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The speaker discusses various topics related to the Grainary protocol. They mention plans to explore building a larger market on Binance and discuss the upcoming Airdrop, which will allocate 1.5% of the total supply to participants. They also talk about the methodology for determining Airdrop recipients and mention plans to index the Harmony Network. The speaker talks about potential partnerships with ZK-Think and Mantle and mentions plans for 80-20 pools and one-click looping. They also discuss new features being developed for Granary V2, such as asset relationships and MEV capture. The team expresses their excitement about the progress and future plans for the protocol. They mention the importance of community feedback and their commitment to returning value to Grain holders. Everybody ask the question that you most want to ask here in the AMA questions. I think I already know what it is, but everyone ask the question that's on everyone's mind. The most important question that you have. All right, here we go. Three people are typing. Samson is one of them. Win incentives, and then I'm Adrian, coming through clutch with the win airdrop. Let's start with this. Oh man, I love you, Adrian. And then Don Pedro says win V2. And also win V2, which is more correct, honestly, because I think it is kind of winning. So, Samson, I will start off with win Binance incentives, because Samson got to it first. Yeah, you know, we're very kind of excited to hopefully start exploring building a larger market on Binance. Binance has a lot of users, so it makes sense that we try to gauge some interest there for the protocol. And Binance also has a lot of liquidity compared to other chains. So we're very happy to kind of at least begin our way over there. We're actively actually deployed on Binance. Very few may actually know that. It's actually live right now, so you can go check that out. In terms of in-grain incentives and buybacks, we're carefully kind of designing a plan of attack for the Binance network. So you can probably expect that within the next month, I'd say. And then the next question clearly, and this is gonna be the question on a lot of people's minds, is win Airdrop. It's been quite a long wait, which is annoying to some people, but we thank everyone for their patience. We're actually, we kind of hope to be ready to do the Airdrop in a couple weeks. We've kind of finished the groundwork necessary. So we're just kind of making sure everything is perfect, and then we're gonna roll it out. So that should be pretty exciting. Our goal is to pretty much try to decentralize the supply as much as possible, and that benefits the protocol the most when that goes to people who have been using the protocol. Let me see if I can actually find the figures, but we've decided to allocate 1.5% of the total supply to the Airdrop. It will likely be arbitrary, but there is a small possibility it will be on optimism as well. 8 million grain will be earmarks for borrowers and lenders during that initial Airdrop, and then 4 million grain will be earmarked proportionally to LGE participants. So everyone, not just early LGE participants, proportional to their USCC contribution. And both Airdrops will be claimable at the same time, essentially. So we'll account for that. If there was a user that borrowed on one network and also participated in the LGE, they'll get both Airdrops, and they'll be able to claim that. We're planning on doing that from grain.sales. So that's pretty much all the information we can give you guys right now. We're very excited. I just wanna talk about how the methodology for determining who gets an Airdrop for early protocol has changed and why that's caused at least some delay. Right, yes. That's actually very important. So previously, we kinda decided, so for the Borrow and Supply, the Deposit and Borrow Airdrop that was the main Airdrop, we've kinda shifted away from doing snapshots. So we were initially going to do snapshots, and these snapshots were taken every roughly two weeks. But it's a very poor representation of who was actually lending, because it's imperfect, especially at those intervals. So we've, essentially what I've written is a script to go through protocol events, so Borrow, Repay, Deposit, and Withdraw events, and to essentially model user positions over time, proportional shares to the user. And so what this essentially means, instead of doing a snapshot maybe every two weeks, we're increasing the snapshot to such a high frequency where we're taking pretty much a snapshot effectively every couple of minutes, programmatically. That's kind of maybe the most easy way to describe it. So what that means is it will be much more fair, because the model will be much more accurate too, and time-weighted based on the actual positions that people had. We're also very proud of that too, because it's quite difficult programmatically to achieve. And a lot of projects just go with simple snapshots, but snapshots are not necessarily always the fairest methodology, as someone could maybe deposit right before a snapshot or withdraw right before a snapshot and miss it, even if they had a two-week long position, which would really be unfortunate. So that's kind of the reason. Yeah, thank you, Guber, for bringing that up. Of course. Yeah, I think it's really important to highlight how much fairer and accurate this will be than prior methodologies of determining who gets an airdrop, and it is also a little more time-intensive. Yeah, it's a really good method of making sure that everyone is considered, regardless of the length that you use the platform for, but it's gonna scale that against the length and time and volume that you're actually using the platform with, which should make a lot more sense for everyone. I'm sorry to interrupt. I forgot to say something. We kind of took consensus internally, and something that we also wanted to state is that we're actually going to index the Harmony Network as well. So people who were with us early on and deposited and borrowed on Harmony will also be included in this airdrop too. Absolutely, and that should affect a lot of our longest supporters. So appreciate you guys if you'll listen to this. Also, ZK Think Grainary, yay or nay? I'll say maybe. We have some contacts over there, and we've been speaking to some other DeFi platforms that have been very interested in ZK Think and already have a grant arranged with ZK Think. And we've been discussing how to maybe combine forces over on ZK Think. And there's nothing really to announce yet. There's nothing to really even tease. It's just, yes, we're very aware of ZK Think, and we are following up on all available avenues. What about Mantle? We're in discussions with Mantle. Mantle is good. Any single staking or 80-20 available or coming soon? Menace, I'm gonna defer to you a little bit on this. I know that we're still working out the legalities of how everything's gonna work with that new system that we can't talk about, whether it's gonna be 80-20, whether it's gonna be single staking, whether it's gonna be whatever. I would say that that depends on council. And so we're trying to make sure that everything is decentralized. We're trying to make sure that everything is compliant. We're trying to make sure that everything works as it's supposed to work, while also staying within the boundaries of what we need to stay within in order to be able to serve everyone for a very, very long period of time and maintain legality through all of that. I actually have a kind of cool update on that actually too. For the 80-20, also kind of referred to as whole grain, we're looking at solutions to incentivize that within the next month. So that should be really exciting. We will eventually, and we're primarily looking on doing that on Arbitrum right now, but we might also do that on Optimism. So we'll see. And we eventually plan to do it everywhere. This is something that's very good because the nice thing about Grainery as a Protocol is that we can use bought back grain to fund liquidity. We can put that towards emissions for these 80-20 pools on Balancer and Beethoven. Samson is asking, and I don't know why Samson would ask this. It's not like he has a vested interest in Reliquary or anything. But he asks, also still planning on doing Reliquary for 80-20 emissions? Yes, a form of Reliquary. We have some kind of developments that I don't know if we can speak on just yet, but eventually we will integrate Reliquary ourselves in a comparable fashion to Beethoven. And you'll be able to stake your 80-20 BPTs. The more that they mature, the more incentives you'll be receiving. Is the team happy with the current growth of Grainery and its engineering goals, and how are spirits? I honestly am like really stoked on everything that's going on. Specifically the unannounced thing that I can't talk about, I think that's a game changer. I think that's like, that's literally what all of my grain is going to go towards. I am fully bought in on that whole plan. And I'll talk about something else later as a separate note. But my spirits are high. Menace, and Guber, how are you guys feeling? Myself and other engineers are working hard on hacking apart the AVE V2 underlying to add in all the new features we want. When I talk about AVE V2 to others, I kind of liken it to like a beautiful Swiss watch in that like everything is perfectly placed. There's a lot of thought that went into the engineering of it. So it's a very tightly knit system that we're kind of hacking apart. And it's very fun. Everyone's very excited and in a good mood. We've made a lot of progress towards implementing some cool features that kind of create new lending opportunities that don't really exist in any other market. Things that Euler implemented, things that AVE V3 implemented. These are things that we looked at and are trying to replicate and make even better and more usable like e-mode or the isolated lending. So it's been really exciting. It's been very fun. It's been really cool to work on such a nicely written contract. I don't know how much I should talk like feature-wise. I don't think we're supposed to just like give away everything, but... You can leak a little bit. I mean, like all 31 of these people like showed up to this, are showing support during a time period where like a lot of people are kind of frustrated. So I appreciate all their presences. So I would say if you want to talk about some features that you're specifically excited about, I don't think Minus would have a problem with that. I don't think Minus would have a problem with that. Not at all. Okay. So development is actually slightly split. So we're working on the same problems, but we've created basically two versions of Granary. One is for L2s and gas efficient, gas cheap networks. Whereas the other is for Ethereum. Obviously Ethereum is really important. It's where the most money is. So getting the most money on Ethereum is obviously optimal, but we also want to create the most feature rich lending protocol in land. And the place to do that on is L2s where state and things like that can be saved cheaper and it's less expensive. One thing that we've been working hard on is basically what I call a relationship. So assets can have relationships with each other. So for example, E-mode in Aave v3, if you're familiar with that, is would be considered a relationship between stable coins where the LTVs on liquidation thresholds are set really high. So you're able to basically get 97% of your value back if you're borrowing USDC against Dai, which is really great because these assets are highly correlated, they're stable. There's no reason we should be treating it the same as a borrow against ETH. Speaking of ETH, another relationship that I had in mind was like borrowing ETH against wrapped state ETH. So Compound v3 does this where they have markets where you can basically really efficiently borrow ETH against wrapped state ETH because they are again correlated. Wrapped state ETH grows in interest against ETH so we should have higher liquidation thresholds, higher LTVs and basically creating these relationships between assets that most people are doing. There's really only three types of borrows people do. It's either borrowing from a correlated asset to another correlated asset or taking a volatile asset and using that as collateral and then borrowing money like stable coins against it. And then very rarely people open longs or shorts using lending markets. And so those first two things are things that we think are really healthy for the protocol and we should be incentivizing. And in doing so, we can use some of the new features of Granary v2 to unlock more value for people who are actually using the platform. And increasing borrows for the platform is how we earn money, how we buy back grain and how we get the price to go up. So I think it would make everyone happy if people can borrow more. Of course, within reason, we don't want our markets to be illiquid. I would say the new isolated LTV that Granary is developing at the moment is kind of groundbreaking. And so we're very eager to show you guys that in more detail. Something I'm also very excited about is our MEV capture, which is essentially to maintain the health of the Granary protocol, we need to liquidate unhealthy loans. And so that does fall in with the LTV and liquidation threshold. But to have the ability to keep that value in the ecosystem is imperative. Typically, in current lending markets, they issue a liquidation bonus, which is a, it's necessary, but it's also in very volatile markets, it can take away a lot of the TVL or a lot of the value out of the protocol. Because when the protocol is paying liquidation bonuses, the unhealthy position just pretty much leaves the protocol. And so to change that, and I don't know how much we can really talk about it yet, but we're working with a protocol that's pretty well known in DeFi. And we've found a way to encourage liquidators to contribute that liquidation bonus back to the protocol. So we're very happy about that. That's something that we wanna write more about shortly, so keep an eye out for that. I'd say, what else do we believe? I think there's also like something that will probably not necessarily come out of V2, but will also be available in V2 is that we're wanting to add one-click looping pretty soon here. We've deployed the contracts to actually enable that so users can begin using it, but we have to, we've been testing it to make sure that it's safe. So you guys can expect that soon as well. Do we have any more questions in the chat? Not currently, but let's go ahead and encourage that. If you have any other questions or if you've gotten here late or anything, go ahead and do that. I saw that someone had asked, he was wondering if the 8 million grain that was supposed to be dropped to the LGE participants is still a thing. And the answer to that is yes. We just said earlier it will be done at the same time as the regular usage of grain rate airdrop. I don't remember exactly how many grain it is. I usually think in terms of like percentage of supply. Yeah, so it will be, I believe it, I just read the numbers, but it will be 8 million grain to borrowers and lenders and then 4 million grain to LGE participants. And that will be distributed proportional to size. Then the next, I guess there's no more direct questions. Let me go to the AMA stage just to make sure. Yeah, bonus to people who never sold. So now LXD, there's a lot of discussion around this for myself. It's something that I kind of scream at the wall about sometimes. And then I remember to not ask Menas about it because Menas is doing important things, right? But I want to start addressing some of those other tertiary things like the LP providers that I still think are not made whole, obviously. The people who never sold, people who have long-term commitment, whatever. LGE participants in general. I don't know if anyone pays attention to my activity on Twitter. If you don't, I would definitely do so because there's alpha that occasionally gets dropped for granary whenever I'm in spaces. And I'm like talking to people about things that I need for stuff. People might be certain crowds that I'm hanging out with currently that maybe we're working on some stuff with, with an artist that's a friend of mine or whatever, right? On a specific, like very, very old cryptographically secured network that's extremely decentralized, more so than ETH. And maybe some things like that that are made specifically to reward people that have been here and that have not sold or have not sold all their bag or whatever, like, or the people who've accumulated during the time period. Like, who knows? It's, there's a lot of different ways to reward people, loyalty. And I think that we plan on getting into that once we can breathe a little bit, once the airdrops have been done, once the first unlock has happened. And we're gonna make sure to build a protocol that you can all be proud of. And I think that that's something that Vinicius and I talked about recently. We kind of went too far in the direction of not being communicative just because everyone was, was, you know, mad we didn't want to come to you without big news, important news. And I think we're gonna reverse direction on that a little bit, start talking to you guys more and showing you a little bit about what we're working on more gradually over time. And we'd love to invite everyone into that. So, and maybe inviting everyone into it in a more official way. Minus, let me ask you a question, all right? Cause like, you know, you know what I, what I actually do in the background here now, what's, what is my primary goal, right? What do you think about launching deployments of Grainery on other networks like ZK Sink or Scroll or Mantle or Java or Gatki Chain or wherever? We keep our eyes out for that type of stuff. You know, we've seen OPB and B or like the optimistic Binance rollup, which is really cool. You know, since we're also running liquidation bots in house we don't really have an infrastructure necessity for the graph, so pretty much all we need at this point to deploy is a set of Chainlink oracles, which is really exciting. So that gives us a lot of flexibility in that regard. So what we're really excited for and what I'm really excited for is Base. I'm not sure if you guys have heard about that, but that's essentially Coinbase's main L2. It's main net is not live yet, but you know, you can probably count on us being live probably like the day of, because we're just so hyped about it. Kind of relating to Coinbase, we're also very enthusiastic to kind of step up our LSD game. We're currently working on several contracts right now, but we're looking at adding, you know, RAPStake ETH to more of our deployments, RocketPool ETH to more of our deployments, as well as Coinbase Stake ETH to our deployments. We're a big fan of LSDs, Liquid Staking Derivatives. We think it's a good way for people to remain exposed to ETH as well as, you know, market arbitrage. So, yeah. Another thing that I would say about that, about the other networks is that if we go to those other networks, using Grain as an incentive token doesn't exactly make sense. We already have like seven chains that we're on and like we're going to be doing very well to emit on those. And so I would say, look forward to a new way to return value to Grain holders because you guys own the platform. That's how it works, right? You guys own that. And how would we return value to you by like setting up these other things? And that's a really good question. That's the thing that we're in like the legal discussions about and we need to be very, very cautious with. So I can't super speculate on that. I've got a lot of plans. Beavis came up with some good stuff. I'm really excited about it. It's the most I've been about a tokenomics system in forever, I think. So I'm very confident. I'm not selling a single grain because I think that over time that grain will be put to work for me. Is that safe to say? I think that's just a personal opinion, right? I mean, 100% of fees will probably consistently be committed towards buybacks anyways. Yep. The more networks you launch on anyways. But something I wanted to actually say is, we're really kind of wanting feedback, especially at this point, about what people want. We're very confident in the direction we're heading with isolated LTVs among other features. Our goal as a protocol is to encourage as much borrows as possible so that we can have larger buybacks. And that value goes back to our users. So whether it be through protocol emissions or 80-20 staking emissions, that our goal is to always route 100% of our protocol fees towards that. And so please, if you have an idea or if you have a concern, please, we have a channel in our community section for this, but please write a suggestion. I wake up and I actually read the Discord every day. So if you have a question or if you have a suggestion, please don't hesitate to post. Yep, absolutely. We have to definitely create a more welcoming community for people to come in here and actually check it and be in here every day. And so I'm really excited about that. One thing I'd like to add about that is that Sunfire is going to be joining us as the official CM, but it's not really official because it's just he's part of the community, right? So looking at possibly throwing some grain his way so that he's bought in for life for the platform and very excited to announce that today. We love Sunfire. You've seen him in chat. He keeps this place together. He's responsible for most of the organization and restructuring, especially recently. It's been kind of a passing need. Discord and security in general has, you know, we've seen dozens of different DeFi discords get exploited. So we're really happy to have Sunfire on board as well as our other moderators like Yamamu. We love you too, Yamamu. Thank you. I think currently the ranks go Sunfire and then Yamamu and Sirloa, SirRugless on average. And maybe we'll be looking throughout the community for people that are being helpful and friendly and just representing us well. And those will be the next steps. Yeah, I also wanted to kind of encourage anyone here to go check out the Dune dashboard once again. I just posted it in the AMA chat, but that was written and programmed by our quantitative analysis lead, Tully. And a lot of the work we've been doing, and I maybe also want to kind of discuss this in a minute too regarding our emissions. Definitely go check out this dashboard on Dune. It gives you a lot of insightful information about how the granary protocol is growing, kind of all the work that we've done thus far. I'd also encourage you to actually go to the documentation as well. I'm going to link that here. We, as a protocol, we display our reserve factor, our liquidation bonus, our LTV, our liquidation threshold. We display it all. That's not something that many other protocols are comfortable for doing. Please go actually check it out. And if you have any questions, reach out. I kind of want to discuss for a couple of minutes before we wrap this up and take any final questions. You know, we've been working really hard with quantitative analysis and kind of analyzing certain metrics that we have, especially pertaining to emissions. We've kind of taken a very empirical approach to emissions. You know, we're actively looking at what competitors offer. We always try to compete with it, but we also adjust based on if it's efficient for the protocol. So if we are not earning as much or as many fees as we need for a given reserve, and we're like there's this metric which is essentially fees over emissions in dollar value, and that gives us the efficiency. It's actually pretty neat because it allows us to gauge how effective emissions are, because ideally we put 100% of the fees towards buybacks, and we use that in our emissions. So we're seeing how efficient we can be with that. And so these past couple of months, and you've probably noticed, we've kind of changed things around, and we're getting much closer to like a much more optimized emissions system, and that's largely thanks to Tully, who also created that new dashboard, which you can go see. The kind of rationale behind putting a lot of effort into determining emissions is because we do not want to overpay for liquidity, but we also want to remain competitive. In a nutshell, we don't want to over-emit grain token for temporary means, if that makes sense. We've also been doing a lot of looking into our interest rate strategies recently. So that's also a big kind of priority for us and the quantitative analysis team. So we just had a really good question in the AMA questions from Adrian again. I wish Adrian's been killing it today. He's asking, I mean, that's what, you know, protocol fees going into the buybacks are currently, but there's more to come on all that later. And then the other part is, is the total circulating supply in DUNE inclusive or exclusive of the upcoming sale on LOX? That would be exclusive of that, because it's not circulating, right? Well, it actually would be inclusive. So that grain is sitting in a contract, so it's actually accounted for in the total supply. It's in the supply, okay. Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, I hope that answers your question, Mr. Adrian. Wow, that's better than I thought, dude. Damn, awesome. That's cool. Samson, do you have any other questions? You've been kind of killing it with the leading questions today. Great job. Shout out to the marketing and biz dev department. Steps has asked, any plans on bringing staked FRAX ETH to Grainary? You know, we've been following FRAX for quite a bit. You know, we've actually, they were one of the earlier stable coins we've considered. They're kind of considered as very like risk safe, especially as an organization. So, you know, we've definitely been keeping an eye on them. And their new LSD is actually quite desirable. So, sorry, what was that? I was saying Sam from FRAX, he's a beast. He is. Or he is. He's got it down. So we definitely want that. Yeah, we're fans. Gab the Crab asked is, what do we think about integrating Polygon ZK EVM, I presume? Like we've said, we are definitely considering launching on a lot of these newer networks. We're just waiting for the necessary infrastructure to make sure that it would be safe. Ah-Ah says, what is your concern for the multi-swap bridge? I'm assuming you're talking about like multi-chain bridge. They're kind of experiencing a slight degradation of service for the most part. We've received confirmation that normal operations will continue. However, certain things on their backend are very slow or just permanently pending, like administrative type things. So it is concerning for us. And we like to be as risk-off as possible. But at a certain point, it's like, it's not really up to us to tell you what to do. And I do think that for the big assets like USDC, Bridged East on networks where multi-chains, Bridged assets are the default versions of those. They are pretty secure and safe. The reserves I did a audit on before we reopened back like a month ago. And I was able to account for all USDC that was on Phantom or at least in their system. So I do think they're pretty safe. But we will try and move a lot of different, like at least the grain token to a different bridge provider that does not have a CEO in jail. I think it's a little hard to centralize. I think the direct question was more about grain. Because I know that we've had some people with some very long pending transfers. Now they've all went through eventually, but yeah, we've had to overhaul our system eventually, but yeah, we've had to address the multi-chain team directly a few times about that. So we're on top of it. And if anyone ever has any issues, you have something pending over a day, come to us, message, or even just tag us in chat or whatever. And we'll be glad to take that to multi-chain on your behalf and help you guys out with that. Yeah, ideally we would like to have the Squid router, which I don't know if you've had the pleasure of using it. I think their UI is really nice. I think they're a really great service. I really like their decentralized tech. However, they are a little bit slower than multi-chain. So everything has different trade-offs, but I definitely am a fan of them and it's definitely an option for- I think Squid and Grainery are talking according to Samson, so that's looking good. Axelar is friends of ours, Synapse, friends of mine, a few other things. So a lot of options and just we wanna make sure that we go into everything slowly and securely, that's it. Yeah, Axelar has been talking to us for a long time. They've pitched us their tech many times and we definitely have a good relationship with them. But they are not as instant because they are more decentralized. So it's like a big trade-off there. I really like Synapse personally, but I also don't like to feed sometimes. So who's to say? I think most people are just used to kind of the instant or relatively quick multi-chain transfers. It's definitely not a bad thing. Obviously, the important thing is that it goes through, but it does feel weird when you're just out money for a period of time. It's a little uncomfortable. It's like it goes away for a little bit just to visit someone else and then comes back to you. Right. Ghost of Harvard says, IDK if it was asked, but do you plan a UI redesign? Yes. And maybe we can do some teasers of that soon. I actually would have preferred to have done that teaser before Unlock, but who knows? We're doing a complete redesign and we have a very talented front-end developer behind it. So we're actually incredibly excited for that. The current front-end was a fork of the current repo for Aave V2 UI. We are creating it from scratch, which will be a million times better. The Aave V2 UI repo is a mess. So we are very eager to do the redesign because that will allow us much more flexibility to add features, small quality of life ads, et cetera. We actually have a pretty cool rebranding on its way. And I think everyone's gonna kind of like the new logo. We can't share it just yet. Yeah, I actually, I'm a huge fan of the new logo. Like I'm so bullish on it. I love it. I think it represents security, education, and all of these other things all at once in like a really professional way. And I'm just so stoked on it. And then I think that's about it for the serious questions. I don't know, Goober, anything else that you wanna talk about? Yeah, there was some discussion about layer zero, which I think is really good. I have seen them have some issues with reliability, but that was only one and it was just for like a day. And it was months ago, but I think they do some weird gas calculations that cost a lot of money when you try and bridge with them. Granary development, I'm really excited for. Should we mention like when our audit is scheduled and kind of say that like that? Yeah, so I can definitely speak to that. I don't think it'd be wise to kind of say the name of the firm that we've signed up with, but just for those things. I thought you'd known about it in the past. We have, but we've signed an agreement. And so it is the top auditing firm and we're very excited for that. Something we're also going to do is the Code Arena challenge audit. So I would actually stay tuned for that because a lot of people maybe in here could also participate in that. We have actually scheduled it for late October. We're gonna have a beta hopefully open before then. We're pretty happy about the timeline. Things seem to move pretty fast. Yeah, so development will continue through October. We've been moving at a pretty rapid pace moving through our roadmap, but because these are some serious changes to the underlying lending protocol itself, we want the best guys in the business to take a look at it. We're really excited about that. And yeah, no more CertiCaudits. Only the big boys now. You know, technically it's CertiK. Is that really what it is, CertiK? Like they literally corrected me in person at an event one time. They must have been messing with you. I was like, what, they have to be, right? Like there's no way. CertiC, there's some really nice people over at Certi. Anyway, I think that was about it. I think we got all the hits. Hopefully you as a community, and I think that Sunfire was recording this whole thing, otherwise he's fired. Hopefully we can shift the conversation towards a little bit more of a hopeful tone, because we're hopeful. And I hope that that's contagious to everyone else. Because I'm excited. Minas, how are you feeling? I'm pumped. I want to kind of close this with a couple of words. I want to encourage everyone here to, if they have any concerns or ideas, please, seriously, you know, we want your feedback. We want to hear from you. At the end of the day, this is a community-centered protocol. We care what you think, so please go actually write and chat. Like I said, it's the first thing I do in the morning. We're listening, and we're ready to hopefully incorporate any advice that we can. We're ready to hopefully incorporate any advice that we can get from our community. Well, with that, I appreciate everyone for coming. I'm going to go ahead and shut down the stage. Peace out, everyone. Have a good day.
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