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The main ideas from this information are: - The speaker admires the genuineness and kindness of Diane, and sees her as a person without guile. - The speaker discusses how Diane handles difficult situations without getting affected. - Diane talks about her experience with Agnes, who had a great impact on her life and taught her many things. - Diane shares that before meeting Agnes, she felt oppressed and depressed, and didn't have a sense of purpose. - Diane's life changed when she got saved at a Christian church at the age of 16, and she lost the desire for alcohol, drugs, smoking, and partying. Summary: The speaker praises Diane's genuine and kind nature and discusses how she handles difficult situations. Diane shares her experience with Agnes, who had a significant impact on her life. Before meeting Agnes and getting saved, Diane felt oppressed and purposeless. Getting saved at a Christian church at 16 transformed her life and she lost the desire for harmful habits Do you want me to start talking and then go over to you? But what were you going to say? The main thing... Your appeal as anything is your piece. To a fly on the wall to anybody walking in is have you had fun just like the other day? Have you handled Benjamin's death? Have you handled...so maybe we should have it someday. It is. Okay. The thing that really stands out to me, Diane, is I've watched you since we became, you know, found each other and had access for a year. Maybe five years. It's that same quality I saw way back in 1982, which is part of the reason I stayed at Summer Haven, was your genuineness and sweetness and kindness and untaintedness. I would classify you as a person without guile. And Jesus used this in the Bible, I think, it was used for Jesus himself. And so I see that following you and that to me is worth a billion dollars. It is the peace that resides in you. And I don't know if you want to talk about that because I've noticed like I'm in the business world and you're not, you're in the missionary world, right? Right. So you meet a lot of people, but I've noticed that through all different situations, which I probably can't mention, things that I know could tear you up, you know, like attitudes and how you don't get affected. And that is a quality you know, I don't know if you want to talk about that, like how you handle at first. There are difficult situations you're able to not get affected. As I was talking to Gordon, you know, with the death of Benjamin, that at first it was kind of a shock, you know, but all of a sudden a supernatural peace just flooded me. And at that time I felt as if I was leaning on the chest of Jesus. I experienced that and all I can say is something in that situation is something that God supernaturally gave me because He had visited me already you know, and told me that my children was going, so you know, sometimes we don't understand why, Lord, are you taking my son, you know? But it was something that He already knew and allowed. And as I was telling Gordon yesterday, He was the seed, I think, you know, that had to die. Right. And how soon, how much earlier did God tell you that something was going to happen? I think it was, I wish I had brought the book because I was actually going to bring it where I wrote it and document it. I think it was like maybe five years. I think so, someone told me earlier. Yeah. So, I just, I remember sitting next to Agnes a lot, you know? Because she carried a great piece. And I could sit at her feet. And, you know, I think that that was a depositive. Depositive. Yeah, I think so. And Agnes moved very much in the spirit, you know? And I think her teachings and her, I remember a time where I used to speak with her, too, and she would praise through the night for me, and... Even in the bedroom? Yeah, in the bedroom. I remember that we'd be in buckets, lining up just to see her. Yes. And all through the night, and there was times where I was so bound I couldn't even really express what was within me. But I remember just crying, and then she would just pray for me, and it just brought such a relief. Even though I couldn't get out everything. Eventually, through the sessions, I finally was able to get out. What do you mean, sessions? Her primacy? Yeah, just being able to open up more. And then, I remember that she'd even fall asleep, and then she'd give you the answer. She'd wake up and give you the answer. So she moved in the... She moved in the spirit of wisdom, the spirit of counsel, the spirit of the fear of the Lord. And I think that is what was imparted, because it talks about not seeing out of our own ears, not... No, seeing out of our own eyes, hearing out of our own ears. Did I say that right? Seeing out of our own eyes, and hearing out of our own ears. And seeing out of His spirit. Yeah. And I think that has affected my life. Okay, this is very interesting to me. So how long did, would you say, was that when you first came? Well, it was when I had first come to Summerhaven, and then after that, I had went home for Thanksgiving, which I didn't feel I should have, but it was almost like, I think it was like mind control, like my family was calling, and then they... And then my family didn't want me to come back to the ministry, and that's when they came after me, and then they hid me in the mountains, and then Sister Agnes would have me right by her, and when she'd go minister, I would go with her. And then I served Sister Agnes. I think that had a... She taught me a lot in areas that I couldn't see, she saw. And she would say, you know, she'd tell me, wipe down this table, and I thought it was clean. And she would tell me, oh, right over there, right over there. You know? And I think just assisting her and helping her, you know, like to pack her suitcases, and to do her hair, and just to be there, and then when she would give the word, just sitting there and receiving that deposit. So Diane, what age were you at? I was 19. So we're talking 1980? Yep, that's the year. I'm not good at dates, I'm sorry. She spent a lot of time with Agnes, and yeah, completely bowed, she helped her with everything, and she loved that gentleness in your spirit. But not only was it... I'm just telling you what my experience was. Because I come from a completely different background. That gentleness, and yet, the ability to to flow into anything. You know, you could move from okay, you got to watch the kids right now, okay, you got to go with Agnes to help her with her hair. You got to help her do this. Like you were able to move in whatever. And seamlessly. So that was a great quality for somebody like Agnes, because first of all, there was nobody else like her. Number one, because she was you know, had a phone pool, she had all these people coming to see her, and she needed somebody that was quick on their feet to get the job done. And so you were very quick on your feet with whatever, whether it was cooking, cleaning, watching kids, helping her with the suitcase, helping her do her hair. And so you were absolutely invaluable to her. Like, somebody in that position, that's like gold to them. You know, to have an assistant, for lack of a better word. And so through all that, Agnes deposited and trained you. And now God is just using you all over the world. And it's such a breath of fresh air by now, honestly. You know, how God uses you. And so before meeting Agnes, were you that quiet, gentle person that was able to flow into everything we just discussed? No, I don't think so. What was God like before that? Before God got a hold of you and trained you? Well, really, I don't think I even really had a personality. I think I was just very oppressed, depressed. I didn't want to live. I just had no purpose. I had no reason to exist. I didn't know much because I didn't have any training or teaching. I know your father died when you were very young. And your mother was unable to train you because she had to go to work every day? No, she was ill a lot. She was an orphan herself. She was an orphan, so she didn't really have the ability of giving something that she never received. Have you talked about her case? About your mother, what she went through? Yes, I did. Was that somebody killing somebody? Yes. And your father? Yes. So, you basically were raised as a ward of the state. You just were raised with your friends and whatever come what may, and all the influences of school and partying and probably magazines? No, I really didn't. Did you read all that? Oh, I was a model. Tell us about that. Well, I did modeling and then I was going to go to school for modeling. But then the Lord got hold of me when I was 16. And that's when my life began to change. But I didn't feel I had a purpose. I didn't feel I had a destiny. And then I never thought, oh, I'm going to go into ministry. I never... It's just that God himself brought me to the ministry. And Agnes said I was the first person that she ever asked to come because she said they would always ask her if they could come. She said she felt a promise to ask me to come. And at the time, I was in beauty college, but the day I graduated, I packed my bags and I went to the ministry because she said, you need to finish. That's a thought. Did you talk already about how you got saved? Yes. Can you tell me briefly, quickly, so that I might have more questions? How did you change the Lord? What was the circumstance? I was raised Catholic. And that's all I knew. And I would go save my three Hillmarys, my three five-hour fathers, I don't remember now. But I was very bound. And I would just go and do the same thing. And I would say, God, I just I want freedom, you know. And my friend invited me to church. To a Christian church. And it was my first time. It was a Pentecostal church. And the pastor asked if anybody needed prayer, and I knew I needed prayer. So I raised my hands. I received Christ. They said, everybody that raised their hands, come to the front. I had never heard of a sinner's prayer, or never I didn't really know anything about Christianity, only Catholic. So he said, repeat this prayer. And I repeated the sinner's prayer. And everybody hugged me, and I thought, I felt so much love that I had never experienced. How old were you? Sixteen. And that day, I lost the desire for alcohol, for drugs. Wow. And I used to smoke cigarettes. And that left too. Wow. A triple whammy. And not only that, I just decided, I don't even want to watch TV. I used to watch TV all the time. I said, I don't even want to watch TV because I don't want to watch scary movies. And so I would just go and read my Bible. Just go into my room and read my Bible. And my friend that took me to church said, let's go to this party. I said, Tammy, I've had that life. I don't want it anymore. And so, yeah. So the day you got saved, to be clear, smoking, the desire for smoking left. Drugs, alcohol, partying, TV, and just anything that had to do with the world. Just love. From that prayer up at that altar at the Pentecostal church. And prior to that, did you feel something happening, like a stirring in your heart that you wanted to know God more? I know you said, oh yeah. Even as a child, I always said if there's a God, I want to know Him. Wow. So He showed up when you were 16? Yes. Okay. And I looked back in my life, where God had saved my life as well. You know, when the game shot at the house. How old were you then? I would have been 14, I think. Okay. But I shared already about that. Okay. And how I looked back and said, wow God, you spared my life, you know. Wow. Gordon, did you say something? No, I was just wondering, a question in my field is, what is the day in the life of Diane LeBlanc now? Like, what are you doing day by day or month by month? Those kind of things. I don't know if you want to go there now, or if you want to continue where you are in this one. Mm-hmm. If that's what you're saying, if you want to lean that back to what... Yeah. Well, my day consists of people in praying and just mentoring and teaching. Yes. And prayer. Prayer and just being in a quiet place of His presence. Yeah. So I have noticed any time I've told you, which is very unusual for other people, whoever translates this into a book, I hope they put it in, because I have a keen sense of what stands out. And with you, what stands out, again, is you take bundles. Like, you pull up and it's rare if you don't take it, and you only stop taking it during the prayer meeting, and you always get back. That's an incredible quality that is needed in the body of Christ, because for a minister, you've got to be available. You know, when people... Right. If somebody could be dying, anything could be dying. Even suicide. Right. And that person has to be on the wall, has to be looking at their text messages, seeing. And I've noticed that about you. You're always available to pray for somebody. And even, like, when I call, a lot of times I'm not even asking for prayer, I'm just talking, and then you just start praying. And so, yes, I can vouch for that, that your life is just full of you know, when you rise in sleep, fall asleep. But, it's also the flowing together of the natural and the spiritual. Right. So it's not all like, whoo! You know, it's not bright, but you are cooking, you are cleaning, and you're dealing with this person, dealing with that, putting the party together. Hosting, yeah, ministry. Well, we work with a lot of churches, and we work with the pastors, and the pastors look to us to help their people. So, they'll come, and they'll come maybe on a Friday, and they'll be there until Sunday, and then we're just there, doing ministry, deliverance, healing, teaching, feeding, of course, and all the natural things that come along. Maybe this place isn't a work. Yeah, and that's another thing, like, I noticed, like, anybody else in that position would be probably complaining or whining, because it's a lot of hands-on, like, and that's another quality I've seen with Diane, which I hope this person gets, is you don't complain about, you know, going from, you could be praying in the Spirit for a whole church, to having to feed a bunch of people. And I don't think your dishwasher works, right? No. Jamie, please fix this. It's needed for the advancement of the kingdom. But, I don't see you complaining and whining about things, even like last week, when you wanted to come with me in the car, because we would have fellowship. Yeah. But husband didn't feel, you know, because of the heat, and he's looking at me, and whatever. You know, it's like that, like, it's a quality, you don't whine and complain about things that don't go your way. So that is really quite a quality, I've got to say, that the Lord you know, and it's like the, um, what was I saying? Something like, you know, if you're faithful in those things, you're going to be faithful much. So, the little things are still big with you, you know, and so, um, yeah, that's just something I noticed, of, um, you're able to flow with the natural and the spiritual just effortlessly and seamlessly, which is incredible, Diane. I think that, um, like Agnes said, that, um, we learn to walk in the Spirit. Yeah. And that's what she taught us. And when you're in the Spirit, you can do all things. You know, and, um, I think that's one of the things I learned from Sister Agnes, is that you know, to live and move and have our being, to totally surrender. Yeah. And become nothing so He can come in and be glorified through our lives. Right. Because the people are looking for Jesus, and they have to see it in a people. Right. And when you can bring the nature of Christ, Right. and they can tangibly see it and feel it, I think it has more impact than giving it a track. Like Agnes would say, we have to become that living epistle. Right. And that's what brought me, was you know, it's connected to your life. What I saw in Agnes that day, in 1982 in New York, I said, this lady, I remember saying, this lady's got something. And I said, she's got the authority, I remember thinking, she's got the authority, and she's got the ability. And that same quality as in you, Diane, that was the positive in you, so it says in the Word, not to, you know, God did some foolish things to the world. Oh, I love that scripture. That's one of my scriptures. So to the world, you would be a foolish thing. A girl who grew up, the mother wasn't there, the father had died. Not graduated from high school. Brothers in the gang, and they're shooting up your house, and you were so like, you had no direction. And yet God took you, gave you your heart, and he placed you, the privilege of placing you with Agnes, which is similar to, like the disciples, being placed with Jesus. I mean, Agnes wasn't Jesus, I'm not saying that. Right. But she was trained by Jesus. Yes. And she had a certain amount of people that she trained. And to, out of your own mouth, you said, you were the first person she asked. That's what she told me. And after that, I don't know, but at that particular time. Right. And then, so she didn't know, like, when she asked you, how long had you met her? When she asked you to live there, how long? She met me the first night. Okay. The first night. Have you talked about that, how you got there? Yeah. Okay. The first night, she prayed with me, and she asked me the first night. The first night she met you. She had never met me before that. Okay. So, here's my point. So, Agnes doesn't know you from Adam. You walk in the door, you spent maybe a couple minutes with her, correct? Well, late at night when everybody was doing the dishes. Okay. So, you spent, what, an hour with her? I don't remember. Okay. So, she doesn't know what you just said out of your mouth, but later on, you would be sitting at her chair. You would be sitting there like a little bird with its mouth first open, listening. She didn't know that at the time. No. Is that not, like, something? But the Spirit of the Lord knew it. And so, He put it on her heart to ask it. Yes. And then, out of your mouth, you said, you had no training, no nothing, no purpose, no direction. Okay. But yet, it's really amazing to me. This is very fascinating to me. This is a really key point. I hope this person translates this. Yes. It's the deposit that God placed in you through the person He chose to train you to use you now in a worldwide ministry. Yes. So, we need to be very, very as a young Christian, whoever God put this with, we need to really esteem that and treasure that because had you not sat still at her perch, at her chair, listening, where would I be? You could be being used the way you are now. And you're literally being used around the world by Him. And so, that's really remarkable. Yeah. I guess, you know, you don't realize until you look back what God really did, and He's still doing, you know. We're in a process to become like Him. Because I got there like maybe a year after you. I wish we knew the date you got there. I got there in 86. You were there, and I think you had told me you came in 81. So, one year. So, what was visible to me as a New Yorker, was a you stood out to me. Because I saw that peace, I saw the gentle fear, I saw the kindness, I saw the flowing. In one year, God had done it. And now, 40 something years later, but later on. So, we can walk away from what God placed within us. Yes. Or we can stay the course. And that's there. What I was talking to Gordon yesterday is that I've seen a lot of people not finish the race, you know. And my heart is to encourage you no matter what difficulties, whatever problems, you know, sometimes we have an image, this is going to be my life, and this is how my children are going to turn out. I would have never thought I would have went through the things that I have gotten through. Right. But, it doesn't mean that God has forsaken us. It also, it can also mean that he has entrusted us to go through these things. That we will not deny his name. You know. Right, right. Through suffering is a we have to embrace suffering. This society doesn't want to embrace any suffering. It's all blessing. But I'm telling you that in the work of the ministry, just as the apostles went through things, we will go through them too. And it's how we go through them that qualifies us if God can entrust us. Right. With his glory. Because I think God wants, like the harness of the Lord, those that jumped over the fence.
