Tim and Jerry Show 3 (July 1982)

In July 1982, Tim and Jer discuss their activities. Tim completed a marathon, while Jer did half-marathons. They also attended the first WOMAD festival, where Peter Gabriel was the headliner. They reminisce about the event and their experiences. They also mention other activities like clock golf and golfing at the approach course. Jer went to the Brands Hatch racing event and the Yeovilton air display. Hello and a very warm welcome to Tim and Jerry, show number three, we've made it to show number three Jack. That's amazing. It's impressive isn't it? It is, yeah. So it's a hello, what shall we say, because I think it's a case of people listen to this, some of the people in the morning, some in the afternoon and some in the evening, so we'll do the Truman Show bit of good morning, good afternoon, good evening to everybody. It's a hello from me Tim and a hello from me Jack. And this week we're looking at July 1982. For those people that listen to show one and two, we changed the format after show number one where we'd originally planned to take each month in sequence, but we realised that that wasn't necessarily the greatest of ideas, so we've altered the format for show two and we've jumped forward a couple of years, last week we looked at 78 was it? May 78. May 78. And this month, or this week rather, we've jumped forward to July 82, so July 82 Jer, this we're into the kind of like the territory of certainly music that you are, this is your musical era really isn't it? It really is, yeah, right through the 80s really, but more the early 80s than the later 80s, yeah. So let's get straight into what were we doing in July 82? Okay, consulting with the diary, I was quite busy in July 82, I'd started my first job in Bath around 12, 13 months previously, a bit more than that actually, the previous February, so I was working, so that took up a lot of my day times, but just noticed that two people that you and I tend to spend rather a lot of time with in July 82 were Dave, Dave in Wales, Dave Pickles, that's Dave. Other people have pointed out, we give Dave way too many name checks, so apologies, within two minutes of starting this, he's had another one, so apologies to everybody else in our gang that we're giving Pickles so many soundbites. But he was it in our lives at that point, and he still is, so a bit of a reward for that day, and also Wendy, Wendy was looming large in our lives at that point, and you still live next door to him? My next door neighbour, Wendy, yeah, absolutely. We're still in touch with Wendy, she's on our group, so hopefully she may listen to this, and that's a big call out for Wendy. So yeah, what were we doing? Well, it was similar in many ways, but not similar in other ways. We used to go jogging, you might not remember that, look at us both now, you know you won't believe it. Well no, but actually in 1982, I completed a marathon. Wow. See, you'd entirely forgotten about that, I've only ever completed one marathon in my life, I've completed a couple of half-marathons, but I completed what was actually the first ever Bristol marathon, and that was before marathons were really, well obviously marathons started with the Greeks I think, and you and I were more familiar with eating the bars marathon than actually running them, latter day, what's called snickers to those kids listening. But yeah, now I completed the first ever Bristol one, which I did with Dave Buck, let's give another call to Dave Buck. Dave Buck. Hi Dave, how you doing? So yeah, him and me did the very first ever Bristol one, but like I say, that was before there was ever a London marathon, and whatever, and it's gone on to be, obviously marathons are a massive thing now, but back then it felt like a handful of people did it, it wasn't that much of a thing, there wasn't that many people watching or anything like that, it was a... I did some Bath halves in the mid-80s, that was when I was vaguely fit, so maybe that sort of followed on from what we were doing here in 82, but yeah, went jogging with Tim Donner quite a bit, so that obviously led to your marathon, and perhaps was a forerunner to my half-marathons in Bath in the mid-80s, I did about four I think, 142 was my quickest, which I'm told is okay for somebody who's not a runner. To be honest, it was all about finishing for me, the time I achieved, they were never impressive, I can tell you that. But you did it, didn't you? Absolutely, it's about completing it, yeah. No one can take that away, you did it, well done. Right, yeah, so moving on, I had a bit of a weekend in the middle of July 82, and I shared the first night of it with you, on the 16th of July, Friday the 16th, you and I, and two other friends of mine, one called Rob, who's still about, he lives in Chippenham, and another one called Wayland, who I don't know if he's still around, but I don't know where he is, if he is, went to the Bath and West Showground, and we went to see the very first WOMAD festival. Oh right, was that, Gabriel must have been there, I think. Peter Gabriel was the headliner, because Peter Gabriel organised it, but there were quite a few other acts that you may or may not have heard of, that were on the bill, just looking at the CD that I got not that long ago actually, at Pigbag were on there. Oh right, Papa's Got a Brand New. Papa's Got a Brand New, the beat, Peter Gabriel of course, obviously, and Robert Fripp was there. Yeah, married to Chloe Wilcox now. Indeed, yeah, Robert Fripp with King Crimson fame, and Peter Havell, and also Simple Minds, who are massive these days. Absolutely, I remember at the time, I think we were impressed at the time, but they were nothing at that moment in time. Their hit that summer was Promised You A Miracle, which was their big early hit, but yeah, we saw this at the Bath and West Showground on the 16th of July 1982, and what happened was that it was a bit of a disaster financially, and Peter Gabriel lost a lot of money on it, and so what happened was that Peter Gabriel got his old band back together, what are they called Tim? I've forgotten. Oh, is it relative to the t-shirt? I think it might be. I have to be wearing it. Yeah, I believe it's the first book of the Bible. It is, yeah. He got Genesis back together, and they did a one-off concert in Milton Keynes in the October, just to raise some money to pay off these debts, and I think, from what I gather, it did that very successfully. I applied for tickets for that, but I didn't get it. So that was the very first WOMAD festival, and that was July 1982. WOMAD stands for? It's Music and Dance. World of Music and Dance. That's right, and it's still going today, and I think it's still relatively local. I think that Malmsbury is where it has been recently. I'm not sure whether it's got a permanent site there. I remember years ago I went to a WOMAD festival in front of the Royal Crescent. Right, okay. It's been a West Country thing, as far as I'm aware, and Malmsbury is definitely the place that I've seen it most recently. But you and I were there at the very first WOMAD. We were there. We were there. Good old Shepton Mallard. Absolutely. I can remember. Is memory playing up? Did we get A, stuck in the car park, or B, have real problems getting or refinding the car? Do you know what? You could be right on both of those. I can't remember, but I do know I drove, and I would have driven my dad's car. Yeah. I passed my test in April of 82. I didn't get a car for a few years after that, so my diary tells me that I drove there and back, so yeah, we would have been using my dad's car, which would have been a Viva or a Cavalier. Yeah. He was a Vauxhall man. I can remember the car park not being lit in any way. Yeah, that's wrong. The part of my show ground is, back then, the car park was just effectively a big field. Yeah. But it was a number of big fields. It still is. It still is. Yeah. But it was a very unlit. Yes, it was. And yeah, you couldn't do fancy things like kind of press a button on your key fob, and your car would light up and things like that, so I seem to remember it was very wet, very muddy, and yeah, not the greatest end of the evening. No. So yeah, we got the bed at 2.15, by the way. It's sad to know that, but we did. Is that right? Anyway. Given that it was quite a local gig. Yeah, I don't think we got the bed together, but I certainly got the bed at 2.15. No, I think that would have mentally scarred me. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I'd still be in therapy these days about that. Indeed. Indeed. And then the following day, this didn't involve you, it just involved me, and I'll be talking about this in a little bit more detail later. I went to some place in Kent called Brands Hatch. I believe. I believe some racing goes on there, yeah. Some sort of car, something to do with cars going on there. And that took up the whole weekend. So that was Saturday and Sunday. So I had a bit of a weekend in the middle of July. I think it was that Grand Prix you were going to. It was, yeah. The British Grand Prix. Yeah, absolutely. Other things that I can see we were doing, there isn't any choir practice. Whether we'd left the choir at that point, I don't know. I think given that Dad was the choir master, I probably wasn't allowed to have left by that point. It certainly wasn't there. It was my... I started work back then, so maybe we were taking off at that point. Oh, okay. And the youth group had told you by then. Yeah. The youth group that we used to attend in Bath, called the Go Club, that finished in 81, July 81, so that had gone. So, yeah. But we did, or I did, I think you were there as well at some point, we did quite a bit of clock golf and also golf at the approach course. Oh, right, yeah. That was a bit of fun. With a friend of ours called Alan. Who used to play a lot of golf, and I think, I seem to remember I did beat him rather a lot, and he wasn't very happy about it. Oh, right. I know he's listened to one of these, because he reached out. Hello, mate, if you are listening. Whether he made it to two, I don't know, but he definitely listened to the first one. No, no, I'm not sure. The last day in July, again, it was a me thing, not a you thing, but I went to the Yobleton air display, which was the name would suggest is at Yobleton. Don't remember too much about it, but I do remember being quite impressed with what was going on in the air. But, yeah, I went with mum and dad and some neighbours, and that was a good day out. I seem to remember it being quite warm, but then, was 1982 summer warm? I remember it as that, but who knows. By the way, I do tend to note in my diary when it is really hot, and Sunday the 18th of July was really hot, apparently, according to my diary. Right. So, but that was the day that I was at this thing with racing, with cars and stuff going on in Kent. There you go. Nice. So, yeah, that's a little bit of a flavour of what we were doing. As I say, my working days were taken up with work. I was working in an architect's office in Bath. It was quite a large one at the time. And the evenings were, you know, they were quite relaxed, and Dave, Wendy and Alan and people like that were all quite large in our lives at that point. So the gang was still together. Absolutely. It was just we weren't part of the club anymore. No, no, we were not in the club. No. And like I say, I'd started work as well. Yes, you would? Yes, absolutely. In Keynsham branch. Wow. Lloyd's Bank in Keynsham. As I say, I think every single branch that I work in no longer exists. They've all gone, haven't they? Yeah, pretty much, yeah. But certainly all the branches that I ever worked in, I don't think it's relative to the fact that I worked in them. You're sure? To close them down, no. But I think they're pretty much to a man. They're all successful. And I think it's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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