The conversation starts with a discussion about the timing of a video and whether it should be shown at 7:00 PM or 7:30 PM. The participants express different opinions on the matter and ask for feedback from viewers. The conversation then shifts to a discussion about the curriculum in schools and the issue of grooming. There is mention of individuals who have been advocating for change, including Karleen Iroa and Mike King's son, Sesh. The conversation also touches on other media outlets that have started discussing the issue. The transcription ends with a discussion about a charity called Inside Out, which provides support for rainbow communities. There is skepticism about the organization and its involvement in curriculum advice. The speaker suggests looking into the charity's trustees and their qualifications. Finally, there is a brief discussion about personal grievances and the need to speak up about injustices. The speaker shares a personal experience with a doctor and encourages
Yeah, please. Thanks. That'll be out of the way. I suppose we'd put the video on. Make sure I put it in the right group. There we go. What do you think about the Hapa 7 during the winter? It seems people liked it a little bit more that time, or does it not suit you? I mean, I'd be inclined to do 7.30 in the summer and 7.00 in the winter because it's larger. Oh, would you? Yeah. Because I thought 7.00 in the summer is good because then people can watch the Zoom and then they can go out, whereas people are, you know, people are staying in and they're having maybe more leisurely time.
Maybe the participants might like to tell us a little bit. Yeah. If they like it more, do they like 7.30 or do they like 7.00? Anybody going to tell us about that? Put the number you like in the chat, if you don't mind, either way, put an E or something. We'll have a quick survey. 7.30 or 7.30. 7.30 seconds in there. Yeah. Not worried either way. Either way. Either way. Okay. Either way. Yeah. Okay. Well, we've got plenty of faithful watchers who come along, whether it's 7.00 or 7.30.
Welcome to, so is Kay McKenzie like 7.30? So one person said about 7.30 for kids in bed. Any idea if Kay McKenzie, why you prefer 7.30 either way? Yeah, I prefer on a Friday, probably 7.30 because it seems like there's always deadlines to meet on a Friday. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. That'll mean half an hour. That's fine with me. Yeah. Jan says any time. Well, nobody's definitely said 7.00, so I guess we could, it's up to you, Emma, because you're the one that actually has to open up.
Yeah. I have no life, so. Well, I begin to wonder about mine sometimes, too. Surely a servant number eight. No, that's not it. No, that's all good. Yeah. That's all good. Well, it's been an amazing week. The snowball has started to, I think, pick up speed. It's going to cause some avalanche. Since we started talking about this, you know, a couple of weeks ago about the curriculum in schools. I've seen or heard of, well, of course, we know that Karleen Iriroa has been on this for a long time.
Not so much the curriculum in schools, of course, but the grooming, etc., that's been going on. Yeah. She's been aware of it. She continues to do. Oh, and Sesh has as well. Okay. Great. Now, Sesh is Mike King's son, I believe. Yeah. Yes, he is. Great personality. So, that's Sesh. That's Karleen. Yes. I don't know what happened. Jeff, mute, please. I've got him. Okay. I've got him. I did it. I did it, Jeff. I'm on it.
Life has to go on. Bob McCroskey has three. Sean Plunkett. Yes, I just put a couple of things from him in the chat that we... Yep. And Karleen was also talking to... What's her name? Donna. Oh, Awateri. No, no. Donna. What's Donna's second name? She was Māori Party MP in Leston. Oh, and she's with Outdoors now. I think so, yeah. Yeah. Donna Pokiri Phillips. That's right, Joe. Thank you. Yep. So, an interview that she'd done with Karleen this morning, riveting.
Yeah, I've got that. Donna said, you learn all sorts of things on this channel, S.K. McKenzie, he says, or she says, didn't know, says with Mike King's son. So, yeah, she was having this conversation with Donna, and Donna said she hadn't actually believed it. She thought it was a distraction, and now it's hit her, and now it's hit her. So, this is what I mean about people, you know, we might not know every group. Oh, the other one.
So, there's another one. It was an interview, apparently, with, is it, Ob McCoskey, on the new radio. What's it called? Reality Check Radio. Reality Check Radio, which I haven't had a chance to listen to yet because I've been on it every day. Okay? So, basically, the media is starting to pick it up. The most significant, I guess, is the fact that Sean Plunkett has picked it up, right? Because that is something that, you know, the people on both sides of the political spectrum possibly listen to or watch.
I mean, he didn't give us, you know, he didn't, he was a jammer, but there's a line for everybody, it seems, and this seems to be the line in the sand for everybody. It'll be bigger than the Freedom Village, for sure, for sure. So, that was that. So, there's a whole lot of platforms or outlets that people are starting to talk about it on. Yes, Jeff? Yeah, I think you mean Bob McCoskey from Family First. Family First.
That's it. I thought it was named Bob. That's right. Now, they've done some great, they've been focusing on this, of course. They've been focusing on the curriculum. And so, that's kind of their area. But the interview that Sean Plunkett did was not so much an interview. They had another, I think he's called Ben Espiner. He's a researcher. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's, yeah, Guillaume's son, right? Is that right? Oh, no, I thought you were talking about the father, because Guillaume Espiner used to work for the Herald.
Yeah, yeah, I'd say Ben is a relation, or maybe the son, right, because he's a young guy. So, that's worth watching because it gives you some more insight into how it's linked into the political world and the world of the money, of course, right? So, what Ben was reporting was that the design of the curriculum, the advisors were a private trust called Inside Out, a private charitable trust, right? Don't know who they are. We can't get OIAs on them, right? Pretty much shutting the door on finding out.
But we, as I said before, we are in the business community and in what I call a political class, which is, you know, and that can include corporations. Yes, they are a rainbow charity. So, they have political, you know, they're in there to push a political, you know, use, basically use our taxpayer money to pay themselves, etc. The agenda, yes, the agenda is. They don't apparently have any particular, as far as we can find out, any particular educational qualifications.
What else did Ben say about them? That there's only, I think it was about 16 trustees, maybe, maybe it was 16 trustees. It was a small number of trustees. There, you can find out about by going to, I believe that if you go on to, what's it called? Business New Zealand or not Business New Zealand. The company's website. They're not a company, but there's a part of the company's website where you can go and have a look at.
Oh, great. Susan was saying, Carleen's going on to Reality Check Radio as well. So, you can go to the company's website and you can look under the charities tab. Okay, it's a different one. I think you should be able to find out who the trustees are through there. I haven't had a look yet. It just occurred to me. I'll look while you're talking. I'll go grab it. I'm going to have research as we talk. Yes, Jeff.
Have you seen the link that Emma's just posted to their website? You can go there. It's most informative. Who's just posted it? Me. Emma's just posted it in the chat. What? Posted what? Inside Out. Oh, very good. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. They're a bit like the Pinkhead Lady group, right, who gave all of these recommendations about jabbed Maori and Pacific people in particular, right? No, I did research on them. Auckland University, most of them.
All to do with AI, all to do with static insects and reptiles. I've got to share this. I really do. I've got to share their website. I'll do it right now. Okay. While we're chatting. Oops. Here we go. Oh, let's see. I'll just move this up so I can see it. Education and support of Aotearoa's rainbow communities, right? Inside Out is a national charity working to make Aotearoa safer. For all rainbow young people, we provide resources, workshops, consulting, advocacy, and support for everything concerning LGBTQA plus communities.
The school staff. Oh my goodness me. You know what Kawara is, don't you? No, I don't. It's a Chinese bear. Kawara bear. Is that right? Well, not surprised there, you know. I'm joking. Look at these people. Look. Here we go with the coloured hair again. Sorry people who've got innocent coloured hair, but man oh man. So it's all women, is it? It's all women in one. What's that in the middle? A couple of guys. Yeah. What's that one there? This one here.
With the big trousers. Not sure. He's probably not sure either. So schools. Oh no, these are just the school staff, right? Oh, these are the ones in the schools. My goodness sake. So they've got into the staff room one morning and said, you know, have a safe, make sure safe workshops for school staff. Of course, they're getting paid to do all of this, right? Professional development. Offer guidance and supporting and affirming rainbow students. And of course, we remember that Dora told us in the last time we met that there's a push to, not just a push, but they are being told not to tell their parents what their pronouns are at school, you know, and whether they're considering, you know, getting the chop or whatever they're going to do.
Yeah. Oh my goodness, yes. Okay. Delivered by members of the rainbow community, our workshops empower staff and workplaces to be safer and more inclusive of race. So these people are running, yeah, these people are running not just workshops for gay people. They're actually running the curriculum advice. So how do they? This isn't just about, you know, empowering gay people or trans people. This is about wanting to take our children and turn them into whatever they had started off with as healthy little girls or boys into some sick Fs.
And it's all for money in the end. Yeah. So how do they, what do they class as safer? I'd actually quite like to ring them up and ask them that. Well, they wouldn't, they would hate this term. What's their definition of safer? Is it safer that, like Dora said the other night, you know, a group of older kids could decide that they're going to, you know, go pick on one of the, one of the five-year-old girls and yeah, just have a wee play with her.
Yeah. Is that safer? I don't know. Asking questions like that Emma would be considered threatening probably. Good. Yeah. That's terrible. Sorry, Liz. Carry on. Yeah. Keep going up a little bit. Our blog. Waikato. Oh dear, dear, dear. They're seeking a Waikato schools coordinator. They're seeking casual facilitators for rainbow competency. They're seeking regional schools coordinator. We can all go. They've got plenty of money. Okay. Yeah. We can all go sign up. We could, we could ring them up.
Oh. Well, any of you can. So they've got a $26 per hour starting rate. That's less than the minimum wage, isn't it? Or am I wrong? It's a little bit more than the minimum. Oh, okay. It's about, I think the minimum's about $22 now. Something like that. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's enough of that. Yeah. Well, you know, the thing is, who we really need to get hold of is teachers, right? Yeah. We need to have people out there talking to teachers, talking to school boards, and getting them on board, right? Nikolai said he was trying to eat while we were showing that.
He was trying to eat. Okay. Sorry, Nikolai. Well, you know, make sure you're not on, we're not seeing a picture of you eating at all. That's fine. Okay. Viewer discretion. I actually had thought that we might like to, we might like to see if any of the advocates are on tonight and get them to tell us about how things are going. I've got some pretty exciting news about how things are going in the union. Oh, here's Erika.
Good evening, Liz. Well-timed, Erika. Can you kind of, as the union general secretary, give us a kind of a, what do they call it, a 30,000-foot overview? 30,000-foot overview is coming up. We have a large backlog of personal grievances. We have a large backlog of personal grievances in progress, and we have a large backlog of grievances that have been settled. Well, they're not backlogs, eh? Sorry, they're not backlogs. Yes, backlogs. They're sitting in the… Done column.
Done, done, done. Completed. And this really reminds me of the, was it GlaxoSmithKline, who about 15 years ago mucked up on vitamin C and they had to go on TV and apologize? Companies don't like to apologize. They don't like to say they did something wrong. They engage lawyers to keep it all secret, have a confidential settlement, and it's brushed under the carpet, and the mainstream media are none the wiser, and nor is the man or woman on the street.
So, yes, I'd say, without looking at the exact numbers, I mean, we've probably settled a quarter of the stuff that's come in already. So, yeah, we do have a lot, but all it takes is one child to tell the emperor that he has no clothes, as we all know that story of the emperor who has no clothes. And like I said before, corporations don't like to admit that they're wrong. Gosh, it took the Air Museum in 40 years to admit that they mucked up on the Erebus disaster.
As one of our union members said in one of her mediations, she said, I don't want to wait for my employer, I don't want to wait 30 years for my employer to say they're sorry. I mean, that's sort of the timeline that these companies think that they can wait before they say sorry. I think the E.G. Allen example is just a sort of classic example, and corporations are going to keep doing this for a very long time.
A point example is the Nike movie. What's it called? Air. Nike's been in a lawsuit last year for discrimination. So isn't it interesting that someone delivers a script about them taking on Michael Jordan back in the late 80s, early 90s, and making a movie of it right when there's a big lawsuit against Nike workers. So yeah, they'll pay the CEO of Smith's, Alex O'Quine, to go on TV and say he's sorry he mucked up on the Ribena vitamin C.
They'll pay a movie studio to make a movie about Nike and how they didn't discriminate back when Michael Jordan was about to become a big name to sell their product. So we still have a lot of work to do, and everyone who joins these calls I'm sure is doing a great job of being vocal. This is the time when we have to have these conversations with people. Talk on the phone loudly in the library, in the supermarket, and talk about all this kind of stuff because it's not...
The people who have been left out of jobs and being left out of other areas, they need to have their voices heard. And yeah, another interesting thing happened to me today, and I've now lodged a complaint. A doctor said that on my appointment I had to show up 15 minutes early to do a rat test, and I wouldn't be allowed... You know, that was their policy. Nevertheless, I did that OIA on how much was being given to health practitioners for administering certain medicine and for tests, rat tests.
And the OIA said that it was $120 for a supervised rat test. So I put two and two together, and this doctor is making his patients probably 30 a day. All of them show up 15 minutes early and do a supervised rat test. So I phoned the Health and Disability Commissioner and filled out a complaint. Talk about milk, you know. And then I spoke to someone else about this, and he said that he hasn't been to see his uncle in a rest home for a year because the rest home forces visitors to have a rat test.
And I thought, this poor elderly uncle in a rest home without any visitors. The thing is, these rest homes have health practitioners in them, and they have nurses in them. So make a complaint to the Health and Disability Commissioner. It's very easy. You ring the 0800 number or you go on their website. This is, I mean, you can't be denied visitor access by an intrusive rat test. And yeah, that's just not on. And get them on that, because I would hate to be age 80-something in a rest home without the capacity to know where my family was.
You know, it's just awful. And people need to learn something about this, you know, about these kinds of things. It's been bad weather this week, and someone said, do you think the schools will be open? And I'm thinking, what have we turned into? Are we all just sitting at home in our little internet boxes, scared of what the state will tell us is the next frightening thing? You know, I think I went to school when cyclone Fola happened.
I certainly didn't stay home. So yeah, that's my NZD 0.02 for today. Thanks, Erica. Another good thing about the Health and Disability Commission, you can go on their website and you can get their consumer's book of rights or something like that. And there's some amazing information in that. I found it very helpful when I was doing my complaints about pharmacists and Uncle Tom Copley and what have you. So they're good people, the health and disability ones.
They really get on to it. And I did actually see on one of the threads that I have a look at sometimes that someone said they had a friend who was an older man who'd been to try and get a booster at the pharmacy. And they said, no, we're not doing them anymore. Too many people are getting sick after them in New Zealand. Yes. Yes. So the pharmacies are starting to wake up. Yeah, good. Marie, you need to do a complaint to the Health and Disability Commissioner because there's a health practitioner in that particular rest home who's made this decision and they're not allowed to cut off access.
I mean, I was thinking, I was thinking how many lawyers are there in rest homes who have the mental capacity to challenge the fact that they're not getting visited. Probably not many. Yeah, or family members whose parents are in rest homes or something like that. Yes, staff in rest homes have to wear stupid masks. Yeah. It's all. It's all. Yeah. Every time I see someone with a surgical mask, I say, have you seen a surgery? Why are you wearing that? My mum was in a rest home up until August last year and they didn't dare.
They had a go at me a couple of times and then they gave up after that. They knew. I wrote the CEO big screeds of information that they're breaching the Health and Safety at Work Act and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah and all the human rights stuff and all that. Yeah. Well, Fees just had a look at the Charities Commission report on Inside Out. It says they received $1.9 million, $1 million from services provided and $93,000 from donations.
OK. They're still trying to enforce masks and they wonder why they're being abused or threatened. Exactly. If they've got a million for services, who paid them for the services? For dispensing, it comes out of the public purse. I can't see where it came from, Geoff, but I think that you can inquire that information from them. From my recollection, because we had a hall that I had helped administer locally and the Charities Commission, I'm pretty sure you can inquire about that, where those funds come from, because it should be open to the public.
Does it say? Sorry, Fee. Yeah, it doesn't say on there where it came from, but that $1.09 million is probably for services. It says for services, so it's probably what they got paid for their advocacy or their advice given, but $93,000 from donations. They put pressure on businesses by saying, well, if you don't, remember that's the Rainbow Tech. They possibly run the Rainbow Tech, although that could be something else. The Rainbow Tech people were the ones who tried to keep the free speech union out of AUT.
No. Yeah. I did a legal opinion for the free speech union about it. It was about union access, because they wanted to know, well, how does the ERA work in terms of union access? Of course, within doing the legal opinion, I found out it was Rainbow Tech who was keeping the free speech union out. So the warehouse groups subscribe to the Rainbow Tech? Mm-hmm. There's a lot of businesses that do. A lot of banks are doing it, right? The 80s.
And then even McDonald's got on board and got the Hart Foundation to take on some of their products. That's when you know it has no meaning. Yeah. Oh, no, they're just pushing the money around and making a living. They don't work for a living. They politicize. That's all they do. There's no work or propagandize. Did anybody see the Pride and Sport New Zealand advertisement for ASB? It's called Rainbow Auckland ASB, and they are proudly displaying the Little Boy Lovers logo in rainbow colors.
Hang on, I'll see if I can... I'm not quite sure how to put a picture of it on, but somebody shared it on the group today. I banked with them. In the St. John's report of last year, ASB Bank donated $5 for each worker. $5 for each worker at St. John's who got jabs. Oh, yeah. Those bastards. Yeah. Can we see it? Oh, yeah. That is the Little Boy Lover. That means in pedo language. This is from the FBI.
This is the pedophilia insignia. This triangular one. For somebody who loves little boys. So that's a pedo symbol. So, yeah, that's pretty disgusting. So, you know, guys, I know we all need banks still. So, you know, get out of these banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us.
Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us. Get out of the banks who are pushing us.
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There was a lot of, she was working in a workplace, an unvaccinated person in a workplace with lots of vaccinated people, lots of the talk about, you know, they ought to be locked up and all the other sorts of horrible things that were said and done. Isolation, whispering, laughing behind people's back, saying they were mad, placing staff members who talked in loud voices about how they should be locked up near to them, making her sit in one place, not allowed to walk around the office while her coffee or tea was brought to her, et cetera, et cetera.
So, anyway, that sort of part of the complaint we've dealt with. But they can try it again unless we start to do Section 83s on this sort of behavior in offices in particular. Right? Or bullying behaviors. You're right, Alicia. So, this is going to be a bit of a test run on how Section 83 is going to work in this situation. She is not a slave, exactly, Em. This is slave, this is slavery, right? This is what slavery looks like, you know? This is what slavery looks like.
We might start, you know, having a bit of a sign campaign, right? People can put in, you know, how many hours, especially these people who are on the teachers, for example, the nurses, the doctors, right, who are on a salary, and can do a PIN if you've got a group of people doing it, Jay. A Section 83 is for the individual. A Section 83 is what we're going to train the teachers to do with a PIN as a Section 84.
You need a group for that. And we can do that, I mean, if we get a group of people in a workplace. But we've often only got one person in one workplace, right? Right? So we have to be able to use Section 83 properly, right? So I can't tell you, Lara, what happened in the mediation. I'm just saying this is something that's going to happen from here on in, both to protect her back in the workplace, but also to bring workplaces into line and to stop this bullying that's going on by management, because management lead it.
Management lead it. We hope to be able to rid workplaces eventually of psychopaths, because, you know, they're going to have to be sacked, right? They're going to have to be sacked. There's nothing else for it. So we'll have to watch our ranks to make sure we don't get any of them joining our union. No, I'm sure you're all great. Right. So that's going to be a bit of a dry run about how we're going to set up a safe workplace for the teachers in relation to the, you know, getting this curriculum torn down.
The other thing, 18 hours per day, seven days a week. Well, we've also got what I've often called Section 83, an anti-slavery section of the Act, right, of the Health and Safety at Work Act, but we've also got in the Employment Relations Act, we've got Section 64 A, B, C. We've got all things about, you know, you've got to make sure that you don't try sneakily getting work without pay, right, which is called sweating, or, you know, making sure that you provide all the facilities that are supposed to be there, and you haven't got people sleeping under the mill, under the spinning machines like they did, you know, back in the day.
Because remember, pretty much, although, you know, a lot's been codified into statutory, we started off the first decent working legislation, and legislation for workers in New Zealand was the Factories Act, right, where they had age limits for who was to work how many hours a week a certain age group could work, et cetera, et cetera, okay, and then you had labour inspectors who were, factory inspectors and then labour inspectors who were checking the conditions of the workplace.
We have come back to the 1880s. We have come back to the 1880s in this country. It's worse because they do it with a smiling face. At least you knew who was kicking you in the guts in the 1880s. Now, they have HR managers in smart suits, okay. Now, the good news that I want to talk about was that our friend Karen called me this morning and said she wanted to know if what she'd found, a decision that she'd found from 2022 was good for resisting costs, okay, costs.
The fee says, I nearly fell asleep at the spinning wheel last night. Okay, well, under it was, you've got a little spinning wheel, not a big one. So, anyway, this case was, it's a decision about, you know, so the person had been a, and I will get it, and I will publish, I will get it published on the union website so people could have a look at it, but it's the first definitive statement I've seen about the importance of these cases going forward, about the backs, right.
This person worked, and it was, it's something like GF and OO, it's one of those ones where they've said, okay, we're going to hide the names, you know, it's been requested by, usually by the worker actually, or the workers council, or the workers advocate. And so they were going through the case, and the interlocutories, what are called the sort of bits and pieces that go on between the main events, like you've got a hearing in the authority, or you've got a hearing in the court, you've got all of these things that lead up to it, and, you know, where you've got the lawyers fighting back and forward about, well, can we admit this piece of evidence, can we have this witness, you know, is it going too slow, is it going too fast, all sorts of things, you know, is there a 90-day issue, that would be an interlocutory application.
Slows things down, and what I've said before, they've been trying to slow us down with the cost of all of this, because even though we've not paid them anything, they're trying to do it all of the time. So I think that this decision by the Chief Judge of the Employment Court, Judge Ingalls, is going to make a big amount of difference. We didn't know about it before, just, as I say, just saw it this morning, and probably because it was, you know, one of these bullshit, let's hide the names of the parties, you know.
So some sort of, I don't know what the work was, but it was the government department, the judge, they had resisted the costs that were asked for, and the judge said, yes, they could be, the cost would lie where they fell, okay. She also said that government departments should bear the cost of this, these cases. It doesn't say exactly, the cost shouldn't be awarded against, because she said this was the first time that they were coming before the courts and they were a public interest, because the state itself was involved, right.
Now one of the things, of course, that we haven't used much, but we will make sure it's front and centre, is section 54 of the Public Services Act 2020, which says there's not to be political interference, it doesn't name it, it doesn't say it that way, but this is what it is, in the work of public servants, right. And that's a classic example of the separation of powers between the three arms of government, the three, so you've got the parliamentary arm, you've got the executive, which is also called the Crown, and then you've got the judiciary and the police, right, they sit together.
So, very, very good news. I think that we can, this is going to be another tool that we're going to be able to use to move the cases forward more quickly. All we need now is 48 hours every day for every advocate and everybody who's helping with the union. So, I don't know if that can be arranged, but we're doing our best. And we're also trying to, you know, get some group stuff going as well, so we can get things moving forward.
So, in terms of using a section 83, anybody who hasn't got a personal grievance, right, but is in the workplace, where they're feeling nervous or under pressure, you need to join the union. And we can probably improve your, once we get good at this, we can probably improve your working conditions without having to go on strike. Now, section 83, you don't have any, it's basically, in her case, it would be like a go-slow. Well, no, not a go-slow, a work-to-rule.
So, the rule is 125 hours. You do not do any more. And they cannot do anything about it. And you don't need the whole workplace behind you, because it's a section 83, it's an individual worker. So, start thinking, guys, if you haven't joined up, or you know people who are complaining about their working conditions, get them to join the union, tell them about it. You got any questions about how it works, come on next time and tell us, you know, about what you're talking to people about, that you've been encouraging them, and we can use section 83 to really make a difference in this, in the working environment.
Too many butt lickers. Well, they can lick, you know, they can lick whatever they want, but the people who aren't, we're going to help, okay. Ivy, what you got to say? Have you got away from your spinning wheel? I'm actually at my carding wheel at the moment. Oh, you're at your carding wheel. Love a carding wheel, I'm carding one. You see that carding wheel? I just gave one that I had to a friend, because I didn't have any time to do any more.
Oh, look, this is time-consuming, that's for sure. So, I'm sort of hoping she'll card it. I might see some of it one day. Yeah, perfect. Anyway, I thought just then about those people in that Inside Out group, and that is, what sort of things would they, you know, could we find out who they all are? I mean, there's a whole lot of them listed that are on their executive, listed in the Charities Commission, so there's a few there to start with, and there were the past executive as well, listed, should be listed there as well.
But, I mean, really, if they're getting paid a million dollars to do a consultancy work, they should have some sort of qualifications, apart from being trans or whatever, shouldn't they? I mean, they're advising the government on school curriculum. You would think that they would have to have some sort of, you know, substantial qualifications to be able to do that, and not just be a charitable group, a charity, ostensibly a charity. What makes them qualified to advise the government? I mean, honestly, otherwise any Tom, Dick and Harry can band together and apply for a consultancy job with no real qualifications.
I mean, God. Anyway, and then there was something else, but that's... So, have you written them down, and are you going to research them? Well, I'm not very good at researching. I do know somebody who's quite good, but she's a bit bowled down, and I've actually told her to stop researching, because it's making her feel ill. Anyway, you know, because some people can't handle, you know, it makes them feel down about... No, I just mean, these people, are they linked, you know, are they linked to businesses and anything? Yeah, well, that's a really interesting point.
The last time I tried to find people on the company's site, I had actually one episode, well, me and my friend had an episode of actually being shut out of the companies. We got shut out, or not really shut out, but we were online until three o'clock in the morning, linking people and certain people in certain areas of government. And then six or seven o'clock in the morning, I had a couple of hours sleep, got up, turned my computer on, everything had changed in the company's site.
And they were down for maintenance. Very, very weird that they were still all up and running at three o'clock in the morning, and gone by seven. So somebody had shut it all down. Yeah, you've got to be a bit careful about how much, you know, who you look at. There's some people there that actually don't want you to find things on them. So it's a bit hair raising. Yeah, well, yeah, they can look at, they can see what you're looking at.
And I mean, if you don't want to, if you feel nervous and anxious about it, you better not to, you know, go to the library, look on their computers, look in their books, you know, do something like that. You know, it's not to say you can't research. No, well, I can definitely try and I'll make a list of those names that are there and try and have a quick look some stage here. I'm just trying to not get too bogged down with, yeah, that sort of thing.
But I mean, I know, I know it's like, I feel as a, I feel as a duty. The other thing with the ASB is that I do believe that people should be able to make a difference with, you know, like, I'm not sure how many people it takes, that's all. But if a lot of people walked into the bank and said, right, well, I want an appointment with the manager and why, why are we being subjected to you as our bank putting pedophilia, take the research, take the, take the letter from the FBI.
I can put, I don't know where to post it actually. Somebody else found it. I've seen it before, but in the FBI, they've got a whole list of these symbols that they, that they found to be specifically used in pedophilia cases. And for the ASB to put that up on their, on their advertisement is just absolutely sickening. It's just sickening. Like, what does that tell you? I mean, it just tells you that they are all in on the pedophilia.
An interesting way, talking about, you know, using, using symbols and words, for communications to sort of say, I'm here and, or what's a good place or blah, blah, blah. There's a well-known site where you recommend places to visit. What? I believe that it's used as a, a coded site for. Yep. Oh yeah. So what they're basically saying on that advertisement, which is in the group that I'm on. Sorry, just find it. Yeah. So what, what they're basically saying is this, this pride in sports event is where these pedophilia, pedophilia-inclined people can gather.
I don't know whether they've got specific events planned in Auckland for it, but yeah, I mean, this is, yeah. Well, it's, it's a bit, it's a bit like, it's a bit like a kind of a LinkedIn, isn't it? I'm not saying LinkedIn has anything to do with that. You know, but, you know, the networking of people with shared interests. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And that, that bank was also the bank that kicked Billy Taheka's account out two years ago.
He, for no reason, had his bank accounts frozen and shut down. Was this ASB took down Billy? ASB, they took, they took his bank account away from him and they said, you're not a suitable person to have a bank account with us. And he hadn't even done anything. I mean, he was, you know, I mean, it was very slow. It wasn't even like he was in jail at that point. Right. But I mean, not that he's in jail.
It's not that he's in jail now, but I mean, you know, they've tried, haven't they? They're trying. But I mean, it's just outrageous that the bank, that it's like what Trudeau did with the truckers. Exactly the same scenario. Made the bank take away the, take the funds from people who supported the truckers, the convoys. Yeah, yeah. Well, wouldn't they? Yeah, red shoes, pizzas, ice cream, you know, a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. So we could also, if people wanted to get hold of the ASB and put some pressure on them.
I mean, I don't know how many people it takes to put, for pressure, but you know, if you're a member of another bank and you, because you don't want to, you don't want to, what do you call your own, you don't want to, you know. No, but if you've got to. If it's your bank, you want to keep it to a certain extent. So get other people to. That's right. So you could go into the bank and demand your money out in cash if you've got funds in there.
And just, and then just say, oh, if you haven't got funds, but you've got accounts, you just say that you want to close your accounts and take your money somewhere else. That's right. Because the pressure that's been brought about in America with the Bud Light of somebody else. Yeah, Nikolai was just mentioning that. The Bud Light boycott is huge, huge. Were they pushing paedophilia with it? They, no, they had a trans, transsexual person. They took the likes of Michael Jordan, who was their, you know, one of their long time, they had a long time, you know, relationship with a basketball, an actual sports person or somebody else that was an actual, actually, you know, a very good sports person.
I'm talking about Nike now, aren't I? There's two of them. There's Nike and there's Bud Light. There's two, there's two things that they've employed transsexual characters to advertise their product. And now they're having real big pushback. Yeah. So anything, really. Anything you can think of. I mean, I've got a number, I've got a phone number on there, on their website, ASB. And I mean, you can ring it. They didn't answer it when I rang it. But they, but they do say you can go to a chatbot as well.
So I mean, if thousands of people started leaving that chatbot lots of messages, it might be a bit of a wake up. Absolutely. I don't know. I don't know how. You can link it to your concerns about, you know, and kind of don't, don't leave them in a kind of a vacuum of what have we done? It's like, because we're worried about the, the. Yeah. Inform them. They probably have, you know, don't even know. Right. So it does give a chance to inform people.
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Anyway, I thought of something else to say, but now I've forgotten it. Yeah. Oh, we, we, Alicia was talking about movies before and I was thinking about, Jeff always likes to tell us about the new movies too, and it is Friday night. So we could maybe finish off with a couple of recommendations of books and movies for Friday night before we go. Well, we seem to actually, we do seem to fear sort of taking us back onto the banking road somehow.
I know, but, but, but, but, but, but we know what trouble we can get. All I was going to suggest was perhaps that you get in touch with the banking ombudsman. Yeah. Right. That's a good idea, Jeff. Very good idea. Yeah. I'm not totally radical. No, I know. I know. It was a good movie recommended by Why Can I Watch It actually called. Yeah, they're good. Good. Why can't I, hey, why can't I watch doing anything about the, you know, if every sort of small media group, if you like, because that's what we are really media groups, started talking about the curriculum, started talking about what the hell they're doing to the kids.
Yeah. So what can I watch? They're good. They've got good. Very good people. I've never seen those movies now and again. The recommended one yesterday called Living. It's not Living, L-I-V-I-N-G. It's set in London in the 1950s. It's a very good movie. It's a bit slow, but it shows you how the bureaucrats used to be. It's a good family watch actually. Okay. Okay. If you can write it in the chat, that would be really good. Alicia had one about a woke, somebody going un-woke.
I don't know what that was. What have I seen this week too? Oh, the interview between, if you've seen good interviews, you can tell us about those. The interview between Donna Pokari Phillips and I'd recommend also the Sean Plunkett and Ben Espiner. They're all in the chat, those ones, Liz. If people want to scroll back and grab them, I should do that. The other thing that I was just, I did think of something else now. So we've got in Hurleyville next week, we actually have Carl Bates from the National Party of Whanganui electorate coming to speak to people.
And so it's all starting to ramp up with political parties trying to get their election up and started. And so maybe also we need to go to as many political meetings as possible and just ask the questions because, I mean, at a small venue like Hurleyville, I'm pretty sure that I'm going to be able to ask a whole heap of questions. There won't be all that many. There might be a few people there, a few farming people, but between me and a few other people, I'm coming up with some questions for them too.
I might have to monopolise the whole night. I don't know. Oh, you might get some. Nefarious, that was the one from Alicia, is the name of it. Not seen it, but a perfect Native American movie. Not wishing to appear negative, Fee, I do wish you the best of luck at these meetings. Some time back, some friends of mine and I, we all went down to Whangarei to hear the Labour Party woman. And you always find that if you ask them a question, they won't answer it.
They'll go on to something else because they don't want to answer what you're asking them. And that is always the problem. That's a good point, Jeff, but even if they don't answer the question, what it does is it highlights to the rest of the people at the venue that is a problem. And so I actually believe that even if we just go along and ask questions out loud where other people can hear you're asking a question, they might not even know anything about the school curriculum problems, these things coming up.
But if I go down there and I say in front of 50 or 100 people, I want to know what the National Party is going to do about this transgender, woke. I mean, actually, I probably need to write this all down so that I can get the question right. But to explain the situation to the other 150 or people in the hall first, and then if he doesn't answer it, they're all going to say that he didn't answer it and that'll let them know.
But at least then they'll start thinking, oh, my God, what's all that about? Because I think that's the problem. A lot of people, they've just got this bit of a world. It's like go to work, get your money, try and pay your bills, whatever, you know, and then they don't see what's going on, especially if you've got no kids at school now, which I don't. I don't have any kids at school, haven't for a while, to be honest.
Yeah. So, you know, there's a lot of parents, as they said the other day, you know, like last week, whatever Dora was saying, some of the parents, the younger people, didn't actually see the problem with the stuff that was going on in the school. I'm like, well, how the hell are they not seeing that? Where are the heads? Yeah. This is not in New Zealand, but it's kind of topical. I'm going to get an interview with a guy, he's Irish, and he's got about 5,000 on his platform in the UK about allodium, about 1649.
We were trying to get it done before Charles gets coronated. It'll be our Sunday, of course. So you mean chlorinated? Chlorinated, yeah. I was thinking of cremated, actually. Well, you know, he's probably getting a good dose of the corona. Okay. Go up and what do they call it? Combustion. Spontaneous combustion. Yeah, well, wouldn't that be amazing? Absolutely. Wouldn't that be amazing? And they went into a melt, you know, they go into it, they begin to combust and then they kind of melt down and all that's left is a puddle of oil on the floor from the inside out.
I'm sorry, I've got to go, folks. I do enjoy our meetings, but I've got to go and earn a crust. So see you all Wednesday. Thanks, Steve. See you Wednesday. Bye. Yeah, so my friend in the UK has arranged it. So it's going to be Monday night. It'll be 10 o'clock our time. So I'll have, it'll be a bit of a later one, but I don't know when it'll, you know, when I'll be able to, or maybe we can, if it's a live one, maybe I'll find out, you know, how you can link in and see it.
Yeah, that'd be great, Liz, and we can share the link. Is it going to be a Zoom? Yeah, as far as I know. Will it be on here then? Uh, no, no. It's, the guy who's got the platform is in the UK. He's Irish, apparently. Right, right. What's his, is it Alistair? What's his name, Liz? Is it Alistair? I don't, I mean, this guy's following is about 5,000. In the UK, 5,000's not much. No, I don't remember what his name is, but yeah, I think.
Oh, you mean, there's a few people talking about, you know, the fact that, in terms of what Charles is refusing to do, his own constitution, I believe he's not, he doesn't want to swear on the Bible, or he doesn't want to take the oath, he doesn't want to do, you know. Mm, yep. He's intimately linked to the WES. Oh, definitely. Now, he was around when it started. Yep, definitely. Yeah, I'll get my, I'll get the details off my friend in the UK, because she was the one who actually found for me when I was doing, because I've always had an interest, well, not always, but when I was at university, I did a paper called Two English Revolutions, and it was, the first one was, you know, what we know as the English Civil War, and the second one was 1688, what they called the Glorious Revolution, which was basically, they, you've got a constitutional monarchy.
Before, before the, pre the constitutional monarchy, for those 10 years of what they called the interregnum, that would have been a constitutional, was it a republic? Because the constitution wasn't really clear. No, I know, I think that's possibly why, if, if, if the Cromwell and the, and the Grandies, the military, had a, had, you know, a sort of a, what you call an intellectual, um, I don't know, a kind of a, a plan about, well, how are you going to, how are you going, what, what's in place of the king, basically.
They tried to make, they tried to make Cromwell king, and it was said he turned it down. I'm not sure that that was the case. I do know that an ancestor of mine opposed him becoming king. He was, an ancestor of mine was in the, high up in the army. So, because they didn't want to replace, you know, here we go again, one king with another, one crown with another. Everybody wants to be the king, right? Can't have it, can't have it.
It's too dangerous a position. In my view, the Americans replaced the king with the president, because the president has far too much power in that country, far too much power. They are the ones who make the executive orders on their own. The executive orders here come out of cabinet, right? So, it's kind of like, it is a shared, it is supposedly a shared responsibility, whether Jacinda just did stuff on her own. I don't think she had the brains to do stuff on her own, and, you know, make executive decisions.
But in the States, and I'm sure that the American presidents don't have the brains to make decisions on their own either, but they do have the power. They do have the power. So, you know, and it's too dangerous. It's far too dangerous. I mean, you might like Trump, or you might like Biden, or you might like John F. Kennedy, or you might like Martin Luther King, or whoever might have been, you know, president of the United States, or the potential to be.
You might like Mahatma Gandhi. You might like Abraham Lincoln, but no one man or woman should have that power. No. So, you know, that's just why. And the only way they can get the power is through having a political party stand behind them. Doing all of the, you know, propaganda to get them there. So that's why, you know, I say cut political parties off at the legs. Yeah, yeah, he's pretty awful. Doesn't know he's in power.
I think he knows when he gets his dose of God knows what. They give him to keep him still standing. But yeah, okay, we won't talk too much more politics. So I go on, Charles is dead. Whoever's taking his place is cloned. Oh, I don't know. Well, whatever. You know, we've got to deal to the clones if that's the case. We've got to wake up the English. Wake up the Americans. Wake up the New Zealanders and the Australians.
The Australians are doing pretty good though. Australians are doing good. Okay, Fee, you've got your hand up. Did you want to say good night? Okay, okay, good night all. Good night. Okay, good night. Awesome. Thanks, everyone. Okay, thanks, everyone. Thanks for coming. See you on Wednesday. French are doing well. What's happening, Nikolai? What's happening in France? Oh, major riots and French protests going on. Because of course they had their 1st of May is, you know, like the 1st of summer or whatever.
They've had big protests in about three cities, three or four big cities in Paris. Are the yellow vests reigniting? I don't know about yellow vests, but there's definitely a lot of people out. A lot of people protesting. Well, that started with Macron saying that he was going to push out the retirement age so they wouldn't get detention until they were 65, because they're at 63. Slaves don't retire. They die in harness, you know. So they got out on the streets about that, and then they've made it about everything else as well.
Some of the police and the firemen also joined them. It was really good. Great. Okay. Excellent. Excellent. Keep us all informed about movements throughout the countries, especially if you come from those places. The Dutch farmers have done a great job. Yes, the police have joined with the people in France. Fantastic. Dutch farmers, right? Hooray! Yeah. I don't know what it's going to take to get New Zealanders on the streets again. We might surprise everybody yet. You never know.
Well, I don't know of any other country that's got half as good a union as New Zealand's got with the number eight workers union. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Not biased at all. No, but yeah, it's just a matter of people realising that... Somebody told me that Groundswell were really getting involved in trying to go and sort out beef and lamb, New Zealand beef and lamb, because they had signed up to Heiwaka, Ekenoa, without really a remit from the farmers.
You know, they just went ahead and signed it all up, sort of thing, and followed along with the programme without really consulting the people growing the beef and lamb. Well, New Zealand beef and lamb are a corporation. You know, they're a for-profit corporation. They're not part of the government, you know, so they're going to sign up with the UN, aren't they? Yeah, that's what farmers need to realise. Well, they're supposed to be working, you know, for the farmers, so, you know, to sell our produce.
Smoke and iron, I think, yeah. Yeah. Oh, and it's going to be, apparently, and what stirred both myself and Kelvin Alpendatch, and was a query from Stuff magazine about, obviously trying to do a hit piece about New Freeland. So, we're going to be doing, I don't know, Kelvin will have to tell me when that's going to happen, because Countess Spinner is going to actually talk about New Freeland in the near future. Now, the Elodio, I believe, is the answer to the problem with the SNAs, with the Three Waters, even with co-governance in the end, because really what's behind co-governance is land grabbing.
Yeah, so, yeah, that's going to happen in the near future. Liz, getting back to the thing that you're doing on Monday, will you have that up on a live recording? As I say, I just arranged it. Oh, okay. It was about three o'clock this morning, actually. Okay. You don't sleep, do you? I went to bed early, and I woke up at three o'clock, and my friend in the UK, of course, it's three o'clock in the afternoon or something, and she said, so she's telling me, because she's wanting to go Elodio on her place in the UK, and she's had a summons from the court, and I want to see the summons from the court, and we've been talking about it all year, and she said, and we were saying, you know, really the people in England need to be told before the coronation what's up.
But anyway, we couldn't get it organised, but she said, she was wondering, she said, I've got this friend, and he's got a following of 5,000, and do you want me to see if he'll do an interview? I said, yeah, sure, and then she just messaged me later in the day and said, oh, he can't do Friday night, he's doing Glastonbury or something, and everybody can do Monday night, so well, Monday, nine o'clock their time, 10 o'clock at night our time.
Maybe on the 11th hour, we never know. Cool. Oh, well, I'm interested in that for sure. I'm just desperate, desperate to get out of the system. Oh, Liz, you're disappearing. Oh, Liz's internet's gone very unstable. It's frozen. Frozen. Yep, Amanda, if you're living anywhere near Hamilton, Amanda, Shores Bird Park is the place to be. They're hoping that's going to turn into the next Friday. Oh, a big protest. Yep. Oh, right. They want 20,000 people there to try and stop what's going on.
And this is, they're trying to close it down. They're stealing the land. They're building three bridges. They're inserting 200 French people into the Hamilton City Council. What? Yep, exactly. How? They're stealing, I can't remember how many hectares it is. I've already been in there and chopped trees down, and they want to build three bridges and a road that is completely unnecessary. All they need to do is upgrade the roads they have. Yeah, so anybody who can share that, what I put in the chat there, the links for that, greatly appreciated.
Those people have been there for decades, and the Council's just basically stealing their land. God. Under the Public Works Act, which is a load of. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Yep. Yep. Okay, well, let's sign off, because I don't think Liz is coming back. She completely disappeared, didn't she? Yep, yep. So, yeah, I hope you all have a good weekend. Okay. Catch you next week. Awesome. Thanks, everyone. Bye.
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