The Homestead Podcast is hosted by Carol and Jamie of TwoGalsHomesteading.com. They discuss topics related to homesteading, including taking responsibility for what you eat, family health, and living a simpler life. They encourage listeners to unleash their inner homesteader and provide tips for doing more with less. The podcast is sponsored by PicoSupply.com. In the episode, Jamie talks about making cream cheese dips and homemade bread. She also shares her experience canning cranberries and potatoes. Additionally, she attempted to make cottage cheese but encountered some challenges. Despite the mistakes, she was able to use the failed cottage cheese in a lasagna dish. Overall, Jamie shares her experiences and tips related to homesteading and cooking.
Welcome to the Homestead Podcast. You are joining co-hosts Carol and Jamie of TwoGalsHomesteading.com. If you found yourself here, that means you are ready to take responsibility for what you eat, your family's health, and your family's well-being while living a simpler life. You can do this and have fun, saving money along the way. Let them help you unleash the homesteader within. By doing more with less, you will gain what is needed to create confidence, impact, and change in your life and the lives around you.
Let's start homesteading. Let's start now. We'd like to give a special thank you to PicoSupply.com for sponsoring our podcast. Hello, Jamie. Hey, Carol. How's it going? Good. Since we haven't gotten together for a couple of weeks here, what's been happening in your kitchen, Jamie? Trying to think. I've been using your cream cheese. One week, I made two different recipes of cream cheese dips. They were fantastic. Actually, the first one, it was actually a cheese ball recipe that I left the pecans off because I know Rich isn't really fond of them.
I just put it, and I'd read the other one that you had mentioned, and it put it in the oven and melted it, and I thought, let's do it. That one was really good. That was a really good one. Then last week, I made the other one, and it was okay, but I liked the first one better. Yes, the first one had bacon in it. I mean, how can you go wrong? Well, the second one had bacon in it, too, but not as much.
Somebody else, somebody had found it and ate some of the bacon. Ate some of the bacon, and I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, that first one, which was just basically a traditional cheese ball that you left the, the nuts probably wouldn't have gone very well in that gooey, but oh, my gosh, that was gone between the four of us. We cleaned that up, and I think we were licking the pan. There was nothing left. Then I had made bread, homemade bread, and toasted it.
That was fantastic. You put some seasoning on it, too, if I remember right. Didn't you have some Italian seasoning or something on there? I don't think I put butter. Yeah, who knows? See, I need to write this down. Yeah, it was really good. It was a nice way to use up bread. Yeah, stale bread. Stale bread. They'll eat it the first day, day and a half, but once then, it's like it sits there, and I look at it, and it's like, what am I going to do with it? And was that sourdough bread? No.
It was just regular. Yeah, I've been, you know, because sourdough, you've got to think about process. Oh, yes. And so my sourdough starter is sitting in the fridge going, hey, I'm here, I'm here. No, I'm like going, pulled out the bread machine and just let the bread machine, and actually I found an awesome bread machine recipe because I couldn't find my bread machine recipe. Don't know what I did with it. So I used King Arthur's bread machine recipe, and it has turned out, I've probably made it six times now, and it turns out great every time.
And what's the recipe called? Just white bread or? Bread machine recipe. Okay. We'll put a link to that in the show notes. Let's see, you had done all that canning, but that was two weeks ago. Yep, but I have still been working on canning. You're still, now what are you doing now? Well, did I tell you about going to the local little grocery hardware store we have in Kirkland? And I went to buy carrots for lunch and noticed that he still had cranberries.
And I'm like going, hmm, he had them marked at $2.25 where they had been on sale at some point during the Christmas season. And I wonder, hmm, he had eight bags left. And I went and I stuck my head around the corner and I go, Scott, can you give me a deal if I buy all the rest of those? And he's like, oh, yeah. So I got them for $1.75 a bag. And I made more cranberry juice last night.
Oh, okay. And then, but then I had like three cups left over. And I'd have to do one more jar in a hot water, you know, it's like, then I'd have that, you know, so it's like, no, okay, what am I going to do? So I made the cranberry sauce recipe on the back of the package. The cook sauce or the relish? I cooked it. Okay. And I'm like, I've never had cranberry sauce ever, because the stuff that can't, all I've ever seen is the stuff out of a can.
And that is not appetizing. No, it is not. And so I thought, well, this doesn't taste, it's actually kind of good. So now my thinking is that I'm going to take it and put it in ice cube trays. And I'm going to use it to second ferment kombucha. Oh, okay. Otherwise, my other suggestion was going to be take it, take a block of my cream cheese and put it on top and use it, put it on crackers.
That's really, really good. Okay, we can do that. Yeah. I don't know if Bob would, I don't know, I don't know if Rich, is Rich a cranberry guy? No, he is not. Yeah, I don't know. We might just do a little bit for you and I. Yep. Yep. But that's really good. You like animal crackers are really good with that. If you're into animal. You like that cookie? Yeah, the little animal crackers, not the frosted, just the plain.
Yeah. Shortbread. Yeah, they're really good that way. Yeah, well, it's a store and they have a lot of different cheeses and stuff. And there was one there, they were actually, it was a cranberry and I think it had jalapenos in it or something. So, and they were serving that as samples to sell their jelly. It was actually a jelly they were selling or a jam. And I was like, this is really good. Animal crackers. Yeah, but animal crackers with that is really good.
I wonder if I can find a little container of animal crackers. I'll stop and see. But before we come off here, I mean, I don't know. It's really good that way. I'm sure it's good on other crackers too. I'm sure it's good on a rich cracker or your sourdough crackers. If you have a chance to make those, I'm sure it'd be good on that too. But I just know it's really good on the animal crackers. Not that I'm supporting animal crackers from the store, but it's really good.
I haven't bought those. I don't even buy those for my grandkids. We have them because they are a nice treat for goats. And we do eat them here. It's not unusual for me to eat animal crackers. All of a sudden I get a craving. Maybe I need to find a recipe and make my own. Yeah. Or you're going to cut up shapes. Anyway, so I'm glad you found a way to use the cranberry sauce. Or the cranberries up to make sauce, I guess.
Yeah. And then one other thing is I'm back to, I still have potatoes that I need to can. And so I started canning them. It's when you try something new and then to get down the process of doing it. In my life, I've got to do it in short segments because I don't have, in the evening I'll have three hours to spend something. But I don't always have three hours. Okay. So it's like, can I do something in the morning? Can I do a little bit at lunchtime? Because I go home at lunch and make lunch for the gang.
And then can I finish it up in the evening before I go to bed? That's how I flow with everything. But besides that, I'm like, you're missing one thing you told me about. And you got me started over here. Oh, my clabbering. I was looking to make cottage cheese. And our number one fan, Kelsey, said she had a recipe. And so she sent it to me. And I watched the video. She sent me a video link.
And this gal, she's from Pennsylvania, Mennonite maybe background. Anyway, she talked about the first step is to clabber the milk. And basically that is letting the milk sour naturally on your counter. And I'm like, okay. That's easy enough, right, you think? I can do that. It'll take a few days. And I think I jumped the gun. I don't think it was soured enough. And so my cottage cheese didn't really turn out cottage cheesy-like. Because when I put it in the refrigerator, it clumped too big together to be like a cottage cheese.
Okay. And it really wasn't like a cheese curd. But it tasted good. Everybody loved the taste of it. Well, a mistake still turned out okay. Yeah. You know, I think I read that in some, so many, I've been reading a lot of cheese blogs and videos and books. And somebody said even a mistake is still edible. I did make lasagna with that, you know, failed cottage cheese. And it worked out okay. I had to top it up with the egg.
You know, I mix an egg in with my cottage cheese when I make lasagna. And so I used that to break it up. And it still turned out great. And did I take a picture of that? No. So I did that. So I have another gallon on the counter now. Oh, and then the other side effect, because I watched like three different videos. And clabbered milk, if you don't skim off the cream, makes clabbered sour cream.
And so I did that. I scooped off the sour cream. I got like a cup. I used that to make ranch veggie dip. And it turned out great. Even Bob liked it. He goes, it's too dilly. But I'm like, I like the dill. So I'm the one that eats the veggies in my house. So it's like, so it turned out great. But then I went to make, like, I don't know, I was having tacos or something.
I don't have no sour cream. I made veggie dip. Oh, my gosh. Whoops. Okay, so you clabbered your milk on the counter. And then you took the cream off before you made your cottage cheese. Yep. So you used like a light cottage cheese or a little fat then? Well, no, I had two half gallons. And so I skimmed one half gallon and left the other. Oh, okay. So I got some fat. You need the fat. I think you need the fat for the cottage cheese.
That's what I would think. Okay. All right. So you just took a little sample. Yeah. I took some of the clabbered milk and put, like, a couple tablespoons in the other gallon. So that I put a cultured in to speed up the clabbering of the current gallon that I have on the counter. Because we're going to try, you know, cottage cheese too and see what happens. You're going to try it again. Now, you said it didn't quite clabber like you were expecting it to.
I think once I got the cream off, it wasn't as yogurt-y as the video was. And I'm thinking, okay, I needed to let it go longer. You know? And is your kitchen cool like mine is? My kitchen is cool. And I do have heat mats in my kitchen that I do my kombucha on. But I didn't want to put the milk directly on the heat mat. So what I took, I have stone 4x4, no, 8x8 pans.
So I turned it upside down and I have that sitting on top of the stone pan. Okay. So it's a little, it's not directly on the heat mat, but it's warmer. It's warmer. Because, yeah, my kitchen, your butter will not spread in my kitchen. And you made something else in your kitchen. Oh, farmer's cheese. Farmer's cheese. You made farmer's cheese. And you must have made that earlier. A week ago. I don't know. I know you didn't bring any over.
I think you guys ate it all. Oh, yeah. We ate it all. Oh, yeah. Because it turned out being more like a paneer. So I took milk and I heated it up to 180 degrees. Put vinegar in it. Curled it. You leave it set 10 minutes. Then you strain it. It's really a simple cheese to make. And then it tastes really good warm. And then once it cooled in the refrigerator, it came together more in a clump.
And that's where I think I need to find something to mold it. Because I just put it in a bowl. Whereas if I had taken it and molded it, it would have been easier to slice it. Because I tried it on sandwiches and it really didn't melt. It got softer back to when I made it. But it didn't melt like a mozzarella or a Colby or a cheddar would on a sandwich. It was still good. And actually, the gal that I watched that video on, she said they fry it.
They slice it. I don't know. Probably a quarter inch thick and put it in a pan and fry it until it's crispy. And I did that on one piece. And I was like, oh, that is pretty good. Yep. I made some, too. Now, I just followed a recipe I found on allrecipes.com. Oh, okay. I just found a simple farmer's cheese. And, of course, it's my grandma and my great-grandma made this, whatever, and went on. So I made some, too.
And I used the same thing. Gallon milk. Yeah, half a cup of white vinegar. I think I brought it up to 175. I think it was. Yeah, the hotter you get it, the firmer it gets. Bring it up more to 200. That's where it's really firm. Yeah. So I did that. And I didn't add any salt. I didn't add anything. I just made it straight just as it was written or whatever. And I did post on our Facebook page about it, asking other people what they do because I find it extremely bland and extremely boring.
And, oh, my goodness, we got all kinds of suggestions asking what to add. I don't know if you've looked at that. I haven't read all of them. Okay. Yeah, you should look at that. Somebody was adding jalapenos. And they all said to add it. Let's see. You add the salt and any seasonings you wanted to after it drains. Add it then before you put it into any kind of a mold or shape it however you want to do that.
So did you press yours? Yes, I did. First, I squeezed all the way out as much as I could just using the cheesecloth in my hands. And then I did hang it. I did just like you did. I had, you know, gallon jug on top of a plate on top of my strainer, you know, my colander. And I don't know. I don't know. I probably left it there 40 minutes. I didn't leave it real long because it was done.
There was nothing draining. So I just simply put it in a little square dish that I had, a glass dish that I had and did that. But, yeah, Rich is like, this is kind of boring. I'm like, yeah, there's just nothing here. So that's why I put on Facebook, hey, you know, what do you guys do? Because I know people talk about how great farmer's cheese is. And it's like, this is boring. And I did try frying it.
We did fry some. I just sprinkled a little salt on top of it. But I should have put a lot more. I can tell you. I thought I liked the texture of it because it kind of looked like a egg white, a fried egg white. That's what it looked like to me. Okay. And I just done like a long slice, you know, I had a square pan. But I was thinking this morning, I was like, oh, I should try cutting it in little cubes and then frying it.
Oh, that might then it would be, you know, brown. So it would be kind of like when we went to the cheese curd festival where they fried them. Yeah. But was that cheddar that they fried though? I don't remember. I don't know. Because I didn't have any of that. Yeah. My son had it. Yeah. I don't know. But I was like, I think there's potential there. Learning curve. I haven't had a real chance to play around with it a whole lot.
But other than that, it's just been cheese, cheese, cheese, cheese in my kitchen. When I've been home, we've had a lot. We've been busy this week. I don't leave the farm for a year and a half. And I cram everything into like a week and a half. We went to a retreat last weekend. Last night, I was in Chanhassen at the dinner theater for work. And now this weekend, we have a wedding. And I'm like, okay, three events in like less than two weeks or whatever.
I'm like, oh, my gosh. So besides cheese, not a lot else has been happening in my kitchen right now. I've made several batches of cheddar. I have Colby sitting on top of the Harvest Rite right now, air drying. The Harvest Rite has also been running in my kitchen. Let's see. What did we put in? Oh, I was doing liver. I have somebody who asked me to dry liver, kidney, pancreas, thyroid was in there. And then she also wanted the reproductive organs done from the beef that they purchased from us.
She asked that I try to freeze dry that. I will tell you that the reproductive organs did not work very well. Oh, did they not dry or what? They didn't dry. I think there's just too much fatty tissue throughout the whole thing. And so we just ran it for as long as we thought we could. And then we just simply vacuum sealed it in the Avid Armor machine. And then I told her, you need to keep this in the freezer because I don't know that it's preserved real well.
But she was going to put it in her dehydrator and dehydrate it some more. And then she's going to put it in capsules and take it as a dietary supplement. With the fat, the dehydrator would probably take it down a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. I told her, if nothing else, you probably could try to cut that fat out of there, you know, or I honestly don't know how to do that. But I will tell you that if you're going to freeze dry kidney, you do need there's a fat thing that runs through the center.
And that should be cut out of there before you put in the freeze dryer. That's the other thing that didn't freeze dry quite the way I thought it should. The meaty part was all fine, but I did not know what that was in the center. And I'm pretty sure that was just fat or something like that. But it was really tough to cut through because I sliced the kidney to put it into the freeze dryer. And when I hit that, it was really hard, almost like, I don't want to say cartilage, but it was a little bit harder to cut through than the fleshy part of the kidney, if that makes sense.
How small did you slice it? Oh, gosh, it was probably a half inch, maybe. So a meat slicer would have been awesome. Yeah, that would have worked. I mean, it cut it just that when I got when I hit that part, it was just a little tougher. And once I got through, it was just fine there. And so that would be my only suggestion that you remove that, that little, I don't know if it's a vein or what is I don't know a whole lot about kidneys.
I mean, I have a nursing degree, but I don't know a whole lot about dissecting a kidney from a cow. But anyway, so that worked out pretty good. And Krius did really, really nice. That was cubed already from the butcher. Oh, okay. And we just sliced up the bacon. I wish. We sliced up the liver and she was going to powder all of that. And we had vacuum sealed everything for her with the Avid Armor. And that worked really, really slick.
And she picked it up when she picked up her milk order. That was what was going on in the harvest right this week. And I've got peppers and tomatoes, entrees ready to go in. We're done podcasting today. It's a little noisy to record with, right? Yes, it is. And so the tomatoes on there are still yours. There's a tomatillo in there and some tomatoes that I found in the freezer. So get back to it. Yep. So it's just a little portion that's probably a couple cups.
That's all there is. So you'll have that to pick up whenever we get that finished. This year, when I do tomatoes, I am going to dice my tomatoes, not cube it. Because basically I would quarter a tomato and throw it in a plastic bag. But I'm going to dice it this year so they're smaller and I think they dry. Yep. And I've defrosted them because we had them in the freezer. So I defrosted them because they were just big chunks.
So I defrosted them and then I tried to squeeze out a bunch of water out of them, a bunch of juice out of them so that they would hopefully dry as quickly as the peppers because the peppers are going to be a little bit drier, you know, just by volume. And then I was going to make some cream cheese, some more cream cheese. But I realized I ran out of cultures from Cultures for Health. That's where I get my cream cheese culture.
And so I have that on order and that's coming probably next week. So I'll start making a little bit more cream cheese. So we need to use up what I have. There's not too much left. Aren't they? One time you had like 12 pounds. Yeah, I was going to say, nope, I've been fully using it up. So I'm like, oh. And I was like, I had all this cream ready and I'm like, oh, whoops. I don't have the culture.
And then I was like looking at another recipe and I'm like, nope, I don't want to do it that way. I want to do it the Cultures for Health one because that's what we like. We like that. The taste is really good. Yeah, the taste is good. I've given out samples out or whatever and everybody's like, it tastes so good. It's so much better than the store-bought stuff. And, you know, so Rich and I did do some research.
We happened to be in the grocery store at the same time and he was looking at cream cheese. And the stuff in the store has salt in it and most of them have some kind of a gum in them. The organic stuff has locust bean gum in it. I think he looked at the Walmart brand and that had like three different ones in it along with salt. Mine doesn't have anything. Mine is cream and culture. I don't know.
I don't know if that gum stuff has something to do with longevity of it. I haven't researched that to see why they use those gums. Yeah, because yours in the refrigerator is a week, two weeks. Yeah, that's what it says for a week. But now Rich vacuum sealed the last batch I made and we vacuum sealed it in 8-ounce packages. And now that stuff seems to be lasting longer. Yeah. So just like you were saying with your fruit, you know, now that we vacuum seal it, that would make it last longer.
So I took off another gallon of milk, I took cream off it thinking I'm going to do more sour cream. And so I did. I took just cream, took some of the clabbered cream from that first batch and mixed it in there. And it clabbered really nicely. And it says it only lasts about a week or so, too. And so I put it in a jar and vacuum sealed it. So I'm expecting to get two weeks out of it.
It will be interesting to see how long it lasts so we kind of have an expiration date for our products. I'm like, I don't think it will last in my refrigerator. Well, maybe that's your problem, too. You've got to have a little sample hidden back. Yeah, maybe that's the thing. Maybe I will take a little, except it's hard to vacuum seal like a jelly jar. Oh, okay. They're harder to seal. I don't know why it is.
Quarter paints don't vacuum seal really well. They probably would in your Avid Armor. Yes, they might. If we put them in there. Maybe we could try that. We don't use a lot of cream cheese in our house. You're just getting creative. Yeah, I'm just getting creative with it because I have... How much can you put in your hot dish? My mom never did that, so it's like to me that's just a foreign thing to put that stuff in.
Oh, no, my mom never did either. Yeah. I never had cream cheese until I was an adult. Mom would just have the stuff that she put on like toast or something. No. Spreadable stuff or whatever. And if we made cream cheese frosting, that was the only other time that we really had cream cheese in the house. The only time we had frosting in our house was on birthdays. Yeah. And then butter. Mom bought butter butter. Yep.
We always had real butter. And so it's like it wasn't until later years that we got margarine in it. Yeah, margarine we bought for baking and butter was on the table. That was how it was in our house. Oh, funny. Margarine was like 10 cents a pound way back then. Yeah. So we have like 10 pounds of it or whatever. Anyway. Okay. All right. So Herb of the Week. Whoops. Whoops. Yeah. That was a big whoops.
So we started that feature on our last podcast. And Jamie failed. So it's a new thing. So Jamie's like, oh, yeah, right. And I didn't even bring the book. Otherwise, I would just read out of my book because that's otherwise if I try to get my memory, I would forget something important. So next week, or next recording, we'll implement that again and find a herb that we're interested in. Maybe we can pick one that we decided to use in our farmer's cheese or something.
Oh, yeah. Pick out a herb like that or something. So instead of talking about the Herb of the Week, I thought maybe I'd talk a little bit about this book that I got in the mail. You haven't seen this yet. I was like, oh, she's got a book over there. We were contacted by the publisher company for Jill, I think it's burnout, Reagan would be my guess, from Whispering Willows Farm. And she has put out a book all about, no, I thought the tiny but mighty farm.
And I thought maybe it would have some animal stuff in it, but it really is orientated for the gardener. And so while we were traveling yesterday, I did page through it. I did not read it, but I did page through it. And I think that this is probably something you might want to read. Yeah, she pushes it at me. It talks about raised beds and all your options. She's got greenhouses, a glass house, incredible. I wonder, does she have a YouTube? She probably does.
She's got like three girls. She looks familiar. There's a lot of information in there. And I am not the gardener of this pair. And so I thought maybe you would be interested in that. I would like to read it eventually. But I thought maybe it talks about seedlings and starting. I mean, it's just packed full of information in that book. Kind of looking forward to see what you think. And if you learn anything from her. Yeah, she farms in Arkansas.
Oh, okay. Yeah, her climate's a little different than ours. She's probably a zone six or a zone seven, something like that. And she talks about winter gardening, which is something we don't really know. It's too up here. It's just a little too cold. Not unless you have a greenhouse. Or a hoop house, maybe. Yeah. You could get away with green. You could have started greens early enough that you would basically, you're just holding them. You're holding them in the ground until you harvest them.
Yeah, as I was going to say, you almost need heat. You need some kind of a heat source because it just gets too cold at night. Yeah, because the shorter the days, the colder it gets. They're not growing anymore. So the point to have a winter harvest, you need to start them early enough in August, September, so that by the time November, end of October, November hits, they're at the size. And they're just going to hang there.
Hopefully. Yeah, or like carrots. If they're in a hoop house, they're pretty much protected. And if they're in the ground and protected, you can come out and dig them. As long as you can dig the ground, you can dig them. Radishes, I think, too, you can do that with. Because I have done that. I've kept carrots in the ground until the end of November. And eventually our ground freezes. Yeah. So, you know, it's like when it's like, oh, it's getting down there.
It's like, okay, we got to go out and dig everything out of the ground that you want. Have you ever left carrots in the ground over winter and then tried to harvest them in the spring? No. Okay. Now, to get carrot seeds, carrots are biannual. And so if you want to grow carrots to gather your own seeds, you need to do that. You need to leave them in the ground so that they grow the second year.
And then they'll seed the second year. Same thing with onions. Onions, you know, I've done that where accidentally where it's like, oh, I missed. You know, an onion didn't grow up, but it was big enough that the next year it regrew. And it will make seeds next year. But then it comes to where you have to have one variety. Otherwise you're making a hybrid. And if you don't mind making a hybrid yourself, that's totally fine. Yeah, I think we talked about that before about the onions.
I think you've talked to me about that. Yeah. So, you know, if you have more than one variety, they will cross-pollinate. Okay. Cool. That's awesome. I'm excited. Is that a read? So thank you to Jill Reagan, I would say Reagan, for sending this out to us. Yes. And so we'll take a look at that and see what we learn. Get a review on it. Yes. So I think we need to take a break here to hear from our sponsors.
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I've been kind of looking and researching a little bit, and I sent my cast iron. I have your cast iron in my kitchen right now. We ransacked our old home in town, and Rich found some cast iron in there that's been neglected for many, many years. You've been out here? How long have you been out here? We've been out here about 14, 15 years. Yeah. And that cast iron did not travel with us to the farm.
So he brought that home, and you took it from me. I took it. Well, probably because in my research notes, I didn't do a whole lot on restoration. I have a resource for them if they want to go figure out because actually I was researching, and I was like, there's quite a few ways to do it. And so I'll just tell you how I do it. My husband's a mechanic, and he researched how to get rust off metal.
And he does what's called electrolysis. And I don't understand all the science and stuff, but the big main ingredient in his tub of goo is molasses. And when he opens this tub, it has a lid on it, thank heaven. When he opens that, it smells like he's out there with your cows on the ground. I put rubber gloves on to handle your cast iron because it lingers on your hands. And he has hooks. He put the wire on the handle and then dips it down.
And he's got a 55-gallon barrel that he hangs this stuff in. He uses it to like getting the rust off an old engine that he's restoring. It's called electrolysis, and it will take the old seasoning out, and it will take rust off the metal. And now another thing that we learned, because then when he pulls it out, he pressure washes it, and then he takes it over to the air hose and uses an air gun to dry it.
Because he's like going, well, you've got to get those home and get them oiled right now. And I go, no, the pan you did to me for mine last week, it's been because I was like, am I going to do a pan in the oven seasoning it, or am I going to wait and fill the whole oven? An oven full. And so I just left mine on top of my stove, and it has not rusted. He got it dry enough with the air hose that it didn't rust.
And so your pans look brand new, like they're fresh off the factory floor with no seasoning. That's amazing. I have a video. That's what I was talking about, the video. You don't listen. So yeah, you video the process that you do. Now, granted, most of our listeners probably don't have access to that. No, no. So then you go back to vinegar, soap and water, and mussels. So the website that I landed on, and I really liked their research and everything was, and how they did it was called SeriousEats.com.
They had multiple articles on care of cast iron, buying cast iron, their favorite cast iron, myth of cast iron, what to cook in cast iron. So they had a whole gamut of it. And so I took from there, and I mean, I'm taking it from their website, not word for word, but their bullet points. And so it's like, oh, yeah, and actually I found out some things that I was doing wrong with my cast iron. I was like, oh, okay.
So my three main cast iron skillets will be going to the shop and have the old seasoning taking off, and I will be re-seasoning them. So are you going to do the electrolysis, that type of thing? Because I watched Jill Winger from the Prairie Homestead, and she had done a video, and she was trying to save a skillet that she had purchased at a garage sale. It didn't even have a label on it. She didn't know what brand or whatever.
And so she said, I kind of hung it there because it's kind of dirty, and I didn't really want it. And she said it was just hanging on her wall or wherever. And so she went through what she did to get all the gunk off of it. And she said it was greasy from just hanging. I think she had it hanging over her stove. And so there was some grease buildup from that, and she had shown how it was shiny or whatever and how some of this was chipping off.
And so her research told her that they needed to sand that using a drill. And so she went out to her husband's shop, and he's like, OK, well, I'm going to try this. And he tried a brush, and that didn't work. And so then they finally landed on this sandpaper thing. It was kind of like the texture of a sponge with that scrubby side on it. OK, the green pad. The green one, yep, the green one.
And so he did that, and he took all of that off of her. I don't know how long it took, but that's what they finally settled on, basically what her research had told her, that that's what they needed to use. And that worked really well. And so she had this pan that didn't even look like cast iron. Honestly, it looked like a silver pan. It was silver. That's what yours kind of looked like. OK, all right.
And so she brought that back into the house to season it. She started out with coconut oil because they said her research told her, coconut oil or flaxseed oil, I think it was. So she went ahead and used the coconut oil because that's what she had. She didn't have flaxseed oil. She didn't like how it went. She baked it. She put the seasoning on. She seasoned it with the coconut oil, put it in the oven at 400 degrees for 30 minutes, and it didn't look like she wanted it.
So she redid it again, seasoned it again, put it back in, and she did it, oh, I don't know, four or five times, something like that. Still didn't like it. Left it cool in the oven overnight. Got it up in the morning. She had a residue on it. She didn't like how that worked. So she did some more research, and then that research told her that she needed something that was a seasoning that had a high smoke point.
And so she, lard, flaxseed oil came up again. Those were your two best options. Again, she doesn't have flaxseed oil, so she went with lard. And she then decided she wanted the oven hotter and for longer. So she put the lard on her pan, put it in the oven at 500 degrees for an hour, then took it out, let it cool off or whatever, and then took it out and then re-seasoned it a second time, put it in the oven, and then cooked it for another hour at that 500 degrees, and then shut it off, let it cool in the morning, and she was, her pan looked fantastic in the morning.
Okay. And so that's, for her, that's what worked. Yep. There is enough opinions about how to season cast iron and how to care for cast iron. We could start a war over this. Yep, that's kind of what Jill said, and I also watched something from Carolyn from Homesteading Family, and she was saying the same thing. There's just all kinds of opinions. Just kind of figure it out and what works for you. Yep. Type of oil, you know, from saturated, you know, to unsaturated.
I personally like this. I like bacon fat, lard. Coconut oil, I don't like as, I don't think it puts, it gets as hard. So from Serious Eats, they said, the one thing they said about flaxseed oil is that if you're not using your cast iron often enough and it's got flaxseed in it, flaxseed will go rancid. Oh, okay. I had not heard of that one. Yeah. So they did not recommend oils that I don't cook with, like canola oil, vegetable oil, corn oil.
Those are not in my house, whereas there are plenty of saturated fat stuff in my house. And for the person that doesn't know what seasoning a cast iron is, I mean, it's not putting spices on your cast iron and cooking them. Seasoning is the black seal that you put on from using fats. But even when you go out and buy a brand new cast iron that's supposed to be pre-seasoned, yeah, most of them are pre-seasoned, but they still say you want to put a couple coats on it.
And one coat is not enough. They're talking restoring like Jill did. You're going to want to put four, five, six coats on it. They had a little more easier process than Jill. They said the easiest way to do it is to wash it, especially if you're doing a total restoration like yours. I will take, wash it with, and hold on to everybody. They say use soap and water. Yep. There's heads rolling right now from saying that.
Because I was always, no, you never put soap on cast iron, you know, because it pulls the seasoning out. And it's like, no, if a true seasoned pan that is cooked in there hard enough, that soap will, and you're not leaving it, sitting it. You're just doing a quick wash and rinsing it off. And so you're going to wash it, and then you're going to dry it, and then you're going to sit it on top of your stove, turn the flame on, dry it.
You want to get all that water out of there before you start oiling it. I don't know what happened if you didn't. But so you want to do that. And then they say you want to put on a light coat of oil. You want to put oil on it, and then you want to rub it and buff it until it looks like it has no oil on it with a paper towel or a rag. And then you want to put it in your oven at your 425, 450, 500, and only a half hour.
They say if you rub it in well enough and buff it in enough, you don't even have to turn it upside down. You can if you're worried about it pooling, but if it's pooling inside a skillet or something, you left too much oil on it. And so, and then they say to do that three, four times to get your initial seasoning. And then every time that you're using it, I mean, use it, and the best way to build up your seasoning is to use it to cook a steak, cook a chicken, fry some bacon in it.
And then when you're done, you want to wash your skillet. I wash it immediately because if you leave it sit, it's a pain to clean. That's just my philosophy in life in any pan. I'm not one of those to cook and come back four hours later and try to clean it. No, that is, yeah, okay, Carol, we'll give you that award. But, you know, that is, you know, I don't want to have to sit there and scrub.
And I read some video about that, too, about making cheese. It's like you want to clean that cheese pot right away. Yes, you do. That residue is not fun once it dries. And stuff, and so that's their thing is that you wash it right away with soap and water. And I'm like going, that just blew my mind, soap and water. Actually, soap and water, I don't know what I was watching on TV, maybe one of the cooking shows on PBS.
And they had the guy from Lodge, Cast Iron. And he's like, yeah, you can wash it. You can wash it with soap. You just, you don't need to wash it with soap, you know. You don't need to. Yeah, if you feel as though you need to put some soap on there in a little bit and to clean it up or whatever, that's fine. It's not going to ruin your cast iron. It's not going to. And I was like, huh.
Yeah, so that's it. So same thing, same process. You know, that was in multiple articles of theirs is that to clean it, you wash it with soap and water, and then you want to dry it, and then you want to sit it on your stove or on your electric stove, and you want to get it hot. And you want to get all the water out of the pores and everything. And then you want to re-oil it.
If it's been seasoned initially and you're just everyday using it, then you heat it up, oil it, dry it out, oil it like you did before. Just put a coat of oil in on it and rub it in and buff it out so it's not, it does not have oil sitting in it. Because if you leave it sit there a few days or a week and you come back to it, it'll be a gunky, gummy residue.
Because many years ago, I used to go camping with a church group where we took 30 girls out to the woods, and we camped on stoves. Yeah. Yeah. We took, well, maybe it was, you know, we cooked, yeah, we probably cooked for 30 people, but we probably took 20, 25 girls with us. Granted, there were five or six adults doing this with us. I was one of the cooks. When we cooked on stoves and we had cast iron, we cooked over the fire.
And we would, the boys would have used this cast iron in the spring, oiled it, and put it in the trailer. And then we would bring it out in September, and a lot of times it would have gummy on it and we'd have to clean it. And so, yeah, so you don't want to leave too much oil pooling in the bottom of your skillets or something. Okay. You want to just, you want to film it, buff it out, and then, you know, and then you let it cool.
Once you dry it, wash it, dry it on the stove, put some oil on it when it's hot, and then, you know, with a paper towel or a rag, wipe out the excess. And my secret to that is I use welding gloves as oven mitts. And so to take a paper towel on a hot skillet and rub it out is no problem. Now, my husband cannot use my rubber, my welding gloves, because the fingers have been hot so often they're short.
That's a good thing. They can't get their hands in my gloves. Now, Carolyn from Homesteading Family, now I watched her care on cast iron. She basically followed that same thing she did, I believe, after she re-seasoned it, after using it and washing it and putting it on the stove and she put her oil on. She uses a rag because she uses a cast iron daily multiple times a day. Oh, yeah. So she has one dedicated cotton cloth that she uses, and she uses that all week, and then she throws that away and gets a new cloth.
Oh, okay. So you don't want that in your laundry. You don't want to put that in your laundry. And she said after a while, and she uses lard from their pigs, and she said after a while you don't even need to add lard to the rag towards the end of the week because there's enough in there to do that. And then after she seasoned it, then she heated it back up until it just started to smoke and then shut the burner off.
Oh, okay. That's how she did it. I don't know, that's the only thing I remember. And she had lots of don'ts. She had things you don't do. Don't ever put hot water in your hot pan. Oh, yeah. If you're going to wash it, you let your pan cool down. And don't ever put cold water in it either because that'll crack it. Just like a glass jar. That'll crack it. And she said you do not put it in the dishwasher.
Oh, okay. I've seen posts on Facebook. There's somebody who's like, I love my husband dearly, but he put my cast iron in the dishwasher. That might be grounds for divorce. And another one was you don't ever put your cast iron in the sink and put water in it to let it soak. Oh, no. Yep. That's an absolute no-no. And then she'll come back to a rusty mess. Yep. And the other one is don't use an abrasive soap.
Yep. No abrasive, no stainless steel or, you know, those scrubby things. That's my one that I've always done that. See, and I'm like, from this, they said the same thing. Yep. Do not use a scrubby. And, like, my mom had cast iron, and she didn't like it because she could never get it clean. So to me, this is really interesting to learn about this because my experience with cast iron as I was growing up was it was awful.
Everything stuck to it. It was heavy, and it was gunky, and you could never get it clean. And so now learning this stuff, you know, we just didn't care for it correctly. And, you know, I think back to her mother, my grandma, and trying to think, now, did grandma use cast iron? I honestly don't remember. I don't remember if my grandma cooked with cast iron or not. I can see her standing at the stove and cooking, but I have no idea what she was using for a pan, you know, that type of thing.
We had cast iron, but I did not know how to take care of it. My mom took care of it, or my dad took care of it. I know I cooked in, you know, fried hamburger. You know, goulash was my first dish I made, and I know I made goulash probably in a cast iron skillet. But do I remember? No. So, hence, when I first got my first cast iron skillet when I was newly married, I treated it wrong because I hated it.
Everything stuck to it. I hated it. I never got rid of it. I mean, you just kept it, and you used it. You never fried an egg in it, you know. Because you wouldn't get it out. Right, right. And stuff. And then I find out about seasoning and stuff like that, and it's like, oh. But, yeah, people that seriously eat, they were, like, going, yes, do not. And even I have one of these. I think my son gave it to me for Christmas.
It's chain mail. Yes, I've seen those. I have one, and I'd only use it when I absolutely had to, when something was cooked on. But that's where I would probably leave it. I'm one of those. I'm cleaning my pans right away, so I would never leave it set for hours. I'd probably leave it set for 15 minutes to soak, and then I'd come back and scrape it out. Or I have plastic scrapers from Pampered Chef that you get with their bar pans.
I use those on it to scrape out something. Like, just the other day, I don't even remember what I cooked in it, and I cooked it too much, and it's stuck to the side of it. And so then I needed a scrubber. I used a plastic scraper to scrape it out. Because I'm a stainless steel scrub person. I've used them for years. And I've taken my seasoning off. It's like, oh. Yep. Carolyn was talking about using metal utensils on your pans to get rid of those little egg scraps and stuff.
And she says that's the best thing to use. But don't ever use a knife. Don't ever cut in your pan, because that will cut into your seasoning. Seriously, they weren't so bad. But you're not doing it always in the same spot, I think, is what they said. To use your metal spatulas and stuff like that, you use a metal spoon and stuff like that, was fine. They had an article about myths, and you've covered some of them.
It's like, use your metal stuff. It's not like a nonstick pan where you're going to scrape off the finish. Yeah, I have a little spatula that I use to scrape some of that off, too. Cast iron is very, like I said, my experience as a kid growing up, and my mom was always so frustrated. But I know she did not ever season those pans. Oh, yeah. I know for a fact that she never did that. So I was turned off to cast iron completely.
Oh, no. I'm kind of like drooling over your pile of cast iron I have there in my house. Like, ooh, those are nice. Especially now that Bob cleaned them. Well, I hope I get them back. Oh, yeah, you will. I just wanted to clean them. I knew I wouldn't get it done, because he had them in the electrolysis five days. I was just going to ask. I forgot to ask you, how long did it take for that to work? Yeah, I think I want to say he hung them on Friday or Monday, because I picked them up Thursday.
Yeah, maybe it was Friday, because I put them in his way. You know, how do you get things done? Yeah, I know. You put them in their way, and then they're like, do you want me to do this? I'm like, yeah, please. Yes, and so it was Friday. Friday, he put them in the tank, and then he took them out yesterday. So that is five, six days. So we'll finish them this weekend, maybe. That sounds good.
A little pan, maybe. Yeah. Our producer. Feel free to cook in them a little bit and help season them a little bit for me. A little bit. All right. I bought one. I picked up a cornbread pan at a flea market this summer. Probably paid no more $5 for it, that one. So it's got all the dividing. I'm like, why did I buy that? That's going to be a pain to season. I was going to say, yes, more nooks and crannies.
Well, maybe it'll be worth it. Yeah. Maybe. Well, my best cast iron skillet, I paid $1 for it at a garage sale many moons ago. Nice. And it was rusty, gross, and they didn't have a price on it. And I picked it up. I'm like, what do you want for this? And they go, $1. And I go, sold. I'm like, do you know what this is, Brett? I mean, it's huge. It's probably a 12-inch skillet. It's huge.
And it's like a buck. Yes. That was big enough I could cook a whole meal for my family in it back in the day. Yeah, my kids were still young and everything back then. So it's like, oh, you've been using cast iron a long time then. Your children are all grown. I remember using it when I lived in Glenwood. And we lived in Glenwood from 88 until 93. So that's where I learned to get frustrated with it because you couldn't get it.
Yeah, because I was using a metal stainless steel scrubber, scraping off the finish, trying to look over my notes here quick. So you want to make sure. The biggest thing is most of the frustrating people have with it is that it rusts. And it's like you said, you do not want to leave water in it. You want to make sure you get it bone dry and then oil it. How do you store your cast iron? Did they have tips on that? Nobody said that.
I didn't read anything about that of anybody saying how they store it. I store mine in the oven in the way. And so every time you want to put something in the oven, I've got my three skillets on the stove. You use yours quite often. Yes, and so it's always in the – I have some in the oven. And then I have a drawer underneath my stove. And I have them in there because when you stack them all up, they're heavy.
And so to put them in – and I don't have a lot of lower cupboards. And so if I was going to put them in a lower cupboard, I would have to have some place where I could – I mean, I couldn't put them over my head. I couldn't lift them up that high to put them in a high cupboard. Yeah, so I just put them in the stove and the oven. And everybody says you shouldn't store pans in the oven.
I was like, it's cast iron. If they get hot, oh, boy, no problem. It doesn't matter there. Carolyn from Homesteading Family said if you're going to store them long-term where you're not using them on, you know, once a week or whatever, that you should – if you're stacking them, you should put a cloth or a paper towel in between your pans if you're stacking them because they will take off some of the seasoning or whatever. And I was like, oh.
Yeah, because my stove – I have a Frigidaire stove. It's a five-burner stove, kind of like yours. But I have a griddle that fits on my middle. And so the griddle is always on it on my stove because we use it quite a bit. And so that extra grate is always in the bottom drawer. And then a lot of times my, like – I have, like, the small – I have a couple small skillets that are, like, great for frying eggs.
And so those are always down there because they're littler and they fit around that grate. And you probably use them almost daily. Well, not daily because Bob still grabs a nonstick pan and makes his scrambled eggs. Hey, he's cooking for himself much more than what my husband does. Just saying. Yeah, well, because otherwise he would not get breakfast. No, my husband gets breakfast. I think we started that when I drove full-time for the bus company. And you left early.
I left the house at 6, 10 in the morning. And so if he wanted breakfast, I'm thinking that had to have been when he started cooking his own breakfast. Rich can maybe do a bowl of cereal, cold cereal, if he had to. You know, I'm not sure, but yeah. Yeah, he doesn't really cook very much. He will grill. So did we cover everything? One thing, most people, they'll say that, you know, that it has even heat, but truly it doesn't have total even heat, you know, because it takes more.
So, like, if you're going to use a big skillet, you don't want to put it on a small burner. You want a burner the size of your skillet or your pot. Oh, that's a good tip. Because even though it's heating it, it's not going to heat it all the way out and around it. So you need to, you know, you need to think about that when your heat source matches your pan. Okay. What about using your cast iron in your oven, like a Dutch oven? Have you done much cooking like that? Not a whole lot.
I've done bread in the Dutch oven. Oh, have you done the no-knead, that type? I think I did a sourdough. Okay. And I don't do it a whole lot because that's not Bob's favorite type, shape of bread. Okay. He wants it to look like a sandwich bread. I love an artesian bread. I love the crust and everything like that because you get a different crust on that than you do in, like, a loaf pan. He's just not cultured enough, I guess.
I know. I don't know. And so I'm still not proficient at that, but it was fun. And that would be a cobbler. Even if it doesn't turn out great, it still tastes pretty good. That's what my brother-in-law did when he was here. They put it into the fire. They used, like, a can of pie filling and a few other things. I don't remember all of it. But it was kind of cool. I think we may have used, like, refrigerator biscuit-type tube things, pop them, Pillsbury.
Yep. So I have a Dutch oven. I do, too. Right at your place. It's not a real big one. No, but it would be a great size for making bread. Yep. Well, that'll be fun to try that with my brand-new cast iron. That's what it's going to be like when it comes back to me. So, you know, so many people are afraid of cast, or scared of cast iron. That'd be me. Yeah. Right here. You know, in the world of Internet, Google, and stuff, there's really, I mean, search, research.
I mean, that's, it's like me, that I've been cooking with it for 30-some years. Found out, oh, I should not be using my metal scrubber on it, wrecking my seasoning. And so, hence, I will be re-seasoning all of my personal fillets, too, in the next few weeks. But, yeah, so, I mean, learn how to use it. I mean, the biggest thing is, water is, do not leave water sit in it. But you can, once you get it seasoned enough, you can even cook tomato sauces in it.
I used it the other day to make my lasagna. I browned my meat in it, and I put my spaghetti sauce in that, and heated it up. And it did not wreck it. So, it's like, you can cook almost anything in a cast iron. As long as it's seasoned correctly, and you know how to take care of it. I think the care is the hardest part, probably, to learn how to care for your cast iron. Yeah.
You care for it right, it will treat you right. And it will last generations. I mean, you know, you're thinking, people are still, you know, cast iron that was made in the 1800s, people are still using it somewhere, because it's so durable. You know, it's not made the same today as it was back then. There's different, they changed the technique once they got to where they needed to produce it faster. The manufacturing, you know, changed from the 1800s to, like, the 50s, 60s.
They started changing to what we have nowadays. It's not as smooth nowadays as it was back where they used to pour it. Now they, different techniques is how. Yeah, I've heard that too, that the cast iron of yesteryear is not the same. But it's just as good. Yeah. It's just as good. And the only downside to cast iron is maybe the weight of it. I was going to say, it is heavy. It is heavy, especially if you stack three skillets.
I have three skillets in my oven, and you stack them all up, they're heavy. And, like, your milk, it's a milk crate that we have yours in. It took a little bit for me to carry that in the house from the, my son wasn't there. Sorry. My son wasn't there, and I thought, well, I'm not leaving them out here in the cold. And so it took everything I had to pick that milk crate up. Well, you know, you could have carried them individually.
No, that would be like trying to carry individually shopping bags in. Don't have as many as you can. Yep. And I'm only, like, 10 feet from my kitchen in my garage. So I think that's probably it. I mean, do your research. Yep. And then they're awesome to use. I mean, and we didn't even touch, I didn't even want to go there with, you know, enamel coated cast iron. They're totally, I mean, and if you're worried about the seasoning and stuff, go with enamel.
I would say go with enamel because you don't have to worry about the seasoning. You know, there's still some other care that you probably would have to do with it, but you don't have to worry about the seasoning of it. If you want to get some of the benefits of a cast iron skillet with making bread or anything like that, go with enamel coated, you know. But they're expensive. I'm sure they are. But I think that's probably it.
Okay. So if you have any questions for Jamie about her cast iron. Pop over to Facebook. We would see it quicker on Facebook than probably anywhere else. Probably. So, yeah, we try to answer our questions. You know, not that I'm the know-all. I may seem like it, but I don't know everything. Well, you know more about cast iron than I do. I've learned a lot from you today and just in the little bit of research I did.
I mean, I literally researched just a little bit beforehand just because I don't have time. I haven't had time this week. But, you know, and if you're looking at recipes, there's all kinds of people out there with recipes. You have to cook enough. I mean, that's it. You have to start cooking and figure it out. So for the newbie who's just gotten their brand new pan and they've gone through and seasoned it like they were supposed to, what should be the first thing they cook in that pan? Bacon.
Bacon. Because you're getting more grease in there. Okay. And then I would probably move on to steak. Okay. That's what Jill used. That was the first thing she put in her pan. She'll have butter in there and she'll put grass-fed steaks in there. Yep. Something like that. So you're building up more of that seasoning and stuff. And then once you get it really seasoned well, let's use hamburgers. I mean, you could do some hamburgers in there.
Get a splatter screen. How do I know? It's a daily thing at my house is wiping the grease off my stove. It's like my cupboards yearly. You almost kind of need to strip them because I cook with a lot of grease and cast iron. So, yeah. Find a recipe. Make a cobbler. Is there any restriction on temperature as to how hot you should have your burners? I do not think so. That type of thing. I mean, can you put it on high heat? The highest heat possible for that burner? I mean, because I have some pans that I use now, and I'm never supposed to use anything over medium-high heat on them because you'll ruin the finish on them.
Now, they're not an expensive pan. I mean, they're expensive to me, but they're really not that expensive. But they're not a Teflon nonstick pan. They're an enamel pan. I didn't think, you know, Jill was seasoning hers at 500 degrees. You're not going to get 500 degrees on a stovetop skillet, I don't think. Would you want to cook at that temperature? It depends on what you're cooking. I mean, if you're searing a steak, you're going to get it done really quick.
And sometimes that's what you want. But you're not going to cook an egg at 500 degrees because you're going to have— Yeah, that's not going to go well. No. And an egg is probably not the first thing you should fry in a cast iron skillet. No, I wouldn't. If you don't know, you know, you want something fatty. If you're working with a lot of fat, smoke point, you're going to have to think about smoke. Do you have your fire extinguisher handy? Because I don't think a fire extinguisher would be really good for stuff.
So you don't want to start your stove on fire. Right. I was just curious if there were any limits as to how hot you want that skillet when you're using it. I always go by whatever I'm cooking. Is it probably medium? I don't ever do high, high. Maybe unless I'm making a stir fry. But you're not leaving it there very long. Probably even still do stir fry at medium. Maybe going a little off medium. Because then I have, my stove has some big burners that they're made to heat up quick.
And so I don't even turn those up. Because then, you know, it's like I've, you know, a Dutch oven with legs and stuff. I've thrown them in a fire with ashes around them. Good point. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. So it's like, you're not going to hurt the metal. We don't even talk about cleaning a pan after it's been in a fire. That was a little messy. Yeah. I can imagine. That was before the days of using soap and water.
Before. Oh, true. Yeah. Before it was like, oh, I've got to try to get this water clean with just water. And it's like, that was hard. But now it's like, now I can use some soap to get some of that ash residue off. Soot off. Because, yeah, they come out of the fire really sooty. I can imagine. Yeah. And your clothes, if you're carrying them, because they're heavy. My Dutch oven that's big enough, because I have one that has the clouds that can go out on the fire.
It's pretty heavy. So once it's cool to carry it up against your body. Yeah, you're going to have. Yeah, soot everywhere. Time to wear an apron. Yeah, I did. Now you say that. I did wear an apron when I was out camping like that. Yeah, keep yourself a little cleaner. So I think that's our expertise on cast iron. And once I get my cast iron back, I'll maybe put some updates on how I'm using it and that type of thing on our Facebook page and Instagram.
I'm hoping to get pictures on our Facebook of your stuff. Okay. Yep. You've taken pictures along the way. And so you can see how the electrolysis type stripping of the cast iron works. The pressure washer after he takes the pressure washer to it. It was like amazing. All right. If you enjoyed our podcast, please give us a thumbs up or a like on Facebook. You can find us at TwoGalsHomesteading.com, TwoGalsHomesteading on Facebook and Instagram. Make sure you share our podcast with those friends of yours, even people you don't like.
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