Episode 6 Mum's the word

Amy and Rachel, two millennials, discuss their passion for the creepy and spooky, including true crime and spirits. They talk about mummies and Egyptian curses, and share a cocktail recipe called Cleopatra's Kiss. They discuss the theory of Cleopatra's death by snake bite, but note that there are problems with this theory. They also provide a brief history of ancient Egypt, including its religion and beliefs about the afterlife. Hello, I'm Amy and I'm Rachel, and we're just two millennials who share a passion for the creepy and the spooky, harbor a true love for true crime, and share our favorite spirits. So sit back, have a cocktail with two creepy ghouls. Yay! That was beautiful. Thank you, thank you. So today's topic is mummies the word. Okay, mum, that was horrible. I was going to say mums the word. Mums the word is the title of our show today, and we are going to be talking about mummies and getting into some Egyptian curses. Yep, and what's the cocktail to go with that. So, the cocktail. Hold up the phone, I have so many notes over here. So the cocktail for today is called the Cleopatra's Kiss, and this one I am going to tell you how they have it listed as how it was made, their recipe, and then I'm going to do kind of a little tweaks to what I did to make it more Amylicious, if you will. So, they first start off with one and a half ounces of tequila. They say either use a silver or a Blanco, and also use one ounce of mango nectar, one ounce of pineapple juice, half ounce of lime juice, and one to two sage leaves, a pinch of cayenne, and a pinch of salt. So it's very refreshing, very fruity, if you will. If you like mangoes as much as I do, it's delicious. But what I did, I did do the whole, the same measurements for tequila, but instead of mango nectar and pineapple juice, for starters, because I'm budgeting myself, if you will, but mango juice and a pineapple juice blend. It's a juice blend, it was mango pineapple. Yeah. And to give it an extra kick, I also had some frozen pineapple. So what I did is I took some out, and I let it thaw out for a bit, like overnight, and then I put that in a blender to get it like really pureed, mixed in my tequila, my juice, and then I used sweetened lime juice, same measurements. I didn't do sage leaves though, because I don't even know, maybe you can buy them in the store, and I just didn't look. I don't know. I also just didn't want to do that. So I have basil growing in the backyard, so I put a little basil in it, which does pair really nicely with the spices that we used, the cayenne pepper, and the pinch of salt, which I didn't do this, but I think it would be good if you like made like the REM salt and cayenne. I just kind of sprinkled it on top, and I mean, this was delicious. Oh my god, it was so good. It was like the perfect ending to my day. That sounds amazing. Oh my god. It was delicious. It was. It was just a fruity, and you could even... Did you feel like you were back in ancient Egypt? I felt like I was Cleopatra, and also I wanted to kind of get, since it's called Cleopatra's Kiss, I don't know it's like the reasoning why it was called that exactly, but since we're, I kind of wanted to get into the Cleopatra theme here by talking about the snake bite theory, which I thought this was really cool. So the story goes that Cleopatra's death, suicide if you will, was done by a venomous snake bite, inflicted by either an asp, which is like a small viper, or an Egyptian cobra. This suicide would have been poetic, seeing as the asp was a symbol of Egyptian royalty, and the cobra was associated with Cleopatra's favorite goddess, Isis. Oh yeah. And according to Egyptian, Egyptologists, there are some problems with this theory. On her death, cobras are typically at least five feet long, and could grow up to eight feet long, and that's too large to sneak in a basket of figs. And not all snake bites are lethal, and those that do are typically slow and very painful. Yeah. And her death was made to be very quick. Yeah. So that is too improbable. Right. You know, just a quick bite, and then she was out like a light. And that's not true. If you were being bitten by a snake, it would have been long, painful, you would have gone like feverish vomiting. And it's hard to believe that Cleopatra and her two maids were done by this way, or done in by this way. And due to the short time it took for Emperor, well he wasn't even an emperor, I don't think, Octavian, because he was coming to seize her throne, so to speak, and send his guards to collect her. So that all just didn't make sense. So it's more likely that she poisoned herself with an herbal concoction that she either drank, or applied as an ointment. And this would have been a quick death. And it is believed that the herbal concoction was made of a fatal mix of hemlock, wolfsbane, and opia. And this is based on research from ancient documents. So I thought that was a nice little thing, but if she had this cocktail, I don't think she would have killed herself. Nah. Yeah, she would have been like, whatever. Yeah. Come at me, bro. For real. Okay. So do you want me to start with a little bit of history? Please, because I do love my history. I love a history lesson. All right. So obviously, there's a lot of history over in ancient Egypt, because that's where, thankfully, we have like writings and hieroglyphics to kind of date how long they've been there. So there is evidence along the Nile Terrace and desert oases that there were at least people there in the 10th millennium BC as a culture of hunter-gatherers and fishermen, and then was eventually replaced by grain grinding culture. So then, you know, from maybe from nomadic to kind of stationary. It says that climate changes and overgrazing around 6,000 BC began to desiccate the pastoral land of Egypt, forming the Sahara. So that was pretty interesting. So then the early tribal people migrated to the Nile River, where they developed a settled agriculture economy and a more centralized society. So then by the 6,000, this is how old it is, 6,000 BC, a Neolithic culture rooted in the Nile Valley, aka Egypt. During the Neolithic era, several pre-dynastic cultures developed independently, and it's called Upper and Lower Egypt, which will come into play later. Did you know that? No, I did not. I didn't know that. I'm dumbstruck. The earliest known Lower Egyptian site is called Mermida, M-E-R-M-I-D-A. And then the earliest known evidence of Egyptian hieroglyphic inscriptions appeared during this period, dating to about 3200 BCE with like pottery vessels. So now let's go forward a little time because there's not too much that we know there from that history that's like, you know, remains that we could see. So a unified kingdom was formed in 3150 BC by King Menes, M-E-N-E-S. How would you pronounce that? Can you say that again for me one more time? M-E-N-E-S. Menes. Okay. I don't know. Leading to a series of dynasties that ruled Egypt for the next three millennia. Egyptian culture flourished during this long period and remained distinctively Egyptian in its religion, arts, and language and customs. The new kingdom, which is from 1550 to about 1070, so about 500 years BC, began the 18th dynasty, marking the rise of Egypt as an international power that expanded during its greatest expansion to an empire from Syria to Upper Nubia, which I don't know where that is. Isn't that close to Nubia? It sounds like it's close to Africa. Yeah. Right? I'm thinking about the show. I mean, Egypt is in Africa, so. Oh, yeah. I'm thinking about the show of Eda. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, Aida, not Eda. Oh, my god. I'm just, I'm shutting up. I'm drinking. I'm shutting up. This period is known for some of the most well-known fairs. So this 500-year span is where we get King Tut, Ramses, Cleopatra, all that stuff. So, what was their religion? Because this kind of comes into play with curses and things like this. So they believed in many, many deities, many gods, and that they controlled the world. There are about 1,500 deities that are known that the Egyptians believed in, which is a shit ton. Gosh, I can't. Rituals such as prayer and offerings were provided to the gods to gain their favor, and then formal religious practice centered on the pharaohs, the rulers of Egypt, believed to possess divine powers by virtue of their positions. So they acted as, excuse me, intermediaries between the people and the gods and were obligated to sustain the gods through rituals and offerings so that they could maintain, it's called Ma'at, M-A-apostrophe-A-T, the order of the cosmos, which I love that, and repel Isphet, I-S-E-P-H-E-T, which was chaos. The state dedicated enormous resources to religious rituals and the construction of temples. I think this is kind of like a little important to get into, like curses and stuff. So here's where we get to it. So the elaborate beliefs about death and the afterlife reinforced the Egyptians' theology and humans' possession of Ka, K-A, or life force, which left the body at the point of death, and life the Ka received its sustenance from food and drink, so it was believed that to endure after death, the Ka must continue to receive offerings of food whose spiritual essence it could still consume. Isn't that interesting? That is interesting. Each person also had a Ba, B-A, the set of spiritual characters that is unique to each individual. Unlike the Ka, the Ba remained attached to the body after death, Egyptian funeral rituals were intended to release the Ba from the body so that it could move freely and to rejoin it with the Ka so that it could live on as it says A-K-H, but then I didn't explain that, but I'm guessing like as a spiritual form in the afterlife. Do you think they ate kabobs? I hope so. However, it is also important that the body of the deceased be preserved as the Egyptians believed that the Ba returned to its body each night to receive new life before emerging in the morning as an Ak, the A-K-H. Oh my god, did they have like, these are making my throat hurt. Well, that's because they spoke a different language. Okay, I'm just like thinking in my head like whew. Alright, so in the early times, the deceased pharaoh was believed to ascend to the sky and dwell among the stars. Over the course of the Old Kingdom, which is about 2600 to 2100 BC, however, the pharaohs came to be more closely associated with the daily rebirth of the sun god Ra, which we've all heard of. Yes, yes. And with the underworld ruler Osiris. Osiris? Yeah. And those, these were to be like the more important ones, if you will. Alright, I'm almost there. In the fully developed afterlife beliefs of the New Kingdom, the soul had to avoid a variety of supernatural dangers before undergoing a final judgment, which I think we've all seen like Hercules or other movies, known as the weighing of the heart. Oh yeah. Carried out by Osiris and by the assessors of Maat. In this judgment, the gods compare the actions of the deceased, while alive, symbolized by the heart, to the feather of the Maat to determine whether he or she had behaved in accordance with like their societal norms and characteristics. If the deceased was judged worthy, his or her Ka and Ba were united into a Ka, the AKH. Several beliefs coexisted about the destination of where you went afterwards. Often the dead were said to dwell in the realm of Osiris, a lush and pleasant land in the underworld, not like Hades and evil. Would that be kind of like their heaven, or would that just be... Yeah, I would say it's called an underworld. Okay. The solar vision of the afterlife, in which the deceased soul traveled with Ra on his daily journey, was still primarily associated with royalty, but could extend to other people as well. Over the course of the Middle and New Kingdoms, the notion that the AKH could also travel in the world of the living, and to some degree, magically affect events there, became increasingly prevalent. So that's kind of like how we get this. So, as ancient Egyptian rulers, pharaohs were both the head of state and the religious leaders of their people. The word pharaoh means great house, in reference to the palace where the pharaohs resided. While early Egyptian rulers were called kings, remember we had the king Minas, over time, the name pharaoh stuck. And then, as religious leaders of the Egyptians, the pharaoh was considered the divine intermediary between the gods and the Egyptians. That's why they had so much power, because they seemed to know all. Maintaining religious harmony and participating in ceremonies were part of the pharaoh's role as head of their religion. As a statesman, the pharaoh also made laws, waged wars, collected taxes, and oversaw all the land in Egypt, which was owned by them. Many scholars believe that the first pharaoh was Narmer, also called Menes. Though there is some debate among experts, many believe he was the first ruler to unite Upper and Lower Egypt. This is why pharaoh holds the title of Lord of Two Lands. Pharaohs were typically male, although there were some noteworthy female leaders, like Hatsheput and Cleopatra. Hatsheput, in particular, was a successful ruler, but many inscriptions and monuments about her were destroyed after her death, perhaps to stop future women from becoming pharaohs. The curse of the pharaohs, or the mummy's curse, is a curse...take a drink every time you hear the word curse. Is a curse alleged to be cast upon anyone who disturbs the mummy of an ancient Egyptian, especially a pharaoh. This curse, which does not differentiate between theists and archaeologists, is claimed to cause bad luck, illness, or death. I think we all know the most famous king, or pharaoh, excuse me, although we call him King Tut, not Pharaoh Tut, but anyways, he was in the time that they were called pharaohs. Anyways, when archaeologists found the mummified body of King Tutankhamun, correct me if I'm wrong here, but was there only one Tutankhamun, or was there Tutankhamun I? No, and not like Ramses II or whatever, it was just one King Tut that I know of. So, on November 4th, 1922, so a little over 100 years ago, a team of researchers led by British archaeologist Howard Carter discovered a step that marked the entrance to King Tut's tomb. When King Tut's tomb itself was unearthed, a couple weeks later, on November 26th, after more than 3,000 years of uninterrupted repose, so it's been not touched for 3,000 years, which is pretty insane. Some believe the pharaoh unleashed a powerful curse of death and destruction upon all who dared to disturb his eternal slumber. So, the belief in a curse was brought to many people's attention due to the deaths of a few members of the excavation team and other prominent visitors to the tomb shortly thereafter. And to be noted, a warning on King Tut's tomb reads, death shall approach on rapid wings to him who disrupts the king's tranquility. Maybe that's after 3,000 years he wouldn't mind. I have a quick question. Do you think archaeologists get special insurance plans on dig sites like curse insurance in case they open a curse tomb? I mean, there's a need for it, so I don't know why insurance companies don't go out about that. That was one of them. I have many more to come. So, the famous Egyptologist James Henry Breasted worked with Carter soon after the first opening of the tomb. He reported how Carter sent a messenger on an errand to his house. On approaching the home, the messenger thought he heard a faint, almost human cry. Upon reaching the entrance, he saw the birdcage occupied by a cobra, the symbol for the Egyptian monarchy. Carter's canary had died in its mouth and this fueled local rumors of a curse. I mean, that's like an omen. Yeah, if there would be one, that would be it. So then we have Arthur Weigl, W-E-I-G-A-L-L, a previous Inspector General of Antiquities to the Egyptian government, reported that this was interpreted as Carter's house being broken into by the royal cobra, the same as that was worn on the king's head to strike his enemies on the very day the king's tomb was being broken into. An account of the incident was reported by the New York Times. So then we're going to go to Lord Carnarvon. The king's financial sponsor, so the guy who gave all the money so they could go on this expedition, died four months after the tomb was opened. What's more remarkable is that he died of a mosquito bite on his cheek and all the lights in his house mysteriously went out when he died. Have you heard of that one? It kills them. Keep going. And then there are a couple other ones, but I didn't say too much about them, just how some had died and others hadn't. They did a whole study of all the 70 people who went, and they were trying to make people feel better. Well, they're like, most people live to be 70 and fine, but the main people did not. Well, did you in your readings come across, I had once heard that the cobra and the canary, I did hear about that, but I thought there was also one where they sent a little boy in through the tunnel to look around first, and then the little boy died. No, I didn't see that one, but I'll try and look it up real fast. Yeah, if you want to look it up, maybe that's just something that somebody said to spice up the story some more, that they had a village boy, because when they initially dug it out, it was really narrow, so they sent in this child to look around, and then he died. I'll look it up. If you want to look that up, and then I can bring us into some more creepy little stories I have just from other, kind of like curses, if you will. So let me see who did that. Okay, so one of them being, I came across this one little short story about how there was this ancient Egyptian treasure that was given to the German embassy in Egypt in 2007, with a note from an anonymous sender stating that it had cost him and his family nothing but misery since its theft. The thief had supposedly stole the artifact as a souvenir while visiting Egypt and brought it back to Germany, but he became ill with an unidentified ailment. He had a fever, and the sickness percussed to paralysis and death. It was the stepson of the thief that returned the relic. The stepson had feared that until the relic was returned back to Egypt, his family and father still would suffer the consequences. Yeah. Another account was in Louis Penecher's book, Traits des Invulnerables, published in 1699. He described a curse. He told an account of a Polish man who bought two mummies from Alexandria with the intention of studying them for possible treatments, therapy for ailments, disease purposes. And the story goes, he began to be haunted by the ghosts of the two mummies, who appeared to him on the boat as he sailed across the Mediterranean Sea. The man acted fast, though, and tossed the mummies into the ocean. As soon as the bodies were plunged into the sea, the haunting stopped. Mummy might have been responsible for the sinking of the Titanic. Have you heard this one before? I have heard that. I think this is just a story. And it could have happened, but we don't really know. But the story goes that with sounds coming from a mummy's wooden coffin in one of the Britain's museums late at night, one of the museum guards died, and the museum decided to ship the coffin to the United States. And it was decided to take the coffin, like I said, to the United States and transported it on the Titanic. And we all know what happened from there. So, I've heard that even when I was in school. So, I kind of think that's just like a little ghost story to tell people and kind of delight them in with a frightful thing. And then I have another one here. This is Osiris the God of Death. Egyptontologist Walter Brian Emery discovered a little statue of Osiris the Egyptian God of Death during an excavation near Saqqara in 1971. He and his assistant returned to the dig site's headquarters in a nearby village at the end of the dig. Emery brought the Osiris statue with him. He then headed to the bathroom to shower. When he arrived at his house, his assistant began to hear Emery weeping after a few moments. He dashed over to the man and discovered Emery gripping the sink's basin, looking very traumatized. And according to the assistant, he appeared paralyzed and very trauma-stricken. He shook Emery by the shoulders and dragged him to the couch. And the assistant made a call to get medical help, of course, when you see your boss like in that state. Emery was diagnosed that night with right side paralysis and was unable to communicate the next day. And then the next day, Emery passed away. So that's a fun little, not fun, but just a haunted little curse story. Oh, I have a couple more. Oh, yeah. And then King Tut's curse, I forgot to add. Oh, yeah, add that in and then I have a question for you. Okay. So we know that how Carnarvon died from the mosquito bite. So he had a half-brother who also was, I think, part of the expedition or like sideways part, so they're counting this, died from blood poisoning. And then there was Sir Archibald Douglas Reed, who was part of it as well, and he died from a mysterious illness. And then George J. Gould died from a fever following his visit to Egypt. And then the weirdest one was that Howard Carter, the guy who, you know, did the whole expedition, he gave some objects from the tomb as gifts to his friend, Sir Bruce Ingram. And then after that happened, his house burned down. And then after being rebuilt, the house then flooded. Oh, curse ground. If that had happened to me, I'd be like, get these objects out of here. Get them out. Oh, my God, curse objects. Those fascinate me so much. I know. So that is a few more from some little tidbits there. Yeah, King Tut's tomb. Well, I do have a question for you before I discuss our next little bit here. If you were a mummy, what would your curse be? Like, if someone interrupted your tomb, how would you want them to be? I want them to just be slightly inconvenient. So, like, they can't go, like, five minutes without tripping or something stupid like that. That's where my fault is. This is what I was thinking about last night as I was, like, falling asleep, and then I wrote them down because I think this is what I would be. First, I would have them, they are cursed to fart at really inappropriate times. Example, for states, public speaking, one-on-one meetings with their boss after they say I love you. Just really inconvenient. Airport security. Never tan evenly. Oh, God. Their sodas are always flat when they go to drink one. They can never swear again, kind of like in the good place where they can't say... Oh, yeah. Fork. Yeah, fork or... Farts or... Yeah, they cannot cuss. They always feel like they forgot something when they go on vacation or take a day off. Oh, God, that would kill me. Every Monday they have to rap when someone tries to talk to them. Ugh. Every Tuesday... Oh, I have two more. Okay. Sorry. Every Tuesday they wear a different Halloween costume. Like they just magically appear. I just pictured someone walking into the office wearing the inflatable unicorn costume. It makes me happy and just like... And then I have... Winky agrees. Every Friday they are forced to treat the day like a musical and burst out in song with perfect choreography. Oh, I love that. That's not a curse. I mean, it's good. It's honestly just entertainment for my spirit in the afterlife, but... Those are good. I like them. Yeah. Okay, now on to... I wanted to talk about the Manchester's haunted Egyptian statue. Mm-hmm. Let me take a deep breath there because I'm laughing. In the Manchester Museum, there is a 10-inch tall statue of Neb Sanu, which dates back 4,000 years ago, 1800 BC, was found in a mummy's tomb and has been at the museum for 80 years. There is a time-lapse video, which I showed you earlier, and anybody can go to YouTube and look, that shows the time-lapse video of the statue turning during the day. It doesn't go forward or backward like I would think. It goes in a perfect circle. It appears to turn on its own volition, and during the night it remains still. So it only does this during the day. Campbell Price, an Egyptologist at the museum, believes the museum to be struck by an ancient curse. Cameras have been placed around it, and to the naked eye it may appear to be still, Time-lapse technology can show you the rotation of the statue. This statue is something that used to sit in the tomb with the mummy. In ancient Egypt, they believed that if the mummy is destroyed, then the statue can act as an alternate vessel for the spirit. It is believed that this could be causing the movement of the statue, so like a conduit. Professor Brian Cox, who teaches physics, explains that it's differential friction, where two surfaces, the serpentine stone of the statue and the glass of the shelf it sits on, cause a subtle vibration which is making the statue turn. This led to an investigation that concluded that the figure rotates as a result of vibrations from road traffic, visitors walking past, buses, even football games going on in the nearby stadiums. Specialists placed sensors under the cabinet to detect vibrations, and a vibration expert, Steve Gosling, tested this theory by placing three axis sensors under the wall-mounted cabinet containing the relic for 24 hours. The test started at 6 p.m. and a peak in vibration was level which correlated with the movement of this time. Overnight, the vibration stopped and the statue stopped rotating. At 7 a.m. the following day, movement began again and the vibration started too. The vibration is a combo of the busy roads, buses, like I said before, the football activity that goes on around it in the nearby area, to explain why the other statues don't rotate, he explained that the statue has a convex base. There is a lump at the bottom which makes it more prone to vibrations than the others which have a flat base. This is conclusive, but I mean, me being me, I don't want to believe that. Anna Garnett, an Egyptologist curator, previously believed that the movement was due to force beyond the physical. And then I thought initially that could EMF also explain this? And EMF is electric and magnetic fields that are in visible areas of energy, often referenced as radiation that is associated with electrical power and natural forms of natural and man-made lighting. And this is found in a lot of paranormal investigators use this. And there's also ley lines, straight alignments drawn between various historic structures and prominent landmarks. And three years after World War I, Alfred Watkins, a counselor in Brule, Hertfordshire in the UK, born in 1855, he was also an amateur archaeologist. While he was out riding in 1921, he noticed a grid of straight lines that stood out like glowing wires all over the surface of the country, where churches, standing stones, I'm thinking Stonehenge, crossroads, burial monuments, moats, beacon hills, holy wells, and stone-cold crosses appeared to fall into perfect alignment. And this is known as Earth Energies. So ley lines, I just remember that from the Ghostbusters, the new version they did with the women. And I thought, well, maybe that's another paranormal thing. So I just find it very interesting because it goes in a circular motion. And, I mean, he said that there is the lump at the bottom that causes this, but... I don't know. But the weight of those things, too. Yeah. I mean, those things aren't going to be light. They're not light. They're not light at all. They're not airy on the inside. Not at all. So, I mean, it's kind of one of those things where if you, it's, that's what they, they've proven it, that's what they say, but I just, I have my doubts regarding it. That's their science for it. That is their science for it. And, to me, it also just reminded me of a memory I had. If you've ever been to the Indianapolis Children's Museum of Science. I have. My friends got married there. That's really cool, by the way. It was really neat. That's really cool. But do you, I don't know if they still have, they had an Egypt area, and then they had this big... Oh, true. I didn't see that. Yeah. Oh, back in the day when I was a kid, they had one of those big blocks like that they would use to build the pyramid. And so they had this thing where they would test it where you could kind of realize how much the weight of that block was. Oh, yeah. So it would have to be created in the pyramids. And, I mean, it was heavy. I did do a little research. I guess I didn't put in my notes about the pyramids because how they get started, like the Pyramid of Giza, the Great Pyramid, and like a couple other ones, and how they are like perfectly, or how if you had laid it brick by brick, it would almost like make a whole circle around the world. And then how heavy they were. And that's why it's still a mystery how they did it without modern technology. We still don't know. Do aliens help them? No, because then I don't think that gives any credit to the Egyptians. I feel like they figured it out. And we don't. We haven't. I don't like saying like, oh, they couldn't figure it out. Aliens. But I think that... Aliens helped them, I'm telling you. No. They often helped us by building the Great Wall, probably. No. I just, I want us to figure it out. I have an idea, kind of, sort of, but I don't really. I mean, those things were so heavy, though. How many men would it take to... It had to take like hundreds. Thousands and thousands. Hundreds, thousands. I mean, it is... It took years. It took years. And how they built them up into that formation. And they knew exactly where to put it so that the points, so that the four, main four pyramids, it's like north, south, east, and west, and how it perfectly, the top of the pyramid is right where the sun hit. Like, they knew it all. They knew everything. It's because they were cultured for like three millennia without any instruction. They got to kind of like do science and, I don't know. It blows my mind in a great way. Winky, do you know? Winky, do you know the secrets of Egypt? She's looking at me like, sure I do. What? It's quantum mechanics. That would be amazing if she could do like math like that. That's what it is. You know what, I'm not doubting it. But hey, so I have some movie recommendations, show recommendations. What about you? I'm going to let you go first. I mean, I think we both have the mummy on there, don't we? Yeah, absolutely. I have multiple mummies. I love that movie. The original. I don't know if I've seen the sequels. But the original is a great version. Yes, with Rachel Weisz and Brendan Fraser. That is just a great, a great movie. Did you know I saw it in theaters when I was a kid and I was terrified? I don't think I saw it in theaters, but I had a bit, or I used to. Most of my parents have it on VHS. Shows our age. The classic days. You've got to rewind it. I find it so satisfying to rewind. Yeah. And then, the second one's pretty good, though. The 2001 follow-up. Okay. And then, I know it's really religiously, but I did like Joseph, King of Dreams. Have you ever seen that? I don't think I have. I've seen The Prince of Egypt. There's that, too, which is also good. That's a good one. Joseph, King of Dreams, he sees, he like dreams the future and he helps the pharaoh. I think it's very, I think it's supposed to be religious. That's really good. I enjoyed it. I watched it at my friend's house. She had it. I was like, oh. I mean, way back in the day and I still remember it. I like The Prince of Egypt, too, because I've been thinking when we were reading it. Are you talking about the animated or the one with Jake Gyllenhaal? The animated. Yeah. Not Gyllenhaal. Now, I'm thinking about like Martin Short and Steve Martin were like little villains in it. And they had the song, you're playing with the big boys now. And they sing like all about like the gods and stuff. It's a villain song, but it's a really good one. And I like sometimes sing that to myself. But I also have the 1932 The Mummy. That's also like a classic film. Watching around the Halloween season. Very dramatic. Love it. And then Boris Karloff in it. Then we have the 1959 and it's called The Mummy. I know they were very original with their titles. And that one actually has I Love Peter Cushnie and Christopher Lee movies. And it's really entertaining because Christopher Lee is the mummy. But he was like six foot something. So, he's a tall mummy. Tall one. It's just funny watching him, too. Like walking around in the mummy. He walks around in the mummy outfit. Yeah. And it's like in everything. It's like, well, that's a tall mummy. And they were not that tall. Just FYI. Does Night at the Museum count? Oh, you know what? We'll throw that in. I think it's really funny. Whenever he goes back to meet his parents. Sorry. Spoiler alert. And then you've been to Stiller's with them. Yeah. And they say, oh, we love the Jews. They used to sing for us. Oh, we love them. And he was like, yeah, no, that was slavery. And, you know, we were acting in mystery. Not cool. Everything. It was really just entertaining. Oh, do you remember a cartoon in 1997 called The Mummy's Alive? No, I do not. Oh, my God. That was like, I was looking that up, too. They did 42 episodes. And it was in 97. Wow. And it was called, we are the mummy's protectors of the universe. No. What was it on? I think it was on UPN. Oh, right. My age is showing. Also, one of my favorite episodes of Drunk History is the one with Cleopatra, where Aubrey Plaza's Cleopatra. That's a good one. That's a really good one. But it's not about, like, all that Cleopatra. It's about, like, her sister, Arsenawe, who was, she went, like, against Julius Caesar. Yeah. It's hella funny. Very entertaining. Recommend that one. That's a good one. And then I'm also recommending the show Moon Knight. Did you watch that? No, it's on Disney. I know I need to watch it. Oh, it's so good. It's so good. Okay. It's so, so, so, so, so good. I recommend that to people. And it's very, it's very different than what Disney typically does. Okay. I mean, it's very, you explore, like, drama, and it's more serious, honestly. Okay. I highly recommend that. Okay. And that has a lot of good old Egypt gods, goddesses, and very entertaining. Great acting, Oscar Isaac. Okay. So I recommend that. I really was into that. I'll watch it. So those are my recommendations, along with my hella good cocktail. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. It's filled with mangoes, and it's not filled with hemlock, wolfsbane, or vampires, or blood, or what's the other bad ingredient? Hemlock, wolfsbane. Oh, and opium. And opium. And opium. That could be good, too. But none of that. But we hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Two Creepy Little Moms Award. Hope to continue with this ride. Ghouls out, everybody.