Pure Arete

Charlie Shaw, a special guest, discusses his new podcast called Pure Reap. He explains that "reap" is an ancient Greek term that means excellence and represents reaching one's highest potential in all aspects of life. Shaw emphasizes the importance of personal and professional excellence and encourages others to strive for greatness. He believes that people have the capacity to be better each day and need to be reminded of their potential. Shaw also discusses the importance of showing respect and providing excellent service in various professions, including law enforcement. He explains that the REAP system can be incorporated into daily life by creating a growth-oriented environment and encouraging others to strive for greatness. He also highlights the importance of sharing knowledge and mentoring the next generation. Shaw concludes by discussing the evolution of teaching methods, such as transitioning from books to podcasts, and the need to pass on valuable knowledge and experiences. Welcome to today's show, and right in the studio today I have Mr. Charlie Shaw, special guest. Thank you, man, for coming in. No, thank you, bro. After that workout that we did this morning, I didn't think I was going to make it, but we got through it. You saw me hobbling in here late. No, I'm proud of you, man. I saw you busting your butt this morning. You as well, but you as well. It's always a pleasure working out with you guys at 8 o'clock. I'm usually on 9. But we had to get some things done today, so we got in there early. Yeah, that's a lot. A lot of people weren't doing what we were doing this morning, that's for sure. I'm not at 8 o'clock. And that's another show, but Charlie's in here today, and he's got a new podcast coming out, and he can tell us about it right now. Appreciate you, man. Well, as you know, I had a previous podcast. Actually, it was season one. That podcast was called Low Metal Unfiltered. I started that back in January, right after I got myself situated after retiring in September of 24. Basically, it was about motivating and inspiring others to do great things. I was interviewing folks that are out in the community and they're employing that. However they can motivate other people, I wanted to talk to them and see if we can get them on the show and do more of that on a broader sense. Well, the show that I just renamed is basically the same concept, and that show's going to be called Pury Reap. You'll be able to find that show just like you found my last show. I'm really excited about it. You were asking me, what is a reed? Well, yeah, because I asked you about it a little bit before the show started. Pure reed, for the listeners, that's A-R-E-T-E. Right. Is it a system? Yeah, a reed is an ancient Greek term that signifies excellence. Any time that both of us was in leadership roles when we were working in our respective law enforcement agencies, me being in U.S. Marshals and Orange County, such as yourself, we want to motivate our people, we want to show good leadership. So I was reading something that I'm doing now while I'm retired, and I came across that word, a reed, and it explains best of what I'm trying to seek for myself and also bring out in others. It represents the ideal of reaching one's highest potential and striving for perfection in all endeavors of life and profession. Enhancing that re-state of mind means committing to personal and professional excellence. Continuously seeking to improve oneself or help improve others through living a life that reflects the highest standards and integrity, skills, and dedication to yourself and others. So it really encompasses all aspects of leadership in businesses, and no matter what they are, it seems like the concept's going to be the same as far as being good leaders. Right. Well, actually, just a good person overall. Bingo. Just a good person overall. You know, I think we've lost, I'm not going to say all of us, but I think that a lot of people have lost that, where they're just accepting what it is right now. When they have the capacity to be better each day, like we strive to improve ourselves each and every day. So I just want to bring it back and remind folks, hey, man, you got greatness in you, man. People do need to be reminded of that. So how do you think that's important in today's society? Well, when you look at the grand scheme of things, when you're talking about it being in society, one can say, okay, so let's say in society, let's say something as easy as just going out to eat. Right. The person that's waiting on you, for example, listen, they know that you're paying top dollar for that hamburger. You're sitting down. $18 hamburger. Right. They know that you're paying top dollar for it. They didn't have to come to your restaurant, so why not show them that you appreciate them? Make sure that everything that they're ordering, I'm not saying kiss their butt or anything, but just show them the respect of, hey, thank you for coming into my shop. Or when we're talking along the lines of our profession, law enforcement, everybody knows what our jobs are. Well, the majority of people know what our jobs are. Right. With that respect, we provide a service to the community. We should be excellent across the board, even when we're putting handcuffs on a person. Right. We should show that person respect, because there's no reason for error when you're looking at that in the grand scheme of things. If you're professional across the board, what can you argue? Yeah, and it should be nothing personal ever. Nothing personal. Yeah, and it's like when, I think we, actually I was talking about a video earlier where it looked like something, an incident got personal. It's like, you know. Right. But, yeah, so as far as the REIT system, how do you incorporate that into your daily life? Well, good thing. When you're incorporating a REIT into your daily life, I would, you know, practice steps, you know, creating growth orientation into your environment, encouraging others to, you know, strive towards greatness. Like, for example, we work out, we do the CrossFit. We're pushing each other each and every day. Each and every day. Or even through exercises. You know, hey, Charlie, let's get up the wall. Hey, Kev, we got to carry this thing another 400 meters or not. Yep. Six months ago, that wasn't happening like that. But, yeah, it's that concept and the encouragement and the teaching. Right. You know, it's cultivating just as a person waters a garden. Right. That's a good analogy. Yeah. You know, the reason why you're watering a garden, you're planting a seed in the garden, right? Okay. So, you're expecting to, you know, harvest something, you know, within a few weeks or months. Well, that needs sunshine. It needs water. It needs nourishments. And you have to apply these things. And sometimes we forget those ingredients, you know. Or sometimes a person doesn't know the appropriate ingredients. The owner has to take time out. You may have to take time out as a leader or as a friend. That's not just on a leadership side of it. That's business. But on a, you know, personal level, sometimes you may have to remind a person. A lot of times we don't want to remind our friends that, hey, man, you can do great things. You can do whatever you want to do. You're just going to have to put the work in and apply it. Well, I don't know how. Well, you know what? Maybe I know how. Maybe I can share it with you. Or maybe we can find out together. And do you think you have to tweak things based on generational differences? Oh, of course. I'm glad you brought that up. I'm not going to use that Twilight thing, but we finished our career, correct? Correct. Right. And what we're doing right now is we're podcasting. We don't have to do this. No. But the reason why we're doing this is because maybe we've still got some things that we want to inform people of. Well, the reason why I created Peering Read and I'm also doing speaking engagements and I also do training is because I still have that knowledge that someone shared with me many moons ago. Right. And I find it necessary that I return that. Each one's each one. So with the next generation of folks that's coming up, my specialty is law enforcement. If I can help groom or provide some of my knowledge and keep learning, then maybe the people coming up behind me may ask me some questions. Or how would they go about when you're a supervisor, what did you do in this situation? Or how would you handle this person? Or how would you handle this scenario? So I feel it necessary for my own personal growth and also for the growth of others is to try to develop a podcast, train materials. Maybe even books at once. Maybe even little manuals or books on trying to help the ones that's coming up behind me. Okay. Now, I'm going to tell you, I went on an old man rant just a few days ago talking about what you're hitting on and as far as sharing your knowledge. Right. Back in the day, I don't know, maybe like eight, nine year deputy or officer, there was a, you know, you run into older guys and everybody wanted to like write a book. I think a couple of them did. I think I've read a couple of them. One of them was called like 10-8. I remember it's like that was just the thing. And then we progressed like doing that process. I never thought that, hey, we will be retired. Like you didn't even think about retirement. Maybe I didn't think about it. It was too far out. But now, look, the book turns into a podcast, which is a lot easier than writing a book. Right. And what I find that as far as teaching things, like you have so much to teach. You as well. You're talking about in general? Yeah, just in general. Like sometimes you see things that, oh, man, why did they do that? Like because you, nine times out of 10, you've been through it or at least you've seen it. Oh, yeah. And I don't think that knowledge should be wasted because there was a day where, on a date, the book of what to do used to be this big. Right. And then it got like super big. And then it turned into a disk that nobody ever looked at. Right, right. So the people just got dumber. I'm just going to say it. Sorry. People got dumber because it was easier to ask than to go to the computer. It's not the kind of job where you go, hey, let me go look. Nobody's going to type that up. Right. They're not going to do it. It's like you either know it or you don't. Right, right, right. But when they start doing that and they start making the information less accessible, it seems like it's more accessible, but it's not. So you have people going, when you see some of the mistakes and just stupid things that people do and some malicious things people do, it sounds crazy, but it's like, I think the newer generation especially, and they need to be told, like, don't, don't double dip in your off-duty kind of thing. They have to be told what not to do specifically because they don't understand the whole totality of it. Well, Kev, you know as well as I do, my policy is written because of some things that people have done or made those mistakes. So we're not going to beat up those who fail because the way I look at, the way I've been looking at things in the last few years and I've kind of read a few things, failure's fine. Yes, if you learn from it especially. Right. And when you learn from something, you actually fail forward. You don't fail backwards, you fail forward. And once you've fallen, if you're failing forward, you have the capacity to learn from your mistakes. Absolutely. And that's what peer review is all about. You know, hey, you can learn, you can learn so much if you, you know, open your eyes and listen. You had two ears, listen with both of them. You had two eyes, listen with both of them. Speak, you had one mouth. Be careful what comes out of your mouth. Be careful how you use the words that come out of your mouth. Absolutely. And if you're going to use those words, make sure that those words are words that's going to better yourself and better others. Yeah, and you had touched on your podcast, like I said, just treating people with respect, which you just covered. Right. Just the general employees need to feel like their input is valued. I mean, you know, it's like, I mean, I'll say tell me more about the challenges of incorporating your program into daily lives of individuals. And like I was kind of giving my little example, like instilling that in their state of mind, this is how do you make people like aware of just of their surroundings and doing the right thing and how it looks two hours from now. And, you know, it's kind of like, I know we're covering a broad topic there, but there's very little, I don't hear about too many true management. That's kind of what I like what you're doing, because the true management podcast of just down and down to earth, just what it is. Right, right, right. So how do you instill that to what I would like to call, like some people are like this, I'm going to call them dumbasses, but they're unaware. They're unaware and they make life hard on themselves. I'd rather use the words unaware than dumbasses, because everybody has potential to make themselves aware of growth. But yes, sometimes they do represent dumbasses. Yeah, we've all been dumbasses here and there. I've kicked myself many times. That was a dumbass. And, you know, you can recover, but you learn. It's okay to be a dumbass if you learn. Well, first off, I'd like to say that with me, after retiring, I went on transformation. And that was for my personal success. I did well in my employment. I was happy with it. But I was also seeking to improve my health, improve my mindset on things outside of my previous employment, because we get cloudy. We get really cloudy when all we're doing is focusing on work. And I found myself just focusing on that. And I wasn't taking care of myself. You know, I posted some pictures of my transformation and weight loss, and I'm still working on that. I'm still a work in progress. And I'm happy with that, because I'm seeing the fruits of labor. So with that being said, you know, you've got to set personal goals and align it with your own values when you're pursuing self-improvement. You've got to live ethically. Yes. You have to live ethically. There's one thing that you should never lose is those ethics that you have, that's been instilled in you. And dedicate yourself to what you're trying to achieve in your journey or transformation. And strive for excellence in all the areas that lead to fulfillment and balance. Balance is very important. Balance in your life is very important. And that's something that I noticed that I wasn't doing last year. I wasn't balancing. Yes, I agree. I wasn't doing it either, because you just get so caught up. You get caught up. You know, and I shared all this with you and didn't really know you, but we connected once we found out that we had a background. And I was like, hey, man, you don't hear out from, you know, what did you do? And I was, you know, I saw that you pretty much did the same thing that I was seeking. You realized that there was some things that you needed to improve and you got in the gym and you set yourself a podcast and, you know, I didn't know. I didn't know. No, I didn't know. You can reset the clock. Yeah, you can reset it. And, you know, to your abilities and you're not, you may not be able to run a 40. We're not going to. Yeah, exactly. But just the concept of being able to run again. Right. And everything that the coaches instill in you is a major leadership role. It kind of encompasses a lot of what your podcast is about. Because, you know, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks and he'd pull it off. Yeah, but you know what? I'm going to get some water, man. I'm drinking it. Yeah. Hey, I told a couple of people when I've been out of state a handful of times and ever since that little transformation page that you were talking about, I'm sure everybody, look at this guy. I remember when he got there around Christmas. And you're talking about four or five months. He's like a different person. One girl told me that the second picture looked like, you know, the first picture you looked like the older guy's father. I was like, oh, I guess that's a huge compliment. But you could tell, like, the second picture, the transformation. I'm sorry to belly laugh. No, but it's true. Like the second picture you're like you're super happy, you're smiling. The first picture was just like. Like the old man. But, yeah, it's like you thought you were happy, but it was clear that when you look at like your facial expression, your body and what you were doing. Yeah. Like the second guy, it's a different guy. It's not the same guy. Well, whoever told you that, I appreciate it. Actually, it was the person you saw me talking to yesterday. Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, the new one? Yeah. The brand new one? Yeah, just because. Really? Yeah, just I don't know about the people transforming in gym. That was like most recent. But other than that, I've been. Well, you know, it's funny. But I'm not saying the same things. Right, right. It's funny you said that because I think Devin put me on there in the show. 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