N8WUNZ 20230224 (F) It was Never Lawful or Legal

The speaker discusses various orders and regulations issued by Dr. Ashley Bloomfield, Director General of Health in New Zealand. They mention the Health and Safety at Work Act and the Health Act, and how these orders and regulations may be illegal or unlawful. The speaker also mentions finding information about Dr. Bloomfield and the gazette. They highlight the importance of designated people and proper authorization for medical procedures like vaccinations. The speaker expresses their belief that Dr. Bloomfield and others involved may be facing legal consequences for their actions. It's going. I'll do Facebook as well, so no one misses out. How's things going, Liz? Oh, toppingly, spittingly. I just don't know where to begin. We have got so much stuff on our side now. That's fantastic. I don't know if people got to watch the Wednesday night, whether they got to watch the Wednesday night Zoom. Yes, I definitely did. Good, good. So you know all about section 191 of the, thank you Kevin, you know all about section 191 of the Health and Safety at Work Act, which basically even once there's some sort of something going on that, you know, the state would be involved in, in terms of health and safety, you actually have to authorise or designate people to kind of be the boss of it, if you like. And it's the CEO, and of course remember, when we're dealing in the space of the Health and Safety at Work Act, all of the language that has been used in the orders is under the Health and Safety at Work Act. They never actually name it, and I think that was another little thing to throw us off the track a little bit. But Anyway, I started talking in the last Zoom about the New Zealand Gazette, and the New Zealand Gazette has become my favourite magazine. I started to, I thought, well I'll do some printing off of some of the stuff I found in terms of, say, notices in the Gazette, because under section 191, of course the first thing I, the first thing that I wanted to find out was, was Dr Bloomfield, for a start, ever gazetted to do anything under the Health and Safety at Work Act? He's a, you know, because the thing is, this was a, you know, and they said it was a public health issue. Why were people doing, you know, carrying out actions that were mediated or basically under the Health and Safety at Work Act, right? Which, of course, in every case, and especially in the case of a, in the case of a vaccination, completely illegal under the Health Act 1956. Now, I just saw, read this afternoon, a judgment. I'm not going to talk about the judgment. We're going to talk about the judgment itself, and I won't even tell you who it is, okay? But that we had our first, I would call it the, I would call it judicial notice of section 92i of the Health Act 1956, right? So, and I will read the paragraph for you, I think. I'm going to leave out a few of the words. I think I've got it on here. Yep. You can still hear me okay, eh? You can still hear me? Yep. Yeah, I'm clear. Couldn't hear the other voices. Okay, well I'll go to the paragraph where the judge starts talking about the Health Act 1956 and what he has to say about section 92i. What did I have? Paragraph 46. I made some notes. As I say, I just got this judgment, got to look at this judgment this afternoon, read it through about half an hour ago, and this is really interesting because member section 92i of the public, sorry, it's called the Health Act 1956, relates to, there is to be no, he doesn't actually name, he refers to it as section 92i5. Right, what does he say? Sorry, it takes me a little while to get this working when I've got a Zoom on. Okay. Okay, come up here. We also got with this judgment a definite, you know, we won the point on is a, is somebody like a, won't say that, is someone like a tennis club, I'll say that, is someone like a tennis club a PCBU? And the answer was yes. If they employ anybody, and of course we know that all of these clubs employ somebody. So, you know, I mean, a lot of good stuff. Right, Health Act 1956. The plaintiff claims that section 92i5 of the Health Act imposes a positive duty on public bodies not to compel an individual to submit to compulsory medical treatment. Okay, I'll just leave that for the moment, so that's what I'll say in that one. Section 92i applies to directions issued by a medical officer for health. Actually, there's a typo here too. The judges put medial, obviously means medical. Okay, not often that you get a typo in these ones, but anyway, here we go. No defendant in this case was acting as a medical officer of health, nor were they undertaking any public role. All defendants are connected with tennis, which is a recreational activity, and no defendant required the plaintiff to undergo medical treatment. Okay, that's what I'll say about that paragraph. Okay, now when you're reading this, what you're finding out is that how section 92i applies. So it applies to a medical officer for health. It applies to a public body carrying out a public role, say a DHB, etc. Okay, and it applies to people who are requiring someone to undergo a medical treatment. Now, of course, we know that section 92i forbids any of those things to happen. Okay, but here's a really cool thing. So, paragraph 47. The plaintiff's allegation that section 92i5 has been breached is essentially a Bill of Rights claim, which, as I've already found, is not justiciable in the district court. Okay, that's fine. We can argue about that later, where it's justiciable. Okay, however, what it does tell us is that we are right on every point. Right, now, I think you guys are going to have a lovely time swimming in the sea of the New Zealand Gazette. Whilst I was looking to see if Bloomfield Bloomers was actually ever designated under section 191 of the Health and Safety Workout to do any of these things, I came across this. It must have been to do with the... Have we got it? I sent you some emails. Did you get... Are you able to click on that one? Yep, I'll go get it. I think I've headed it something like persons authorised to perform vaccinations. Oh, goodness. Yep. I think it might have been the first one I sent you. That probably will be the subject line, Emma. So, a Gazette notice for people allowed to perform TB vacs. Is that it? Yeah, that'll be it. Yep. Yep. Okay. So, can people see that if you click onto it? Is that possible? Oh, I see. I'll just... So, click on the link. Oh, so you want me to go to the Gazette? Yep. Yep. Absolutely. There we go. How about that? Great. Where's it gone? Oh, there we go. Come back on Gazette. You guys are going to get really familiar with this. The Gazette, it's got the most delicious things in it. Recipes for us. Yes. Okay. As I say, I can't recall exactly what search is in, but I'll tell you, for the stuff I found out about Mr Bloomfield, I just put in Ashley Bloomfield and I got a whole lot of stuff. Anyway, so this was a Gazette back on the 17th of March, which I think is St Patrick's Day actually, 1994. Now, I was talking a bit about it in the last Zoom and saying, oh, it was 1974. It must have been, yeah, she must have risen in the ranks quickly, but no, it was 1994 this was. So, there must have been a bit of an outbreak of TB in the public in 1994. So, I do recall that there always has been TB around, but it doesn't tend to break out because most people have immunity to it. Okay. And we all got tested for it when we were at school and it didn't. But anyway, this is what they had. So, they had approval of persons authorised to perform vaccinations against tuberculosis pursuant to Regulation 6.4 of the Tuberculosis Regulations 1951. So, if you want to highlight that, put it into your browser, you'll get those regulations up and you can have a look at them yourself. Okay. So, there must have been an act, possibly 1950 or 1951. Usually the regulations come out about a year or the same year as the actual, you know, the regulations and the act often come out at the same year. Or sometimes the regulations will follow on a year later, as is the case with regulations under the Health and Safety at Work Act. The regulations under that act came out in 2016. So, they're called the Health and Safety at Work General Risk and Management Regulations 2016. So, those are always named in clauses, right? Okay. So, under regulations and orders, it's always clauses. Under Acts of Parliament, it's sections. Okay. So, there would have been an Act of Parliament sometime around 1951 or 1950, possibly called the Health Act. Not sure. Okay. Tuberculosis in New Zealand, right? Somebody's already researching. This is lovely stuff for researching. And the Director General of Health. Now, that was also the name of Bloomis. He was the Director General of Health, I believe. So, they have to put their stuff into the Gazette. So, here's a good example. So, remember, this is 1994. They're making, they're basically designating people in the Gazette, giving their names. They already had, in 1993, there had been a list of people already there. So, it gives you the date of February 1993, number 18, at page 332. Okay. So, that was the previous one. This is the one now. The page number of this one is 1115. You see that down the bottom. So, they've been approved as qualified to perform vaccinations against tuberculosis in accordance with those regulations. So, you have to actually get a set of regulations under the Health Act, by the look of things, to perform vaccinations in a public health setting. Okay. You can't perform them at work. We know that. We know you can perform them at doctors, surgeries, etc., etc. That is a private setting, basically. Okay. But this is it. And, you know, public health, you know, people have gone along voluntarily and got jabbed for all sorts of stuff. But when it's a public health, not shopping malls, no, Lou. So, when it's a public health matter, which they keep saying this was, you're supposed to have a set of regulations, right? And then you're supposed to have these people designated. Now, if it's a health and safety at work matter, you designate people to deal with it, whatever it is, under Section 191. So, you can see all this, I'm sure. I'm going to get you guys to ask me questions so I can see if you've got this. Okay. So, who got qualified in accordance with these regulations? Zola June Asom, public health nurse. Now, we'll remember these names because some people might know these people, right? They'll be around. This is 1994. As I say, one of these I know. And she'll be still around. She'll be a couple of years older than me. Elizabeth Gray, public health nurse. Mary Elizabeth Hayes, nurse. Philippa Hitchcock, occupational health nurse. Margaret Rose Ibbitson, nurse. Megan Ingalls, public health nurse. Sue Jolly, occupational health nurse. Phyllis Kwan, public health nurse. Robin Marion Little, nurse. Pamela Nielsen, public health nurse. Pauline Faye Osmond, nurse. Margaret Purley, nurse. Linda Rhodes, I know Linda Rhodes, midwife. Edith Sharp, in fact, she was going to deliver my third child. But she didn't because it wasn't on the island. She wasn't born on the island. Edith Sharp, public health nurse. Edwin Whiteside, medical practitioner. And it was dated at Wellington the 7th day of March 1994. Giving vaccinations in a public health setting is a very, very serious thing to do. Right? These clowns had none of this permission. Right. So I thought I'd have a look. I'll just enlighten it and I'll tell you some, oh no, first we'll talk a little bit more of what you can find about, find about bloomers on the, what other sorts of stuff people are doing. So I just put in the search Ashley Bloomfield and there was so much stuff I didn't, I didn't go through it all. But here's one of the things, right. Correganum, which is a, and it's a full, Correganum is apparently something to fix a mistake in a written document. Full exemption of certain COVID-19 point of care tests under the COVID-19 public health response point of care tests order. Okay. Pursuant to clause 9 of the COVID-19 public health response point of care tests order, because remember all of this is secondary legislation, all goes into the, all goes into the, the magazine, the gazette. I, Dr. Ashley Bloomfield, Director General of Health, there we go, that's him, exempt the following point of care rapid antigen tests from all prohibitions under clause 7 of the order. So they were sort of, remember they were letting some in and stopping some others and saying, no, you have to get, you have to get that thing stuck up your nose. These ones are all nasal swabs he's exempting, right. So he's letting the nasal swabs in. And the first one was SARS-CoV-2 antigen rapid test from China, Nanjing Liming Bioproducts Company Limited, China. Nasal swab. It's a professional or self-test of any package size. Yeah, it's that thing, you know, rapid antigen testing. The other, the second one was CloGene COVID-19 rapid antigen rapid test. Hangzhou CloGene Biotech Company Limited, China. Okay. And then there was another one from Indicaid COVID-19 rapid antigen test, Phase 3 Scientific International Limited, Hong Kong and United States of America. Okay. So that's the sort of stuff he was putting his moniker to. Here's an interesting one. Classification of medicines. This one was the 27th of July, 2022. Pursuant to Section 106.1 of the Medicines Act 1981, I, Ashley Bloomfield, Director General of Health, acting under delegated authority, hereby declare the following. Delegated authority, that's an interesting one. Yeah, so this one is a delegated authority. So I don't know who's getting this off. And medicines listed in Schedule 1 of this notice are classified as prescription medicines. Medicines listed in Schedule 2 to this notice are classified as restricted. Okay. So, in accordance with Section 106.2 of the Act to the extent that this. Okay. Prescription medicines. Molnupiravir is a prescription medicine except when specified elsewhere in the schedule. And in Schedule 2, it becomes a restricted medicine for use in the treatment of COVID-19. The second one is Nirmatriliva, except when specified in the schedule. In Schedule 2, it becomes a restricted medicine for the use in the treatment of COVID-19. Ritonavir also is okay in the schedule, but it's not for the use in treatment of COVID-19. When you go and do a search on those three, they're all antivirals. So they wanted Paxilla as the one that everybody used. And so they knocked all of the other ones out. Okay. So this was another, you know, the crimes that this man is going to be up for is horrendous. What else did they do? Pursuant to Clause 30 and Clause 11 of the COVID-19 Public Health Response Self-Isolation Requirements and Permitted Work Order 2022, I, Dr. Ashley Green, I, Dr. Ashley Greenfield, blah, blah, blah. Here's why I specified that for the purposes of the order, a relevant person must undergo medical examination and testing for COVID-19 under Clause 11A of the order and report the results of the testing to the Ministry of Health. Okay. So this is all about testing yourself and the household and your dog, pets and everything like that. The man has got nothing to do with what goes on in your house. Might squeeze in, possibly, might squeeze in that one under, you know, as a Director General of Health. Yeah. Might get that one. That sort of stuff. Evidence of vaccination for the purpose of the Maritime Border Order. Pursuant to Clauses 13 and 31C of the COVID-19 Public Health Response Maritime Border Order, he specified the following to be the form of evidence that must be produced. A record of having received one or more COVID vaccines that shows the name of the affected person. I'm going to be using all of this in my court case. The brand name of the vaccine, blah, blah. The name of the government or organisation. The government or organisation. Oh, so some people went overseas and they got their vaccine. Or organisation who administered the vaccine or issued the proof of vaccination. The date on which the affected person received the most recent dose. In the case of multiple dose schedules, the number and series of doses, blah, blah, blah, blah. It can be in a digital or paper form. Okay. So he's up to his neck in it. Not allowed, and the title of this tonight is, it was neither lawful or legal, right? This is all of the legal stuff, right, that we're seeing here. The lawful stuff is kind of basically in the Health Act, for example, where it says you're not allowed to do it. That's the law. This is the legal stuff that they've been using to cover up the fact that they haven't. But they also didn't do the most important thing that they were supposed to do legally was to get themselves designated and have it here. Yep. Under the Health and Safety Work Act, by the way. Because they would have had to, see, every time, under, he's issuing them under some sort of order. You notice that one that we looked at where, you know, I talked about the persons who were, they were doing it under regulations. Those regulations must have been made under an Act. And my, and you guys can do some research this weekend, find out which Act those regulations were under. Evidence of vaccination for a maritime border order. That's the same one. Specification of form and content of notice of arrival for ships. So they set up these orders and that's what everybody gets focused on, right? Comes under an Act. So you can set up orders. Yeah, you can do that. And then you get into all sorts of stuff where you've got no business. Liz, can you back up a bit? The regulations that you're mentioning, was that? The regulations I was talking about were in that first one I read to you about approval of persons authorising vaccinations. They were, they were the Tuberculosis Regulations 1951. Yeah, so if you go on the link that I just posted in the chat, Erica, there's a little box you can click on that takes you to the regulations or anybody else that wants to do it. Yeah, so I just put the link to the Gazette article where it, yeah, and then the regulations links there as well. Okay, perfect. Thank you. So, you know, all the stuff about, he's getting into everybody's workplaces, ordering the workplaces about, right? Under the Health and Safety at Work Act, by the way. But they never mention the Health and Safety at Work Act in here, do they? Not a peep. It's all about the orders. They were keeping it quiet, Liz. Yeah, well, it's interesting because in this new, this new, this new decision we've got, there's plenty of, there's plenty of talk about the workers and, you know, in a workplace and blah, blah, blah. That's awesome. Oh, yeah, yeah. Specification of form and content of notice of arrival for ships. So they have to have a notice between 168 and 192 hours notice before the ship arrives in New Zealand, or if this is not practicable, when the ship departs. And they have to, oh, this one was another one too, which I didn't print out, but it was letting ships come in and they didn't have to, they had to notify if they had anything else but COVID-19 on, but if they had COVID-19 on them, they didn't have to notify. So, so they couldn't be, they could be quarantined if they had some other quarantinable thing on, you know, disease on board, but if they had COVID-19 on board, they didn't have to quarantine. Bloody hell. Awesome. Yep. Oh, man, this is just, I mean, it's just mind blowing. So, yeah. Yeah, and what do they say for the, you know, they've got everybody filling out all of their forms, right? So question 13, I understand my requirement to notify a medical officer of health, so there must be more than one, of the results of any compulsory COVID-19 testing on board this vessel, and that failing to do so is a high risk of infringement offence. These people giving the orders to everybody are nothing but charlatans. Yep. Are nothing but charlatans. Chills. I like the word chill, because that's a, an accomplice to a trickster. Oh, okay. Okay. Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Yes, so pretty much, I wanted to draw this to your attention because it's an absolute, it's an absolute, you know, treasure trove. A lot of this stuff will be used in the various cases we take. Oh, one more thing. One more thing. Where is it? While I was looking, I was also looking at an airport. I was looking at not just the border, I was looking at not just the border orders. Well, border orders were for the air borders and, where is it now? I've got one. Okay, what's the nematode, Alicia? The border order for, that I sent you guys a little, I think I sent it to our group this afternoon, and it's, it's the air border order. But basically, it had a number of schedules with it. Oh, I see it. Yep. You've got it? Yep. Can you read that one out to us, please? So the COVID-10 public health response air border order 2021, clause 13, must be vaccinated or be excused or exempt. Three, a person is exempt if they are G, are a citizen of Afghanistan, and arrive in New Zealand on or before the 12th of December 2022, or H, are an arrival from Ukraine. Now, that's G and H, okay? So, of course, there were a number of other people who were exempt, people like New Zealanders coming home, and Australians whose main place of residence was New Zealand. So how come we've got the Afghanis and the Ukrainians in there as well? Could it be something political, do you think? No, surely not. I think it might have been a political setup. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I think the permanent residents might have been in there too, Erica. You'd have to go to that order and go down it and have a look. It's going to be very interesting for our members who are part of Air New Zealand, I'd say. Oh, Erica, do you want to tell us about what we found out the other day, the day before yesterday, I think it was, it might have been yesterday, about the engineers down in Christchurch and what they had to say about the Health and Safety at Work Act. Oh, yeah, so I got shared a, they sent a provisional improvement notice, which is a lesson out of your pages, Liz, and Chris' list, and they sent it in October 2021. Now, I'm waiting to still find out what the outcome of that was and where that provisional improvement notice was followed up, right? I mean, they sent it to, you know, the chief executive, they sent it to HR, operations, all the managers, and I don't know where it was taken to. Was it taken to an employment relations case? Was it taken to a mediation? We don't really know, but it says in accordance with the Health and Safety at Work Act. Part 3, sub part 4, I have issued this pin. This was a person who said they were the HSR, which is, I assume, the Health and Safety rep. The rules are when there's 20 or more employees, you can have a work group. Right, I'm guessing, maybe there wasn't 20 engineers in Christchurch. I'm not really sure. So, the provisional improvement notice said there are critical questions around the safety and effectiveness of the Pfizer jab. And these questions have yet to be answered and consultation has not been satisfactorily completed. The chief medical officer has failed to provide sufficient data to substantiate the claim that the vaccine is safe and effective and the risk of adverse events are rare. There's a few lists of some serious adverse events. One of them said that, I'm not sure if I should read this, that a contract person had actually died on site. This is in the provisional improvement notice. It's all going to come out in the wash. Yeah. Yeah. They want to deny it. Or dismissed as rare or coincidental. I mean, I guess a contractor doesn't come under the employee. It comes under the Health and Safety at Work Act. No, it all comes under the Health and Safety at Work Act. Remember, contractors and employees. Remember, this is not a union. A contractor is covered by the Health and Safety at Work Act and an employee. What about a visitor? This is a work group. So you don't have to be, oh yeah, I guess, I guess, but you've got a responsibility as a worker. You've got a responsibility to other people who are coming on site. When I visit Pagansay, there's no forklifts flying up and down the aisles with pallets delivering things. I'm not a worker. I'm not a contractor. I'm a visitor. I'm a customer, actually. But they have a duty not to bang into me with a forklift, which I know they do after hours. You know, they drive around with their forklifts and people stop shelves. So, yes, anyway, this provisional improvement notice has got everything in it. It's got Section 10 of the Health and Safety at Work Act. It's got Section 58, duty to engage with workers. Section 59, nature of engagement. Section 60, when engagement is required. Section 76, display of provisional improvement notice. So the notice was put up and no one's allowed to take it down. It's an absolute beauty for when, once we start, you know, you're in your workplaces, you form your groups, or, you know, you can get a group together and you use these sorts of things as a model. So, yeah, so we don't know what happened about it. But those things are to be displayed to the public anyway. So there's nothing secret about it. So Air New Zealand can tear their hair out as much as they want. Because, in fact, who did we have who was supposed to get in touch with for Air New Zealand? I think it was the, sorry, the people who were the boarder. It was a different CEO. And I don't believe that person is being designated either. What's the name of them? Someone from, we'd have to go, I have the list of everybody's name. That was, what's his name? What's the name of the organisation that oversees the air transport? Oh, the Civil Aviation Authority. Civil Aviation, yeah, it was that one, that person. Okay, so can you look at that? Where is it? It's in the vaccination order, I believe. And I think it's, I think it's Clause 8. I can't remember which clause it is. Go back and have a look. You might have to go back, that vaccination order 2021. You might have to go back, because they started, you know, they stopped it all after a while. And then they repealed it, and you don't see who it is. Remember there's the three tabs along the top, and you've got the one with versions. Go back, click on the versions, and you can go back to a time when you can find out who was the top dog, who was supposed to be designated according to Section 191. I just had a look now, and it's someone called Keith Minch. That's him, that's him. Okay, so Keithy boy, I hope you have a good weekend, because we're on to your case. Awesome. And what is his, what's his title? So he is the Director of Civil Aviation and the Chief Executive. Okay, while you've got it up there, Emma, do you want to tell us who the other, you know, the other people in the spotlight are? Who's the MIQ people? I think one of them is, because they had a shared job between them. One was, one was to do with the Defence Force, I think. So was that the Ministry of something? Ministry of Transport, maybe, or? It's the CEO, though, it's not the, it's not the Minister. Oh, that's... Oh, no, it's not written on there. Sorry, it's not written on there. You have to go, you have to do a search on each of them and find out who's who. But Minch, Minch was... Minch is, oh, the dingbat that was at Waihi. Is that him? Oh, Wood. Is that him? Michael Wood. Yeah. Minister of Transport. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't think he's the CEO, right? Oh, okay. Well, maybe, maybe they had, no, no, he wouldn't have been. Oh, here we go. Audrey Sonason. Okay. Oh, no, that's, oh, yeah, Secretary for Transport and Chief Executive. Yeah, that's her. Yeah. And what else have we got? Hang on a minute, I'll just write these down. Because I have them all. So we got MIQ was who? Oh, now, what would you call MIQ? What's MIQ? Oh, it's quarantine. It's that quarantine. It's the very first one on the list. Because I put MIQ and it just came out with some other random stuff. Corrections is Jeremy Lightfoot. Or was, and I mean, if they've changed, they're still in the target. They're still the target, right? Corrections, we got Bloomfield, we know him. He was apparently the guy who was supposed to issue the exemptions for MB. Who is the CEO of MB? Carol Tremaine. Carol Tremaine. Yeah. I don't know whether you wanted that one. Yeah, and what's she involved in? Yeah, so that's MB, I think. Does that make sense? Who is the CEO of MB New Zealand? Carol Tremaine, Chief Executive. Which was she linked to, though? I don't know. It's just when I was searching. Because I put, I was trying to find the MIQ one, but I don't think I'm putting the right thing in. What's she say on the order? Oh, which, so the COVID-19 orders. Yeah, that one where we've got, you know, we've got, because the corrections I know is Jeremy Lightfoot. Bloomfield was, I think, the education sector. And the, see, this is the thing too. I mean, even if, you know, this sort of handing over to all of these CEOs. They're not allowed to do it either. It's against the law. This is what I'm saying. All of this obfuscation with legalese and, you know, talking about orders and regulations and everything. But you've got to have, it's got to be a lawful thing that you're doing in the first place. And, of course, as you know, we're using the Health and Safety at Work Act as our bible, right? So, as you can see with that pin notice that Erica was telling us about before and reading that out. All right. You're given the notification and they've got to take notice of it, basically. That's all there is to it. Yeah. So they're bound by that act. The PCBU is bound. Yeah. Yeah. Erica's got her hand up. Yeah. Hi, Erica. Yeah. It's actually me. I really don't know why it's Cara's. Hi, Cara. It's Sharon Glass. Hi. So I don't actually want to interrupt your meeting, but I just want to draw something to people's attention. Liz already knows. Yes. You were going to talk about something too. I'm sorry. Yeah. If you were comfortable. No, I'm not. It's not on the same point, isn't it? Yeah. Look, so I'm Sharon Glass. I'm one of the advocates that works with the union, for those of you who don't know me, because I don't always come on the Zoom. Something's come to my attention of late that I find really concerning. And so anyone who has school-aged children or people who know those who do probably won't be best pleased with it either. And it's the kind of statutory overreach that we are getting rather accustomed to seeing. So a couple of weeks ago I saw, because I know a lot of people in the freedom movement, someone alerted me to the fact that there's the HPV vaccine. Some new formulation of it is being rolled out to young children, you know, like 12-year-olds generally and intermediates in high schools. And they're saying, you know, the person who made that, who let me know, said that nurses are being paid an incentive payment to, like a bonus, to vaccinate children. And that nurses can actually make a decision that a child is competent to consent for themselves despite a parent's lack of consent. So I was already concerned about this. And then my son, who's 12, came home from school yesterday and told me that his teacher told him he needed to return his form and that even if I didn't consent as a parent, he might choose to consent himself. So naturally I was rather enraged. So I went to school this morning and had a conversation with the only person who was available to me today, which was the deputy principal, and put her on notice that they are, I told her, when my children come to school you assume responsibility for them. So they are at the moment acting as a conduit, you know, so that the Minister of Health can then come in and make a vaccine available to children. And I told her that they have responsibility and it's them I will come after if anything happens in relation to my children. Yes, that school is not authorised to make health decisions for our children. And I told her this, I said, I could just have kept my children home on those particular days, but I'm so infuriated. This is such a statutory overreach. And, you know, it is unacceptable that the Ministry of Health is coming and I said, you're letting them in. You're a separate agency. You have to make your own decisions. And I told her, because she said ordinarily all the children go into an assembly and discuss the vaccine and then those children who are being vaccinated are administered it. And I said, well, but why are all the children present? Like this is a parental decision. And we need to stop taking parental rights away from parents. And I told her it's your job. You should be matching the forms that are brought in by the students whose parents have consented to the children. Yeah, I know. To the children who are to be vaccinated. And then none of the other children should be having any contact with the public health nurse. Right. So there should be no coercion. And I also told her what I do for a job. And I said, you know, we're now getting settlements in relation to the coercion that was given to teachers. And it's very similar to what we're seeing here where it's the same premise. What was her reaction to it? Oh, no, she was really amenable. But I mean, I told her because she knows what's going on. Our mainstream media are dishonest. They are complicit. You know what? She's not an unintelligent woman. And I don't think she's uninformed. But. Yes, that's right. I told her, you know, you have to make a decision. If you feel like this is wrong, then you can't stand by and do nothing about it. You end up getting sued. Right. That's what I told her. That's exactly what I told her I will do. But I think I just want to alert people because clearly this is. I told her they should be deeply concerned. I told her you should be deeply concerned because she tried to reassure me in the first instance that this wouldn't happen. And I told her if a teacher is saying to a child, you may decide of your own volition to consent anyway. Then where are they getting that information from? Why is it that the teacher has that earnest belief that a student can make their own decision? You know what? That's concerning. They're getting that from the Ministry of Health. That is coming down from somewhere. Yeah. Well, that is a lie by the Ministry of Health because we know about the Care of Children Act. Mm hmm. 2004, section 36. Mm hmm. It's quite clear that children are not allowed to give consent to medical, apart from abortions for females. Absolutely. Under 16. Absolutely. It's an outrage, right? I don't know what the hell they're doing in other countries, but that's the law in New Zealand. I think we've departed so far from the law at this point. I know. It is lawless as hell, this country. But that's all right. We still have the courts. And even when they don't agree with us, sometimes they give us all sorts of guidance, whether they know it or not. Yes, I just really wanted to alert people to that. Yeah. They can pass that on that that is actually a legitimate concern. It's been borne out by evidence. My child couldn't think of this if he spent the whole day thinking about it. It's not something a child could create on their own. It seems absolutely legitimate and credible to me. And it's grooming, quite frankly, as well. Right. You know that this HPV is human pap… Yes. What's it called? Papillomavirus. Papillomavirus. You get it from sexual intercourse, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now, what the hell are they doing with 11- and 12-year-olds suggesting to them that they're going to need this because they're going to be engaging in… Sexual intercourse under the age of 16 is also illegal in this country. Mm-hmm. I said to her, you know, the trouble is, too, we derogate parents' rights as well. When we do this. And she does understand that, I think, because she said, yeah, you know, if you tell your child they can't go out and then they then decide to go. Yeah. It's exactly the same. And we also talked… Sorry, go on. No? You know, as an aside, we also spoke a little bit about, you know, when the slight turns happen in schools who chose to be open versus schools who chose not to be. And me saying, you know, the trouble is with authority, as usual, I've got four children, young children, three of them go to schools that were closed and one goes to a primary school that incidentally is in very close proximity but was open. And I told her the problem is that these people are not accountable, right? If something happens to your child, there's no accountability from authority. And that's what we need to be starting to claw back. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know what the vaccine is, just to be clear, but I just don't think, I don't think that nurses have any business interfering in the decisions that are made by a parent. Lawfully, they are breaking the law in actual fact. They're encouraging young people to break the law. Sexual intercourse is illegal under 16. Right? So, I mean, I know they're trying to lower the age of consent, but they haven't. It's not the law, for God's sake. Let's talk about Jeffrey Epstein. Right? Now, he got caught because they have, I think 16 is probably the lowest in the states, but they have the law saying 18 in some states. And I think some of those girls were over 16. Right? Well, he still got done for grooming and, you know, and actually, you know, because it was something to do with bringing them across state lines or something like that. Yeah. We don't have any state lines here. It's just illegal under 16 here. And the schools need to be told back off. That's up to the parents if they want to talk to their children about that and take them to the doctors and get vaccinated for that. That's up to them. Right? The schools have to understand they are not an organ of the state that can be colluding with another organ of the state to secure a particular outcome. Because that's exactly what they are doing. They're going to find out with a very sharp, short shock soon, aren't they? Yeah. I mean, I'll be honest with you. Fantastic, Karen. Yeah. Yeah. You know, definitely the law says no under 16 for medical consent, no under 16 for sex. And like Erika said, you can't unvaccinate your child once they've had it. Yeah. Yeah. Serena. Serena's got her hand up. She can unvaccinate. She can unvaccinate. Oh, shit. Oh, dear. Oh, before we get started. While I was looking in the Gazette, I found the designation, it's called the, you look under designation of terrorist entity. Okay. Or terrorist entities. Right. This one, 27th of August, 2020. 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