The men behind the murder

Adnan Syed was arrested and convicted for the murder of Hay Min Lee, while Jay Wilde was convicted as an accessory. In the podcast, new witness Josh claims he was with Jay after the murder and noticed that Jay was afraid. Jay's story consistently changes during police interviews, indicating he may be hiding something. Adnan denies any involvement and claims it was a normal day. Jay's motive for the murder could be jealousy, as Adnan was close to Jay's girlfriend Stephanie. Another theory suggests that Jay blamed Adnan to avoid trouble. A call from Nisha supports Jay's story, but also raises questions. Adnan's lack of clear memories makes him appear guilty. Both Jay and Adnan are implicated in Hay's murder, but Jay seems more involved. Adnan's inconsistent stories make him look guilty as well. On the morning of February 28, 1999, 17-year-old Adnan Syed was arrested and later convicted in court for the murder of 17-year-old Hay Min Lee and sentenced to life in prison in 30 years. Jay Wilde was convicted of being an accessory to the murder, but due to his testimony, he was sentenced for parole for two years. This is our podcast, Serious. Here today we have Tristan, Adriano, Brian, and myself, Norman. Previously on Serious, we spoke with Jay's co-worker, Josh and Don, who was with Hay's boyfriend prior to his arrest. On the time of Hay's death, Don had received the news of Hay's death, and time-stepped his whole day knowing that he was the first suspect the police had. He also had an alibi by his mom, who he worked for as a lens crafter. He was cleared of all charges with any involvement of Hay's murder. In episode 12, they introduced a new witness. His name is Josh, who claimed that he was with Jay after the murder. According to him, that night when he was working with Jay, he stated, Well, that particular night, there was a band in that parking lot, which I'm pretty positive had no one in there, but Jay was afraid. I mean, to the point, he was almost in tears. This can be used as evidence against Jay because he was afraid of something. Maybe the police or someone who was also involved. During the interviews the police had with Jay, one thing remained consistent in Jay's saying. He always had something changed in his story. Every time when the police asked him, something changed in Jay's timeline. Sometimes it was minor, but other times it was major. For example, how Jay claimed that he didn't know where Hay's car was, but then he was asked again later about it, and he just suddenly knew the exact location it's at. Another example of a major change in Jay's story is, I quote, In the first taped interview, Jay says Adnan only told him that same day that he was going to kill Hay. Two weeks later, Jay says that Adnan had started talking about it beforehand, four or five days before episode four. This shows us clearly, or tells us clearly, that Jay is hiding something and is nervous to be caught. Why would you suddenly change the time you were told that that person would kill somebody? Adnan also mentioned that it was a normal day and he denied anything ever happening the day of the murder. Furthermore, Jay claims not to be involved in the Hay's murder, but he did so many things that he was, like help Adnan bury a dead body. One day he decides to outright lie to the police. Jay stated in the interview, because at the time I was convinced that Adnan would be going to jail for a long time if he turned me in for drug dealing, especially to high school kids, which seems reasonable, but not enough to kill a human. Another reason Jay might have killed Hay was because Adnan was being close to Stephanie, who was Jay's girlfriend. Adnan came over to his house asking if he got a present for Stephanie for her birthday. Once Jay told Adnan that he was trying to get Adnan one, they decided to go to the mall together to get one. Adnan stated that I went to his house and asked him, did you happen to get a present for Stephanie? He said no. So I said, if you want to, you can drop me off back at school and borrow my car and you can go to the mall and get her a gift or whatever. Then just pick me up after track practice that day. Jay mentions how at the mall, Adnan allegedly said that he was going to kill Hay, although Adnan denies this and says he didn't remember much of anything that day. Here Jay seems to be lying. The second theory is that Adnan and Jay were friends together and then Jay decided to blame Adnan to get out of trouble. A call from Nisha supports Jay's story of Adnan leaving his phone with him. Nisha remembers calling Adnan and talking on the phone with someone else. It could be a missed call because AT&T charges for missed calls that keep ringing for over a minute. The Nisha call was two minutes late. It could have been a butt dial, which is what Adnan said, because they still charged for it. If it wasn't, it makes Adnan look more guilty because he wasn't with his phone that day. This could increase the government's trust in Jay's story or cause more confusion if it was a butt dial. It opens up more scenarios if Adnan called her, if Jay was with someone else, or if Jay just accidentally called. It could also make Adnan look more guilty or make both Adnan and Jay look more suspicious. Though Jay is very guilty or at least somewhat involved in Hay's death, there is another person that is included into Hay's death, which would be Adnan. Even though Adnan's story has been at least somewhat more consistent than Jay's, one of his main problems is the fact that he doesn't remember at all. He's like, oh, I probably went to track practice, or oh, I went to the library. He doesn't have a clear point, which practically makes him look a little guilty already. So we know that Jay is at least more involved in Hay's murder than he stated. But there is another person that is involved, which would be Adnan. Adnan, we know he is guilty because even though his story was way more consistent than Jay's, his stories never match up with other stories, and usually when they do, it just makes him look worse or more guilty.