Tim and Jerry Show 6 (August 1985)

Tim and Jerry are excited to reach Show 6 and have over 300 downloads. They share what they were doing in August 1985, including attending sports events and preparing for a drama production. The news from that month was filled with air disasters and political uprisings. Michael Jackson bought ATV Music, which included the Beatles catalog. Other news includes a unicyclist's trip across Australia and a young tennis player winning the US Open. The chart from 40 to 21 includes songs by orchestral manoeuvres in the dark. Hello, and welcome to Tim and Jerry Show 6. My name's Tim Quick. My name's Gerard Hunt. And you are most welcome. So, Show 6, August 1985. I think, I can't remember whether we agreed at the end of the show. No, I don't think we did agree at the end of the show. We did it offline, didn't we? We did it offline, yeah. We did it offline. Exciting. It is exciting. So, yes, we have made it to Show 6, and August 1985. And I can give you the news that we have gone, we've gone the other side of 300 downloads now as well. Oh, wow. Look at that. We are breaking new records. And we've got some exciting news that we will plug at the end of this podcast. Keep them waiting. It is. It is. It's proper exciting, actually. It's not just, you know, when some people tease, oh, you know, this is, this is exciting. Well, we think it is. We think it's exciting. But, you know, it's not kind of bedwettingly exciting. But it's kind of, it's still, it's still exciting in our world. And a few of you, I think, will find it exciting. But anyway, back to the, the, the, the, the job in question at the moment on this podcast. Tim and Jerry Show 6, August 1985. So, we generally start with what, what we were doing. Now, I think you and I had lost touch a little bit in 1985, hadn't we? We had, yeah. I think we lost touch, perhaps, you know, that, that year or maybe a little bit before. So, it really isn't what we were doing. It's what I was doing. Yeah, that's cool. I really don't know what you were doing. I don't care if I'm honest. I don't know, absolutely. So, my diary tells me what I was doing. So, just a few highlights from me from August 1985. Saturday the 3rd of August, I went to see Bath Tiki in Oxford, which was a pre-season finale. Tiki lost 3-0. Bath Tiki, by the way, a team I support and follow. Friday the 9th of August, Bath City 2 Bristol 0-0, another friendly. Saturday the 10th, I was a bit busy around here. I went to see Somerset against Northampton at Western Super Mare. Those of you who are old Somerset followers will remember that Somerset did indeed used to play at Western Super Mare and at Bath. And Ian Botham got 138 that day, smacking the ball all around Western Super Mare. On the 16th, 17th of August, I went somewhere that I'm going to talk about a little bit later. And then I went to the Lake District for a weekend on the 23rd of August for a couple of days with Nick Woodburn and Alan Wood. When I was listening, you know. I also went to the Landsman and Dibble wicket competition that day. On the 27th of August, I went to see Sir Hanson and Aston Villa with my friend Ted, who was a linesman, and my good, good friend Jeremy who lives in Marlborough. I was at school with him and we went to that. Just while I was doing generally, August 85, I was preparing along with a lot of other people for a drama production at St. Philip's Church in Bath called Rebel Summer. It had been done in 1971 and 73 and we did it again in 1985. So we were rehearsing for that. That took up a lot of time. I was playing a lot of social cricket in the week, doing a lot of running and preparing for the half-marathons. I did the New Forest half-marathon in September 1985, so I was preparing for that. And also football. I was playing Bath and District football, just starting that season. The first game I've got written down here is that we lost 13-1, which doesn't sound great. I played for a team called MIR Sports, which this Mickey Ian Rowlands was the guy who ran it, hence the name MIR Sports. So we lost 13-1 to Livingston Villa. Ouch! That's quite the, yeah. It is. But we did lose 2-1 to Obdan Rangers on the 31st of August, so that's not quite so bad. That's enough of what I was doing. Let's move on. Okay, and we've got the news from August 85, which is pretty much wall-to-wall misery. Yeah. So I'm not going to dwell too much on it, because actually it is, well, one of the key things, apparently it's defined, well, on all my Googling, other search systems are available, but all the Googling defines August 85 as the worst month ever for air disasters. It was pretty much, you really didn't want to be up in a plane in August 85, because there was more chance of it falling out of the sky than there was in any other month. So that one month alone witnessed more passenger and crew deaths on commercial airlines than any other month prior or since. It was a real wild card of a month. So obviously there are – it's extremely, extremely sad, but we'll mention them as they arrive. But Michael Jackson has bought ATV Music. Now, ATV Music probably doesn't mean a great deal to a lot of you. It's fundamentally – it includes every Beatles song. And he actually has seven blokes called McCartney. McCartney, yes. Which just seems bizarre, doesn't it? It's kind of like, yeah. Because they were friends. Yes. Because actually, I suppose they made friends again after, because what was things like Say, Say, Say? Was that after? No, that was before. I'm not sure they did make friends afterwards, because the two collaborations, or the few collaborations that were done on Jack's album and Paul McCartney's album were done in 82, 83. Oh, right. OK. I'm not sure they did. Well, it was $47 million that was the bill. So I guess ATV Music included more than every Beatles song, but it was fundamentally, to you and I and most of you listeners, it was the Beatles catalogue that he acquired by doing that. So August 12th, you've got 520 people die in a Japanese airline crashing in Japan. Like I say, I won't dwell too much on that, though the rest of the news is war to war misery. You've got a South African uprising. You've got political violence beginning after the funeral of Victoria. And I'm not even going to attempt to say the surname, primarily because it starts with an M and the second letter is an X. I don't know where you go with, kind of like when it's M-X, but it's M-X-E-N-G-E. What would you go with? Menge? Yes. I think if you didn't pronounce the X, it would be Menge. But I feel that the X would affect the pronunciation. But she was a civil rights lawyer who'd been assassinated and there was a bit of an uprising as a result over in South Africa. Somebody called Hans Spatterbeck from South Australia finished a trip on a unicycle from Western Australia to Melbourne. So he was on that unicycle for 51 days and travelled 3,875 miles. Must have some sore parts of his body. Absolutely. But I was desperately in search of some bit of news that was a little bit brighter than political uprisings and planes falling out of the sky. Mary Jo Fernandez, I'm guessing you're not going to cover US tennis, but Mary Jo Fernandez became the youngest player to win at the US tennis. She was 14 years and 8 days, which is, you know, when I sort of think that my Emily is 14, that's, you know, when you know somebody that's 14, that's kind of like just wow, isn't it? So yes, she won the US Open because the UK last a couple of years ago. What sort of age was she? Like 17, I think. Was she? Yeah. So yeah. But yeah, 14 years and 8 days was Mary Jo Fernandez. So included as far as the air disasters, we have one in the UK, the Manchester Airport disaster, British Air Tours flight 328 from Manchester to Corfu. Sadly, there was 55 fatalities in that one. August 85 also saw, I like lots of other people, like it's become sort of a modern day sensation kind of like crime podcasts and kind of like crime, you know, crime shows and kind of silent witness type stuff. But a very famous murder took place, or a series of murders, the White House Farm Murders. I don't know if you're, do you follow those sort of things? No, not familiar with them. It was a kind of like, it was a mother and father, a lady and two young children. It was the Bamber family, if you've ever heard of the Bambers. It was Neville and June Bamber and their daughter, Sheila and their two six year old boys. It was, and I think he still proclaims his innocence, but it was the adopted son, Jeremy Bamber that took the fall for it. But there's been, I think there's certainly been TV dramatizations of it, maybe even a film, the White House Farm Murders. But they took place August 85. You've got yet another air flight down. Delta Flight 191 crashed at Dallas-Forthwick Airport, killing 137. Somebody called Hans Tiedge, a top counter-spy in Germany, went from West Germany defecting to East Germany. Obviously, you'll remember that the wall was still up back then. Hasselhoff hadn't dragged it down. The Nigerian government is peacefully overthrown by Army Chief of State General Ibrahim Babaginda. The Japanese first astronauts were chosen. I've got some David Gower news, but I think I can see over the top of the table, David Gower is mentioned on one of your bits of paper, so I will leave that one. What have we got here? Have we got at the staff's mission report? I'm not going to cover that. The hang gliding record was broken. It was a desperate search for something kind of like cheerful. And whilst that in and of itself isn't particularly cheerful, the hang gliding record was broken, climbing up 4,343 metres in one flight. Sounds impressive. Sounds impressive, but neither of us have ever been anywhere now. I've been in a glider. I've flown a glider, but not that different. All the way up to hang gliding, you're at least surrounded by something in that. So that was the news from 1985. Shall we move on to the chart? Shall we move on to the chart? So the chart from 40 to 21. We better play our little bit of music. So 40 to 21. We've got, I would say that the top 20 is the better end of the chart, but you would expect that. You would expect that. It's a mixed bag in this lower area. Lots of recognised artists and I must admit, lots of songs that I kind of sort of think, don't know that. But at 40, we've got orchestral manoeuvres in the dark with Secret. Know the band, know lots of their hits. Yeah, C-O-M-D, about three or four times, and yeah, a lot of them, but yeah, that is one of their lesser known singles. Have you chatted to McCluskey after all this? I haven't, no. Because you are Mr. Stalker. I am, yeah. Oh, you're missing the trick there. 39, Mark Armand, formerly of Soft Cell, gone solo by this point and had a pretty successful solo career actually, didn't he? This was Stories of Johnny. Yeah, I don't remember that. No, I think he was going through a bit of a Scott Walker kind of period. He's covered a couple of songs. It's not a Scott song, but I think my memory has it as being like a Scott Walker-y type song, big ballad-y type song. 38, My Tie and Body and Soul. Yeah, that was their follow up to History, I think. Yes, yeah, History was the bigger hit. I don't remember what that was, but yeah. Yeah. 37, Dio, Rock and Roll Children. Philistines. Dio, Ron James Dio, ex-lead singer of, amongst others, Rainbow. Right. As I mentioned before, my friend and your friend Andy, who loves Rainbow. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Yes, that was Dio on his own. Rock and Roll Children was probably his most successful single, although it wasn't that successful. But yeah, he sang the vocals with Rainbow during the mid to late 70s, the first version of Rainbow. So albums like Rainbow Rising and normally Rock and Roll. Great singer. So he was, because I know it from Rob Bonnet, but he's, Rob Bonnet is the... Graham Bonnet. Graham Bonnet. Yeah. Who's Rob Bonnet then? I don't know, mate. Graham's brother, probably. Could be his brother, you never know. Clar Bonnet? Yeah, he's the Bonnet. Yeah, he's the Bonnet. Any other Bonnets in the family? Can we, can I do the laughter thing then? Because that was reasonably funny off the cuff. Thank you, laughter track. You know, off the cuff, you know, we don't write this rubbish down. It's kind of, you know, it is all off the cuff for this. Yeah, huge pedigree. Yeah, not your genre, I get that. Yeah, but no, it's like, you know, well, I liked the hits, the Rainbow hits, to be honest. I Surrender, was that, was I Surrender one of his or was that, that was Rob Bonnet's brother, Graham, yeah? Yeah. He's moved on from there. Right, okay. Right, I'm pleased to say at 36, I do know this song because it's a talking summer tune, Dan Hartman, I Can Dream About You. I love me yacht rock and I would put Dan Hartman, I Can Dream About You into, very much into the yacht rock genre, I guess is the word. I think it's that song that I have heard that it was actually written for Daryl Horne and John Oates. Yeah, I can believe that. Yeah, and I think it's also correct in saying that Daryl Horne and John Oates, when they were talking to each other years ago, actually recorded a version of that. So, but I think originally it was written with Daryl Horne in mind, so yeah. Yeah, you can definitely picture him singing it. 35, we've got the Pointer Sisters, Dare Me. The Pointer Sisters have had quite a few hits around there. Again, don't instantly recognise that one. Yeah, again, one of their lesser known hits, so things like Automatic, Jump For My Love, Fire and, you know, yeah, all far better known than this one, but yeah. But this may have been from a film, actually, if it was, I can't remember what it was, but yeah. Yeah, well, sort of around this time, lots of the songs, well, actually a lot of the songs in this chart were definitely, yeah, featuring in, talking about 80s films. And another one that leaves me scratching my head, 34, The Cool Notes with In Your Car. Yeah, leaves me scratching my head as well, move on. Yeah, and yeah, it doesn't get any better. I at least know the song, doesn't make it a good one. Denise LaSalle at 33 with My Toot Toot. Yeah, don't mess with my toot toot. Again, let's move on. Exactly, it's just one of those novelty songs that kind of, I think it got higher than 33 from what I can remember. 32, probably, again, more my sort of music than yours, actually, The Cult with She Sells Sanctuary. Quite like a bit of cult. Yeah, yeah, I think that was their biggest hit. Yes, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're sort of indie rock, really, aren't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, quite like a bit of cult. And then we've got an absolute corker, 31, Prince and the Revolution with Raspberry Beret. Yeah. What can you say about Prince? Sad, sad, sad lot. Yeah. That year that we lost so many icons. But, yeah. Yeah, I think 80s Prince is, you know, really fantastic. It's right through the 80s we've produced some absolutely outstanding music. If you don't know much about Prince, check out his 80s output first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, there's still, I think there's another album coming out this year. And let's face it, he's been gone... 10 years? Yeah, I was going to say 10 years plus, and they're still finding stuff that's enough to make an album. And whilst it's not up there with the great stuff, it's not ropey. It's okay. Right, we're into the top 30 now. Go West, Goodbye Girl. Again, not one of their big hits. They've had bigger, and Peter Cox is still out there doing his... He is, isn't he? He's still touring. Yeah. And I think recently, not that long ago, Go West were playing in Bath at the Forum with somebody like Paul Young or something like that. It was a bit of a double bill. Paul Young being the... The draw. Yeah, yeah. But Goodbye Girl, I think that was some of their debut album, Bangs and Crashes. And yeah, it was not, it wasn't a week later album. And it was a, no, and it was a, it was off one of the Rocky albums as well. So it was again, going back to what we were saying about a bit appearing in films. I think it was in, it was either Rocky 3 or 4. I'm going to pin me, pin my tail on 4. Okay. Because I'm a bit geeky about that sort of thing. But it kind of, yeah, it's an okay song, but a little bit slower than the other ones that they've done. Like you say, that was all your, we close your eyes, that kind of caper. And they, certainly I saw the other day, there's a, Our Friends, Our Friends the Fizz. Formerly Bucks Fizz. Yeah. And they're out on the road at the moment with a kind of like an 80s legends sort of set up and Toxie from Go West is doing that gig as well. So yeah. So that was at the, number 29, again, probably one for you here. Total Contrast with Takes a Little Time. No idea. Mean anything to you? Absolutely did lead to me. So hopefully it was one of those that came in and went back out again. Gary Moore, love a bit of Gary Moore. Empty Rooms at 29. Yeah. Great. Love Gary Moore. Great song. I guess he first came to my attention with, along with Phil Lynott, who again, you know, he's had a mention, albeit in the form of Thin Lizzy on the first five shows. Gary Moore, of course, was in Thin Lizzy. Yes. Loved his work with Thin Lizzy. But yeah, also the solo artist. Love his blues stuff. Still got the Blues for You, that sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, great song. And then we've got, at the risk of reopening a wound from a few weeks ago, but obviously gives us our, where are we? 20 minutes in, a reason to mention Pickle. Yeah. We've got The Boss. We've got Mr. Bruce Springsteen with Glory Days. That was the 75th single from Born in the USA, I believe. Yes. It was a little bit. It was great. It was a great tune, man. A great summer tune. It's a great Springsteen album. Yeah, it's just, it's quite commercial. So, but yeah, got a lot of singles on that. But yeah, it came from Born in the USA, which was released the previous year, I think, in 84. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I must have seen him around about, because I was, I saw The Boss at the week before Live Aid. What year was Live Aid? 85. 85. Oh, well, there you go. So he was definitely, because do you know what month that was in? So we're not in the month of Live Aid. We're all good, aren't we? No, that was July 85. July 85. So it was, yeah. So obviously, he was riding high from touring the UK then. So that was 27 Bruce Springsteen Glory Days. At 26, you got Five Star with Let Me Be The One. Yeah, not one of their most memorable, was it? No. That was one of their earlier, earlier hits before they came on. Things like Find the Time and Rain or Shine, which was, I think, in 86. So yeah, they were just another family sort of base group, the Pearsons. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, I guess, they, at least a few of them are probably still out doing the circuit now. I think Denise is still out doing the circuit. That's Denise Pearson from Five Star. Yeah. There's a lot of them I know now. Oh, exactly, yeah. But they kind of, yeah, one person from the band is still kind of out there trying to keep the dream alive. So that was number 26. 25, Phil Collins. Ever heard of Phil Collins? You're letting me down this week. You haven't got a Phil Collins or Genesis or any kind of t-shirt relating to Phil. But Take Me Home, quite a long, it's quite a long song, though, isn't it? It is, yeah. It's from No Jacket Required, which for me is one of his best albums released that year. It also, I think, features Peter Gabriel on backing vocals. What I thought was quite strange to me was the singles from that album were actually not my favourite tracks on the album. So there's stuff like Sicilio and Take Me Home, and there were some far better songs on the album, in my opinion, than the ones that were released as singles. I think it's one of those albums where genuinely you could pretty much release anything. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think it was all... You're getting wrong at that point in time. Yeah. He was everywhere, both sides of the Atlantic and stuff. But no, I love Phil Collins and Genesis, so yeah, I was happy to see that But he was riding high at that moment in time. 24, Trans X, with Living On Video. Yeah, One Hit Wonder, I think. Yeah, I think I can picture it, but I can't. Yeah, I'm sure it was a One Hit Wonder. But I think it did scrape the top ten, there or thereabouts. Right, okay. 23, I did like to produce some cracking songs. Jackie Graham, Round and Around, this particular one. She kind of went on and had kind of a, probably almost more famous for being a double act with David Grant. Probably the bigger hits were with David. Yeah, We Are Falling In Love was with David Grant that year. Yeah, and David Grant is probably kind of like, for those of you that kind of like, can remember David Grant, he featured quite a lot over the last kind of 10, 15 years. If ever there was a show with requiring a kind of music vocalist and whatever, him and his wife, whose name goes completely out of my head. But she's got very red hair. Carrie Grant. Carrie Grant, that's her, Carrie Grant. Strangely. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, they're often kind of like the musical vocalist kind of brought in. I think they might have done a bit of X Factor at one point. Can I surprise you here? Yeah, go on. You've met them and talked to them. I've met them last summer and talked to them. Did you? God. And David Grant said he is going back on the road and touring and he's doing, I think, some of those 80s shows that you talked about and referred to. Both really, really nice people. They've been doing a lot of work with regard to young people at their home. Their home's been opened up, I think, and made into kind of a hostel. And yeah, David Grant released a lot of singles in the early 80s on his own, but also, of course, with a band that you and I absolutely love, which is Lynx. But yeah, he's touring out this year as part of the 80s kind of, you know, carnival. But really, really nice guy. And she, Carrie's not a well lady, is she? She's got something. I'm sure I watched some shows that she's got. Yeah, I think she, I don't know whether she's still, whatever it was, she's still got that. But she looked absolutely fine. She seemed absolutely fine. But yeah, two lovely people. Yeah, good, good, good, good. And you were right to stalk them. Absolutely. 22, D-Train with You're The One For Me. I think that's just a kind of disco number, isn't it? But kind of like, again, a little bit one-hit-wondery. And Match, Madonna, Crazy For You. I like Madonna's slower ones. And this was one of the slower ones. I like a lot of any Madonna, really. Even the really recent stuff. Yeah. I like that. That, I think, was on a re-release. Yeah. I think it was released in 84. And it was also released again in the early 90s. So it's a great song. And yeah, lots of people love that. And I think it was a big hit two or three times. It was a ballady. You know, she did a kind of out-and-out disco song. And this was kind of like the ballady. So yeah, favourite Madonna song? Probably either Borderline or Dear Jesse. Oh, right. Dear Jesse was Christmas 89. But either Borderline or Dear Jesse. Yeah. What about you? This used to be my playground. And it lived to tell. I was definitely, I was kind of like the slower end, the more ballady end of the market. So that was 40 through to 21. We have got Madonna appearing, I'm guessing, kind of like Crazy Few is probably on its way down with, we've got another one in the top 20. Correct. So we will see what that one is when we come to it. But that was the singles chart. We've also got the album chart. We introduced the album chart last week. And if I go through kind of like 10 up to number one, you've got the extra special treat of, you've actually got the CD there of the number one. So we will cover that off in a moment. But going kind of 10 through to one, because again, this is a stellar, stellar top 10 as far as the album is concerned. Number 10, you've got Tina Turner, Private Dancer. That one. Again, pretty much every track could have been a single. And I think there was a hell of a lot of singles that were from it. Yeah. Featuring Martin Offer, I think, on guitar. Yeah. And Glenn Gregory from Heaven 17. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And I guess I think Private Dancer is just such a classy, classy track. Yeah. Number nine, the Kenny Rogers Story. I love a bit of Kenny, but I don't really know what the Kenny Rogers Story album was. I've gone back to the New Edition days as well. Yeah. Kenny Gardner and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Number eight, Be Yourself Tonight by the Eurythmics. Yeah. That had already peaked. It was sort of on its way back down. And a massive guilty pleasure of ours at number seven, Tears for Fears, Local Boys. Local Boys, yeah. Roland and Kurt, Songs for the Big Chair. Great album. It is. Yeah. Again, a load of banging singles that came from that album. Not a bad track at all on the album. No, absolutely. Probably the biggest hits from that album being... Everyone Wants to Rule The World. Yeah. Flying Head Over Heels. Yeah. Yeah. I Believe as well. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's my favourite Tears for Fears album, I have to say. Yeah. There's a really good documentary, if you've got Sky, where they... There's a documentary on Sky Arts, I think, where they talk about the making of it. And they interview Roland and Kurt and the various producers of it. You don't need to look up Sky Arts. Sky Arts is on Preview. Is it? Yeah. Is it? Oh, there you go. There you can find it. I should look for it. Yeah. Even better. Number six, Madonna. The album being Madonna, I guess... This is early Madonna, isn't it? Yeah. So it's become like the holiday borderline period, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. It was at number six and it peaked at number six, but it had already had 28 weeks already. So it had been in the chart for a heck of a long time. We've already mentioned him. Number five, Born in the USA, Mr. Bruce Springsteen, the boss. And again, we've already mentioned Phil Collins at number four, No Jacket Required. Again, like we say, both of those albums heavily mined for singles. Yeah, yeah. They were both probably peak commercial sales at that point. Springsteen's biggest selling album, I think, probably. Yeah. I don't know for sure. I would have thought so. I would have thought so. And when I saw him, he opened with Born in the USA, the iconic shot of him turn back to the audience and whatever. Number three, it just shows what a stellar, kind of like top ten this is. Number three, Brothers in Arms, Dire Straits. Again, probably their biggest... Yeah. Their biggest... Not the best, in my opinion. No, but... Definitely their biggest album. I mean, I saw them in 85. Saw them up at the NEC in Birmingham. Oh, right. Yeah. Talked to him afterwards? No. Did you not? No, he refused. I was quite disappointed about it. You carted off. Yeah. Yeah. One to my mate, Rob Tiley. Right. Yeah, nothing chipping him. Yeah. So, yeah. No, it's a good album. Really good album. Lots of singles again. Maybe it was a year of singles, 85. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, So Far Away, Why Worry, Your Latest Trick. Nothing. Twisted by the tour? No. No? No. Okay. 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