given us all of our passions and all of our desires to relate it to evangelizing and being the closest thing to a Bible that certain people will read in our lives. And I think it is really shocking in that story as well to kind of see like the person God can take from who Paul was before he really experienced God to who Paul was afterwards. Like you are never at a point in your life where God can't take you and change you completely. And I think it is really, really important to recognize that no matter where you are in your life. And so I am going to change it back up and I am going to go back to the quote again. If I am the closest thing to a Bible that they read, let the words they read be what you wrote. A lot of times, when I first heard this, I kind of was like, you know, I kind of felt prideful almost. Like kind of like, oh I am boasting that I am good. But then I dove into it a little more and I found that it was really inspiring actually kind of just to sit there. And he is not boasting that he is better or anything else. He is just saying, if I am going to be this person's friend, if I am going to have a relationship with them, if I am going to be involved in their life, I need to be the best example of Jesus on earth that I can be. I need to be the best example of a good Christian man or woman that they will interact with because that is my goal, right? I am going to quote one of our friends and she had a speech that we went to over last semester and we have already used her quote before I believe in our podcast. But treat people like Jesus died for them. Treat people like Jesus died for them. And I think that is what this quote is talking about, right? Everybody is unique. Paul definitely was unique. I mean he went from killing Christians to being one of the most well-known people out there. Like St. Paul is huge. If you treat people like Jesus died for them, that means you are always giving them a chance. You are always giving them the opportunity to change. And I think it is really, really important to recognize that because everybody deserves that chance. Nobody is left out. And that is one of the most beautiful things about Christianity. Like God can't just be like, yeah, no, you are gone. That is just not how it works. And I think that is so beautiful. I think one thing that disappoints evangelists and then something that disappoints people that are receiving the message and for the evangelists is you are supposed to just plant seeds. You are just supposed to plant ideas in people's heads. And sometimes it is hard for us when we are trying to give a message to somebody and it does not seem like they receive it or it does not seem like they change. But as you said, God never gives up on them. So we must never give up on them. And we must always be continuing to either plant seeds or keep treating them with the same level of kindness and give them that chance and that time to change. And then another thing is that people that receive the message, you hear so many stories of people having bad experiences with Christians or the church or whatever it may be that actually pushes them away from the faith. And so, yes, we are not perfect. So we cannot be like, okay, our actions need to be perfect in that moment when we are speaking because we do not know how it is going to go. We do not know what our mood is going to be like. But it is our response to that. If we mess up, how do we react to it? Which matters a lot for someone who is outside of the church. If they see someone who is prideful, does something wrong, does not seem to care about it and just says, oh, I am a Christian, I am fine. Instead, they need to see someone say, oh, I messed up. I am sorry about that. You know, I said something wrong or I reacted in the wrong way. And see that making mistakes is okay. We are going to make mistakes. So that someone from the outside can see that it is like, oh, I do not have to be perfect. Like, I do not have to. Like, obviously, you should be striving to follow God's commands. But if you do not, like if you fail, which you are inevitably going to do, like you are going to be picked back up by the church and by the other Christians around you. So I think on both sides, it needs to be like better. You have to think about it more and be like, hey, give them a chance to grow and also be like, I need to help them grow in different ways. I think some of those underrated virtues out there are humility and patience. Just like you said, it is perfectly fine to admit that you are wrong about something. I actually think it is attractive in a person to admit that they can be wrong about something. Because if you are talking to somebody who always thinks they are right, how are you ever going to have a conversation with them? You cannot. It is also when you are talking to somebody. Like, sometimes I am saying something and I am like, please just tell me that I am wrong. I do not want you to be like, tell me I am wrong so we can go back and forth with this. Do not just be like, oh, yeah, you are right. Because it is okay to have a debate with people. Like, you can talk to somebody without getting angry. It is important. And that is where patience comes in as well. You need to have patience with the other person. You can be right about something and they can argue about something that they are wrong about, but you need to have patience with them. That way you can display your message better. And one of my teachers in my honors class last semester really highlighted something kind of like this. The people that get the most heated up during arguments tend to have the weaker side of the argument. It is just, it is a scientific fact. Because you are so heated up about it, maybe you do not know as much as you thought you did about the argument. And it is not, if you want to actually show them that you are right, it is not the best way to approach it. Approach it with kindness and generosity and patience and humility. What are you going to do? You are going to get a perfectly healthy argument with a good, thoughtful outcome and that is what you want. You want to be able to have those conversations with people. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So I think we are done with our first segment of discussing the quote. We will get a little bit more into it later. But let's get into our Shepard of the Week. Our Shepard of the Week for episode three is our very own Bible study leader, Evan Erber. And I think he deserves an applause as well. Absolutely. Would you like to introduce our beloved Bible study leader? So, both Nazariah and I attend Bible study. It used to be every Tuesday. Now it is every Monday. And Evan is our leader in Bible study and he is just a fantastic human being. There is something different about interacting with somebody who really loves Jesus. And you can tell. And interacting with Evan is that exact way. Like when I taught Evan, I get so much wisdom back that I really, really feel helps me grow as an individual. And I respect him for that. And he is not just our Bible study leader. He is like a friend to both of us. He is somebody that we can talk to. And if we had any problems, I bet you if we went over there right now and talked to him, he would drop what he was doing and sit there and talk to us. And he has brought other people into our lives too with his friends as well. They are just really good role models to us. And it is an inspiration. Because they are both older than us. They are all older than us. And it is just really awesome to see people still have their faith as they are going along and be like, oh, we can do that too. Like that is what we should aspire to be. Absolutely. I am going to go quote, start it. And it is Matthew 9, 36-38. When Jesus saw the crowds, he had compassion for them because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Then he said to his disciples, the harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore, pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest. And I would say that Evan absolutely is a laborer for the harvest. We are part of the harvest. And he is our shepherd and our laborer right now and being that leader for us at this moment. And I think one of the favorite things about Evan that he does is in our Bible study, he does not just control the Bible study. He allows us to read the verses. And he does not just speak to us about his wisdom. But he allows it to be a whole conversation. Kind of what we were talking about, like we are free to make mistakes and say things that may be wrong so that we can help each other all. Because we all have different types of knowledge. We all have different types of education growing up of the Catholic Church. So we are all able to help each other in that way. And he does a great job of fostering all of that and being like, making it seem like, okay, even if you say something wrong, like we are going to help you with it. No, we are not going to just criticize you for being wrong because you do not know something about scriptures or different things like that. And I do not know how he is going to feel about this story, but one of my favorite memories is in the fall. He was just exuberant coming into this Bible study. He was just so happy. And we were like, what in the world is going on? We were like a full Bible study and I am just sitting there wondering, why is he so happy right now? And then at the end of the Bible study, he finally tells us that it had to do with a girl. I am not going to get those details out. But it had to do with a girl. He was just so excited. It is probably one of my favorite moments about our Bible study leader, Evan, was just seeing him and how happy he was with that moment. And he is already applauded and esteemed the entire way back. We were trying to figure out who it was immediately. We had our theories. But Evan is a phenomenal, phenomenal human being. And I am going to share a Bible quote as well. Go everywhere in the world and tell the good news to everyone. That is Mark chapter 16, verse 15. That is kind of who I think he represents as a person. Wherever he goes, he seems to always represent somebody who is following and living the Christian life and wants other people to do the same. Just like you said about how we are able to go in the Bible study and have good talks, good arguments, decent debates, it is very, very, very important when you are talking about Christianity. Because you want to be around people who are going to help you grow in that. And you want to be around people who are, sometimes, Evan has probably got a lot more catechesis than both of us have. And you can see that throughout the Bible study. And it is really nice to be able to ask somebody and be like, yeah, I do not actually know this about the faith. Would you mind telling me? And he is like, yeah. He does not shame us for it at all. He is just like, yeah, let us go. Let us go right into it. And the rest of us, some people, some of us may know that answer as well. So we input and have our conversation and we will have our own input in that. And it is very, very neat to see the workings of our Bible study. So my favorite segment of our Bible study is called, Hi, Hello, God. And what we like to do is we share our high of the week, like what was our favorite thing or something that really impacts us throughout the week. And we share our low. Most of the time, for me, it is grace. So it does not change at all. Engineering. Yeah, engineering life. And then our God moment. What has God done to us throughout the week that has helped us grow and has helped us recognize Him in our day-to-day life? And for me, it is really nice to just say that out loud because I will have it in my head, but I will kind of forget about it and I do not put enough emphasis on it until we actually get into Bible study. And it is great. I actually like that it is on Monday now because it is our perfect way to start our week off. I agree. So it is nice going into class and having that Monday right there, boom, Bible study. And then it is like a refresh. There is my God refresh for the week. And then we have adoration on Wednesday. There is another God refresh. And then we have sometimes Friday night fellowship, which we have not attended yet this week. We will make it. And then we will have Sunday mass. And it is like we are always getting this refresh, this refresh, this refresh. And it is nice to get that. Yeah. I am going to quickly relate Evan to our quote. And the quote, once again, I will say, if I am supposed to send you a Bible, let them read. Let the words they read be what you wrote. And multiple stories I have been told by Evan of where he is playing intramural sports or different sports with people. And he would talk about these friends that he has made. And he will always mention that these friends, maybe some of them are not Christians. But he always has the intent of trying to work the conversation, work his friendship towards eventually telling them about Jesus while also always leading them towards it. And I think that is another beautiful thing about Evan is how he does that with so many different types of people and different types of friends. And he is using his love for sports in that way. As we talked about his style and our style as human beings to do that. Yeah. So something I did over last year, kind of going into this year, is I had a conversation over Christmas break with my aunt. And we talked about not being afraid to compliment somebody. And I think Evan has that quality as well. Like he will give you a compliment if you need to hear that compliment. And something I kind of made as a New Year's resolution was the second a compliment comes to my head, the second I notice something good about a person, I want to go out and tell them. Like I want to be able to tell them that because that could change their week entirely. And just hearing that, especially from a guy's standpoint, because I feel like guys really take compliments to heart. Not that girls don't, but since I'm a guy myself, most of the time I think a guy would need to hear my compliments. For a girl, I think a girl would need to hear their compliments. Not that it can't go both ways, but most of the time that's kind of how it would work. Because a guy understands a guy's head and a woman understands a woman's head. That's just how it works. And so I think Evan really displays that, especially to us throughout the week in kind of boosting us up. And giving us the standing point and the steps to get closer to heaven and keep going. And so I really admire that quality about him. And I remember sometimes we'll be in Bible study and either myself or him will go on this little tangent or rant. And then Evan will look at either him or the one that's not speaking and he'll be like, sometimes be like, what is he talking about? And it's just funny because it's always that mix up of like, because he knows that we're like best friends and roommates and everything like that. So he knows that we think pretty similarly. So if we look at each other like, we'll tell each other straight up if something's wrong. So if Evan looks at us, you know, we can tell each other straight up. So it's just a fun little thing about him. Yeah, and he's got this signature look. And for those of you that are on the visual, it's something like this. But yeah, if you're on the podcast, just imagine like, the rock maybe? Oh, the smaller. Yeah, the smaller from Jumaane. I like the smaller. But like more like, what is he thinking? Yeah, yeah. It's more that smaller. But yeah, y'all should definitely, if you're looking for the visuals of the podcast, go to YouTube. We like to sometimes bring things up that we can't show over audio, obviously, because it's audio. But if you would like to see more, our setup is nice, I guess. We really try to get what we could for a dorm. But if you'd like to see more, go to the YouTube link and that will be in our Instagram. Same thing with our email. We're going to try to post that on a story and put it on a highlight. So if you want our email, go to our highlights and our story on our Instagram page. So now we're going to go ahead and jump into our final segment of this episode. So... Second. Second to last. Second to last? We're going to do our questions, like the questions from people, and then our final thoughts on the quiz. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's fine. So we'll do our fourth segment of this episode. And for the first time, we actually had a question get sent in. Yeah, so that's a big stepping stone for us. And it was really neat to see it, because I was walking from class and I just saw it pop up on my phone and I was like, hmm, nice, let's go. Like, we have something to talk about this episode. So I asked him if it was okay to use his name and he said, yeah, go for it, man. He said, I'd love to be featured. So his name is Spencer Webster. Desario actually noticed him from high school with him. Yeah, I went to high school with him. And football with him as well. So it was really neat. And he seemed to have, like, this is a really good question. So a lot of people struggle with listening to Christian music, and he wanted our opinion on it. Like, because sometimes he said he couldn't really get into it as much. And he wanted me, Desario kind of like, I answered him on Instagram as well, so we're talking about twice. And I asked if it was okay and he said, yeah. But he was like, what do y'all think about Christian music? Like, how are y'all connecting Christian music to your life? What is your opinion on it? And I wanted to break it down. And I said, for me, a lot of times it's harder to get into the generic Christian music, like some of the just the regular Christian songs that are out there. And sometimes I can, like, if it's a really good night and I'm, like, feeling Jesus, I'll turn it on full blast in my car and, you know, I'm singing Reckless Love at, like, full volume and awful noise. But there's just sometimes where it's just not as, it's different than regular music. It's not the same. And it's very, it's noticeable. But the way I've found to kind of enjoy Christian music more is by finding smaller artists. And there's a band I really love called Need to Breathe. They're not a Christian band, but they produce Christian music. And I really love the message they get across. And it's like a classic soft rock vibe. And it sounds just like music you'll hear on the radio, but in a Christian focus. And I really like that. Josiah Queen is a phenomenal example of it. That's why I actually chose him for this segment was this exact question at the end. He is a folk artist that recently just got popular. He had, like, two or three songs before he finally blew up. The first one being Eye of Barabbas. But he takes this Christian message and displays it in more of, like, the Noah Kahn vibe, if y'all know who that is. The more popular sound. And kind of makes it easier for people to listen to and connect with it more. And making his audience everybody. And expanding it. And so I really like listening to artists like that. And that's how I have found that I've been able to connect with Christian music as a whole. Just before I go into mine. So it took you three episodes to get to Need to Breathe? Or did you talk about them before? That was the third time. Wow. Which is wild. Yeah. I mean, I think probably, like, one of our first conversations. Probably talking about Need to Breathe. I mean, his whole family is just, like, so into them. So they're Swifties, right? And I think I'm kind of, like, what would the word be? Need to Breathe-y? Yeah. I guess. But always listen to them play their music. I mean, he's a big Need to Breathe fan. I just wanted to see if this was... I couldn't believe it took him three episodes to actually talk about them. Yeah, nobody knows me and doesn't know that I like Need to Breathe. That is shocking. Those three episodes. Anyway. He's a letdown. He's a big letdown as a fan. So I think for me, I can relate it to my own experience talking with my girlfriend. Because growing up, we always listened to Christian music. It was the number one thing that we listened to. So for me, it's never really been, like, an issue. Like, it's always something that I've been into and I've been able to listen to it. But talking to her, you know, she's listened to other types of music more, which is okay. Like, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just being able to relate to the experience as well. So I think there's just, like, a good mix of it. Like, don't force yourself to only listen to Christian music because if you're not used to it, it's gonna not be your thing for a while. Try to just mix it in in little types of ways, but also try to think about the message that each type of music is trying to give to you. Every type of music can give you different types of messages. All can be good and all can be bad as well. And so when you're listening to the Christian music, for me, it's like, I can remember verses and lyrics from Christian music way more than I can really remember, you know, Bible verses. And in our lives, you know, when we're fighting temptation or just things in our lives where we need to remember what's going on and remember God as the center, people say, well, you need to remember Bible verses. But sometimes for me, it's easier to just remember the lyrics. And if it's Christian lyrics, you know that what at the heart of their message is the Christian message. So I think that's a huge part of it for me is keeping like that mindset. If you're able to keep a Christian lyrical mindset in your head, it's more of that positive Christian message. But of course, mix in, you know, other types of music if it's, you know, appropriate and good for you and spreading a good message to you, as you talked about with, you know, all these types of music that you listen to. Need to Breathe has a lot of good messages in their music. There's plenty of people that have good messages. But, you know, have that have those thoughts when you're listening to music like, is this musical message truly like good for me? Or is it talking about, you know, bad things I shouldn't be listening to? Which I think there's a lot of different ways that music could be bad for you, whether it's like, you know, I mean, you know, there's a lot of rap music that's about a lot of guns, drugs, all those different types of things. Or it simply could just be a negative message about yourself that's being spoken through the music. So Christian music just does a great job of relating to life in the Christian way, I think, and relating to how you struggle sometimes and you get through it, and just all those different lyrical messages that you kind of can get through it. I believe it's St. Augustine, I may be wrong, but his quote is, if it's not him, it's singing in prayer twice. When you're expressing yourself like that, you're not only saying those words, but you're expressing those words by using the voice that God gave you to in a more melodic way, and you're really giving it to yourself, and it's an expression of that. And sometimes when we're praying, we don't have that full expression like we do when we sing. And a lot of people connect with music on a deeper level. And so I believe that quote's really, really valuable in our lives to kind of remember that, especially with the songs that we're singing, because if we're singing songs that are like not good for us at all, maybe it's not a good idea to be singing it. For me, I'm a huge, I'm a big example of not limiting myself to one genre. I bounce all over the place. I was in the car with Desario, I have a playlist called All Lives, and it ranges from country to rap to rock to pop to Christian music, it's all over the place. And he was like, dang, you just switch up like that, it's crazy. You can be listening to John Legend singing All of Me and go straight to Death Leopard or something like that, which is wild. But I really like, something that I like to keep during my, for my music is keeping everything clean. I like to kind of just have any song I have, if it's an explicit song, I try to find a clean version, if I can't find a clean version, I try not to put it on there. Because I don't want to have that influence, not even though some of the other words in that song are the bigger worry, I like it to limit my ability to listen to the explicit version, because I think it's a lot better for my soul as a whole. And going back to the Christian mindset, I don't listen normally to a whole lot of Christian music, but I do when I really feel the connection, like you said, it's all about lyrics. That's the appreciation you gotta learn for Christian music. It is completely lyrically based. If you pay attention to lyrics, they're beautiful, and you'll probably remember it, like you said, a lot more than you'll remember any other lyric, because it's easy to connect to, and it's easy to connect it to God. And that's really important, which is why the lyrics are so attractive to us, which is why when we sing it, we're not just being attracted to the lyrics, we're expressing ourselves through those lyrics towards God, which I think is beautiful. Yep, I think you finished that off, that segment was great with that. So I think we're gonna head into our final segment, our final thoughts on this quote from Josiah Queen, would you like me to go first, sir, or would you like to finish it off? You can if you want to. Okay, so let's just try to, we've tried, both of us have been talking about this as well, making sure that we're remembering our quotes ourselves and relating them to our lives. So, I'm gonna read it one more time before I say my final thoughts. If I'm gonna quote this thing to a Bible that they read, let the words they read be what you wrote. And so, I'm really gonna try this week to keep this mindset of, when I'm out in public, to remember that when people see me, I want them to make sure that if that's the only time that they see a Christian, or they see a person who knows God, that they know what that's about, they know what Christianity is about, and have that good outlook towards it. And try to keep that in my thoughts, especially in my interactions with people, and making sure that if this is the only time they get to see someone or meet someone like that, that it has an impact on their life, and that a seed is planted so that God can harvest that seed and hopefully make it grow into a conversion if that person is not a Christian. This quote really dives into living life as a Christian, and it's really inspirational to me as a whole. But if you go ahead and look at the next verse of that song, he goes and kind of mentions it again, but in a different sort of metaphor. He says, When my friends can't find the road, I'll be your roadside welcome sign. So, who's the first one there, standing at the edge of the gauge, waiting for us, getting us into heaven? Who's gonna greet us first? Well, the first person we're gonna see is Jesus. We're gonna see Jesus. He's there. And if you can have that effect on somebody else and be the person welcoming somebody on earth towards Jesus, or guiding them towards Jesus, that really shows that you're living a Christian life because you're living life like Jesus would. Like Jesus would do. What would Jesus do? WWJD. Their merch is online. Anyways, that is really, really important to have that sort of guideline to life, living it as a Christian, because you have such huge impact on other people that you don't realize. People could look up to you as a role model, and you could have absolutely no idea because they'll never tell you. So, it's important to recognize that you could have that effect on somebody, and if you're having that effect on somebody right now, like, all of you guys could be having this effect on somebody and have no idea. If you're having that effect on somebody, live like it. Live like it. Be their roadside welcome sign. Be the closest thing to a Bible that they'll read. And I'm gonna close with that. Be the closest thing to a Bible that a person will read. Live life like a Christian. Live like Jesus would. Thank you. God bless. That's good. That's a good episode, sir. You know one thing that is, like, unfortunate is that we have to wait. You're gonna have to clip.