Lets Talk episode 14

Leo Trelongo, also known as Rocco Reed, is a wrestler who will be performing at City Wrestling's Mount Gambier Brawl on December 30th. Leo reached out to City Wrestling on Facebook and was invited to join the show. He will be competing alongside two other Mount Gambier locals. Leo's love for wrestling began when he watched a match between KO and Rey Mysterio on TV with his dad. He has always wanted to be a wrestler and pursued his dream after a fitness journey that led him to work at a gym. Leo also had the opportunity to train with Wrestle Rampage in LA, but had to put his wrestling career on hold when his father was diagnosed with stage four lung cancer. Despite the setback, Leo remains determined to pursue his passion for wrestling. All righty, welcome to episode 14 of the LT podcast after a while off, I'm back. So I am very excited for this. I got a message from Leo a while back and he's got a bit of spare time. So he obviously, yeah, sent me a message about coming on and having a chat about his story, which this will bring out the inner wrestling nerd from me, which is good. So yeah, I'd like to introduce my guest, Leo Trelongo, or as he is now known. Rocco Reed. Rocco Reed. How you been, mate? Yeah, been really busy. It's been a crazy year. Over in the mountains for a little bit? Yeah, I'm in the mountains until the 2nd of January. Yeah, so we do our show on the 30th and then back on the road to Perth. Beautiful. How's your week been? It's been really weird being back here actually. Lots of like nostalgic moments back home. But it's like a recharge in a way as well. So it's good to be back home where your roots are and like where you started. Yep, yep. All your family, most of your family's here. Most of my family's here, but everyone comes out for Christmas. Yeah, yeah, which is good. Yeah, my week's been sort of all over the shop. School holidays at the start of those, so that's good. Just giving you a bit of time off to reset, recharge and whatnot. Yeah, so you're back home. Obviously, you touched on the show on the 30th. We can probably actually dive straight into that. I thought we were going to do it the other way, but we'll actually dive straight into that so people know what's actually going on. You're obviously down here for Christmas, but also down here for another reason. So we're at City Wrestling. So on the 30th, we're having Mount Gambier Brawl at the Wollongong Centre. So I'll be on the show along with two other Mount Gambier locals who are also wrestlers for City Wrestling. So I'll be versing someone we don't know yet, and they'll be obviously versing someone else. Not from Mount Gambier, they'll probably be from LA. But Mount Gambier boys stick together and make sure we win. So how did you get to City Wrestling? How does that happen when you live in Perth? How did I contact them? Messenger, I believe. So it would have been around September or August time this year. I just sent them a message. I was like, hey, I was just wondering, because I knew they always did Mount Gambier events at the New Year's show every year. So when I was a kid, I was like, oh, I just want to be on that show. One day I'm going to be on that show. So I just sit on my couch at home, and this little spark will be in my brain. I'm like, hang on. Hey, it's almost Christmas time. It's a couple months away. I'll just message them. I'll write City Wrestling on Facebook. See if they reply. I'm like, hey, I was just wondering if you were going to do a Mount Gambier show, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they reply about a day later. And they're like, yeah, actually, yeah, we are. We are. Are you interested? I don't think they knew who I was, if I was from their town. So it's gotten into my story, and I told them where I was from. And then I believe one of the other Mount Gambier boys in the company messaged me. I think it was Nico, I'm sure. So he messaged me, and he's like, yeah, definitely. We'll get you on the show. I'm more than happy to. And I was just trying to work out how I was going to get here, because I've had so far. So, yeah, obviously you touch on the fact that there's two others for Royal City Wrestling, Nick and Travis. Travis, yeah. It is. So have you, obviously, had any prior contact to those guys? No, but I feel like I've known Travis forever. Just talking to him, we get along very easily. Yeah, top bloke, same as Nick. Seems like a really good bloke. Look forward to the event with them especially. It's going to be a good show. We've sold a lot of tickets already for that. Yeah, which is good. Yeah, so it's going to be a big show, which is really good for Mount Gambier. So hopefully we can make it back here next year. Yeah. And the biggest thing is I find, like, obviously for yourself and the other two boys, but you're from a very sport-heavy town, but it's your standard football, netball, cricket, basketball. How did you get into wrestling, of all things? So the year would have been 2007 or 2008. My dad, who has been watching wrestling even before I was born, for like 30-plus years, so he knew everything about wrestling. And just my earliest memory of that was just sitting in the lounge room with my dad. He switched to the channel, and then it was Monday night. No, I think it was Friday night, Smackdown, and it was KO vs Rey Mysterio for the World Heavyweight Championship. And I was like, I was hit from there. I was like, yeah, this is pretty cool. I was the biggest fan. Went to school a couple of days later, told all my friends. I was like, have you seen this, blah, blah, blah. And they were fans of it. I was like, what? I was like, this is crazy. And it just looked so insane, so entertaining. We watched football. I liked football, but it didn't really stick for me. I thought it was still cool. I kept it in my blood. But wrestling was just it. Instantly, I was like, I need to do this. I just had that feeling. Yeah. Which I think, like, growing up, me and my two brothers, we were obviously right into the WWE, WWF type stuff. And I think it probably crossed your mind at one stage. Yeah, I'd love to do that. But never really had that drive. But what point, like obviously, you say that was probably your first interaction, and that's when you fell in love with it. At what point were you actually like, this is what I'm doing? Whoa, whoa, that's a good question. So it would have been year nine. Yep. When was that? 2018. Yep. I was like, I was still watching it, keep watching it. At this time, wrestling was on a down. The viewership for WWE Raw and all that were down. Yeah, yep. But I was still watching it. I still loved the show, even through the down times. And I was like, I still want to do this. It's something I want to do, and it's a dream. All my friends started talking about uni, going to uni, doing this and that. I was like, no, I don't want to just go to uni and do what everyone else does. I need to do something that sparks my interest and keeps me happy. Because if we're not happy, then what's the point of being here? You need to do what you like. So I was like, I've got to figure out a way to become a wrestler. And eventually did. Obviously that probably kickstarted through your fitness journey. Yeah. We spoke about, before we started this, it's like a full circle thing for us. Because I coached in footy, and we worked together. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, I was up at your gym, but only went probably two times. Yeah. But always seeing each other around. Obviously I know your sister as well. I just still think it's crazy that you've gone from this kid that I knew, that I was coaching in footy, to this guy that's going to be wrestling for RCW. Yeah. The whole fitness journey, that was obviously the tipping point, I guess. That was when you were like, yep, this is what I need to do. Absolutely. So when did that sort of thing start? The fitness journey? Yeah, the fitness journey. So I got into fitness around, would have been, so I really got into fitness in like 2009. So I started football. Yep. You started coaching me and all that. After that, after football, I was trying soccer in footy back-to-back. So after I did all that, following year, I was like, I wasn't doing any sports anymore. I had a knee injury. Yep. So I was recovering from that, from football. I think it was one of our like, was it the semifinals or something like that for East? Yeah. And I got injured, injured my knee. So that sucked. So I was out with that for a good six, eight months. And then I was like, I need to strengthen up my knee. So I started going to the gym, which I found, and Mount Gamby Fitness at the time, which I started talking to the manager there. Her name was Carmen. Yeah. So really cool chick. And then she gave me work experience a few months later because I needed to do work experience at the school. And I was like, well, where else? I was thinking, where am I going to go? What do I like? So I was like, I like the gym. So I went and asked them. She was like, yeah, for sure, for sure. And then from there, did work experience. Eventually led to casual work, got a job there. Then part-time. And then a couple of years later, became the manager there, which was cool. So it was a full circle moment at the gym. And after managing it for about a year and a bit, I was like, I felt like I've done everything I could do. And I was like, I needed to get back onto my path, which I went off my path a little bit because of other reasons, which I'm sure we'll get into. Yeah, yeah. Go for it now. Go on. But that obviously flows in. Yeah. So I went off my path because in 2021, I contacted Wrestle Rampage in L.A. At the time, they were having tryouts. So I went up there, did their tryout. I was also doing Ninja Warrior tryouts at the same time. I was doing that back to back, which was cool. So did my Ninja Warrior tryout. Then later that night, we did a Wrestle Rampage tryout. So I was absolutely bugging the other day. So they really liked me. I got a call back a couple of days later from Wrestle Rampage. They're like, yeah, we love you. They started training with us, such and such. And then at this point, I was in Vancouver, back here. And then while I came back here, after my few days in L.A., after the tryouts and all that, we had to go to hospital for my dad. So we found out he had stage four lung cancer, which was terrible. So I was like, I can't leave now. And I've gotten this big opportunity in L.A. And he wanted me to go. But I knew I had to stay here for the next year or so. I knew I'd be upset with myself later in life. I'd regret it. I know myself too much. I know I'd regret that. So I was like, I'm young. I'll do this a bit later. I'll stay around for my dad. And then, yeah. And then a year and a bit later, I was managing American Gaming Fitness. So back to that. And then he passed away around April of 2022. So what helped me along that was, on my journey, was actually being a manager at American Gaming Fitness and helping other people. So helping them kind of helped me as well. Yeah, it was very therapeutic. And, yeah. So from there, I was like, reaching the end of the year of 2022, I was starting to plan, okay, what's my next steps? Then I started to message New Horizons Pro Wrestling in Perth. Yeah. Go and contact them. That's the company I currently wrestle for. And then we started talking to each other about training, such and such. Managed MGF for another couple of months. Then I left around April of this year, so 2023. April 18th, I believe. Yeah. That was the day I gave you. It was a sad day. Yeah. So I packed my bags, got my car, drove to LA, got on the plane to Perth. I was starting my new journey then. And then one month later, I got into wrestling training for the first time. And then it all began for me. Yeah. So within literally six months of training. Yeah. Your six, eight months. Yeah. You're going to be wrestling. So have you wrestled in front of a live crowd? I wrestled in front of live crowds at five or six months. Right. Already. Yeah. So how have you found that experience? Well, I'm always like, even when I was doing footy, always nervous before I go out. Yeah. But once you're out there in front of everyone, you're fine. You forget about it. Yeah. And then you start doing what you're there for and entertaining everyone and doing your job. Yeah. Which is the best part. Like that little kid in the front row looking at you. It looks like you're inspiring to him. Yeah. Or that little girl in the front row. The way they look at you, it makes it all worth it. All the risks and everything that you're like... What were you training for? Like training for and everything you've left behind. Yeah. It's all worth it. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously going through... Well, yeah, obviously the loss of your father, that's huge. And then just literally packing your bags and see you later. Yeah. Mentally was. Where were you at? It's a pretty big decision to make. Yeah. Because how old are you? I was 19 when I made that decision. I was 20 before I left. Yeah. Yeah. So still very young, obviously. Well, that's a massive... For one, massive thing to happen at a young age. Yeah. And two, yeah, massive decision to make at a young age. Mentally, where were you at? And how did you get through that? Yeah. Well, after he passed, you can imagine I was like... I was up here before he passed. Yeah. When he had gotten sick. Yeah. Yeah. So I was at an all-time low, for sure. But I picked myself up by going to the gym. Yeah. Staying fit. I never stayed still too long. Went on... I planned a holiday for the Great Ocean Road. Yeah. Because I was very therapeutic. Yeah. Did the whole Great Ocean Road. That whole trip was just for reflection. Yeah. For me and my dad. So I felt like he was there with me. Yeah. Travelling with me. And it's like the... It felt like the end of a chapter. So I was closing that chapter off my life. Yeah. And I wanted to not move on, but heal from him passing. Yeah. And yeah. So I felt like that was the only way I could. Because after he passed, I went straight back to work for about a month. Yeah. But then about a month into it, I was like, I can't do this. I need to go somewhere or do something by myself. Yeah. I felt like I was going crazy. Like, a sense of anxiety through the roof. Yeah. I just didn't want to be at work. I just dared to go somewhere and... Reset. Reset, recharge. Yeah. So that trip really helped me. So by the time you made that decision to move, you were actually pretty clear-minded, I would guess. Yeah. So at that point, yeah. I thought I held actually pretty fast. You still get your really bad days. Like yesterday, for example, I went to see his grave for the first time. Because the one before I left, it was nothing like that yet. It was just, you know, they've got their tent over it. Yeah. So that was there before I left. So I came back, and I've been back for a few days, but I didn't go straight away. Yeah. Because it's very hard to go there. So I went there yesterday and I had a look at it, which was, yeah, again, very therapeutic for me. Yeah. And like those moments are really hard because it makes it reality, and you don't want it to be reality, but unfortunately it is. Yeah. But you just got to remember the good times, and you'll be together one day again. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously, yeah, Royal City Wrestling has a pretty big star over in the States at the moment, Ray Ripley. Ray Ripley. Yeah. That's obviously pretty massive to be, you know, within the same company as someone that's produced someone like that. Obviously going over to the States, is that the end goal? That's the end goal. Yeah. So I want to try and do that in the next two years. Yeah. It sounds really fast, but, like, the way I work, I can't stay stagnant. Yeah. I need to keep refreshing myself, refresh myself. I feel like I'm not giving myself what I need. Yep. In a way, if you know what I mean. Yep. So, yeah. Yeah. So what's the school like over in Perth out like? I've heard of obviously Royal City Wrestling. Yeah. They come down here and, you know, you hear of the two boys who are down here up there and all that. So I guess it's like, for me, I've seen a fair bit. But, like, Melbourne City Wrestling. Is it Melbourne City? MCW. Yeah. So that's also pretty big. That's a big one. That pops up in the socials and you see, you know, they're bringing over former WWE wrestlers and stuff pretty often. Buddy Murphy. Yeah. Buddy Murphy is. Or Buddy Matthews. Yeah. So he's an AEW now. So he was in WWE. He's actually dating Ray Ripley. Yeah. They're the girl who's from RCW, the women's world champion in WWE right now, which she'll be down in, she'll be wrestling off the stadium in February. I'll be there. Watch that. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, so there's obviously big names from Melbourne, pretty big names from Adelaide. Perth was, I haven't obviously, I'm not going to say I'm a massive, obviously, local wrestling fan or whatever, but, like, what's that like compared to sort of MCW? So you've got EPW and then you've got NHPW over there. So I'm with NHPW and then you've got STW. Yeah. So pretty much the EPW is like the MCW of Perth. Yeah. Then you've got EPW, which is, I'm sorry, you've got NHPW, which we're, like, on the rise at the moment, which is good. We had Suzuki versus Loki. So Loki's from WWE, was from WWE. Yeah. So he's a big star. Then you had Suzuki from New Japan Pro Wrestling, where she really is a big star. He's on AEW all the time. Yeah. So they came and wrestled our company in their dream match, which was massive last year. Yeah, right. That's crazy. This year, sorry. Yeah. And that was fantastic to watch. The whole arena was, like, filled out. Yeah. So, like, you couldn't even get in the door. Yeah, right. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And obviously you got to interact with those guys. Yeah. I wasn't wrestling yet, so I was on the film crew. Yeah. So I got to actually film their match. So I was literally up and close filming it and just watching them, the way they wrestle, like, how they are in the ring, it's, like, you can tell how much experience they have. Yeah. It's, like, that's just years of, like, how to control the crowd and their emotions and how they react to it and all that. Like, they control all of it. Yeah. It's, like, crazy. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah, that's huge. A lot of those names, obviously, you know, most people probably aren't going to know them, but, yeah. Yeah. Like, especially being, you know, 20 years of age and having the likes of those guys right in front of you. Definitely. Huge. Yeah. Like, the toll on your body. It's like... Yeah, like, because obviously you talk wrestling and everyone says, oh, it's fake and this and that. I wish. Like, I get it. Yeah. But at the same time, you see these guys that, you know, they break bones and tear muscles like there's no tomorrow. Yeah. And, you know, that's from something that's deemed fake. Yeah. Like, the toll on your body at the moment, like... Especially with just the training, I guess. Like, how do you go about... Like, even doing squats. So, going back to my knee injury a couple of years ago from football, like, even... So, sometimes you do, like, three, four hundred squats before our training begins. So, they're called wrestling squats. Yeah. And that, like, on my knee, now, like, I've slowly got the strength back in that. Yeah. But it still hurts. Yeah. And, like, it'll hurt for the rest of my life, like, because I tore, like, a tendon or something. Yeah. Yeah. So, but, like, that builds up on your body over time and then you go in the ring, which is actually... So, you've got padding, right? Yeah. And then it's, like, thin layer of padding and then you've got the wood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you're getting slammed on the wood. Yeah. Yeah. So, it hurts. Yeah. And then you've got, like, chops, back clubs, all those types of things, suplexes at the top, right? Yeah. Normal suplexes. It all hurts. Yeah. So, yeah. So, we're not disacting it. No. Yeah. Which, like, how do you go... Obviously, you just do it off tolerance, the same as everything else. Yeah. Yeah. And how do you even go... Like, not even in a match, but you're literally at training getting slammed on the ground and getting hit and getting whatever. Yeah. Like, for me, I'll look at, say, footy. Yeah. And if I was to play, like, a scratch match on a Thursday, then try and play again on a Saturday, I'd be like, fuck that. 100%. You know what I mean? Like, I'd be like, I am that's all. Yeah. That, you know, if I was 18 or 15 or whatever, I probably could do it. Yeah. Like, at 29. Yeah. But even at 25, I would have been like, I'm not playing a game Thursday. Then playing a game Saturday. Like, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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