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The Land Talk in July was about evolution. The participants discussed the idea of evolving as people and how experiences shape us. They also talked about evolving relationships, parenting styles, work relationships, and even architecture and art. They touched on the evolution of culture and language as well. Some interesting points were made about how language can change over time and how words can evolve in their meaning. The participants also discussed the importance of being open-minded and willing to change as individuals and as a society. Thank you for joining us for our Land Talk in July, dealing with evolution, with today is Christina. Hello. We have Ari. Hey. And then me, Jessica. So talking about evolution, we had just some discussions, but we really didn't have too much to say on this topic. It's just kind of one that took us off-guard. The only thing that I could come up with is the idea of evolving as people. Like evolution as a person. Who I was 10 years ago is not who I am today. Yeah. So we kind of learn from events and different things that happen. And I was wondering if there's anything that you guys have learned from that has helped you as a person. Who wants to go first? I don't want to go first. You don't want to go first? Yeah. Okay. Let's see. Oh, yeah. I was I mean, I have some decent advice to give my kid now. You know, as she got married and they were talking about kids, I was like, just make sure you guys are on the same page as far as, you know, parenting before issues pop up. Like talk about things ahead of time because that's something that that their dad and I did not do. And then we had, we found out, we have very different things, different parenting styles. So, and also two different kids had two different moms, basically. Okay. You know, like I was, I don't know, everything had to be perfect with the first one. And then the second one, you know, I was able to, I was much more comfortable. I knew what worked and what didn't. And so I was able to pass on some advice that I got, you know, through evolutionary means, going through many stages. It makes me think of that commercial that they have on TV with, like, the pacifier. Like, the first mom is, like, cleaning everything and, like, washing it. And then the second to, like, third kid, like, are you good? And just, like, plops the pacifier off the ground into the kid's mouth. Doesn't even wipe it. Just like, yeah, it's good for you. You'll be fine. You'll survive. What kind of brings up the idea that, like, there's, I guess, there's an evolution of relationships. Like, you start, like, dating, like, the beginning stage, which I hate. I just want to say this. Those little beginning things, like, uncertainty is the worst ever. And then you get into, like, the comfort phase. And then, like, the marriage. And, like, do we want a pet or do we want a kid? And then, like, as you grow into, like, what do we want to do with our time and everything. So it's interesting to, like, consider that type of evolution, too. Yeah. Yeah. I never thought about that. It's just something funny because you, like, even, let's say you marry someone today. In 10 years, you are not going to be the same person who married today. And the person who you are with is not going to be the same person who married to you today. So you both have evolved, or, like, I hope that you both have become better persons than what you were and just still decided to be together. Just still decided, like, hey, we can make this work out. You know, actually, I think the best relation to that is evolution of work relationships. Of, like... Oh, there's that, too. Yeah. Of, like, I've had the idea of where, like, I started with someone. We both, like, I worked in a place for a number of years. And then, like, I wanted to keep getting better and keep growing. And then, like, three years later, this person is still at the same spot. It feels like, like, they haven't evolved. They chose not to evolve. But, like, I'm, like, I want to go off and do better, better things. Like, I'm not just going to call out of work because you want to go out and, like, go to the beach. Like, it's, like, the difference of, like, evolution of, like, what happens when the person or people around you don't evolve. Right. You lose people in your life. You shed, like, onions, like, layers of what you don't want. Yes. Yeah. What's your answer to an event or anything that helped you to evolve as a person? I don't know if it helped, like, me to evolve, but it helped me to understand how people, oh, my, or, like, let's say the fact that people evolve. Because I used to get an impression of someone and you'd be left at that. This person might change. They might know. I will still be left to the, with the first impression that I got, that I got from them. If the first time, if the first time I meet you, I thought you were rude, you could be nice the rest of your life, and I would still be around, like, no, they are rude. Because I was, like, I used to be a stalking dad, and it wasn't until I meet up with a friend that I, I went to, it would be elementary school here, yeah, elementary school together. We weren't that close together, and he used to say, like, some stupid things. I don't want to say specifically because they are gross, but they used to say some stupid things and had opinions that I didn't like. And when we were meeting up, he, he didn't take it all back. He didn't say, like, I was wrong, but when the subject came out, he was like, well, who cares? Who cares? This is not important anymore. We are still, like, and we should not care about that. We should not be talking about that way and this way. He completely changed, and it was the first moment in years, and I was like, oh, this is a completely different person than the one I met when I was a kid. And it sounds obvious, but for me it wasn't. For me, he was going to be the same person ever, and he wasn't. He grew up, he matured, and I love it. Even if we still don't have the same opinions, I really love the fact that he can change and that I notice it. He can let me know. Well, that's kind of the definition of evolution, is change. I think one of my favorite types of evolution is architecture. Like, as building designs have changed, I mean, you always have culture influence, but, like, even if you look at, like, Victorian London, like, that specific type of, like, architecture has still, like, changed and grown, and, like, it's such a pretty thing. I was looking at buildings, and, like, how, like, we used to use sticks, but now we use stones, and it's, like, but you're doing the same things. You're just doing it differently. It's so pretty. So pretty. Do you have any type of, like, evolution, or, like, outside of, like, a person that you think is kind of cool, seeing something transform or change? A particular, like, thing, anything. Anything. I'm sorry. My friend sent me a video yesterday of these rocks. I'll show you guys. We might have to cut this out. No, I think we can. I can send the link along with it. Well, even maybe for, like, the little square of this evolution can be rocks. Yeah. The actual picture. Yes. Oh, wow. So, for those listening, they used rocks, almost like a sketch pad, like, almost like rocks, like ink of different shades, to make an image. Oh, that's beautiful. Of, like, transforming, and, like, right? Yeah. That's really cool. Oh, the evolution of art. Yes. Yeah. Oh, that's so cool. I'm kind of jealous. I wish I had a skill like that. Yeah. My daughter told me the other day, she came out of my, out of her room, and she was like, what? I just saw David Bowie's mugshot. He was arrested for marijuana? Back in the 70s? And I was like, oh, sweetie. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, she was, it just gave him more street cred in her book, but she was like, it's just such a weird thing to think that, you know, it was, that he got in trouble for that, you know. She's like, now there's just sensories everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is something that I really liked. I didn't think it, but you say it. There's, like, this constant evolution and changes in culture in general. Like, since everybody keeps changing, we also change as a group, and there are things that we are more interested on, and things that we keep leaving behind. I was talking to my mom, I think, about it. She's, like, not my mom, but my grandma still uses the same, like, products that she used to use when she was young, because she has stick to it. I keep changing, and I noticed that the branding of both of them was really different. So, when she was, like, a little younger, you have to have a name. You have to be a famous brand, and everybody has to knew the name and everything, and I was, like, the brand that I'm using right now is called, it's literally called The Ordinary. Like, we didn't want to think about a name. This is the name. Just gave it away, and everybody my age or around used it. So, there was, like, a shift in thinking in which we stopped caring about the name of things. One of the classes I'm taking is a capstone class, and you had to pick a topic or library trend and make a 20-minute webinar on it, and one of my classmates did the idea of a Spanish collection, and one of the points that she makes is that you still need to weed and maintain a Spanish collection, because customs and language goes out of date, but there's an evolution of language that, like, words that used to mean one thing now can mean a completely different thing in the Spanish language, and I was just like, what? It was just interesting. Like, I understand customs and things changing, because we see that, I think, a little bit more frequently, but language changing. I was like, whoa. Well, yeah, like, it may sound stupid, but I didn't know this. I didn't know that queer used to be an insult. Yeah? I didn't know that. I was not aware of that. Very, very early in its usage, I think it was a slur. It was slang for, like, different or whatever, but yeah. I cannot imagine that word being used as a slur. I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine it. Oh, yeah. I think one of the most, how I learned that was I watched the movie Milk. I think I did it here as, like, I forget why I did it, but I showed the movie here and everything, and it talked about that, and I was like, what? It's just like, whoa. What was the other thing we were talking about? We had a discussion about autism yesterday, and how even in medical fields, people used to say, what's the word, the Asperger's, and they no longer want that as a term to use with autism at all. They're trying to weed it out of the language. Oh, really? Yeah. It's normal. Now it's trying to be put inside the autism spectrum in general. Okay. Mm-hmm. Of, like, just the idea of evolution of even, like, in medical terms or the way we use to describe things. How are we supposed to keep up? It's a lot. It's hard. Yeah, it's hard, and I feel like the evolution of technology makes it ten times harder. Yes. Well, it depends on how you use it, because the Internet, the main point of the Internet is being connected with everybody all of the time. I think this is the best example of a generational evolution difference. Yeah, you have three different generations in the Internet now. Yeah. So, if you manage, I haven't, but if you manage to keep up with everything that is happening on the Internet, you manage to keep up with language and everything. They will, somebody's going to be telling something about what's happening. But that's the issue that they're talking about now, is the idea that the Internet has so much, it's impossible to keep up with it all, which is why you're having a rise in younger generations and, like, overload and anxiety and stuff. They don't know how to filter, because there's too much to filter, and the information with technology is coming so much from the Internet. It's so much faster that before you can even build those filtering skills, something else is changing or different. So, like, there's no way to keep up with that, and you're seeing a difference of, like, I think, what was the statistics that I got from the APA for mental disorders, which include, like, anxiety, depression, autism, ADHD, and everything? It's one in five is the average right now. Ten years ago, it was, like, one in 25. So within the last ten years, we've seen, like, quadruple of a change, and a lot of that from research says it's because of the evolution of technology, that having all that information coming at you at one time is making it difficult to filter out the good and the bad, the positive and negative comments, and just the information that's out there in the world right now. Yes. I would say the same thing about, like, my streaming service. Like, I wanted to watch Happy Valley on the last season of Happy Valley on AMC. Oh, it's such a dark detective show. It's called Happy Valley. It's called Happy Valley, yes. I didn't see that coming. Yeah, so I had to, like, I had to get Bling to watch it. I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait for it to come on Acorn. So, um. What is Acorn? What's the second person I've heard mention this? It's like BBC America, but I think they maybe do ITV a little bit. Productions a little bit more. But it's basically British programming. Yes. Yes. I like myself in British programming. Yes. So I don't think you would be disappointed with it. Okay. Happy Valley. Oh, yeah. I have all these channels now, and if the news is available to me, if I click on CNN or MSNBC or ABC News or whatever it is, I'm going to be ten times more anxious. And my subscription is over in the next couple weeks. So maybe, like, it's almost like an addiction. Well, if it's there, I have to watch it. I have to know what's happening. I have to know that it's a thousand degrees everywhere right now, and things are catastrophic. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. And before I know it, I've taken so much in that it becomes a little bit unnerving. Well, yeah. Having everything available to you at all the time apparently makes people more desperate when something is not available. It's crazy. I remember when they started putting some new TV shows or series and everything in Disney Plus, everybody got mad because they said they were updating one chapter per week. Okay. And people were going crazy on it. I need to do this. Going crazy. Going crazy like, how am I going to wait one week? And I was waiting. Can we talk about the evolution of entitlement? And people are going desperate. Even my mom. I have this thing for some reason. I like the intro to TV shows. I like it. I like to see it. I like it. And I'm watching SWAT with my mom, and my mom skips the intro. And I'm around like, why did you do that? Don't do it. I like the intro. Can you skip it? And she's like, I don't have enough time for this. And I'm like, it's 15 seconds, mom. Why did you do that? Skip the intro. My gosh. And when I have the control and I skip it, she goes mad. And I'm like, it's just a couple seconds. Just let it be. I'm like, what's happening? So, like, having everything available apparently makes you more anxious if something is not. My anxious is not having the ability to have something. Like, Disney Plus. I have not opened Disney Plus in like, six months? But I cannot cancel it because I'm like, well, what if they come out with that one thing I want to watch? I have Peacock. I got really lucky for like, 99 cents a month for a year. And I only did it because I wanted to watch Vampire Academy. That's the only reason I got it. And then I finished it, and I was like, well, I'm not watching anything else on Peacock. I know it's only 99 cents a year, or a month. But I was like, that's still like, that $12 will buy me coffee for two months. But I can't cancel it. I can't do it. I was like, well, what if that thing comes up? So now I have like, eight streaming services just because I can't like, well, what if I want to watch that one thing? Yeah, I keep going back to Apple TV for the same reason. Oh, I don't have any Apple products. I just cancelled my subscription to Apple TV. Or is it Apple TV Plus? Wait, which one is Apple? Now I sound like the old person. No, I don't know. Neither one of us own an Apple product. I have a subscription service where they have Apple produced shows and movies. And every time I go ahead and I cancel my subscription, then a new show comes out that I want to watch. And it pulls me back in. I'm like, damn it. Here I am again. That's how I feel about the evolution of the book world is phenomenal, the way it works and everything now. It's really interesting. But now you have these things like subscription boxes that you can get for special edition books. But I think one of the most interesting things to me with the publishing with special editions is that Barnes & Noble, Waterstone, Books A Million, they're all coming out with their own special editions of the same book that has like, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-five, twenty-four, twenty-five, twenty-six, twenty-seven, twenty-eight, twenty-nine, twenty-eight, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-eight, twenty-nine, twenty-eight, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty-nine, twenty One chapter different, different artwork, an extra short story or something, and each edition from each of those stores are different. Because... Why do you have to do this to me? Why do you have to do this to me? That's awesome, I had no idea. So like for a collector, like for me, I love Sarah J. Maas, like her new book is coming out very soon, and it's the third book in her Crescent City series. And every single place has a different edition. And I, like, if I want them, they're pretty, I love them, which one do I get? I can't afford like five different ones. And a lot of the reasons that they're starting to do that is because they're having, there's such an evolution of Amazon, like with pricing and everything like that, that the publishers are forming up with these stores for revenue increases and everything. Because these special editions are $30 versus the $17 you may be paying through Amazon, and they're a huge price difference. So they're trying to marketing with like the graphic and visual marketing where these books look prettier, they're special. They have the word special in their advertising, and that like you're getting more to them. So like it's not as simple as like I wrote a book, I'm printing my book, here's my book. It's more of here's my book, like what artwork can we do with it? How can we do stenciled edges? Like do I need to find them? Like I don't know if you guys have heard about Fourth Wing, this new book. It's number one bestseller that's just completely blown up. It's from the publication Red Tower. It wasn't as being aired. Well, it's her first fantasy book too and everything. She writes romance, contemporary, and all and everything. This is her first like huge fantasy book series and everything. And what Red Tower did as their marketing strategy is that their first run print had black stenciled edges with white dragons on them. And they have another book, I think it's called Assistant to the Villain. They're only doing it in paperback, but it has red stenciling around it. And it's the idea, only the first edition is going to have them and the next reprints won't have them. Well, if you try to get a first edition, even unsigned copy of Fourth Wing right now, it's $800 to $700 minimum. Wow. Because the book is so popular and the way that they are doing the special editions with their first print runs and everything. It's the evolution of how they're marketing and sending books out. It's completely changing the price and value of like they're creating competition even among their supply and demand. Oh. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, I was joking with Paul where I was like, I hope our Fourth Wing edition that we bought for the library system, I would not be surprised if they start going missing because we have the first edition prints that have the stenciled edges. So like they may have stickers and stuff on them, but we take the stickers off and like they're still worth $200 to $300 per book. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's wild. So is that considered a positive evolution or is, do you feel like it's negative, like a negative something that Amazon introduced because they've taken over everything? I think it depends on your thought of Amazon. Like some people are like, hate Amazon, where other people, you got to go indie or anything. I'm a poor, broke college student. I support Amazon just because like I can afford the books that way. Like I can't do it, like I can't spend $30 to $40, $50 on one book. I understand why they're doing it because prices, paper shortages and everything, but it is a competitive market. So, yeah. It really depends a lot on a lot of what you said. Like she was telling what like everybody's doing. One part of me, like the client part of me, the person who wants the book is around like, man, that's horrible. And the person who has a studio, a little bit of a marketing, I was like, that was brilliant. Right. That was really smart. You can recognize those. Yeah. No, I'm so mad. Like as a client, I was like, I want them all. I'm like, but I can't have them all. So, I'll probably get the Barnes and Noble edition just because I have the other Barnes and Noble editions and the special LumaCrate editions. Is it mainly in illustrating that they're doing the variations or do they sometimes have like different endings or? It depends on the actual, like, I don't want to say brick and mortar. It depends on the brick and mortar that it has. There are a lot of UK companies called like LumaCrate and Fairyloot that they just do those boxes of these books. And they're going to have different covers. They're going to have different end pages. They're going to be signed by the author and there may be more art filtered through the book because they're creating their own product with the author and doing printing themselves and everything. Okay. Stories like Barnes and Noble on Books-A-Million and everything, they may have the same cover but like different stenciled edges and a different short story. Okay. So, like the book itself, like the content of the story doesn't change for them. What they're going to have is that extra length. Like you may have, Barnes and Noble may have the short story from like the guy's point of view and the Books-A-Million may have the girl's point of view. And like, well, if you want both short stories, you have to buy both books. And here, enter Ari. Brilliant. Brilliant. It's horrible but like as a person who think about this, they were really smart. They were really smart. Yeah. Well, that's why the library, I love it. Because I'll try to get the book from the library and like read the first two chapters of something before I make the decision of like, all right, I'm going to go out and buy like three copies of this thing or something. I want to know, am I going to like it? Is it going to be well done? But it's just the idea. It's not as simple as going to the bookstore and just picking up a book. You have to like, well, what does it look like? Like what's the content that it has? How are the end pages? And the UK just does it better. I'm just stating this now. The UK does everything better. Their cover, their artwork. No argument for that. The UK, like their book covers are my favorite. Because I hate people on my covers too. But they just do such a good job. They really do. But that's my like hobby of love is looking at the book world. So, that was my two cents. I learned something. They're a lot. It's a lot. Do you have a hobby or anything that you've seen changed over time? I used to do like swimming. When I was a kid, I wasn't up to... I remember three, but my mom says it was four. Four swimming teams. And I love it. I love it. It was great. And when I had to leave it, it hurt me a lot. And it was... That is one of the things that I don't think I evolved from that. But I think it went worse. Because there were like two reasons that I have to leave that sport. One of them, I think it makes sense. And the other one, I hate it. Until today's date, I hate that I did that. The first one was that nobody... We had nobody to get me to the practice. And it was like a long ride. It was like a one hour something ride. So, I couldn't go to the places. I couldn't go to the competitions and everything. And at some point, it was like, why are you doing this if you're not going to be able to come to the practice? And I was like, okay, if we are not able to get me there, then let's stop. And the other one, that is the one that I hate, one of my older cousins. She's around nine years of swimming. She's like fairly older than me. She's 27, let's say, right now. Fairly older. She's not old. She's 10 to 20 years old. She is someone I could look up to. She's someone I could look up to. She was saying that one day, in a family reunion, she was saying that she hates how a dress or something didn't fit her anymore. And everyone in my family is trying to kind of blame her because the sport of swimming gets like a bigger bag. Oh, water. Yeah, it gets you like really, really broad shoulders, so she could not fit in anything. And everybody starts saying that was like, you know, ugly and that doesn't look good in a girl and everything. And me being a kid, I was like, oh, I don't want that. And I left the team. And I hate it. To this day, I'm around like, I shouldn't have done that. There are two graphic novels that that story makes me think of. The first one is Frizzy. It's the idea that this young girl from middle, I would say middle grade, but high schoolers can relate to it too. She has really, really curly hair. And the standard of beauty in her family is to have straight hair. So her mom takes her to the salon once a week to straighten and take for her hair. But she's just like, well, I just want to be me. I don't care what my hair looks like. Like, I'll throw it up. I'll do anything. But all the judgment she gets from her family for having, like, whenever she gets her hair wet. Because she's like a tomboy and she wants to go and do things. And her mom yells at her, like, what do you think you were doing and everything? And her, because it's based on Latina, so they use tia and things like that. So she's like her tia, her aunt, is like the black sheep kind of of the family. And she has the curly hair and embraces it. And she's like, embrace who you are. And she's like, well, will you show me how you take care of your hair? Like, how do you do it? So, like, the aunt kind of, like, helps her, like, come into herself and, like, preps her to stand up with her mom and show her mom of, like, why it was so wrong for making those judgments based off of the way you look. And, like, get her mom to accept it. And it turns out the mom has curly hair. Many Latina families have curly hair and everybody straightens it. It, like, was all heartwarming. Like, it was a little rough to get through some of it. Just because, like, man, your parents are supposed to be the ones who, like, support you and believe in you and nurture you to, like, I can't imagine having such harsh judgment from your parents. Like, there's another book that does that called Starfish about this girl being overweight and her mom leaves her articles about losing weight around the house and everything like that. And, like, it's a beautiful book. Starfish is one of my favorites. I just grabbed it for a child for summer reading. It is one of my favorite books. It is on the, not summer reading list. Sunshine State. Yeah. Yeah. It's phenomenal. I highly, highly recommend it. The other graphic novel is there's actually, it's called Swim. It's legit about being on a swimming team, same age group and everything. But it's the idea of being scared of water and, like, what happens of, like, overcoming your fears and, like, being part of a team and, like, not running away from something just because other people judge you. It does deal with, like, the issues of race and everything like that. It talks about, like, what happens when you have to have your own swimming pool versus, like, sharing and community and everything like that. But both of those kind of deal with, like, the similar issues of, like, family judgment and, like, also, like, overcoming a fear, like, and how the sacrifices it takes to be a part of something. They're beautiful. I relate everything back to a book, but they're beautiful. Every time I talk to you, I have, like, at least three new books, so to read or something and you give such a good recommendation on everything. Thank you. I'm never going to stop doing that. I can't help it. It's looking great in here. If you haven't done Nimona yet, I highly recommend it. Oh, my God. I do like that. The evolution of TV, like, with Nimona, the new TV show that they did, it is so good. So how does the show compare to the book? There are some things that change, but they're not bad things. I loved it. Honestly, the times you were supposed to cry, you still cry. The same messages through, like, they definitely changed just a little bit of the story to be more, like, action-packed-y, things like that. But I don't know. I think it's just as good as a graphic novel, and that graphic novel is in my top ten graphic novels. Like, oh, it's so good. It's so, like, the art's done really well. Like, it has, like, that 3-D kind of feel, three-dimensional. It's just so good. It's so good. I was happy to get that one for the kids. I didn't read it myself, but I highly suggest it. Yeah. We'll have to go snatch it from her. Too soon. I don't have anything else to add unless you guys do. I don't know. Like, I saw their evolution of TV or something. There are things that have been changing of what movies we promote, like what movies, what I was seeing on TV. There's an evolution of taste of what people like to read or watch. It used to be everybody wanted happy, feel-good, but now the world is so dark, everybody wants dark horror. Yeah. Everyone wants happy, solid. No, seriously. I was looking at our stats the other day, and our horror stat for our horror books and things like that are higher than they have ever been before. I'm just like, and I had this, like, maybe 14, 15-year-old girl come in with her parents, and she's like, I want horror. Like, give me all the horror that you have. And I was like, okay, Mom, Dad, like, are we going YA horror? Like, how dark? Yeah. They're like, just go whatever they want. And I was like, okay. Bless them. Okay. But I'm not a horror fan myself, so that's why I think it's such like, blasphemy isn't the right word, but I'm just like, I know. Like, I don't like scary. It can keep you up at night. Yeah, I have enough trouble sleeping as it is, though. Yeah. I know. I don't know. But, yeah, like, everything is going to, like, a deeper level. Not only horror, but, like, people is not really conforming with you, perfect characters and happy endings right now. For example, like, I don't remember when was Encanto released. I don't remember. Encanto? Yeah. Oh, yeah. But when it came out, everybody was pointing out, it's literally the story of an imperfect family. That is the story. That is the story. Like, hey, we are pretending to be perfect and everything. We are going to give it to the world. We are perfect, we are perfect, we are perfect, and it's not. And it was a huge success. Yeah. People everywhere loved that movie. I'm telling you now we're ending this podcast on pressure. But continue. Continue. A little bit. But, wow, everybody loved that movie. People don't want perfect characters anymore. People are looking for something, like, they can relate a little bit more. They don't want, like, a horrible character, but they want something, someone that has faults and that sometimes makes, like, wrong decisions and everything. Well, I think the biggest reason for that is there's an evolution of what's accepted to talk about in society. Like, before, there's a phrase, like, you put everything under the carpet. We don't talk about that. Like, mental health stuff is not a thing. Like, having someone who's LGBTQ in the family, that's not a thing. Like, we just pretend it doesn't happen. But it's acceptable now. So I think there's been this evolution of where we're allowed to talk about these things now. They're socially acceptable. So now we can look for that representation in the things that we read and watch because it's, like, there's not going to be judgment or social capital being taken away because of it. Yeah. And with that, because we are out of time, we are going, if it does what it's supposed to. Yes. I'll stop it once we get to, like, the pressure part. That was on point. Okay. Thank you.

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