Maybe Pass on the Cup of Sugar

Two Millennials, Amy and Rachel, talk about creepy neighbors. They share stories about their own experiences and discuss different types of creepy behavior. They also share a recipe for a cinnamon toast crunch shot. Amy talks about a creepy neighbor named Jason Clark who started off as annoying but escalated to harassment and threats. He dressed in a ghillie suit and tormented neighbors, even killing their dogs. He turned his house into a spy fortress and had an arsenal of weapons. The neighbors tried to sell their homes but Jason scared away the realtors. One neighbor had to give their house away to their church. The police didn't take action, making Jason feel untouchable. The neighbors installed security cameras but Jason was always one step ahead. The story ends with the neighbors still suffering. Hello, I'm Amy. And I'm Rachel. And we're just two Millennials who share a passion for the creepy and the spooky, harbor a true love for true crime, and share our favorite spirits. So sit back and have a cocktail with Two Creepy Ghouls. Yay! That was a great one. Thank you. So what's our topic today, Rach? It's Creepy Neighbors. Yeah, I feel like I like the title of our people can relate to I'm sure at some point in their lives. Oh my god, yes, I've had since I lived where I have, I've met many a creepy neighbor, or just weird neighbors. Well, thankfully, where I live now, it's not bad at all. But I did have neighbors when I lived in that apartment. I had the sweetest old man there for three years. And then this young lady and her boyfriend moved in. And then I realized how actually thin the walls were and heard them fighting all the time. I was like, okay, and I've got to move. And to move. They were creepy. They were just awful. Just annoying when you have people. Which my person is more on the awful side than on the creepy side. But I think it's creepy what he did. So we're counting it. Okay, no, I got that. No, I think mine. The craziest one was this guy. Him and his wife. They were just they always wanted to kind of be in your business. Like think of the rabbits in Abner from Be Witch. Yeah. And he was just like a racist. And I found out all these details. And no, but one time, he apparently if you have a UTI, and it's like untreated, I think, like you go insane, it can make it can mess with your brain function. Yeah. So at one point, I think he was outside running around naked. And there's all this commotion. I didn't see anything. Thank God, because this is an older gentleman. Wait, is that one of yours? Neighbors? This is the crazy one. Oh, yeah, that's right. And then they finally moved. But yeah, that was an ordeal. Now they're creepy neighbors to someone else. They're creepy, annoying neighbors to someone else. Thank God. So and may we never meet again. May we? Oh, what's the drink to go with creepy neighbors? So this is one of my favorite shots. And it's called a cinnamon toast crunch shot. Oh, and the ingredients are two ounces of rum chata, one ounce of fireball whiskey, and then top with a little cinnamon. And my suggestion too would be to do like a cinnamon sugar rim on the glass. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because that would really like, I don't know. But it like literally tastes like a cinnamon toast crunch, like cereal. Like it's just so cinnamony, it's so good. And that's the shot I did. And what you can do is like mix them in a cocktail shaker, add ice and then just pour over. And like I said, run the glasses if you'd like or just a little cinnamon. But yeah, I had one last night and it was so good. So good. I know. Did you choose this because instead of like a creepy, you went with something sweet, like a sweet neighbor? Yeah, I kept just thinking about like the old thing of I'm going to go get a cup of sugar. You're right. You're right. Yeah. Which I've never done that. Um, I think that was the thing more. One thing when I grew up, I had a couple of friends and then I could go ask or like if we were baking cookies and we needed something and one of our houses were missing it, we'd get it from another one. But most things that neighbors do, I feel like if you're like really close to your neighbor, like, oh, hey, will you just keep an eye on my house while I'm out of town or collect my mail or package? Yeah. And I've done that. Yeah. No, I've done that. And yeah, I think new neighbors, if you're new to a neighborhood, some people will like bake you cookies or bring over something, which is a really nice gesture. I would totally do what that happened, but they're all going to be new neighbors, aren't they? Because it's like a new development. It's going to be a new development. So it's not like someone's been there for three years and then welcomed you to the neighborhood. You guys are all new. We're all new. So that'll be a fun experience when that happens. It will be, which I'm excited for. But, uh, yeah. So let's get into our stories and you may hear my dog in the background with her baby toy. Do you want to go first? Do you want me to go first on our story or did you want to talk about something else before our story? I think the stuff that we're going to talk before our stories, we're going to come back to after we talk about. Okay. Because I have like some like facts, statistics and like what to do if you do have a neighbor situation. So let's put that at the end. Yeah. So what's recommended? So would you like to go first? Sure. I'd absolutely would. Sure. So this person's name is, I mean, it's pretty generic name, Jason Clark. So I found this on a cracked article, but then I had to look him up so I can get more and more details. So I don't know if you ever looked up cracked articles. They're very funny, very well written and over the top and I love it. And so that's how I found this creepy neighbor. Oh, fun. So he was a telecommunications worker and he had been away from his family home for some time. And the neighbors had known that the neighbors had known him as a child. And this was located in Dalgrada, Alabama. So we're in Alabama for this. So everyone's like, oh, this man has come back to live in his neighborhood from growing up because I think he moved back in with his mother. Things seemed great in the neighborhood until a young woman moved in the house next door to the Clarks. Jason was polite at first until her dog had puppies, which rude puppies are adorable. Yeah, they are. The yipping and noise from the dogs annoyed Jason and his mother and Jason confronted his neighbor who assured him that all the dogs would be going to new home as soon as possible as long as when they got big enough, which makes sense. You have to wait. Yeah, they have to wait till there's time. And then you come and sell them. Yeah. Yeah. That exclamation apparently wasn't enough. Jason sued his neighbor and a judge ultimately fined her $500, which I don't get why the judge side with him. But another neighbor, Sarah Chandler, testified that she had never heard the dog is barking. So her testimony, Sarah, in the eyes of Jason was an utter betrayal. When she received a threatening phone call later that afternoon, she was certain it was Jason and called the police who couldn't make an arrest without proof, which I do get. The lack of action from law enforcement only seemed to embolden this once beloved man. Sounds like a dick. Oh, just wait. Oh, God. Neighbors with whom Jason had always been friendly were suddenly his targets. He began taunting the neighborhood watch captain by making sexual innuendos about his wife. You regularly slinked around the bushes in a ghillie suit, which I'm not quite sure that is to jump out and startable neighbors, which what the fuck? Google it. Continue and I will show you. All right. Repeated calls by neighbors. The police did nothing. Jason seemed untouchable and what the cops perceived as a petty neighborhood spat, which that can escalate just like fucking onlookers. Oh, God. So he was dressed like a bush. Yeah. Like this is what an armory. Yeah. Think of what a hunter would use in the middle of the night where you don't see them. Yeah. Oh, my God. This took a more threatening step when Sarah arrived from arrived home from work one day to find her front door windows shot out and bullets lodged in her walls. Down the street, more neighbors found their dogs dead from poison. Oh, I knew you weren't going to like that. Oh, God. Yeah. Oh, which demonstrate can you fucking hear them? No, you can't. Let me just say, as someone who has had dogs her whole life, even when a dog is like that, I guess I am just accustomed to that. I sleep through it. It doesn't bother me. Or yes, especially the dogs in the house at night. It's not like you as the neighbor can hear them. Oh, my God. Who knows? Oh, OK. But it's a dog isn't plural. You know I'm saying. So Jason's harassment continued when he installed floodlights aimed at Sarah's home and began tormenting her by flashing lights in her windows. OK, now that is a no. Yeah. No, no. Again, Sarah called the cops with the lights would be shut off when they arrived in the neighborhood. Of course. And this is like about 10 years ago, ish, I think. So I'm running cameras, weren't quite a thing yet. And, you know, installing right videos. That's because that person's like, why don't you just install a camera? But then I get to this part, like it wasn't big. So then what do you do? I go to Home Depot or Lowe's and get one. So neighbors began coordinating against Jason. They came together as a group and installed security cameras to catch his antics. But he's still seeing one step ahead of them. No. He seemed to have their schedule memorized to the minute. Creepy. No. What makes you think what kind of time do you have on your hands? Apparently, I want to hear this next part. OK. It didn't take long before the neighbors heard a new sound. It was recordings of their phone calls to 9-1-1 and to each other being blasted over loudspeakers in Jason's yard, which means he's fucking tapped their phones. I'm my eyes are big right now. He spent a fortune turning his house into kind of a spy fortress, complete with a bright orange fence, motion activated spotlights and security cameras. Inside, he kept an arsenal of rifles, pistols and 40,000 rounds of ammunition. Creepy. He's like a terrorist. He mowed his lawn dressed in black and wearing a hockey mask. No. Unless it's Halloween. No. No. Things got so bad that one neighbor tried to sell his house, but Jason wouldn't let that happen either, scaring the realtors away with his harassment. It seems he didn't want to let this place in go. So this neighbor ended up giving his house away to his church. But neighbors who couldn't afford to donate themselves into homelessness continue to suffer. That was a cracked article line. There was a neighbor, Tony Calhoun, who lived just a few blocks away and was visiting someone in the neighborhood when Jason up and ran over him. Shockingly, Jason had previously been convicted for harassing neighbors in another part of town and all those guns he was stockpiling were a huge violation of a protective order he was under. So as of as of 2016, he was facing up to 20 years in prison. As of 2016, he was facing up to 20 years in prison. But when I went to check on him, he actually got 40 years in jail. So now he is riding in jail. Good. That's a quick end. But your article, like, I feel like my person is a lot tamer. Well, this is more like it's it's like creepy doesn't even begin to describe it like he is. That's like, yeah, no, this isn't really famous person. I can't go much into like his background or, you know, things like that. This is just what I could get from as many articles as I could about him. But yeah, if you look at his picture, which I don't have, it's terrifying. Well, I'm looking at what's his name, Jason Clark, Jason Clark. And then should I put horrible neighbors or Dalreida, Alabama or something like that? I mean, he's like a four year old white guy, like a little bit bigger receding hairline, like it kind of like, yeah, it's like the criminal profile. What you got him? Yeah. Okay. No, I was receding hairline, but I receded on the left side. I'm like, yeah, no, he just looks angry. Like it doesn't look like he smiled in 20 years. Yeah. There's there's no eyebrows and no eyebrows. So and he has a very red blotchy face. Definitely looks like he's full of hate and regret. That's how I would use to describe him. Yeah. So that was my creepy neighbor, who I would, oh my gosh, if that happened to me, that's just terrifying. I would, I would lose it. I would too. No, I don't even know. Killing the dogs at that point, I would have been like, he was like, for one, I didn't quite go into it, but he put stuff on a neighbor's grass that he knew the dog would eat and that poisoned him, or he made him super, super sick. And so then the neighbor had to put the dog down and they realized they were to figure out what it was. Yeah. At that point, I would be like, please come hit me. Please do something. Because once you lay your hands on me, then we got some hard proof to take you away. Like I would be doing that. He literally sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic or something like that. As you know, it's like, mentally, mentally something's not there. And he needs to admit that he is not digging or needs to be diagnosed. So that gives me chills. So yes, I always don't have them all. All my, like I said, all my neighbors currently, they're all fine. I mean, I don't know them well enough. Do you know your neighbors? I know my next door neighbor, but as far as people have moved so like frequently. So the ones that, you know, we maybe used to have, like know a lot more, they're not here anymore. But like my next door neighbor, the one literally that shares like a wall with me. I know her and I have her phone number. So that's nice. Yeah. And so she's like the sweetest human being on the planet. So I lucked out there. But my story is actually based on a popular series on Netflix. What's it called? The Neighbor? It's called The Watcher. The Watcher. Okay. Jennifer Kuhl has been in it. Oh wait, I remember it. I think I watched it. Yeah. And Bobby Carnevale. I didn't watch it either. It's on my list of things. Is it based on a true story? Yeah, it's based on a true story, loosely kind of thing. And obviously they, I think one of the writers who does like American Horror Story, he, you know, of course he added more bits into it and probably really upped the creep factor and the mystery about it. But this is like the truest bit that I could find. Okay. So it premiered on Netflix in 2022. And the series was released called The Watcher. And the series tells the story of a married couple moving into their dream home, but suddenly become threatened by horrific letters from a stalker signed The Watcher. And the events that inspired the series go back to 2014 when couple Derek and Maria Broadus, who also had three children, purchased their dream home at 657 Boulevard in Westfield, New Jersey. And this happy new start for them was soon disrupted by ominous letters that kept showing up signed The Watcher. They became a target for a stalker that terrorized their lives. The letters started showing up three days after closing. And another claim that it all started when the couple had started renovation work on the $1.3 million property. So this isn't $1.3 million. Just, yeah, it blows my mind. But ahead of them moving in, they received a letter addressed to the new owner. And the letter sender is identified themselves as The Watcher and further claimed to be the house's watcher ahead of its second coming. The Broadus just shared the content of the letters. The first one read as follows. 657 Boulevard has been with the subject of my family for decades. Now, and as it approaches its 110th birthday, I have been put in charge of watching and waiting for its second coming. My grandfather watched the house in the 1920s and my father watched in the 1960s. It is now my time. Do you know the history of the house? Do you know what lies within the walls of 657 Boulevard? Why are you here? I will find out. And note, the police reportedly searched the home and they found nothing in the walls. Like there was nothing suspicious there. That's what the police stated. And The Watcher also made references to the couple's children and asked them to fill the house with young blood. You have children. I have seen them. So far I think there are three that I have counted, they wrote. The Broaduses went to the police naturally and were advised not to share the letter's contents with their neighbors since the police believed the most likely scenario was that one of the neighbors had sent them. And another note, the writer of the letter had at one point scolded the couple for making renovations to the home and threatened to kidnap their three children. And here's another letter, at least part of it. Was your old house too small for the growing family or was it greed to bring me your children? Once I know their names, I will call to them and draw them to me. There was no return address was listed, obvi, which you know, wouldn't do that if you were a stalker. But they closed the letter with an ominous line. Welcome, my friends. Welcome. Let the party begin. Signed, The Watcher. That's messed up. And it was in a typed cursive font. At least it wasn't Times New Roman. Yeah, at least. 12 point font, like you're right. Okay. And then this is me being the, you know, smart ass that I am. I would have proofread the letter on my porch and left it on my front steps for them. Like this. You need to correct the font. You need to put it in this. Yeah. So make sure your headers are this. And don't use this. Yeah. I actually, on a little side note, I had in high school, again, this is a very like teenager thing. We had this book that we would pass around from each other for classes, like to keep in touch with each other because one of our friends was a year younger. And so, you know, cause we've all met in, um, yes, I was in band camp. That's right. In marching band. So we all met there. And so then we would pass this book around with each other, have conversations. Well, one of the friends like got mad at me because this, we did this for probably like six months to a year. And then senior year, she was just kind of getting on my nerves because she was always a flake. And so she kind of got like sassy with me and said, um, then wrote me a letter. Like, I don't know what's your problem, Amy. And I don't know this, this and that. Did you correct her? Yeah, I did. I proofread her letter to me and then I said, okay, make these corrections and then I will respond. Sass. I did it. Yeah. I did it in like a red ink too. To be like, remember your preposition. Did she make the changes? No, I don't think. We didn't talk much after that. I bet not. But I'm like, but that's my little teenage drama. So the next day, Maria and Derek found out that the previous owners, John and Andrea Woods, had also received a strange letter from the Watcher. And the days before the Woods had moved out, they received a letter where the writer claimed they had been keeping a close eye on the house. For the 23 years the Woods lived there, they had never heard from the Watcher until then. They had assumed it was a prank and just disregarded it. Going back to the police, took the matter seriously and had told the broadestest not to bring this up to the neighbors since again, they were suspects. So just kind of keep it to yourself. Don't go like inquiring about it, that sort of thing, just to see what happens. So two weeks after the first letter, another one came and it read the following. The workers have been busy and I have been watching. You unload carfuls of your personal belongings. The dumpster is a nice touch. Have they found what is in the walls yet? In time, they will. This time the Watcher referred to the broadestest by name, spelling their surname as Mr. and Mrs. Braddest instead of Broadest. And I'm like, okay, petty. Derek and Maria grew worried with the details that the Watcher knew, especially about their children, including their names and date of birth. Since renovations were still happening and with the letters, the family had yet to really move in. So they're not even in the house living in it. So the writer wrote another letter questioning the broadestest if they would let their kids play in the basement and stated, or are they too afraid to go down there alone? I would be very afraid if I were them. It is far away from the rest of the house. If you were upstairs, you would never hear them scream. The Watcher wrote. The Watcher also shared in that same letter that they passed by many times a day. 657 Boulevard is my job, my life, my obsession. And now you are too, Braddest family. After that, Maria and Derek stopped bringing their kids to the house. Weeks later, they received another letter where the Watcher wrote, where have you gone to? 657 Boulevard is missing you. Now the question on our minds is, is this, did the broadest family ever move in? The answer is no, they did not. They had purchased the property for 1.4. Well, I read 1.3 and then I read 1.4 million six months later. So just in that range. And six months later, it was back on the market. Unfortunately, they could not find a buyer due to the creepy letters, which the broadest family did decide to disclose that information to the potential buyer. Yeah, good. Derek had even stated to New York Magazine, I don't know how you can live through what we did and think you could do it to somebody else. In 2016, they made an attempt to sell the house again for 1.25 million, but the letters were a deterrent for any buyers. The family's real estate lawyer suggested they sell the home to a developer who would tear down the house, which would have required the Westfield Planning Board's blessing, since dividing the lot into two homes would go against local code. So then you have codes to think about, which is just the pain in the ass. And boards. The broadest request was unanimously rejected, which I think we all knew that was going to happen. After a four-hour board meeting in which locals aired their concerns that tearing down 657 Boulevard would lower the cost of their homes and ruin the aesthetic of the neighborhood. So I'm just thinking lots of privileged people. Yeah, lots. Months went by and the broadest were able to rent the home shortly after the renters moved in. You guessed it, another letter appeared dated February 13th, which was the same day the broadest gave a deposition and a legal complaint they had filed in June 2015 against the home's previous owners, the Woodses, who claimed that should have warned them about the watcher. The complaint was later dismissed by the judge. Did the former people say they had the letters? No, for 23 years, they never had any letters until they sold it. Then they received a letter. So this was new knowledge to them as well. And the letter read, you wonder who the watcher is? Turn around, idiots. Maybe you even spoke to me, one of me, one of the so-called neighbors who has no idea who the watcher could be, or maybe you do know and are too scared to tell anyone. Good move. So they're just taunting letters. The newest letter was more aggressive than the first three with complaining about the media attention. The broadest had brought my neighborhood, quotation marks, and celebrated how the local residents had saved the soul of 657 Boulevard with my orders. The watcher went on to threaten Derek and Maria, plotting their deaths, maybe a car accident, maybe a fire, maybe something as simple as a mild illness that never seems to go away, but makes you feel sick day after day after day after day. Surprisingly, the runners at the time didn't leave the house, but requested the broadest install additional security cameras. There was a fourth and final letter that, to summarize, ended with the watcher declaring you are despised by the house and the watcher won. Was the watcher ever caught? Yeah. From the start, the police believed the culprit was someone in the Westfield neighborhood. At first, they believed Michael Langford, the broadest's next door neighbor, whose family had been there since the 60s and was described as a Boo Radley type. Oh, gosh. So, a hermit, very odd, quiet character. There really wasn't any hard evidence against Langford, and he was never arrested. A later investigation revealed DNA on the envelope was female. Authorities had investigated Langford's sister, Abby, and a real estate agent in the home's previous owner, Andrea Woods. Neither was a match. Even Maria's DNA was tested, but she was quickly ruled out. And another potential suspect, a man who was into dark video games and played a character named The Watcher. Oh, shit. According to his girlfriend, was dismissed after he failed to show up for multiple meetings with authorities, which to me, that's suspicious. That's so stupid. I mean, that's just, to me, that's the red flag. Yeah. And some folks in the neighborhood told New York Magazine that it was possible the broadest's were behind the letters. They suggested the couple had realized they couldn't afford the home and wrote the creepy letters themselves in order to get out of the sale. Some had suggested the couple were scammers looking for a movie deal. It was reported, by the way, that the broadest's turned down several offers and sent a case and a cease and desist letter, excuse me, to Lifetime after the network released a 2016 movie called The Watcher, inspired by the ordeal. Derek had admitted to sending anonymous letters to his neighbors who had bashed him on Facebook three years after The Watcher had contacted him. His hope was that the letters would help clear his family's name since he had signed them friends of the broadest's family, since The Watcher was never caught. In the summer of 2019, the family sold the home for, guess how much they sold it for? $700,000? $959,000, which was $400,000 loss, especially for a house. They never lived in, and they never even lived in it. That's the kicker. When the new owners moved in, they had a letter delivered by their real estate attorney that read, and this letter was from the broadest's, and it was delivered by the attorney, and it read, we wish you nothing but the peace and quiet that we once dreamed of in this house. They also include a photo of The Watcher's handwriting, just in case any new letters arrived. Currently, none have. Yeah, figures, naturally. An update on the broadest's family, they moved to a smaller home in Westfield. They were traumatized by their experience, and they are trying to move on. The Netflix series, which they said they had no intention to watch, did not make them rich or cover their losses, really, from the sale of 657 Boulevard. Even though the identity remains a mystery for The Watcher, after the 2018 article that was published in New York Magazine, the Union County Prosecutor's Office asked those who lived near 657 Boulevard to voluntarily submit DNA samples. None of the neighbors were a match, though one neighbor named Malcolm Mannix had issues with the DNA search. According to the cut, which is the publication, there is no one by that name that lives in Westfield. Food for thought. Yeah, I bet. So they never fucking found out? They never did. Can you imagine, though? A part of you would always just be like, I just want closure. Just tell me, I never lived in my dream home. I lost $400,000. God. Now, you're probably still going to need therapy from that. Yeah, that's terrifying. And you're probably never going to even feel safe in your own home. Nope. So that's awful. I feel bad. Yeah. Yeah. This was more psychological, where you really feel like it was more like in your face, like action. Jeez, these are... I don't know which one I would prefer. I don't know. I mean, I guess because... They're both terrifying. Now that we have so much guns and stuff, yeah. I think this one could hopefully be caught. I feel like your situation, I wouldn't want to be around somebody that could physically harm me. Or this one, you're dealing with Todd Dingwich. Listen, I could taunt myself. I don't need any handouts. We all know that. I mean, he could've estimated. If the threats are real threats, yeah. I mean, but the letters, I think there was only four total. Yeah. I'm curious. I know. I would just be like, I don't care. I want a security system. I want cameras on every angle of the house. We're going to find this motherfucker. We're going to do this. That is weird. What to do? Are you ready? Oh yeah. Let me go back. So let me go back to the beginning. Okay. So yes, let's do what to do. You go ahead. So I looked at when neighbors are causing a stir, the best course of action is talking first. According to industry professionals, moving to avoid problems is a financial drain and won't help future residents. So people are like, we'll just move. Okay. In this day and age, moving is expensive. It is so expensive. You have to save for a new house. You have to look for a new house. It's in your budget. So talking first and asking, being friendly about it. But in a worst case scenario, reporting unseemly behavior to the authorities can help homeowners keep their houses while protecting their property values. Yeah. So what I had at the end was like, if none of these ideas, like meeting them in a public place to talk about it, explain how you're affected by it, working towards a solution. It said if you're able to build a privacy fence. But then it said, if none of this works, a good idea is to file a complaint because the police will have a harder time taking further action if there's nothing on file. But there really isn't much to do other than be like, hey, can you please? Yeah. First have like a friendly conversation and then you have to go to calling. And there are non-emergency numbers that you can call for the police. I believe you should always have that handy just in case. And then I have some fun statistics. Cool. I think I do too. All right. The one I have is the majority of Americans, 57 percent, say they only know some of the neighbors, but far fewer, 26 percent, say they know most of them. And then if we break it down by age, Americans age 65 and older are more likely than those 18 to 29 to say they know most of their neighbors. In contrast, about a quarter, 23 percent of adults under 30 don't know any of their neighbors compared to just 4 percent of those 65 and older don't know any of their neighbors. I agree with that. What do you have? Dealing with neighbors is a natural part of American life, but tensions between neighbors do have an impact on where people live. Out of 2,000 Americans with neighbors surveyed by LendingTree, 24 percent say they dislike at least one of their neighbors. Yep. I have about two-thirds of Americans who know at least some of their neighbors distinctly so they're comfortable asking to leave a set of keys with them for emergencies. Rural residents are more likely than people living in the suburbs in urban areas to know all or most of their neighbors, but they aren't more likely to interact with them, which makes sense because it's rural. I know that nearly 20 percent of Americans, that's one in five, have moved because of an obnoxious neighbor. Oh, shit. That's way more than I thought. Again, more food for thought. 23 percent of Americans have called police on their neighbors according to a survey. It seems pretty high. And then 73 percent of Americans dislike at least one of their neighbors. Isn't that insane? I also have that bad neighbor behavior can negatively impact home values, sometimes by more than five percent to ten percent. I believe that. They just want to get out. Yeah. Yeah. That's awful. So if you don't have neighbor problems, consider yourself fortunate. I do consider myself fortunate. I mean, do your parents have neighbor problems? There's one neighbor. There's a rural area. Well, yeah, there are more out in the country, but my parents do have a neighbor. It's this young couple, and they're just they're just annoying as shit because they don't watch their dogs and they're taking forever to put up a fence. And the house they bought is a lemon. Like everything that could go wrong has gone wrong. They're just very they don't think things through. They don't take care of their everything. And my mom is just getting on my mom's last nerve. That's what I would say. Yeah. So and I just told her, just like, Mom, just don't. And she's like, I'm worried about my dogs and I don't want their dogs. I want my dogs and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I know, I know. It's annoying. My there's really it didn't make me think. I was like, oh, my parents get along with all their neighbors, but that's not true. The neighbor right next to them. Oh, God. Which that house has been the only one that's really turned over a lot. I mean, it caught on fire way back in the day. A young couple flipped it. Then their family lived there for about 10 or 15 years, and then they sold it because the couple got divorced. And then this other family moved in. He's kind of rich, like this is like one of their houses, which is kind of weird. But I think he works like high up in government or something like that. Or I don't know. Right. But like, my parents house is like, it's like, middle middle income, maybe middle middle to upper income. You know what I'm saying? All right. Ain't no mansion, but it's a nice house. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, anytime when my dad, my brother going after my brother and I left, would go and mow the yard, the guy would be out there and mow it two seconds later. Oh, God. And they thought that was so weird. And they're like, that's kind of weird. And then I guess the neighbor got so upset because he thought my dad was mowing into his yard. And he's like, I don't know. I'm just mowing right here. Like, it's weird. Why would you even complain if somebody's cutting your grass? Also, if you saw the side of their house, their side of the house is like, it's like, maybe 10 or 15 feet between the two houses. Not like it's a lot of land. It's like a little cut off maybe. And then I guess the guy was so pissed. He went and got like the people to measure like what's their house and what's ours. And it got flattened to paste because we didn't realize that we actually had more land than we thought. We actually have a little more and he had a little less. So my mom or my dad wasn't even mowing all of his land or area. You know what I'm saying? And so he thinks that really pisses them off. And then a couple months later, there's no grass on their side. It's just rock gravel and some bushes. It's so stupid. But they're not even there most of the time. And they're like, oh, him. Oh my God. But that made me laugh so hard. I was like, it would be your parents should have a fence in that area. Like a little bitty fence in that little flat. They're like, it's too funny. Um, I just love how they, he got so upset and he had some kind of measure it out and dad's like, well, it turns out our property is so much further than we thought. We have two feet more property than we thought. I mean, it's probably, I mean, it's not that much between the two houses. The houses are pretty close. Um, but it made me laugh so hard. And once I had like plants there, I wouldn't give a shit. I don't care if you want to cut it, cut it. If you, I think what got them to begin, they're like, actually my brother, Daniel knows that first when he would go over and help mow their lawn, he'd be like, every time I go out there, he comes out right after I finish. And he even tried something. He like did something stopped or he mowed it. The guy went out and mowed his thing. And Dan like went out and like re-mowed his little area. He's like, the guy came back out again. I was like, oh my God, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And so when he, my brother like pointed that out to my dad, they're like, this was years ago too. They're like, they're like, something's wrong with him. Like, I don't understand why he's all about his grass. People are there. It made me laugh so hard. One of my crazy neighbors I talked about earlier, he was like anal about his grass. And we were like, I know we don't care. Yeah. Because he didn't like how, um, the service that in my area does like mowed his grass. And we're very much like, we don't give a shit. Like, yeah, if it was us, we'd rather have clover that way. You never have to like cut it or anything, but exactly. I don't know. That's just, isn't that funny? I would just do things now to agitate him. Like put a statue there or something. No, my dad's like, no, that's good enough. It's fine. But that makes me laugh. Plus they're not even there half the time. Like I guess they got a place downtown too. I'm not quite sure. I think it's so weird when you have multiple houses very close to each other, unless you're here, unless he wants to like run for like a city council, which I don't think he is. So that doesn't make sense to me. Unless you're renting those properties to own separate properties and then like renting them out or whatever. Sure. That makes sense. But if you have two places that are literally 20 minutes apart. Yeah. And that's weird. That's just weird. But, um, let's go into some film recommendations. Yes. So obviously I'm going to suggest The Watcher on Netflix, even though I haven't watched it, I have heard like good reviews on it. I have too. Plus I loved Jennifer Coolidge. Right. And she, so, um, and Barbie Carnivali and Naomi Watts are in it too, I believe. So you have some good like actors and actresses in it. So that's, and plus that's based on my story with the Broaduses. And then Open House is another movie on Netflix, which the guy from 13 Reasons Why, one of the actors is in it. I picked, I haven't, I think I started it, but I never finished it, but it's basically a creepy house. Yeah. And I think it's more, I don't think it's so much supernatural as it is just, you know, other people around them. So that's why I put that in the mix. The Woman in the Window, that's Amy Adams and Gary Oldman and Julianne Moore. That's based off of a book, I think by the same title. Yes, I think it is. Um, I think that's also on Netflix. I haven't watched it, but I think she's like an agoraphobic. Yeah, she doesn't leave. She doesn't leave her. She's just like, she's just fixated on watching her neighbors. I also put The People Under the Stairs, which is a Wes Craven film from the early nineties. I just picked that because the house is in like a normal neighborhood and the story is actually this kid, I think a friend of his like sisters or something, they're going to break into this house to like take money because they hear there's a big score there. But really it's just this brother and sister that have all these like creepy like children that they keep in the basement. So it's just very creepy. And um, that film scared me as a child, but I put that in there. The Burbs. I love this film. It's from the eighties. It has Tom Hanks in it. Oh, yeah. Lord Bruce Dern. And it's so, so funny. It's just basically the suburb where there's one house that they're all like, just like, it's very creepy. And they're always questioning like what's going on in there. We want to know. They must, they have dead bodies. There has to be something that goes on. And it's so, it's just a very funny movie, but has mystery. And so recommend that one. Rear Window. That was my one. I got to see some Alfred Hitchcock in here. Tell me about Rear Window because I know that's one of your favorites. It's actually, I think it is my favorite Alfred Hitchcock film. So it's a very well, it has James Stewart and Grace Kelly in it. And basically James Stewart is a photographer, but he breaks his leg because he does all these adventure photography stuff. So he's stuck at home and doesn't have anything to do. So he peeps on his neighbors and it's really fun because you get to see everyone's life story. And then he sees this man, this woman have a argument and then the woman goes missing or he doesn't see her anymore. So he tries to figure out if the husband did it or not, not want to give too much away. But then Grace Kelly comes and like, helps, tries to help him solve it. I mean, they're dating and stuff. And it's a great Hitchcock film. Yeah. And has some great like filming in it too. And that's classic. I also have Disturbia. That's someone with Shia LaBeouf, which is actually like a Rear Window remake. Yeah. It's essentially like another Rear Window remake. Like on House Arrest or something. Yeah. I've heard it's Rear Window redone. Yeah. That's what it basically, and I think Shia LaBeouf is basically a teenager on House Arrest where he's watching his neighbor and he thinks something bad happens. Yeah. And then I put Fright Night on here, even though that is a vampire film from the eighties. It's very much the same. It's almost kind of like Vampires, but with a rear window. Yeah. Because the one, it's a teenager that's spying on his next door neighbor that moves in, you know, handsome guy who always has beautiful women come. And then he hears a scream one night and then he's like, I need to know what happened. And then you find, and then chaos ensues, but it's a good one. And then I also put Lakeview Terrace. I think I've seen part of this. And it has Samuel L. Jackson in it. It has Patrick Wilson, I believe, and Kerry Washington. Oh, wow. I've never heard of it. And it's from 2008. And it's basically a troubled and racist African-American LAPD officer will stop at nothing to force out a friendly interracial couple who just moved in next door to him. Oh, God. That's terrifying. Yeah. So this couple, you know, interracial, they just moved, bought their first new house, a dream home. And it's a Lakeview, it looks beautiful, the house. Yeah, a lovely craftsman. And then next door, they have a police officer neighbor who terrorizes them. So I think that's more like, kind of like a thriller, but yeah, it looks good. So I'm going to throw that in the ring too. Can we go ahead and just add, just because anytime we can add it, just say what we did in the shadows, because they're creepy neighbors. They are really, I think that's like, honestly, when they interact with their neighbors, it's so much fun. Yeah. And they're just like the normal, like, couple. And then they're always like, Oh, what does he call? He is my frog soldier, my sweet cheese, my good time boy. So good. They are the creepy neighbors. They, they themselves are the creepy neighbors trying to be normal and human. Yes. So I think also we would like to take this time to say that we're not going to have an episode come out next week because Halloween is a holiday here for two creepy ghouls in which we celebrate. So this is our 4th of July. This is our Thanksgiving, our New Year's Eve, New Year's Day. So we will not have an episode next week, but we will come back strong with another. But, and then we, of course, as always, we would like to thank you all for listening to us. And please give us a follow on Instagram to check out updates and cocktail recipes and topics. And when we have new episodes coming out, our handle is 2creepyghouls. You can find us on Instagram and I am going to beg, beg, beg, please leave us a rating wherever you receive your podcast, whether that's Apple or Spotify, that just really helps us and let us know how we're doing, what we can improve upon. And if you have topics that you want us to talk about, please, we're always open to that. Sounds terrific. Well, Rachel, with that said, GHOULS OUT!