The Departed

The hosts of the podcast, Sibling Tumor, discuss various films from 2006. They mention the movies "The Departed," "Little Miss Sunshine," "The Queen," "Letters from Iwo Jima," and "Babel." They share their thoughts on each film and discuss their familiarity with the directors and actors involved. Overall, they feel that 2006 was not a great year for movies. Hi, welcome to Sibling Tumor. I'm Dennis. I'm Bonnie. And we are here counting down the best contributors from worst to best, and we are all the way up to number 27. So Bonnie, in your best Boston accent, what baby are we talking about today? I don't know if you need a Boston accent for the departed. That's not even a good Boston accent. We're doing the departed. As my parents would say it, they'd say the depotted. Yeah. Yeah, our parents are both from Boston. They'd say, Bonnie, have you seen the depotted? Yes, I don't know if they've seen it. Anyway, what's your history with the depotted? None, yeah. I did not know what it was about. Maybe I've heard of it. I don't know. I've heard of the term. People depart. Sometimes they're here and sometimes they're gone. Yes. But I knew nothing about it. I think I guessed. A sort of thriller. Yeah, I think of a ghost story. A ghost story. Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay. Yeah. It's not a ghost story. It's a thriller. It is a thriller. Yeah. Yeah. So I had no... And here's my question for you. Is this the first Martin Scorsese film that I've seen? I didn't even realize it was until the very end. Yeah, well, Martin Scorsese directed it. Yes. In our Million Dollar Baby podcast, as I remember it, when we talked about the aviator, you weren't sure whether you thought you may have seen it. That's a Martin Scorsese movie. The aviator is about a famous person. Yes, Howard Hughes, played by Leonardo DiCaprio. I feel like I might have seen that. I don't know. Okay, so that's Martin Scorsese. Yeah, maybe. I don't know what else you would have seen. Age of Innocence. No. There's some of the Edith Wharton novel. You haven't seen Silence, right? No. Yeah, I don't know. I think that probably only would be the aviator. Maybe Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. No. It's a... It was a 74 movie that was made into a sitcom, though. Alice. Do you remember Alice? Yes. The diner. I knew Alice. Yeah, it's based on the movie, Martin Scorsese. But now? Yeah. I used to watch Alice. Yeah. Okay. That's based on... It's based on Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. Oh, well... Played by Ellen Burstyn in the movie, and Linda Laban in the TV series. I have now seen, for sure, a Martin Scorsese film in The Departed, which I watched last night. Okay. In its entirety. No, but on our biggest screen. Okay. Great. Have you ever seen Little Miss Sunshine? No. Okay. Well, it's one of the losers. Okay. It was a surprise hit indie comedy about kind of an oddball family. Abigail Breslin plays this seven or eight year old girl who becomes obsessed with being in the Little Miss Sunshine pageant. Okay. Maybe it's in California. They're from Albuquerque, and so this very oddball family makes a road trip in her rundown van to bring this girl to compete in her talent or her pageant contest. Okay. So her parents are played by Greg Kinnear and Tony Koletz. Okay. Her older brother is played by Paul Dano, who we saw in Twelve Years a Slave. He's several years older and very racist in that movie. Oh, okay. He's the one who tries to lynch... Yeah. Very different character here. He's kind of the emo older brother. Right. Steve Carell plays the depressed uncle. That even sounds funny. Yeah. The depressed Steve Carell. Okay. Yes. And Alan Arkin, who we saw in Argo, plays the grandfather. Yeah, I think he'd enjoy this. Okay. But it was a big hit, and I scored a Best Picture nomination. Good for Little Miss Sunshine. Yes. Ever seen The Queen? No. Okay. But it stars Helen Mirren as Elizabeth II. She recently passed. I don't know if you knew that. Yeah, that was big news. Yeah. Is it good? I've seen The Crown. Yeah. Yeah, this is a good movie. I've been seeing it since 2006. I'm not sure if I go back to it how much it would feel like an episode of The Crown. Right. But this takes place following the death of Princess Diana, and it's about kind of her coping with that public relations crisis where she kind of has this very stiff upper lip demeanor. That's how she presents herself, and the nation really needs more emotion. I don't think it's probably going to be covered in the next season of The Crown. It might be worth watching. Yeah, it's interesting. I haven't seen it since watching The Crown, but from what I remember about it, it's kind of similar to... I think there's a really great episode in maybe, I think, the first season of The Crown where it kind of deals with that similar type of conflict in terms of a disaster. Oh, I love that. Remember with the town? The little town, the school children get buried. I really like that episode. That was a great episode, but it just kind of deals with like, okay, I'm not going to publicly emote, but the nation kind of needs it. Yeah. But at any rate, Helen Mirren was really phenomenal as the Queen. I don't know this movie either. Yeah, this is Letters from Iwo Jima, a World War II movie. This is directed by Clint Eastwood. This is from the point of the Japanese? Yeah. Interesting. So following his Oscar win from Million Dollar Baby, Clint Eastwood made these two movies on Iwo Jima. He filmed them back to back, one from the American perspective, that's called Flags from Our Fathers, and it's really about the servicemen who were part of that famous photo of raising the flag on Iwo Jima. And then this one is told from the Japanese perspective. The movie's almost entirely in Japanese. Not sure how Clint Eastwood directed it, but he did. I mean, the actors, I'm sure, all speak English. Probably directed them in English. I guess that was a good take. I have no idea what you're saying. At any rate, they both came out in 2006. This one was probably a better received one. What both came out? Flags of Our Fathers and Letters from Iwo Jima. So Clint Eastwood made two movies back to back. Flags of Our Fathers was also a book? I don't know much about it. I actually haven't seen Flags from Our Fathers. Okay, I haven't either. Yeah, I did see Letters from Iwo Jima a long time ago. I've never seen it. And then finally we have Babel, which was probably the frontrunner. This is an ensemble drama directed by Alejandro Inhabitu. Really? Does that name sound familiar to you? No. He directed Birdman. Oh, I've seen Birdman. Yeah, he was actually an acclaimed Mexican director. He went on to win Best to Best, I'm sorry, Back to Back Best Director Oscars for Birdman and The Revenant in 2014 and 2015. The Revenant? The Revenant. The Revenant? Yeah, he won Best Director, but it lost Best Picture to Spotlight. Whoa. Yeah. Okay. So we've talked about both. Well, we talked about The Revenant in our Spotlight episode. Okay. And we talked about Birdman. This has several different storylines and it's kind of these intersecting dramas from all across the world. And it's kind of about how a one freak event in Morocco kind of resonates and affects people across the globe. Interesting. It is interesting. The title is a kind of a reference to how people struggle to communicate with each other. There's a book from a Bible, I don't know if you've heard of it, called Babel. Genesis is one about Adam and Eve. No, I'm just joking around. The Tower of Babel is about not communicating, right? Yeah. Build a building and then God says you need to speak different languages. Yeah. Genesis 11 maybe? This is about where it is. Yeah. 10-11. Yeah. I don't have a Bible here. It's in my house somewhere. I don't have it. Okay. But somewhere in there. Yeah. It is after Ark. Yeah. So it probably is 10-11 because Ark is chapters 6-9. So yeah, probably chapters 10-11. Before Abraham. Yes. Which starts mostly chapter 12. Although we do see Abraham a little bit at the very end of chapter 11. Oh, it's like a post-credit scene. Or pre-credit scene. Yeah. So, Cate Blanchett and Brad Pitt play this American middle-class couple on vacation in Morocco. There's a storyline involving the Mexican housekeeper who's taking care of their kids. There's a story in Japan, one in Tijuana. Yeah. So the picture down below is the housekeeper with their two kids? Yes. Got it. Yeah. I did not like it when it came out. For a while, this was like the frontrunner, the one that's going to win. And I was really kind of rooting against it. I watched it again this week. And for most of it, I was like, oh, I was way off base. This is a pretty good movie. And it does get kind of overly dramatic and presses its case a little far. Especially the Japanese story, when we find out how it's connected, it's like, okay, well, that's kind of silly. I think you could have toned it down a bit in terms of the hyperbole. Not an endearing silly. No, definitely not an endearing silly. Okay, so babble. Yeah, see it if you feel like it. If you feel like it, but we'd probably enjoy a little of my sunshine more. Yeah. I would think. I didn't add babble to my list. Of course, my phone might have added it to the list. I mean, you'd like to clean more, but there's no point in the sound of music to watch. Yeah, it's like 2006, really not a great year for movies. So if I'm being honest, there are some that stand out. The big box office movies, you know, you have the Pirates of the Caribbean sequel, Night at the Museum, X-Men. Is that the sequel? Or are there more than one Night at the Museum? Is that the Adam Sandler? No, it's Ben Stiller. I always get them confused. Yeah, well, they're different human beings. I know, but I don't know why I confuse them. Two actors with brown hair that are funny. And they're both Jewish. I didn't know that. How do you know they're Jewish? Because they are. I just told them. They might be Italian. But they're not. I know their biographies. First of all, his father is Jerry Stiller. George Costanza's father. Yes, so good. Is he Jewish? Yes. Not in the show. Is his mother Mera? Yeah, she's from Dick Van Dyke. No, no, no. She wasn't on the Dick Van Dyke show. They just had like a routine together, they were comics. Who was the female writer? It was Anne Murray? Anne Mera. No relation to Ben Stiller. Okay, no relation. Does she have red hair? No, no, no. Okay, I don't know what I'm talking about. Was it Rosemarie? Rosemarie. Yeah, Rosemarie. She was funny. Yeah, very funny. Yeah, so really not a great year. Even Cars is not one of your favorite Pixar movies. Yeah, Cars is certainly not a bad movie. But if you look at Pixar in this decade, in the 2000 aughts, I mean, Pixar made, before this, The Incredibles, Finding Nemo, and Monsters, Inc. And after this was Up, Lolli, and Ratatouille. So really good. Ratatouille. What? Ratatouille. That's what I said. Ratatouille. That was just in something we watched. Yeah. Everything, everywhere, all at once. Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm like, what? Casino Royale, I say. No, that is good. That was rebooted, the James Bond franchise with Daniel Craig. Oh, yeah, I really like the Daniel Craig James Bond. Yeah, I definitely like Casino Royale. Oh, they got Talladega Nights. That was a funny movie. I've never seen that. Oh, it's so funny. Mission Impossible 3? Yeah. Where do you write? Oh, The Departed came in just under Mission Impossible 3. Yeah. So made good money, but not, barely made the top 15. The Devil Wears Prada was way down at 17. It's so big hit. I mean, yeah, it's such a good movie. Wow, that never got, wait a minute. Here, I'll take this. This is Juliana. Hello. Hi, Juliana. You're on the air. Hi. Still on the air. You're on the air with Sibling Cinema. Hi. We were just talking about 2006. Do you have anything to say about The Departed? Oh, 2006? Yes. I was eight. You better watch The Departed at eight. I'm so sorry, if you have nothing to add, I'll need to talk to you later. That's just how people treat the youngest. It's awful. I know, Dennis is always taking your side. Oh, thank you. You're welcome. Come back. Okay, bye. Bye. Bye. That was Juliana? Yeah. Should I keep that in? Yeah, why not? We'll have her on the pod sometime. Yeah. She's in Florida. Okay. Do you have any Florida movies? What's that? Godfather Part 2. Or a Coast Guard movie. We could re-watch Koda. Is that a Coast Guard movie? Oh, yes, it is. It's great. Yeah, she actually has stuff to say about that. Okay, well, let's see. If you watch Koda after midnight cowboy, you'd be like, oh, that's a relief. I know. That's true. Anyway, Sarah, what's The Departed about? Wow. The Departed, it's this movie about two young men who become cops, right? Yes. And... In Boston. In Boston, yes. And they, so they're both like, it's almost like they're both like double agents, but working. So one is the good cop playing the bad guy, and one is the bad guy playing the good cop. Right. And so it's this kind of thriller to see who's going to find out whose identity by the end. Yeah. And it's violent in parts. At the beginning, it's more violent. And then it's, most of the violence is at the beginning. Yeah, there's some... There's some scenes where I have to... Yeah, me too. Jack Nicholson plays, just a great Jack Nicholson character. He plays the mob boss, bad guy that's kind of at the center of this. Really good guy, yeah. Yeah. And that's, let's see, Martin Sheen is in it. Yeah. Martin Short, two very different characters. Two very different characters, yes. Martin Sheen is in it. Alec Baldwin with the terrible Boston accent. You thought it was terrible? It was, it was terrible. Isn't he from Boston? Is he from Boston? I thought so. His was such a Kennedy one. You're forgetting an actor who definitely is from Boston. He is from New York. Come on now. Matt Damon, yeah. Oh, Matt Damon's from Boston, yes. Matt Damon. Leonardo DiCaprio's not from Boston. No, he's not. Oh, Marky Mark. Yes. Marky Mark, yes. He's definitely from Boston. You do have two Boston guys there, Mark Wahlberg and Matt Damon. Yeah. Are the two Boston guys. Definitely. Where's Martin Sheen from? He's not Irish. I don't know, but it doesn't matter. They're actors. They're actors. They can be from wherever. Yeah, they can be from anywhere. Yeah. So that's what The Departed is about. Yeah. This may or may not be my first Martin Scorsese movie. Okay. This is definitely a movie I would have never watched were it not for this. Right. And I really liked it. Oh, good. Yeah. It took a while, you know, I almost quit at the hand. Oh my gosh, that was so funny. Oh, yeah, when he had the hand in the bag, almost. But that was like the end of sort of all the scenes I had to. And then from that point on, I'm just like, I have no idea what's going to happen. No idea what's going to happen. Yeah. So for me, it was a real thriller. The first time I was ever like rooting for Leonardo DiCaprio over Matt Damon. Oh, yeah, definitely. I would have always been the other way around, but yeah. So anyway, I was really caught up in it. Yeah. I really, I've always enjoyed it. It's kind of a jam. I just, it was a really exciting movie. I just kind of really love getting like kind of getting into like that intricacy of this world of deception. Yeah. Everybody is just, it's just such a fascinating conflict because the one thing that Billy wants, Billy Costigan, Leonardo DiCaprio's character, is his identity. You know, what he's searching for is getting out of this world of fraud and into what's authentic. Yeah. And you have in contrast this Matt Damon character whose ideals are symbolized by like the Golden Dome. He's like kind of serving mammon. Right. He's using this world of deception to kind of get what he wants. Right. And it's kind of this fascinating interplay. And then you also have the costar deceiving and Jack Nicholson's character is also, we're going to be talking about spoilers here. Yeah. And there are a lot of spoilers. A lot of spoilers. It's a very complicated plot. It's a hard one to talk about without giving away, you know, major things. Go watch The Departed and then. Yeah. Yeah, I mean Jack Nicholson is not just this evil character. He's also an FBI informant himself. Right. Which comes out at different points to both of these characters. Right. I really like how Matt Damon's character is, he's not played like a villain even though he is kind of the antagonist to the guy that we like. In that you can see how he's like really charming but he's also, he's kind of corrupted because he's actually been groomed from childhood by Jack Nicholson to be in this world. Right. And he does have this kind of Matt Damon magnetism where you can see why people are drawn to him but also like I guess. He's disarming. He's disarming. But it's like the moment where I thought, oh, I really hate this guy is like my biggest pet peeve. Well, maybe not the biggest in the world but I hate when people hold the elevator up so they can finish up a personal conversation when other people are in the elevator. It's like either get off and get the next one or like, so it's like, okay, this guy is just full of himself. But at that moment he's kind of being charming to your former character. Yes, he's flirting with her. Not even just kind of flirting with her but yeah. But he's doing it in a charming way. I think it's interesting those two characters, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy and the Matt Damon, what's his name? Colin Sullivan. Colin Sullivan. Right. Irishman. Yes, you have these two characters and they're almost like a photo negative of each other. Yeah, I think that's part of the appeal of the movie. And it's so interesting. I think one way maybe that Martin Scorsese brings this out is with the female character and her relationship with both of them. You know, there is this, you know, she's, and it is like that negative, you know, that photo negative, you know, that sort of. Yes, definitely. And I think that comes through kind of in almost small details like when they're moving in together, Colin doesn't want to put her childhood photos out on display. We don't want to have them in the main room. And then when Billy comes over to her, he like kind of comments on her pictures that she has up like, oh, this is like he has some interest in it. So, you know, it's kind of shows this difference where they're both, their entire lives are deception, but Billy is oriented towards finding the real. Right. And Matt Damon is, okay, these pictures that show your real life, don't put them on display because the display should be whatever we want to show. Right, yeah. You know, I want to show the gold dome, the beacon, beacon hell. Right. Yeah. And also that Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy is at his most authentic, as a matter of fact, he's only really authentic when he's with her. Whereas with Colin, he's most authentic is not with her. You know, he's not authentic at all with her. No, he's not. Yeah. Billy is constantly looking to kind of ferret out the deception. And he kind of takes her to task when, at first he's her patient, like his court ordered therapy where he's pointing out how she's, at one point he's saying, like, I'm just here to get the volume or whatever you're looking for. Yeah. Well, you'd have a better chance if you pretended not to. And it's like, oh, what does that say about your profession where it's like, you're kind of oriented towards, like, you say these things that aren't true so that you get the reward. Yeah. And so he's like very attuned towards, okay, this is how your legitimate world is corrupt too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I like how they put in, you know, it is kind of a puzzle partway through, you know, like when, you know, about the wrong address. Yeah. And then you realize, oh, they did, we did see the real address. And then we also saw the text with the wrong address. And I didn't put that together. But then it's like, oh, you're right. That was the wrong, you know, it's like, I should have remembered that. And anyway, and he, yeah, that look that comes over is when he, yeah, that's amazing. Yeah. I don't want to go too into it. No, exactly. Well, there's a lot of, a lot of the intrigue is about all these various data points of identity. Yeah. The social security numbers is a big plot point. Right. The word citizen crossed out on an envelope is a big plot point. The phone numbers and addresses and all these flip phones of 2006. Right. All of these things that are just kind of, these things that are tying you to who you really are that you're trying to hide. Yeah. And, you know, it was ahead of its time in that discerning reality. Exactly. Which is such a big thing now. You know, how do you, how do you discern reality? And Leonardo DiCaprio was like giving, I remember when he called the Martin Sheen character Quigley or whatever. Yeah. And he's like, you know, here's how you can do it, you know. Yeah. And they don't do it that way, but that ends up being used against him. You know, sort of the elimination of that Colin is, you know, figuring it because they're both trying to figure out who the mole of the other side is. Yeah. And. What am I, yeah. Exactly. And I think what it's clever about is getting this, even in the small details, this kind of, what am I looking at? Yeah. Where this date, this kind of dessert that they're served, it's like, remember they're back and forth, they're banter. Yeah. And what kind of draws them together is like, what is this? How do we, you start first because I don't know how to start eating this thing. Yeah. But it's almost like this is the central conflict or what am I looking at? What is the purpose of this? What is it actually doing? Yeah. And also this sense of like, I think I know what's real and everybody else seems to be missing it. You know, is it me or is it them? Anyway. And then, you know, really, you know, keeps you on the edge of your seat, especially, you know, when you have key players get killed and you realize, gosh, you know, like anybody who like what happens if the only people that really knew the truth. Yeah. Of your identity. Right. Are no longer there. Then what do you have to go on? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's fascinating that at one point, the only person that Billy has to rely on besides the Vera Farmiga character is Dingman, the Mark Wahlberg character. Right. Who is kind of interesting that that's what he's clinging to when you consider their first interaction. And their second. And their second. And all of them. Right. Mark Wahlberg's hilarious. Yeah. In this movie. He's so good. That first scene where he's being grilled by Martin Sheen, it's almost like a good cop, bad cop thing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really not a Mark Wahlberg fan in general. It kind of gets on my nerves. Every moment he was on screen in this, he's just so good. Yeah. It's hilarious. But he's like giving him, he's giving him the business in their first meeting. Yeah. He's so quick witted. And the part I really liked about Alec Baldwin was. How dimwitted he was. He was a dimwit. Yeah, he's Alec Baldwin. Yeah. So there's one scene where he brings in Dingman to talk to his unit. And he kind of closes, he just kind of rips into his whole, his unit in this very Dingman way. And Alec Baldwin says at the end, he's really a nice guy. Don't judge him based on this. He's like that all the time. It just sounded so funny. Yeah. But it's, you kind of believe that he's the one guy you can trust. Even though they've never had like an authentic moment between them. It's not like there's even a character arc where they grow to love each other. It's just like you know, it's more like you know what his ideals are. And it's like you kind of see beneath all the BS, right? Yeah. Where it's not like I've learned to trust this guy. It's just like I know what makes him tick and I can trust him based on that. Yeah. Yeah, that was an interesting dynamic. And then of course Jack Nicholson. It's so, you know, how they framed him at the beginning of the movie. He's in shadow, he's in shadow. And then when he comes, you know, into the light. Oh, yeah. It's just really well done. Oh, yeah. We start with his voiceover. Yeah. And he just kind of embodies this kind of almost corruption of the American dream, right? Because it's about being the rugged individualist and forming your own identity. And just like really embodies the sinister side of that. Because people say we're the product of our environment, but my goal is to make the environment a product of me. Right. Which is just kind of like almost a perversion of the like pull yourself up through your bootstraps and be, you know, look out for number one type of thing. He's very, his whole MO is to anti-institution, particularly that he has a lot of hang-ups about the church and the law enforcement. You know, he's working for the FBI. It's a very sinister guy. Yeah. In a very Jack Nicholson way. Yeah. And I think he played, it's a good role for him at his age. It's very age appropriate because it's the type of character he's played over and over again. But you can see the years on this character. Right. And at one point Dolly says to him, you know, one of your guys is going to kill you. You know it's going to happen. Which actually does happen. There's a spoiler alert in the description. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you haven't seen it apart, you should see it. You should see it. Yeah. Pretty much everyone dies. Yeah. That's true. Not everybody. Not Mark Wahlberg. Yeah. Well, don't tell them. Well, he dies. Everybody dies. Everybody dies. Oliver von Trapscher did. So what do you think of the title? What do you think The Departed has to deal with? What's the significance? Well, so the one time we saw The Departed was on a, when Billy's mother passed away. Yeah. So Billy is, you know, both these guys are from the same, you know, rough area of town. So there, it's a card. The sentiment in the card is. It's a prayer card. It's a prayer card. It's a prayer card. Yeah. That, you know, praying for the departed or the, what does it say, Bob? Yeah. It's prayers for our departed. Right. The dearly departed. And maybe that the departed will, good things will happen to them. Anyway, something about that. Yeah. Repose. Yeah. I don't remember specifically. So that's the only time that I remember right now seeing The Departed in there. So you're right that the overall themes are of identity. And so then that reminds me of Billy's character because he almost had two identities. He had, he identified more with his mother's family. His parents were divorced. Yes. But he would spend time with his father and his family. So now both of his parents had passed away, but they were from two very different worlds. So he, he, I, he. Codeswitching. Yeah. Yeah. So he, he saw himself as more on his mother's, in his mother's identity. Right. How his mother saw him. But the world sees him more and he's playing more the character of how his father's family would see him. You even changed your accent, didn't you? Yeah. And he, this is a kid who, you know, was really bright and could have, you know, most anywhere. But, yeah, so not, not interested in school. And then again, that's a contrast. So anyway, the departed, to me, I kind of took it as who's his identity. Exactly. Yeah. That's how I see it, too, is like the departed is our connection to where we came from. Yeah. Who our authentic self is. We even see in one of these flashbacks, he, to one of his, I think to an uncle, he's like, okay, now that she's dead, we're nothing to each other. Right. Something like that. We don't even know the background. Right. But it's almost like, it's almost kind of similar to the movie Toko, where it's like, who's left that can vouch for us. Right. Who knows us. Okay. Who knows who we really are. Yeah. Very different in that movie, of course. But it's almost like the departed is those who have passed away, but kind of represent what's real about us. And it's kind of about the dangers of people who of us are ourselves getting erased. Right. And yeah, now that we talked about it, we definitely see that, particularly with his character. Because as people pass away, that it's like, how does he, they take part of his identity with them. Yeah. Because they're the only ones that knew that. Yeah. Yeah. I found this movie intriguing, and this is very, the kind of movie that I'm not drawn to at all. But I really liked it. Yeah. I liked it. Yeah. This one is kind of a fun thriller, but there's also a lot to unpack there. Yeah. I think it has more depth than it seems at first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Did Alan watch it with you? He watched up to the hand. Okay. And then he's like, I'm so tired. And then he watched again at the end. Okay. Yeah, so I was surprised that, oh, that guy, he was expecting people to get shot, that I wasn't expecting people to get shot. Yeah, a lot of people get shot. Yeah, he's more, he thinks more like a criminal than I do. Oh, yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I really liked Leonardo DiCaprio's performance here. Especially with that hand scene, just his reaction, I mean, he's so repelled by it. Yeah. I think of the leads, like, he's the only one that has, well, not the only one, but he never kills anybody. Right. Unlike that Damon and Jack Nicholson, anyone in that world. Everybody is killing other people. Yeah. I don't think Bartlett does, or, well, Digman does, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, he's just kind of, you see him kind of repelled by the violence. No, I liked him so much in the two movies that I would have, you know, he's not, I've gained so much more appreciation for Leonardo DiCaprio. Very different characters, too. Yeah. You're referring to Titanic. I am referring to Titanic, which I gradually really like. Oh, yeah, that's great. Yeah, and this is great, too. What else does he get in? Well, I did like him in Catch Me If You Can, but that's just the fun. Yeah, Catch Me If You Can. Yeah. Wolf of Wall Street, The Aviator, if you have seen that other Martin Scorsese movie. He was also in Blood Diamond this year. Never heard of it. Yeah. Is it going to be up for an award? Well, no, this year being 2006, so he had two big movies this year. Oh, this year, okay. Yeah, in 2006. Okay. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, of course. Of course. Yeah. Never heard of it. It was a Quentin Tarantino movie. Okay, I don't remember. Yeah, he is going to be in Martin Scorsese's next movie. It comes out next month with The Killers of the Flower Moon. Ooh. Yeah, that's The Departed. That's The Departed. Yeah. I feel like this moved along my movie learning curve. Okay, yeah, it's definitely Martin Scorsese. Even if you have seen The Aviator, it's not really, it's not his best work. Yeah, I feel like this one has moved me along. Yeah, now we only have four more movies left from the 21st century. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, most of them are on your board. Right, yes. All of them except for Lord of the Rings. Wait, we're not checking yet. We still have to do that limerick. No, no, yeah. Yeah, okay. This is the one that you said is better than mine. I didn't say that. I just said, so of all the limericks, are we at limerick time? Yeah. Okay. Unless you have anything else to say on The Departed. Up till now, we've done, you've done five limericks, right? We think you started with... Yeah, I did one for, I didn't do one for The French Connection. Okay, so 12 years, so this is, you've done five limericks. They've all been easily way better than Chat GPT, which is my homework. But I do have to say, I think this is Chat GPT's best one yet. Okay. So this is going to be your biggest competition. My biggest challenge. Your biggest competition. And it's not quite the cadence of a limerick. So it's going to lose points for that. Okay. In Boston's gritty, mob-filled plot, two moles entwined, a dangerous knot. Cops and criminals play a twisted game. Identity's hidden, life's never the same. The Departed thrills a tail quite hot. All right, that's pretty good. In Boston's gritty, mob-filled plot, two moles entwined, a dangerous knot. Cops and criminals play a twisted game. See, I'm trying to do it like a limerick. It's not really written like one. Identity's hidden, life's never the same. The Departed thrills a tail quite hot. Yeah, it does sound like a good time to continue. Oh, yours is better. You haven't even read it yet. I did. Okay. I read fast. All right, so. This is so good. All right, so yours still is better. But I do think that was the best one. That was pretty good. Okay. Only because this one. It does capture a lot of elements. It captures a lot of elements, which a lot of them don't do. Okay. This is so good. Jack Nicholson sniffed out a rat. But was the rat Leo or Matt? All three will expire in a hail of gunfire while President Bartlett goes splat. That is so good. I think this is your best one. I love how you do the, you don't use any of the names of the characters, but you do it by what we know them on. I love how you call him President Bartlett. Yeah. Thank you. Jack Nicholson sniffed out a rat. But was the rat Leo or Matt? All three will expire in a hail of gunfire while President Bartlett goes splat. Yeah. Oh, so good. He does too. All right. So there's probably only got five nominations. Okay. Yeah. That's part of why I think that one was kind of a favorite going in. Okay. How many nominations did that one get? I think like eight or something like that. Okay. Yeah. Only got one acting nomination. Leonardo DiCaprio? No Jack Nicholson? No. Matt Damon? No. Was it Martin Sheen? No. It couldn't be Alec Baldwin. No. Wait, we're running out of people. Oh, Marky Mark. Yes. Oh, he was great. He was terrific. As a supporting actor? Yeah. He was a supporting actor nominee. He lost to Alan Arkin from Little Miss Sunshine. Okay. So I don't know how to compare that, but I thought. Yeah. Well, you like Alan Arkin in Argo. Yeah. And in that movie, that TV series, which I've forgotten. Meyerowitz stories? Yeah. The one. Yeah. No, Kaminsky. The Kaminsky. Yeah. Yeah. So that was the only acting nomination. Asterix goes to. I really feel like. Actors can't be nominated for two performances in the same category. Leonardo DiCaprio was nominated for Blood Diamond. Oh. So Blood Diamond is. I haven't seen it since 2006. I remember at the time thinking, okay, he should have gotten the nomination for Blood Diamond. But watching this again, he's really good. Yeah. Blood Diamond, he does have an accent. He's South African. So Blood Diamond, I'd like to watch it again, actually. It's kind of set in, I think it's Sierra Leone, but it's about. Have you heard the term Blood Diamond? No. Yeah. That is a term that indicates the exploitation of these countries with a lot of political instability, but rich resources. And so they become prey for people to come in and take advantage of the broken down government. And the people really pay the price. A lot of people are trafficked and died to get diamonds. Right. So if you have anything with diamonds in it, a kid probably watched his parents die. So you could have that. Yeah. Right. You can say that for any. A lot of minerals. Well, yeah. Yeah. Right. I mean, you take a. Coffee. Right. You take subsistence. Chocolate, for sure. Definitely. You take subsistence farming and replace that with whatever makes money. Yeah. Both pineapple. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Way to bring it close to home. Anyways, Leonardo DiCaprio is kind of like a South African treasure hunter who changes when he sees the conditions and the thriller emerges from that. But at any rate, he was nominated for that instead of the departed. So that's really why he wasn't nominated for here. So it won four of the five. Marky Mark's the only one who lost from the movie. Picture, director, screenplay, and editing. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was really. I'm not good at figuring out editing, but it was a great screenplay. Oh, yes. And. It was very good editing. Picture and director. Yeah. Yeah. So Forest Whitaker won the Best Actor award for playing Idi Amin in The Last King of Scotland. Okay. Jennifer Hudson won Supporting Actress for Dreamgirls. Oh, I loved her in Dreamgirls. She was great in Dreamgirls. Oh, great. Yeah. Yeah. Helen Mirren won for playing the Queen. The Queen. Yeah. Yeah. And then Alan Larkin. Okay. Very good. Yeah. So that's 2006. 2006. Yeah. And Martin Scorsese finally won his Oscar. Okay. Finally. Yeah. I don't know how long you've been working at it, but now let's see the Martin Scorsese film for sure. I have to. Now we get to pick what's coming next. Yes. You have to pick again, because mine. I've been on the same picks for probably six months. About six months. How long? No country for old men. Spotlight was yours. So that was probably the one. Oh, yeah. Spotlight was mine. Yeah. And then it was a long time before the previous one. But anyway. Marty, maybe. Was Marty mine or yours? Marty was yours. Yeah. That's probably the last one. You have to pick one. So here's mine. Yeah. Oh, Platoon was yours too. Really? Yeah. He's had Platoon. Okay. So I've got No Country for Old Men, Amadeus. These have to come up soon. They're all going to come up eventually, yeah. Parasite, Moonlight, The Best Years of Our Lives. It's going to be one of those. Well, they're all going to come up eventually. We're running out of time. Yeah. I think we're due for All Quiet on the Western Front and Rebecca. And The Deer Hunter and Unforgiven are on my list. Yeah. I have to add one. So we only have 26 movies left, right? Right. You have five on the board and I have four. So it's not so much that I'm predicting with number 26, but I'm predicting the movie to be in the teens, right? Well, you're supposed to predict 26. But I think 26 is already on the board. Oh, you do? Yeah. I'm going to put Left Side Story on the board. Such a good movie. Yeah. I'd really like to see it. I don't think it's coming up next, but I think... Okay. Well, when do you think it's coming up next? I'll put it on the Western Front. I think it's Amadeus. Okay. Anyways, let's see what's coming up next. I'm excited. We're up to number 26. Wow. Almost to the top quartile. I know. Yeah. All right. Well, let's see what we're going to view next week. What? Wow, Rocky. I actually thought about picking that. But you didn't? Well, it's really for the teens. Okay. Wow, Rocky is next. Okay. Oh, I might get some interest at my house for watching this movie with me. All right. So this was neither of our picks. Yeah. Rocky. Yeah. 1976? Yep. It's about a boxer. It's about a bocker. Boxer. Boxer. I don't know why I was having trouble with that. So what do you guess that Rocky's about? I think it's about a boxer underdog story. Oh. Let's see how accurate that is. Almost wins, but doesn't. All right. Well, potential spoiler alert. I do have to say, I've not seen this movie in probably two decades. Oh, okay. Well, it should be interesting. Maybe three decades. I don't know. It's been a really long time. Yeah. We'll be back next week with Rocky. Rocky. Rocky Balboa. Adrian. Adrian. Bye. I'm the penguin tonight. Oh. Berkish Ferdinand. Oh, yeah. Hi, everyone. I was hoping to say something clever about The Departed. I'll try a bit. Splat. Splat. Splat. Splat.