JAJ Episode 3 unedited

The podcast hosts introduce themselves and discuss how their week has been. They talk about music they've been listening to, including a new song by Don Toliver and the beef between Nicki Minaj and Megan Thee Stallion. They also express gratitude for the support they've received and discuss polls they've been doing on Instagram. The hosts mention two songs that were suggested by listeners. Overall, they are excited about the podcast and the community they are building. All righty, what is up guys? This is our third episode and I just want to introduce ourselves. We're going to introduce Craig first. What's up, buddy? My name is Joby. What's up, Craig? How you doing, Craig? Hi, I'm Adam. Craig. And I'm Jay. What's up, Craig? How you doing, Craig? Before we get to brass tacks, I want to ask, how you guys doing? How was your week? Adam, you go first. How was your week, man? It's been all right. Nothing too exciting. You caught me off guard. I didn't have time to think of an answer. Man, I haven't done anything. No, it was a good week. I mean, it's work. I mean, spend time with the family. We recently upgraded our Wi-Fi, so we're pretty happy right now. We're able to just do our daily stuff without yelling at each other to get off the Wi-Fi. So, life has been a little bit better lately. What about you, Joby? It's been pretty good. I've been just listening to a bunch of new music. Don Toliver dropped a new song. I forget what it's called, but I know it's really good and I've been listening to it a lot lately. The Bandit song? Yeah, the Bandit song. Dude, it's fucking good. I can't stop listening to it. It's amazing. And then all the shit that's been going on with... I know Jay doesn't want to talk about this, so I'll segue into it right now. But all the shit that's been going on with Nikki and Megan Thee Stallion. So, go ahead and hop on that, Jay. I was going to make the joke right now. Because it went from Joby to Adam, back to Joby. And I was going to make this SpongeBob joke right now. I saw something once. We didn't hear about his week, so I thought I'd ask him back and then he'd ask you. Yeah, what are we doing? Keju Highs and Lows are now? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Love you, Keju. How are you, Jay? I'm doing well. I'm doing great. I did want to talk about the Megan Thee Stallion and the... You didn't even talk about how you were. You just went right back into it. Yeah, I did. There's no time for it now. We're just going to keep rolling. We'll just roll through it. Okay. So, did you want me to talk about my week? Oh, my God. Just talk about yourself for your week, yeah. Okay, right. I do a lot of resting this week. I've been working hella and they cut my hours. Actually, don't include this in the podcast. Don't include me. No, no, no. I'll get fired. No, it's been pretty good. I've been working a lot and then a lot of people are asking for more hours, so they're asking to take my shifts and all that. So, I'm just like, you know what? Fuck it. I feel like I need a break. So, I'm just kind of relaxing, chillaxing, shooting some people outside of the school, you know, that type of shit. I've just been spending time with Marlene recently. Also, I know it was your lady's birthday recently, right, Jovi? Yes, it was. She hit the big 22. That's dope, that's dope, that's dope. What else did I do this week? I mean, I didn't really do much, honestly. I mean, I went to go see my dad last night. It was pretty cool. We went out to a bar. Both of you guys, on time, right? Yeah, it was cool. We went out to a bar and we were just talking. It was cool. Nice little catch up. Other than that, it's just been work, really, and that's about it. Just kind of getting the room together. You know, that way, hopefully soon, me and Adam can meet in the same room and we don't have to really worry about, you know, this kind of call anymore. And maybe, hopefully, a little bit of a teaser for the future, we can maybe start doing actual video recordings of ourselves. Oh my God, I almost threw up. I don't think they would have wanted to see that. No, we're not recording right now. We're not recording our faces right now, thank God. Anyways, getting back into the whole music stuff. Nicki Minaj and Megan Thee Stallion had some beef recently. There was a lot of random little disses that have been happening recently, especially over the fact that... Who did Megan Thee Stallion say shot her in the foot? Was it Tory Lanez? Tory Lanez, yep. Yeah, okay, okay. So, you have a lot of artists like Drake, 21 Savage, saying that that didn't happen. You know, especially in that album, Her Loss, there was a lot of disses towards Megan, which was kind of crazy. Then out of nowhere, Megan dropped Hiss, right? And he just kind of like, claps back at those people. But she then also clapped to Nicki. And it's kind of a crazy, crazy line, you know, talking about Megan's law. I'm sure everybody on TikTok has seen that already. Basically, the reference is that, you know, her family, I'm not going to say the word, I don't know if we'll not get approved for the video, but her family is a bunch of artists, if that makes sense. And yeah, I'm trying to make it like, you know, I'm not saying the actual word. Yeah. But definitely, like, you know, they're on a list. They're on a list of offenders. There you go. I think I think that's the best way to put it. But so Megan, Megan called it Megan's Law because it is like, that's the actual name of it. And so Nicki didn't take that lightly. And she released Big Foot. It was so ass. It was really funny to listen to. Me and Marlene were like up late at night. And I was like, Oh, I forgot she dropped this. I was listening to it. I don't know what the fuck Nicki was on. She was saying that this is going to be like, the diss of the century. Like, and like, all of a sudden, she started threatening like Megan's future kids and shit. And I was like, what the fuck is going on? Like, this isn't a proper diss track. If you want a proper diss track, look at Eminem's diss track against MGK. Anyways, other than that, we'd also like to thank everybody for the support on episodes one and two kind of like signaling away from the whole drama. It's been really awesome to kind of get feedback from people, whether it's family or friends or coworkers or anybody who's just kind of been following along. I don't know if you want to say anything about it, Joby. Oh, yeah, no, the support's been crazy. If I'm being honest, I was not thinking that we'd get like past 50 plays on Spotify. And to wake up the next morning and see that we got 85, I was like, oh, so we're doing something right then. Because the amount of support that we got was amazing from all of you. And I can't thank any of you guys enough. I know people listen to it on the way to work or when they're working out or when they're just, you know, chilling at home. I want to thank you for no matter what, even if you listen to it for five minutes or 30 seconds, I don't care. A play is a play and I'll take it honestly. It just shows that you're supporting us. And the more that we see the support, the more we're going to be wanting to hop back on here and do this. I mean, we just have so much fun and we love doing it for us, but also for you guys, because it's fun to know that, you know, we're starting a little community of our own of people that listen to music. And it's just such a fun thing to do. And I wouldn't want to do it with anyone else because the other two people were booked. No, I'm kidding, guys. I love you. All right. No, it's been huge. It's been really cool to see. Yeah. So whoever's been listening so far, thank you. Whoever's been reaching out and sharing with us directly that they have listened or that they plan on it. Thank you. I mean, it's cool to hear directly from somebody like, hey, I went out and I went out of my way. I listened to your stuff. Thank you. So it's cool. I appreciate it. I know Jay and Jovi, they've been sharing how excited they've been with people talking about it. So it's really exciting just to know that it's working, what we're going for. And then to segue into that more, I want to talk about the polls that we've been doing on Instagram. I don't think that we don't notice who's posting or like who's posting the replies or not. Like, obviously, we notice and we appreciate that because it shows us you guys are staying in the loop with us and everything. So I did want to kind of talk about, you know, like the songs that we've seen on there and we kind of want to stretch those out. So we're going to be doing that as of right now. So, Jay, go ahead and give the two people or the two songs you wanted to talk about and shout out. I definitely wanted to touch on Cam, the homie, the baby boy. He commented Rockstar by Post Malone. Honestly, one of a one of, if not the biggest hype song in Post Malone's career, because it kind of honestly, for me, like that was the first time I ever really heard him. And then 21 Savage also featuring on that song, too. There was a lot of remixes done for that song. I don't know if you guys have seen the video, the Vine, where they combine Rockstar with that one song by Nickelback. I'm going to get so much shit for that. But they combine it and they remix it together. And that guy is dancing with the green and pink glasses. He's doing like a little crazy dance and it's like a hard beat. It's so cool. It brings up so many memories, especially between me and Cam. So I thought that was awesome that he commented that. Another person I wanted to touch on was Matt. He commented somebody that I used to know. Everybody knows that this was one of those random songs where these two people came together to drop one song and they just left. So we're kind of wondering where they've been at. And they're just kind of writing off the hype of this song. It's still really good to this day. It's like it still tops off really well. So a big shout out to Matt and Cam. Really, really just didn't really made that one song, huh? Like they just made that banger and left, huh? That was really it, to be honest. Left this was like a song of the summer type shit. And they were like, all right, bye. Like they were gone. That's fucking crazy. But I'm going to hop into two songs of the two people that I would like to shout out. I'm going to shout out my boy Christian from San Francisco. I love you, buddy. He posted Doja Cat Say So as a song that he was like nostalgic of. And I mean, he's not wrong. That song was like everywhere on TikTok in 2020. Like on edits, on things about Doja Cat. Her Spotify was going crazy. Her numbers were going insane. Like that was her first year where I noticed her. And Say So was the first time I noticed like who she was like as an artist and stuff like that. And she only like continued to make bangers after that. But everywhere I went, Say So was always playing. Like on the radio, if I was at work, TikTok, Instagram. I mean, fuck you name it. It was everywhere. Shit was crazy. It could never get out of my head. And the day that I had to look at that and post it again, it's been stuck in my head ever since. So thanks for that, Christian. But I'm kidding. I love you. And the other song I wanted to talk about and shout out was Sunset Driver. And that was given to us by Shelby. It's by Michael Jackson. And I mean, you can't really top the goat. Michael Jackson is one of, if not the best at making pop music. I mean, I got to say he is the king of pop. And he's just been making bangers. Sad that he's not here because he's obviously RIP. But I mean, Sunset Driver is such a freaking great song. I mean, I love listening to it, especially in like car rides home. I mean, it's just something that cannot be skipped if you play it on a playlist. You know what I mean, Jay? Yeah, I get you. Shit is crazy. I mean, he's made so many good songs. Yeah. So Shelby, shout out to you for that by posting the goat. I love it. And I would love to see more from any of you guys that want to post on there. We try to do polls, you know, like once a week, twice a week. It really just depends on how much time that we have because, you know, we're all people with our own lives. But we'll do our best to get to every single one of you. And I mean, it's fun doing them. It's fun seeing the responses and seeing the support, obviously. But we'll go to Adam. Technical difficulties. I think Adam might have accidentally muted himself. I think you might have. You're right. Thank you. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Good calms, good calms. All right, we'll just cut all that. I know I've been having a lot of fun looking at people's responses just to see what they contribute to the certain idea. And with nostalgia, sorry to call you out, but my friend Jesus, he submitted what does the fox say? And it's funny to think of that as a nostalgic song, like thinking back, like, oh, yeah, that means something to me looking back on. But it really was just like a point in time where everyone kind of did get along and have fun with that song. I mean, I know the first time I heard it, I didn't know it was as goofy of a song. I just thought it was a popular song. I heard it in the background. Another person played it for me. I really paid attention to it. And I didn't realize that there were animals involved in different noises. It's just one of those songs that stands out. And it's really fun. I mean, you can't really argue that. I mean, I don't even think we know. Do you guys know what the fox says? I never found out. I never found it out. I thought he'd do it. Try to get that out of him. You're a jerk. It wasn't going to be hard. Another fun one was reared by magic submitted by Sydney. That one is really fun. But there's also that kind of cringe idea I get about it when I kind of remember everybody going around asking why you got to be so rude. It was funny one. It was so stupid. The song alone is really fun. I mean, you can't listen to it and not just kind of bob your head. It's just one of those songs you have to get along with. Even if it has got has that annoying little tendency to it. But we did get a lot of voice track. Very, very different song. So I appreciate everyone that commented. It's fun to look through them and see what they contribute to it. It's nice seeing everybody come together and just talking about music. And that's all we want to do on this channel. And just one last thank you for supporting us and making us feel heard. It's really cool to start a podcast off and have that much support. So just keep it going and we'll keep putting these episodes out for you guys. We love doing it. It's fun. It's basically just us talking to each other for an hour, an hour and ten minutes. Just being dumb and talking stupid basically. It's one of my favorite hobbies right now. So yeah, thank you guys. It's been fun. I was going to say going from the absolute high note of a topic. Let's go ahead and drop it down a little bit. And today we are going to be talking about some bad songs. And a lot of my coworkers probably know what I'm going to start talking about right now. But only because I went around and I asked them all like, hey, what's a sad song that you remember and put you through a hard time? I'm not going to name any names just in case you know it's personal. And they like to keep it private. But they did tell me a couple of them. And so I would like to shout them out once we get to it. But we'll get to that later on. I'm going to go ahead and talk about an artist that I personally got through a lot of really, really rough times with. The artist that I wanted to kind of shout out and go over was, his name is Lanny or Lonnie, depending on how you say it. I know me and Adam were having some confusion before the episode started. But I remember going through a part of life where I was kind of not doing so well on a lot of things. And I remember there's a lot of heartbreak going on, a lot of sad stuff going on. And the song that I wanted to kind of highlight overall was Thick and Thin. That one was one of the ones that I could listen to on repeat. And it was a sad time. It was one of those things that, it's not like you'll never forget it. But it is one of those moments that you kind of are going through something that's hella personal. And this song kind of highlighted that moment in my life, really. Overall, I think Lonnie or Lanny is a really good artist. And definitely go explore some of his other work as well. I highly recommend the album Malibu Nights, of course, because that one was crazy and amazingly, amazingly sad. But yeah, what artist did you want to highlight today, Adam? And then just a heads up, I did Google it real quick. It's Lanny, just so we both learn today. It's hard not to just jump to it. But I've mentioned before that Rex Orange County is one of my favorite artists. But I think it was more of his sad music that is what really drove me toward his stuff. One of my favorite songs that he's made is Untitled. Joey, Jay, I know you guys have heard that one already. Yeah, one of the more sad ones. But it just kind of acknowledges that kind of insecurity that you have. I mean, it can be didseco. Sorry. It can be interpreted in, geez, this is not fun. But you can interpret it in a way that it's towards someone specific, like say a loved one, like romantically. But of course, there's ways that you can kind of interpret it, like say just in personal life in general, he kind of talks about just not without blatantly saying it, but just being insecure and what it's like to kind of not have that perk of just being able to walk around confidently. I mean, it sounds funny the way I'm putting it. I actually don't like the way I put that. I'm going to reset that whole thing. That whole thing I did not like. I mean, go ahead. All right. So Rex Orange County, I've mentioned before that he's one of my favorite artists. But it was his sad music that really drove me toward what he's been doing. He's made a lot of really fun songs. He has a really nice upbeat side of him. But when it's not that, it really goes sad. I know Joey and Jay, they've both seen that side of Rex, and I know they've enjoyed it too, even though it is hard to listen to. But some of the stuff, it's just very personal. He addresses just having the insecurities and knowing that it's a little bit harder to have. How am I explaining this, guys? How do I do this? You're saying it pretty well. I don't know how to go into it. And then my mom's texting me too, her Wordle score. This isn't working right now. I really want to leave that in, just because of how funny it is. We'll leave it. We'll leave that part. Okay. Okay. I'm going to change that. Okay. I'm going to change that anyways. All right. So I've mentioned it before. Rex Orange County is my main artist that I follow. He has a pretty sad side of him with the music that he makes. He makes a lot of the upbeat, fun stuff. But there's a side of him where he's willing to go into how vulnerable and sad he can be at times. One of my favorites, it's not the same anymore. It kind of just talks about that feeling of going day by day, living tomorrow with uncertainty, because you don't really know what's going on. Sorry for that. I was nailing that. It just came out, and I know if I try to mute myself, it'll make noise. It's okay. It was beautiful. But he just talks about how it was. Like, back then, you used to have these feelings. You can associate something with a certain feeling, obviously, most of the time, happiness. But sometimes you can just lose that, and it makes day by day different. So you go into the next day, just not really knowing what to expect. And it can be tough sometimes. You can just be feeling out of it sometimes. I know I'm explaining this poorly, but there's some times where you just know you're not where you used to be. And it's hard. It's not something that you can just get out of quickly. It might be a rut that you're just stuck in, but him making a song about it and just kind of acknowledging that it happens. I mean, not to sound all sob story, but it has helped me through certain situations where he has that side of him where he's able to be real, and it lets me know. I'm sure plenty of other people know that it happens, and that's just the way life is sometimes. So that's just the way I interpreted his music. He's very willing to get into that dark side so that you're not alone. It sounded more sad than I wanted it to, but I just appreciate that side of his music. Jovi, what's one of the artists that you've wanted to point out? I know I did set my artist up. I'm going to go ahead and say this. I set my artist up for what I was going to say today, but it feels wrong if I don't mention this artist. I know Jay knows I have a strong connection to him, so it feels wrong if I don't mention him. I didn't want to, but I'm going to anyways. The artist I want to talk about is Juice WRLD. I had a very strong personal connection with his music going through high school and stuff like that. I mean, it was like the age of SoundCloud rappers where Juice WRLD was out, XXXTentacion was out, Ski Madstuff got out. All those artists were starting to come up, and Juice made very, I don't want to sound sad, but it is sad music. I know he obviously had his hype stuff, but his first album, Goodbye and Good Riddance, was more or less about a breakup and sad music. That's what kind of helped me get through a lot of breakups back in high school. I've had a few, I know. I'm not going to talk about that as much, but I don't know. It just helped me a lot. The way he talked about certain things and how much you can relate to it was one of the things I could really just get a grasp onto, especially when I was in a downward spiral or something. His music was just always there for me, and I always listened to it. There was never a day where I didn't have him playing in my cheap-ass Dollar Tree headphones. It was awesome. The main song that will always stick out to me is going to be I'm Still. Basically, just talking about, yeah, bad things happen, and breakups will happen, people come and go, but you still have to keep moving forward, and you've got to keep your chin up, keep your head up, basically. I think that's the best part about Juice. As an artist, he would talk about the negatives, but he would also talk about getting up and picking yourself up, and that was a positive as well with his music. He always spread positivity. I love the guy. I have sweatshirts and everything from the guy. I always wanted to go see him perform, but sadly, things happened. That's one of my main artists. I think he was my top artist on Spotify for four years, five years in a row. He had a crazy run. I think he's still in my top five, but other artists come into play. I was going to go ahead and talk about him. I didn't want to at first, but I felt wrong if I didn't say his name. We're going to segue back to Jay for another artist he wanted to talk about. Go ahead and hop on that, Jay. An artist I wanted to bring up, especially recently because I've gotten to become such a bigger fan of him, and because he released his album called Harry's House, everyone who is a Harry fan knows that this is Harry Styles who I'm going to be bringing up. He has a lot of very upbeat songs, kind of like how Adam was saying about Rex. He also has a good mixture of songs that kind of touch on some harder subjects and just life in general. Some of the songs I wanted to highlight were his most recent one in Harry's House called Matilda. The song talks about growing up and kind of dealing with a rough childhood. A lot of people say, how do I write this properly? Everybody has rough childhoods in their own way. I'm never going to discredit anybody on, oh, you had money, you didn't have a rough childhood, your parents were great, or your parents were shit, but you had good friends or you had good siblings, so your childhood was still great. I'm never going to do that to somebody, because it's one of those things that we're all human, we all have our own emotions, and we all go through our own things growing up. So Matilda is a song about Matilda. It kind of bases it on Matilda the little girl from the movie Matilda. I know I'm saying that a lot, but looking at it from your own perspective. You don't have to be a little girl. You can be a little boy growing up anywhere. I'm sorry, I just kind of blinked out right now. So your family could be, like in the song, he describes a scenario where a little girl is very clueless to her parents either arguing or saying bad things about her or yelling or even, if you can interpret it this way, cheating on one another. And Harry describes the song that like, as a child, you don't understand fully what that means yet. I mean, every child knows what love is and what anger can be. So most of the time, as children, we are growing up saying like, oh, mommy loves daddy. But then when mommy and daddy got a divorce, mommy doesn't like daddy anymore. So that made daddy angry. So it's like, as children, we don't know. But as we grow, we kind of figure it out. We went through something that no kid should ever go through, really. Harry talks about how Matilda basically goes through all this pain. And I'm sorry, let me reset that. Harry talks about Matilda and how she goes through all of this pain with her family. Even though supposedly they showed her love and they showed her support and care, but they didn't show it in the right places. And she basically knows that a piece of her is dead inside. That's one of the lines in the song. But she can't, you know, she can't let go of the fact that it's her family. But Harry is kind of like the fairy godmother of this song, where he's basically reassuring her that you don't have to be sorry for growing up in such a rough childhood. And you don't have to be sorry for not wanting to maybe see your parents. You don't have to be sorry for not wanting to see certain family members who didn't show you as much compassion on the emotional side rather than the physical side. You don't have to be ashamed for growing up and wanting to be on your own. You don't have to be ashamed for leaving mom and telling her that, you know, I have to do me now and I have to be my own person, and I don't want you along the ride with me because you damaged me emotionally. Or telling your dad that his emotions got the better of him and he wasn't emotionally there for you. Thinking that, and here's the thing, I'm not knocking on parents at all. I'm saying that, like, there are some scenarios where it does happen, you know. And I'm sure some parents have gone through that themselves, you know, with who I would call, like, my grandparents. Because obviously, I'm the generation, and then there's their generation, and then there's a generation above them, too. So they could have gone through the same thing and hid it very well. But I feel like as of recently, us as a generation, we've kind of grown into the idea that sensitivity is a good thing, and it very much makes us human, and it brings, like, a better connection between all of us where we can, like, view each other on the same level as, like, brother and sister in a way. You know, like, I can see somebody crying, and it's like, well, why are you crying? You know, like, what happened? Like, what's going on? You feel sympathy, you feel compassion. When before, I feel like it was, like, nut up or shut up, you know, like, grow a pair, or, like, be a man, or be a woman, you know, like, that type of thing. Like, I've always hated that kind of terminology. But I loved this song specifically from him. I'm sorry I talked so much about it, but it really is, like, an important song for people to listen to, and I highly recommend it. If you feel like you've gone through that type of thing, I know a lot of people have, but it's so beautiful, and I'm sure it'll make you cry. It made me tear up a lot. So yeah, I'm going to go ahead and pass it to Adam. All right. Thank you for your addition to your sad music. I appreciate you being willing to get personal about it. I mean, genuinely, I said it funny, but thank you. One of the artists I wanted to talk about was, and I mentioned him beforehand, but just to get more into him, his name is Boy With Duke. He has a lot of music where he is willing to go into that side of music. It's always nice to find artists who are willing to have that upbeat side of them, like, kind of just what we're talking about right now. It's cool just being able to look at these artists and see that they have their ups and downs, and they're willing to share both. So part of his downside was, initially, the whole idea about Boy With Duke was that he was anonymous. He wore a black mask with LED eyes, and that was his face for years as he started. It seemed like it could have been just a character idea, but more along as you listen to his music, you can tell that it's more of a being insecure and not being comfortable being able to be yourself while being able to try to be yourself while he's making music, sharing music. One song specifically is called Understand, and he's willing to share that. He knows that he's not who he needs to be or who somebody else might want him to be, but he's trying, and he's willing to make that attempt to be better while also, which is important, acknowledging those faults and not being able to immediately correct. It's going to take time. It's not just bad habits. It's also just, in general, not being able to trust people, not being able to be comfortable with somebody just because they're always going to have that wall of their own insecurity. So just being able to talk about it and sing about it and also have an upbeat sound while doing it, it's a pretty cool way to see that emotion or be able to hear about it and just kind of give more meaning to it. Besides that, he also has another one where it's called She Said No. Nothing too crazy, just kind of sounds like his love song. You'd think it's going to be one rich girl kind of talking about that, oh, everything's going to go well, but then he talks about just that blind side of all of a sudden there not being anything and just kind of saying, oh, everything's going well, this is this, this is that, we're all doing okay, and then she said no. Just kind of 180 on him, not really understanding and having to go through that and just the way he tells stories in his music and being able to share what could be personal stories or making it feel personal, I think that's a pretty big strong point in an artist and him being able to do that just kind of is probably a reason why I've stuck with him as long as I have. I know Jovi, I've shown him a few songs of his and I know Jovi, he'd probably agree. Just a lot of interesting music on his end, but I know Jovi, he might have another song artist for us too. Yeah, I don't, I mean, Boy With The Ease is amazing. I mean, I would show him to me all the time at work and all the TikToks he'd do. I agree with that and that guy is awesome. His mask is awesome too. I know he recently took it off and he's doing his own face now, which is pretty cool, I'm proud of him. He did. Yeah, I did. My freshman year in college, went through a rocky breakup and I also lost a few friends. I mean, shit happens out of high school. I lost a few friends and my uncle passed away. And during all this time, there was really just one artist I'd go back to a lot and it was Post Malone. I don't know why, but how calming his voice was at a time of just pure, I guess, anxiety and just how calming and soothing it could be to an 18-year-old kid, it just felt nice. Looking back at it, it was insane going through all of that around the same time, but I'm thankful I had music to kind of like help me kind of be my therapy, basically. A song by Post Malone that helped me get through a shit ton is called Feeling Whitney. It was very just calming and soothing. It's something that used to put me to sleep, especially when I would stay up just trying to think everything out, think everything that's been going on. And it was a rough time. It was, I'm not going to lie, it was not fun, but his music just helped me a lot. And then along with making me feel better and making me feel happier was just like his upbeat stuff was going on and stuff like that. So I always be thankful for him as an artist because the positive vibes he brings as an artist are amazing. But the way he can get down to earth and talk about things that are really serious, such as like addiction and stuff like that, it's really good to hear that sometimes you're not the only person going through that and that there's a way to get out of that and to be a better human being, basically. So, I mean, I don't think I'd be where I am today without his music, if I'm being completely honest. I mean, it totally changed me as a person today. He keeps making, you know, obviously great music. I mean, his last album, Austin, was great. But not to get too sad, but I'd like to say his music really just helped me out in a really dark time. And I don't think I'll ever be able to thank him for that, obviously. But I mean, it's just, I'm happy I had that music at that time in my life. But Jay, go ahead and hop on to your last artist. Somebody who I wanted to talk about is another artist who I know we mentioned a lot in the last episode about nostalgia. He obviously is Bruno Mars. Big, big artist when it comes to, you know, hip hop and kind of like soulful R&B. You know, he's not black. And I've seen a video on this on TikTok, which is kind of funny, where they're like, he knows he's not black. But like, he knows he's a guest in that kind of culture, you know, like, he doesn't steal their culture, he embraces it. And he kind of, you know, he knows when he's wrong, and he knows what to do and what not to do, which is cool. But getting into him, his songs as of recently have been more playful, you know, even if they are a little sad. His most recent sad song definitely was put on a smile in the evening with Silksonic album with Anderson . You know, talking about, you know, a little, sorry, I'm just kind of blanking out right now. Basically saying that he like, misses his significant other, and that he wants to keep the smile going, but it's so hard to do it. That's just his most recent one. But I know everyone would absolutely destroy me if I didn't mention talking to them. Because on Dwarfs and Hooligans for that song to come out, it was like the most heartbreaking song on that entire album. It definitely falls in line with another song that I do also want to talk about as well, talking to the moon. So a song, I mean, it's very similar to put on a smile, but in this one, it's just blatantly missing somebody. And his symbol, what's the word for it? Is it? I don't want to say symbology, because I don't think it's a real word. Symbolism. Symbolism, yeah. Okay. Restart, restart, restart. His symbolism in the song about missing somebody who everyone claims was never there, because like, literally the first thing was, one of the first things that he says is like, my neighbors think I'm crazy, but they don't understand. There's people who will try to comfort you and tell you that this person wasn't good enough for you, and that like, you know, you should just move on. But at night, when you're alone, literally at night, at night is when everybody kind of goes through their rough time. And I know everybody can kind of relate to that. Like, everyone knows like, the whole like, like, what's the terminology? 3am vibes, you know, like, there's, there's, there's certain times for certain things, you know, and whether you're going through a breakup, or you're going through missing somebody who has passed on, or you're, you know, you're just kind of going through it in general, like, work is hard, life is hard. I was about to do the feature now. You know, it's, it's like, you're kind of talking to yourself in a way while the moon is out, which is kind of like why you wrote the song, too. It's very beautiful. It's very like, it's very one of the, it's one of those songs that you can belt out in the car. It's one of those songs that you can play with your friends and still have a good time. You know, and but it also can remind you of a hard time. Another one I wanted to call out by Bruno Mars was It Will Rain. Definitely another heavy hitter song. It was played at the end of Twilight. I'm shouting it out because I actually finally watched the movies. And they're really good. And I understood why they played it at the end as well. You were crying, too? I was crying, too. But it was just, it's just one of those things where it's like, you can, like, like the song, the song talks about like, not being accepted by the parents. So you're never going to get a chance to, you know, you're never going to get a chance in general. And I know a lot of guys and a lot of girls have gone through that as well. You know, every boy has their mom that they, that a woman has to impress, or a girl has to impress. And every, every girl has her dad that us as guys that we have to get through to kind of like, you know, be on the good side. And like, you know, but it's like, a lot of people probably know what I'm talking about when I say that, like, you know, you can, you can do all you can, and they still won't accept you in a way, you know. And I'm not speaking personally, I'm being so serious when I do that. But just to kind of clarify, but I, like, that's what the song is about. And me being a person of, is the right word empathy, where I can kind of like feel what somebody's saying? Yeah. Being somebody who's like an empath in a way. Another way to put it. Yeah. Being somebody who's an empath in a way. Understanding some of these feelings, and that like, I'm sure it can be tough. Like, I'm sure I'm sure it's rough, kind of going through that emotion. Yeah, Bruno Mars definitely needs to be writing some songs like this again. So I'm going to break his jaw a little hard again. I'm just kidding. I love this man so much. But somebody please because his heartbreak songs are so good. I'm going to go ahead and pass it back over to Adam. Yeah, I don't necessarily have another artist lined up. But just a song I wanted to point out in general. I always enjoy when a sad song has more of like an upbeat vibe to it and just makes you kind of hides it almost kind of messes it. But there's a song by Bedside Kites called What's Up? No. He's being stupid. I'm sorry. I landed on the bed. I landed on the bed right now like to like, like, like, like sit right here and I felt a snap. The bed? Yeah. Oh no, it's that butt. I mean. I'm kidding. Just kidding. Just kidding. Glad you're okay, Jay. Okay. So where was I? He's muted now. Just sitting in it, whatever he just did. Okay. Go ahead and start from the top here. Okay, he's good there? I think so. We're all giggling behind the mic. All right, cool. Probably. All right. All right. Yeah, I always like it when a sad song is kind of masked in a way where it sounds like a more upbeat and more exciting song. But this one specifically, it's by Bedside Kites. It's called, sorry, I don't like the way I did that. It's called A Sad Song About A Girl I No Longer Know by Bedside Kites. Kind of a long title. But it has a fun beat to it. It makes it sound pretty nice. I mean, if you just heard it in the background, you probably wouldn't have thought much of it. But if you look into it, I mean, if I were to overanalyze and fully dive into it, it's about just kind of how vulnerable you are while you are in the relationship and how willing you are to make it work. I mean, just more being willing to be vulnerable to make it work. And he kind of just talks about all that he went through, how much they've gone through, and I thought everything was going well. I mean, there's a lot more to it in story-wise that you want to pay attention to, but you kind of... I'm sorry, guys. I read in the chat what's going on. I'm sorry, Adam. I think I'm going to start from the top. All right, go ahead. I'm just going to mute myself. No, you're good. I'm just trying to figure out how to phrase it or how to word it. All right. Well, one of the songs I... Well, I guess I'll open different. Okay, cut that. Instead of introducing an artist or just overall talk about how one person can kind of talk about how... See, I don't know how to phrase my words anymore. I don't even know how to talk anymore. Instead of mentioning another artist, I wanted to just kind of mention one song specifically that I like that kind of has that sad tone to it. It's by Bedside Kites. It's called A Sad Song About A Girl I No Longer Know. Just given the title, given the gist of the story, not to get all emotional and take it apart. But just about being willing to be vulnerable in order to make a relationship work and kind of over-exhausting the idea. It's a fun song. I mean, if you heard it in the background, you'd probably just be bobbing your head, not really realizing what it's about. But it's a pretty fun song. Looking at the lyrics and kind of looking into it is when it makes it sad. I mean, given the title, A Sad Song About A Girl I No Longer Know. How you can build this whole relationship, go through so much with somebody, and then in the end, looking down the line, almost like it didn't happen, just kind of say you can walk by them and not look at them and not react at all. So I mean, just kind of in general, that's what the song's about. I mean, there's a lot more meaning to it than I gave it. But for them to be willing or be able to hide it in such a fun and more exciting song, I like when they're willing to do that. I wish I were able to share more songs like that or find them more easily. But I like that kind of stuff. It's kind of when you don't really realize how much meaning is into it unless you really look into it. So I don't know if you guys have found songs like that or just in general music in that category. Make sure to send it to me because I want to find more stuff like that. I like when it's sad, but you don't know it. Yeah, I like that. I like those song choices. I was going to say that I like... It reminds me of that song that you had showed me, Adam, called... I think we talked about it in the first episode, Cheers. It's very upbeat, but also extremely sad. Once you actually read the lyrics. Something that I kind of wanted to... Don't we need to have Jovi talk about his last one? I was about to skip over it right now. Adam, do your thing and just call him out. I kind of forgot how I left off. Well, that's me, Jovi. What are you thinking? No, I don't like that. Well, that was me. Jovi, what else do you have to add to the sad category? The last artist I want to add to... Timmy Mac Miller. I know I had chosen a few... I think my whole lineup I chose for artists were all different, but... Timmy Mac Miller. I listened to him a lot back in high school. Obviously, I love rap and mainstream stuff. He was a part of that for a minute. I don't know, very upbeat. And it wasn't really sad music. It was just... I was sad, so I listened to that to make me get out of that. I'm not sure if that makes any sense. Yeah, it sounds like it works. The song that helped me a lot was The Spins. I was always playing that on loop, always listening to it. I listen to it to this day. I can sing that word for word, rap it bar for bar. But if we want to get into the sad stuff, obviously, that Mac Miller made... I know it's cliche, but I love the song so much. It's self-care. Throughout the years, I've gone through quite a bit. That song has a really impactful message to me. It's just taking care of yourself. That's what everybody needs to do, and that's what everybody should do. I went through... I won't obviously go into it that much, but... I went through a lot of stuff where I was drinking a lot or just doing stuff I shouldn't be doing. It was hard. It was rough. Life is not easy. They let you know that, but they let you know that a little too late. I was listening to self-care a lot and a lot of his music just to get me out of that funk that I was in. If I'm going into work and I'm having a bad day, it's on The Spins. It just puts me in a better mood. It's full of energy, ready to go for the day. Just something to get me going on a day where I'm not doing so hard, doing so great. I don't know. This is little pick-me-ups that I try to do and try to use just to get me going. I'm really thankful for his music because it'd be hard to go into work that sad, I guess. It's good to have those type of things, little things people use to help themselves get back off the floor. It's not that sad, but those two artists talked about worse. I wanted to ease it out with something not as terrible. Mac Miller was more of an upbeat artist for me that would help me get out of sad spots. Jay, I know you had something as an idea you wanted to talk about, so go ahead and go on to that. I'm so glad you talked about having the upbeat side. Same thing with Adam, mentioning the whole upbeat. Things that can actually get you through some stuff. Something that I wanted to touch on was the idea of... I'm sure you guys are going to be like, that makes sense, but a lot of people are going to be like, why the hell are you listening to that when you're feeling a certain way? What I'm trying to say is that some people actually think that if you listen to sad music all the time, you're sad. Or if you're listening to a sad song, you're sad in that moment. But where's the harm in listening to a sad song for fun? That's something I kind of wanted to talk about in a way. We've all played sad songs together in the car, sang them out without really feeling sad, just kind of laughing about it and having fun with it. And there are some solid songs that you can sing with your friends, just kind of chilling, or with your cousins, kind of chilling. I think Adam went on a date, by the way. You can chill and play sad music. And yeah, it might remind you, depending on the song, it might remind you of a time when you were sad, but you don't necessarily have to feel that way anymore. Listening to it, especially with a group of people who actually love you. I know one of my favorite songs to kind of belt out together. Joey, do you know what song I'm about to talk about right now? I'm scared. I don't know which one it is. There's a lot. Oh my God. You brought up Post Malone earlier, and it made me think of that whole idea of how he used to sing I Fall Apart on his Sony album, or even on the album Beer Bungs and Bentleys, how he used to sing Stay all the time in the car. I know we've done that a couple times too, Adam, with Matt, because it's a good song, but we're not necessarily sad. We're just kind of diving into a song that we actually enjoy. I get that. I mean, I'll be one to disagree with the argument or the saying that oh, if you listen to sad music all the time, you're sad, or if, I mean, why do you put this on? I don't necessarily agree with that. I mean, I listen to sad music a lot, I'm not going to lie, but I'm not sad. I just like the music that I listen to and that just happens to be sad. Like I'll listen to Rex Orange County, I'll put on some Post Malone, put on some Noah Kahan. Not that I'm sad, I just like being able to relate to something and then, you know, it's just something fun to sing along to. And like you were saying, like throwing a song on in the car and just singing it, it's fun to look back at. I wouldn't say fun, but it's good, healthy, to look back at how you were when this song first like came into your life and where you're at now, where you can sing that shit with your chest and be like, yeah, I'm over that, but like I'm still going to sing this song, obviously, because I'm like I'm happy I got over that hump or that rut that I was in. I think one of the songs that I'll always sing with like my full heart, my full chest, is Love by Keith and Cole. I mean that shit, I will try my best to hit those notes. I know damn well I won't, but I'm going to still try. I don't care how drunk I am, I'm going to hit those fucking notes. But it's just something I can sing with my chest. Like I used to listen to that song back when I was like super sad, fucking little 8th grade Jovi, tears in my nose, face and everything, deeper haircut, shit. Now I can look back and I'm like, damn, I've come a long way. I'm better than I was all those years ago, obviously. So it's fun to look back and sing those songs and sing it with your chest. Like Jay said, it's fun to sing those songs full of a room of people that love you and that want what's best for you and to see how far you've come. It's a great way to see your improvement as a person. Adam, what do you think about all that? I mean, yeah, I mean, if it's a sad song and you love it, I mean, you're just going to treat it like a regular song. I mean, it's probably more common that an emotional song like that is going to have a more distinctive or exciting sound to it, especially if they're putting in that emotion while they're singing. Sometimes the best songs are sad songs because of it. So I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong in it. I mean, I just think it's more worthy of singing in the car. It just kind of gives you more reason. If you have emotion behind it, oh, you're going to sing it even harder. I mean, I'm sure Jovi, he's singing all crazy in the car for like no reason. But he's got emotion behind it. Yeah, exactly. He's going to be willing to just sing it as if he were the artist. So it's nice being able to put yourself in their shoes and being able to sing, I mean, what you could have gone through. I mean, it just makes it more of a connection to whoever's listening or singing and the artist. Yeah, I agree. I mean, sad songs necessarily aren't like a bad thing. And I've come to notice that people think that like, why don't you put something happy on? Or why don't you put like this on? Why are you listening to this? It's like, I'm not sad. It's just what I feel like listening to. It's what I like listening to. It's not that I'm sad. And there's nothing terrible with that. I mean, shit, I mean, me and my buddy Taylor can go around singing secondhand serenade. And we could be the happiest people in the world, drunk as shit. But we're not sad. We just love listening to that band and listening to punk rock like that. It's so much fun. And same with Cameron, listening to all of MGK's sad shit. But we're not sad. We're just at work having fun. It's like, I don't know. It's fun when you can sing with people that, like Jay said, that you know that they love you. And I know I don't have much time, but I'm going to touch on it anyway because we're talking about sad music. Sad music and musicals, I fucking can belt my heart out to. I know Jay still can. Oh, my God, singing any of those songs by like Dear Evan Hansen or any from the Heights or Hamilton, it's so much fun just to belt out. I mean, me and Jay got a chance to just actually be a part of that within the Heights and, you know, belt that out live for people, and it was amazing. I mean, Jay, what do you feel about sad musical songs, huh? I mean, they're great. I mean, technically you don't really have to have musical songs that you can sing because if you go and watch a movie called La La Land, there's not a lot of songs that are sad. There's not a lot of songs that are sad on there, but Mia and Sebastian's theme, you can hear it. You can legitimately hear the song, and you can get both sides of the thing. Both sides of the movie. Sorry, Adam, if I'm going to spoil it for you. Julie wrote it up just to point out that I haven't seen it. It looks great. I'm sure it is. It's a really good movie, and it has such a good ending. I mean, it's a heartbreaking ending, but it's a good one. But you can touch on both sides of the subject. I think this song, Mia and Sebastian's theme, kind of perfectly represents like a song can be one specific thing, and you can take it as happy or sad. It depends on how you interpret it. But when Sebastian is playing that song for the first time, and Mia hears it, obviously there's a spark. There's love. There's joy. And it stems down this path for them to just go through all the motions of everything, and it just kind of reminds you, or you can hear it and feel romantic in a way. I know that when I play the song in the car with Marlene, it's very romantic. We're just kind of like there and enjoying each other's presence. And it's one of the songs that I definitely want to have in the wedding. But you can also take it as something sad, too, because it not only has a romantic tone, but it has a sad tone as well, especially going deeper into the movie. I'm sorry, I know this isn't a movie podcast, but just kind of breaking it down musically, because it is a musical. At the end of the movie, you can take it sad. It reminds them of a time when they were in love years later. No, years before, because the end of the movie is years later. But it reminds them of a time when they were in love, and when they were happy. It's almost like they made a mistake in the end. But everything's up for interpretation, and I guess that's a perfect representation of that whole situation. I think musicals are amazing, and I definitely want to touch on them more. Adam, do you have any musicals that you've heard that are sad? No. I wish I were, but I do love a good musical. I just don't necessarily go out of my way to listen to musicals. I mean, talking about you guys, like, say, In the Heights, the way I've heard you guys sing that before, and just being able to see you guys sing that and have that relationship with that song, one, because you guys performed it on stage, but then again, you guys did it together, which just makes it even better for you guys, so you guys are able to have that history with the song, so that's pretty cool that you guys have that. But regarding other musicals, I don't really have anything to share along those lines, but I mean, it's just listening to you guys talk about it, it's making me emotional. Yeah, I get it. One last thing I wanted to touch on before we do it, I know we've been going on for a long time, so if you're listening, my bad, but it was a whole La La Land thing. I was watching it, and I've grown up a bit since I've last seen it. It's symbolism for life and that everything doesn't end with closure. Friendships, relationships, anything, I mean, it doesn't always end with closure. Sometimes it just ends and that's it, and honestly, that's life. Sometimes you're not always able to get that last word in or that last goodbye or the last I love you in. It's sad, but it's life. I like the way that ended because it's very real, not a happy ending, but at the same time, it kind of is for them, but not for the audience, which I thought was cool. Because, I mean, shit like that happens, you know? And it's kind of like an unsaid goodbye. And that's how I'll look at it for as long as I can because that's how that movie was interpreted to me, was not being able to say goodbye to somebody and just having to let go and that's it, like no closure, there it is. All cards on the table, like nothing left. And that's how I'll always think of that movie. It's like what could have been, but all right, you got to keep moving. Life moves forward, you got to keep pushing. That's kind of how that movie ended for me. You can take a moment to be nostalgic about it, but then you got to get back up, dust yourself off, and keep moving. I didn't want to get all crazy right there. No, you explained it well. I think right here's a good spot to end it. It's time for episode four. I have no idea what the themes are going to be. We kind of just wing it. I'm pretty sure we'll get better at it as time goes on. That's what they told us, man. But any last words, you guys? I mean, I know this episode was rough to go through today, but I'm happy that we did it, because it's showing everyone that we're also just human, and we're just talking about life. Yeah. Some more of it? Yeah, one thing that I did want to kind of talk about was that I'm glad that we kind of touched on this episode. My voice fucking cracked so bad right now. I'm going to restart that. I'm glad that we did this episode, because it touches on a subject that a lot of people are very comfortable talking about, being sad. It's okay to be sad. It's okay to be depressed. It's okay to feel certain things. It's okay to be angry at people. It's okay to kind of go through that. I mean, us three, not getting too personal, but we have all been through that, and I know that for a fact. We all know each other on a personal level, and we've all gone through very, very dark things, very specifically hurtful experiences. Yeah. Just kind of want to let everybody know that you're not alone, and any friends that you have, they're there for you. The family who does show you the love and compassion that you look for, go to them. It's never the end of the world, and it's never too hard to keep going, because you can get up, and you can keep going, and you can keep pushing forward. And honestly, if you feel like you have nobody, listen to music, because music will help you out, honestly. Music helped me out, helped Jovi out, helped Adam out, and I'm sure it can help you guys out, too, from getting through tough times and going through tough times. And if you're going through one right now, I'm sorry, and I hope everything gets better, honestly. Thank you for that, Jay. I mean, all of us can speak from personal experience. We've been through shit. So like Jay said, don't feel like you're alone, because nine times out of ten, you're not. I've been there. I thought I was. But every time I've turned around, I've always had my guys behind me. And at this point, they're not even my friends. I consider them brothers and family. And I wouldn't be where I am today without them or without my beautiful wife. So don't think you're alone. I promise you, you're not. Because at the end of the day, you always have yourself, and that's honestly a great thing, because before you can love anybody, you've got to love yourself. That's what I kind of want to end it on. And Adam, if you have any last messages? Yeah, I mean, you guys already said it pretty well. I mean, it's just important to know there's always somebody. Somebody always cares. So if you guys need somebody, I'm here. Joey's here. Jay's here. But you guys can always talk to somebody. Jay Jay is here. Jay Jay is here. I thought you meant Jay specifically. Jay Jay is here. Copyright pending. Yeah, but shout-out to everybody who did give me some song suggestions. I will give them a little quick shout-out to the co-workers who did give me a little drops. Creep by Radiohead was one that they told me that we should listen to. Obviously, everybody knows that song. It's a great one. Wonderwall by Oasis is a beautiful song that you should listen to. The Climb by Miley Cyrus was also recommended to me, by the way. I know Joey's going to get a kick out of that. Right. But, yeah, thanks, everybody, for the support. Thank you for all the recommendations. Hopefully, this episode wasn't too sad for you all. I don't know if you guys wanted to say anything else. If you want to leave it on that note, I'm going to close it out. We can close it out. Don't worry. We'll be back to our regularly scheduled bullshit in the next episode. Yeah, definitely. I'm going to be making weird noises. Yeah, that's all. Right back to it. All righty. So, with that, I have been Joey. I've been Adam. I've been Joey. I've been Adam. I've been Joey. I've been Adam. I've been Joey. I've been Adam. I have been Joey. I've been Adam. And I've been Jaden. This has been JAJ. Thank you guys for listening, and thanks so much for the support. All right. Thank you, everybody.