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Hello everybody, sorry about that technological difficulty that I just incurred, but now that we're back, welcome to Serial Slayers, I am your host Brandon and I want to thank you for tuning in. So tonight we're going to talk about, I've already kind of touched basis on female serial killers, but, and again, for those of you who can't view the podcast, up above me I have a picture of a lady by the name of Arlene Wuornos, or Eileen, she goes by Lee, went by Lee, excuse me. She was the basis of the movie Monster with Charlize Theron, which before that movie I didn't really know who Charlize Theron was. After I saw that movie, I could not look at Charlize Theron the same way, like, ever again. It was traumatizing. But I wanted to talk about her, because actually I recently watched a movie about her, it's a newer movie that just came out, and it's called American Boogie Woman. You know, because they have the boogie man, so now you have the boogie woman. So, some backstory to Lee, as we will refer to her as. She was born February of 1956. She did die by a lethal injection in October 2002. So the movie Monster really talks about how she came to be a female serial killer, who she was as a female serial killer, and the monster that she really was becoming, or became. If you look up here in the corner, if you're able to visually see, those are her seven victims that Lee was confirmed to have killed. Now, the title of this is Eileen Wuornos, a unicorn among serial killers. The term unicorn, when thrown around with serial killers, is really because they're so rare, as, you know, the verbiage of a unicorn is. Female serial killers account for 5-7% of the entire serial killer populace. Now, I don't know why. Maybe it's because, I don't know, maybe women are just sneakier than men. Guys are always getting caught for fidelity, and women aren't. So, maybe that's what it is. Because I know that they're out there. There's nurses who have been found to have been serial killers. There's, you know, all kinds, black widows left and right, and it's just, maybe the thought process was that society thought that women couldn't do it because they're women, which is wrong, and I'm all for it. Maybe with equality, maybe we'll have more female serial killers. Who knows? I know, weird, right? But, going back to talking about Lee here, so like I said, she was born in 1956 and died in 2002. Her seven male clients, and I say clients that she killed, were all because she was a prostitute. Largely killing truckers or any other kind of, you know, men who would pick her up down along the coast. She received six death sentences to run concurrent, and something that, if you know about Lee, whenever someone says Eileen Wuornos, I think of that picture, right, right there, where she's got the cuffs to her throat, and I think of her face, and the thing about her face, if you know what I'm talking about, then you already know. If not, she has one of the most jacked up, fucked up looking faces, but why? And I didn't know. I was like, man, was she really born that way? Like, so in the movie Monster, they don't go into too much detail about how she came to obtain her appearance, if you will, but in the new movie, American Boogie Woman, they actually do, because like I was saying, the new movie is leading up to how she became a serial killer her younger years. In the movie Monster, you know, she's running around with her girlfriend, who, out of all of her relationships, that was only the second lesbian relationship that she was in, but leading up to it, in American Boogie Woman, the actress that they got to play her was a, I forget what her name was off the top of my head, I just saw it the other day, but an attractive girl, and for all intents and purposes, she was an attractive person before this happened, and what it was is, and they go into it in the movie American Boogie Woman, um, the first John that she's with in that movie, she, you know, assaults him, breaks his nose, robs him, and runs away. The end of the movie, spoiler alert, she winds up running into this guy again at a local bar, because she just couldn't stop going there, and when she had elbowed him in the car, or in the truck, she knocked out one of his teeth, and he gave her payback. He beat her so bad that the doctors couldn't reconstruct her face appropriately. That's why she looked the way that she did. They couldn't put her teeth back together. So that was an interesting tidbit that I had no knowledge about prior. I was like, man, does she really just look like that? Because that sucks. Uh, let's see. So Lee started trading sex favors for money, beer, and smokes when she was 11 years old. Um, she had her only child at 14, which is subsequently when she was also kicked out of the house, and I was looking up, and he is still alive. He's actually a photographer in California. You don't really hear about him much, though. I forget where I saw it. I did watch somewhere that there was a, uh, it's like an episode on Netflix or something, but it was, it was getting together all the kids of previous serial killers, and I was like, man, that that's definitely a subclass that, that everybody could say they're a part of. It's not one you can just willy-nilly join either, really. I mean, you have to ask your parents permission, I guess, in a sense. But she, um, started trading for sex at 11, was kicked out and had a kid by 14, and it said that that the man that murdered the child, or the man that, you know, uh, got her pregnant was a friend of her grandfather because she was living, her and her brother were living with grandma and grandpa after the parents had split. She is the, the label of America's first serial killer, female serial killer, but I want to highlight on that because it's, it's true, but it's not true, and we have to remember that it's because when the terminology was coined, and it wasn't coined until, you know, the 1970s as I previously mentioned. So yes, she would be the first female serial killer after that verbiage was coined. However, comma but, America's first serial killer, female serial killer, and actually one of the most prolific female serial killers, again, not speaking on the blood count, I already spoke about her. This was here in America. She went by the name of Jolly Jane, or Jane Toppy. Her spree was from 1895 to 1901. When she was arrested in 1901, she confessed to 31 murders, but was only confirmed 12. Still more than any female, but in America, at least. When asked about it, she stated that her ambition was to kill more helpless people than any other man or woman had before. And she's actually been, or she was, hasn't been, it's been quite a while. She was actually suspected of killing over 100 people, which would make her America's most prolific serial killer hands down if that was founded. But either, you know, neither here nor there. I just wanted that on the record, that it was actually her but then because of the timing of the phrasing serial killer, it is Eileen Wuornos for that purpose. When it comes to serial killers and the sexes, females, there's a Wikipedia page, and I know you can take Wikipedia as, you know, you like it, you don't like it, because anyone can go in there and change stuff. But excuse me, when looking at it, there's actually been 57 serial killers in the US, or no, just in general, 57 female serial killers according to this Wikipedia page. And that just baffles me. Because having worked in law enforcement, I can tell you, women are just as dirty, begrudging, and violent as men, hands down. I think I spoke to you about one of my previous clients, when I was a parole officer, who, you know, she went to prison on a subsequent charge, something minuscule, tiny, and wound up coming out a serial rapist. And I don't know, you could kind of say that my guess, my hypothesis, if you will, going forward, is that I think we're going to see more female criminals starting to come out of the woodworks, because I don't think they're going to be as sheltered anymore in the justice system. Now, what I mean by that, look at sex offenders, right? So real quick, before I go off on that, Eileen Wuornos, put that, she really wasn't that interesting. When I started looking into her, I'm like, okay, she killed seven people. But like, she's not her history. It just wasn't it was it was typical of what you'd find with a with a broken home and a sexually abused individual. But it wasn't, I don't know. I just thought there'd be something more. It was kind of upsetting that it was so trivial, if you will. But she did go on to kill those seven men. And that was the weapon of choice up there that you see, which is a six shot revolver. Most of her victims were found shot in the back of the head, shot in the chest. There's a very brutal scene in the movie monster that where she's with this john and it's not going the way it wants. He winds up raping her with a lead pipe. And I was like, Whoa, that's that's crazy. Another story is, again, when I was a PO, somebody I had on my list. I read the case file. And that is, there was a lead pipe involved. And it was in a sexual nature. And I was like, that infuriated me, actually, because yeah, I mean, I try not to get into too much detail, because I don't want to divulge any of their private information, although I haven't done that yet. So I'm good. But going back to what I was saying, I think we're going to start to see more convictions of females. And personally, I'm all for it. You guys want quality? Here it's coming. It's coming in waves. But here, check this. What I'm talking about, focus on schools. Okay. A and it has been happening more, there's been more female teachers who are going to prison. But a female teacher has sex with a student. Nine times out of 10 winds up with probation. Flip the sexes. And here's the other thing, too. It's always Yeah, for hooting and hollering for the guy, you know, the teenager, because he hooked up with the hot teacher. And we see it a lot. We see it a lot lately, where these semi attractive women are hooking up with these 16, 17 year old boys. It's like, what the hell? What is going on half the time they're married? Because what the hell is going on? But then if you flip those sexes, and you have a male teacher and a female student, holy shit, everyone will lose their mind. Everyone automatically blames the guy. Yet, when it's the female who's a teacher, they don't, they're not as harsh with her. So that's what I'm saying. That's one aspect of it. Female gangs is a very real thing. I've actually been seeing a lot of female, excuse me, motorcycle clubs popping up, which, okay, there's nothing wrong with that at all. But female gangs I've seen, I've actually dealt with quite a few female offenders. Because in my in my time in the criminal justice system. Like I said, I've worked post during and free. And I've seen them in all walks. And it's just, I don't know, I think that I think there's more female serial killers out there than have been accounted for. And I say this, you know, I think that they're smarter. In that aspect, if they're really good at it, then they're smarter than a lot of the guys because they're meticulous. It's just like with suicide, females are more likely to use a I don't want to say less. Well, yeah, less messy way. Because psychologically, they still don't want to like leave a burden for the people where the guy's like, I'm gonna eat this gun and be gone. So in that aspect, I think that there's probably more out there. I mean, hell, look at who was I talking about a while ago? Mary Lou Cotton, or typhoid Mary. I mean, she was killing people that were cooking. You wouldn't catch them. You wouldn't do it. You wouldn't find them. Because they're smart about that. But but you see, not Stockholm syndrome, but munchausen syndrome is big with female offenders. Now I'm not saying that they're serial killers. It's generally just one person. But still, there's, they're just as capable. I've never ever said that a female is not capable of doing what a guy can. When it comes to serial killings, education, anything like that, they're just as capable of doing it. I think I don't know. I think the society's just really had a hold on not having them do it. And then they think I don't I don't know. It's weird to try and put that into verb or into into verbiage, how to verbalize that. Because you just you don't hear a lot about them. I mean, they're just as violent. I mean, look, that's the only thing she uses a gun. If you watch the new movie, she like bludgeons this guy with a freaking cane. They're just as violent. I mean, sociopathic tendencies doesn't care if you're male or female. It's if it if it wants to be your you know, part of your life, it's gonna be part of your life. So who knows? But like I said, so this is just a little excerpt about Eileen Wuornos. I try and mix it up. I try and keep it going. You know, should we should we talk about next? I did cut it down from I was gonna do three a week and then some stuff came up and I'll always have one on Monday. And then I might have one on a Friday. If you want to check the schedule here on Twitch, it'll tell you who's it about. And you know what time it's going to be at generally between five and 530. Whatever works best for you guys. You let me know because really, I'm here talking to you. I'm talking to myself but I'm talking to you. You know what I mean? So let me know in the comments. Look up Serial Slayers on TikTok, YouTube, Twitch, Instagram. Drop me a comment. Hey, talk about this person. Hey, tell me about this for her. Have you heard about this? Because I want to get out of the realm of the basket of serial killers you know because of Netflix. That's what I wanted. I want to get you outside of that. So you can actually see that it's more than just, you know, the money-making ones that Netflix decided to do a video or two about or eight. Like, bummer. And I think a good, oh, oh, here's a good show. Yeah, I'm plugging it. I don't care. I love the show Criminal Mind or not Criminal Minds, Mindhunter. Go give it a watch. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Mindhunter, hopefully, I appreciate that they came out with another series but they talked about, who was the first one? Yeah, we'll talk about him too. Actually, they had the Unabomber. If you look at it, Mindhunter, everyone thinks it was the one season about, I'm picturing him. Why am I drawing a blank right now? About, give me a second. I'll look. I'm so sorry. I have to look it up. And it's going to drive me nuts because, Ed Kemper. See, I told you it would drive me nuts. Everyone thinks that that was like the only one. That's actually the second one. The first one was about Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski. Now, I know that this is, well, this is serial slayers. It's not just serial killers. So actually, I will talk about Ted Kaczynski on one of my upcoming podcasts. Now, that one I can really get into because I have read his dissertation. And here's what's shocking. It is, it was written, or when it was written some couple decades ago. It's accurate to what's going on right now. And you'll see what I'm talking about because I will pull it up for you and read the excerpts. So we will talk about him. Definitely get into Ed Kemper. Ed Gein is a good one that we're going to talk about. But I want to know any questions that you guys have, anything like that. So please go over to those other pages. Drop me a comment. Just let me know because education is what I'm here to help with and to get you to know that there's more than what Netflix is showing you. So everyone I've talked about so far, for the most part, has been on a Netflix show or two. But I think this week, either Wednesday or Friday, I'll update the schedule. But we'll throw some true crime in about what's currently going on over there in Iowa. And the current serial killer that was just caught in California, say within the past couple weeks. Some other people will get into the Grim Sleeper, the ATL child murderer. I mean, there's so many that we're just going to pick one and run with it. But again, I want your input. So thank you guys for tuning in to Serial Slayers. If you have any questions, comments about Eileen, feel free to ask. Or quick Google search if you don't want to ask me, that works too. But I hope to see you guys around later this week. And I will update the schedule to let everyone know who it is we're going to talk about. Until then, this is Brandon, your host of Serial Slayers, and I...
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