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The speaker discusses his changing opinion of the Boy Scouts of America and the recent name change from Boy Scouts of America to Scouting America. He reflects on the positive values and skills taught by the organization in the past and expresses concern about the emphasis on inclusion and the loss of traditional principles. The speaker believes that good things and organizations that promote moral values are often under attack and encourages listeners to continue fighting for what they believe in. When the night has come, and the land is dark, and the moon is the only light we'll see, no, I won't be afraid, oh, I won't be afraid, just as long as you stand, stand by me. So darlin', darlin', stand by me, oh, stand by me, oh, stand, stand by me, stand by me. If the sky that we look upon should tumble and fall, or the mountains should crumble to the sea, I won't cry, I won't cry, no, I won't shed a tear, just as long as you stand, stand by me. And darlin', darlin', stand by me, oh, stand by me. Welcome to One More Round Podcast, where even late is better than never. Let's get in the ring. I'm your host, Keith Marshall, and let's go one more round. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. We tear down this wall. We will make America great again. If I say something and you don't want to listen, don't listen. I love you all. One more round. One more round. Hey, welcome to One More Round Podcast. I'm your host, as always, Keith Marshall. Welcome to the ring. I'm a little late today. I've been working on a piece that I think you're going to enjoy. Just something new, kind of timely with the news, and it took me a little longer to gather all my information here. And to be honest with you, I've been doing a little fishing this week, so I've been a little less interested in politics and a little more interested in catfish. And I'll tell you about my trip a little later maybe if I get time. But I'm going to get in the ring today and talk to you about a subject that's been in the news, and that is the Boy Scouts of America. Now, I will say this. Growing up and most of my life, I had a very, well, I'll just say that I had a lot of respect for the Boy Scouts of America. I was never a scout myself. I remember as a kid wanting to join the Boy Scouts, and my dad wouldn't let me. And I can't remember why. I don't know if we ever talked about it. You know, when you're a kid, at least in my generation when I grew up, when my dad said no, especially if he said it in a certain way, I didn't ask any questions about it. I just knew the answer was no, and I moved on. I didn't ask about it the second time. But my guess is, just looking back, my guess is that my dad wanted to do all that with me himself, and he didn't want to farm it out to someone else. You know, he worked late hours a lot of times, so we had to pick and choose when we could hunt and when we could fish and when we could camp. But we did all of those things. And I really, some of my best memories were on the lake fishing with my dad or hunting or, you know, we would camp and fish for the week a lot of times. We had camper and different things. And so I have a lot of fond memories about that. I was never in the Boy Scouts. I had a lot of friends that were. And, you know, honestly, growing up, my impression of the Boy Scouts was all positive. And I think that was correct. I think growing up in the 70s and early 80s, the Boy Scouts of America was quite an exceptional organization. But I don't agree with that assessment anymore. I have changed my opinion on that, and I have watched it happen, watched my opinion change, watched the organization change over the years. And kind of what culminated this episode for me was an article or several articles that came out on May 7th. They just came out just a few days ago talking about the new name change for the Boy Scouts of America. They actually changed it from Boy Scouts of America to Scouting America, completely removing the word boys in their title. Now, I checked out an article here from AP, and the opening paragraph kind of sums up the reason for the change. And it says, the Boy Scouts of America announced after 114 years that it will change its name and will become Scouting America in an effort to emphasize inclusion as it works to move past the turmoil of bankruptcy and a flood of sexual abuse claims. Now, we're going to get into some of that and some of the changes in the Boy Scouts over the modern history over the last few years. But I think that paragraph, and there's a specific word in there that says everything to me. It's about everything that's happening across all spectrums within our country. Even, and sometimes even especially, in our churches. And that's the word inclusion. After 114 years, it will change its name and will become Scouting America in an effort to emphasize inclusion as it works to move past the turmoil of bankruptcy and sexual abuse allegations. The word inclusion, I think, has been the downfall of many organizations. It sounds really good to include someone. We want to be included. We want to be a part of something. Well, the problem with the word inclusion and its application across everything is that in order to include someone, we're not simply allowing them to participate. We're changing ourselves to allow them to participate. We're not saying, hey, if you want to be part of our organization, of our club, of our church, whatever it is, we're not going to change you along the moral lines that we think are appropriate. We're going to allow you to change us just so you will come. And we'll get into that just a little deeper. But truthfully, as I look at the Boy Scouts of America, and to me, I'll always remember the old Boy Scouts of America. Like I said, if you grew up and you went to the Boy Scout, 70s, 80s, 90s, I think you did a good thing. I think the lessons that they taught you, the skills, they were always, you know, about being mannerly and learning outdoor skills and treating others well and being a strong young man to serve your country, your neighborhood, your state, your city, whatever it was. I think they taught good, strong values in the past. And I'll always remember that about the Boy Scouts of America. Honestly, I don't think that that organization exists anymore. I think it's gone for all intents and purposes. And I think some of the facts and figures that I will give you will reflect that. But there's a deeper point here to me, because I think what's went on with this particular organization, and not picking on them in particular, because this has went on with a lot of organizations, a lot of churches, a lot of other things. But what has went on with this particular organization and the changes that it's made and what's happened within it are a reflection of everything that's going on in this country. I mean, it's kind of almost, you could almost say, as the Boy Scouts go, America goes. And at one time, you would not have found a more patriotic, America-loving organization. And maybe they still are in some way, I don't know. But just looking at their past history, looking at how they were founded, I think they were very pro-America. So I'm going to do a comparison with them and America. And I think we've seen America go right with them, or them go right with us. Either way you want to look at it. Now in 1910 at its founding, the Boy Scouts of America had a goal of teaching and a stated purpose of teaching patriotism, courage, self-reliance, and kindred values. In fact, they were based on three broad principles of duty to God, duty to others, and duty to self. It goes on to say that the Scout Law is a code of conduct. It describes the values that every Scout should follow to become an upstanding member in their community. Now we've all heard, even though we might have been Boy Scouts, you know, the principles of Boy Scouts was something that people talked about. You've heard people say, Scouts honor? Well that was based on some principles and some things that were taught to the Boy Scouts. And those kids in the Boy Scouts had a lot of respect for that, and rightfully so. One of the Scout Laws that I'm reading here, and I kind of remember they bring up some of the quotes that I remember people saying, is that a Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent. Patriotism, courage, self-reliance, kindred values, all those things that I've been reading are good things. They're positive things. And I think they're values that our young boys should be taught. You know, I did an episode recently, and go back and check it out if you get a chance, about what's going on in our schools, about the destruction of the American public schools across this country. And we talked about the Ten Commandments and the values and how the principles of those commandments should kind of guide our lives. It should guide the way kids act in school. Not necessarily in a religious way, although I think it should, but just for principles of right and wrong. And these values that we were teaching our young men in the Boy Scouts mirror those. They were good principles, which probably is the reason why they come under such heavy attack. You know, I do believe, I really believe that there's an evil in this world. I do believe in Satan the Devil. I do believe in that, strongly. Maybe, and I believe most of you probably do. We may not agree on everything, but at some point, we agree on that principle. And I think when things are successful, when things teach good principles to our kids, they're going to come under attack. And I believe that the Boy Scouts of America, or what was the Boy Scouts of America, is no different. And I think as we go through here, I think I want you to, I want you to look at it from the pretext of this. Good things in our life are always going to be battled. When we're doing something good, when we're working hard, especially in the areas of moral principles and values, you're going to come under attack. What you believe is going to come under attack, what you're doing is going to come under attack. And if there's a way to stop that good thing and replace it with the bad, you better believe that the old devil is going to have a way to do that. He's going to work to do that. And in order to win those battles, sometimes it just requires keeping on going. There's an old song that if you find yourself, you know, in the middle of hell, keep on going. Don't stop. And I think the Boy Scouts of America have stopped. I think they definitely slowed down enough to allow more areas to hit. Let's go through some of the recent history of the Boy Scouts of America. Now, at its peak in 1973, the Boy Scouts of America had just under 5 million members, an incredibly strong organization. And it remained strong. And their principles remained basically unchanged for many years until we get into the 2000s and they started to see some pushback, some litigation, some attacks from the outside, those eras that I was talking about. And at the very first, at the start, this organization, this once, in my opinion, great organization stood firm and they stood strong. You may remember some of this from the news. And by the way, I'm quoting from a WNG.org article that I picked up, it's from 2023, before this recent name change that provided a lot of the information that I'm looking up here. But in a case in 2000 called the Boy Scouts of America versus Dale, the scouts were sued for not allowing gay men to be scout leaders in the PACs, in the Cub Scouts or whatever unit groups that they had. And they were sued and it went all the way to the Supreme Court. Well, the scouts spent millions of dollars to fight that case and they actually won. It was their goal to preserve the organization, to keep the rules and their, you know, their code exactly the way they had it. They won that fight. They actually won in front of the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court ruled that they had the right of association. They could choose who led or who was in their own clubs. And they won that case. But, you know, the article that I was quoting, that I was talking about from WGN, they actually commentate on that just a little bit. They said, the scouts spent millions of dollars to win this important case. It is one of the great ironies of this story that the scouts would fight so hard to protect their rights, only to see a new generation of scout leadership voluntarily walk away from them by allowing gay leaders just a few years later over the strong objections of the many rank-and-file scouts and their adult leaders. The article went on to say that they did so in large part because of the byzantine bureaucracy of the scouting organization. Those at the top of the organization earned pricely salaries, one million or more. And the board of the national organization was made up of dozens of corporate CEOs who often brought with them the political correct values of the organizations that they led. In short, both the board and the national leadership lost touch with what had made scouting great. Now, I'm not real astute on the history of the Boy Scouts. And I've done some reading here to bring myself up to speed on some things so I can share them with you. But one thing that the article goes on to talk about, and I just read, was that new people came in and they made some drastic changes in the organization. And just looking into that, it is fairly obvious that they did make some changes from the way it was originally founded and the rules of the organization. In 2015, for example, they ended a blanket ban on gay adult leaders within the Boy Scouts of America. In 2017, they made the historic announcements that girls would be accepted as Cub Scouts as of 2018 and into the flagship Boy Scout program, renamed in 2019 as the Scouts BSA, assuming they are moving the boys from the beginning of the title and starting it with Scouts and only using the BSA, Boy Scouts of America, as an acronym there at the end. So, like the article in WGN pointed out, there were some drastic changes. Now, have they been positive? Well, the numbers don't bear out the positivity of those changes. In this same article, WGN article, they talk about the Boy Scouts holding their first jamboree since 2017. They used to have a jamboree every year. It was a national jamboree. And they took a look at the numbers. Well, this jamboree that they just had had about 15,000 attendees, which is, you know, it seems like a lot of people, but if you'll look back, that was the fewest number ever since all the way back into the 1930s that they had fewer than 20,000 attendees at this jamboree. The 2017, the last one that they had, had 31,000, so twice as many, a little more than two times as many attendees. In fact, in 1973 for their jamboree, they had 70,000 Scouts show up. That's really, really amazing. But the article goes on to say, and I'll just quote it, the precipitous decline in attendance mirrors other declines for Scouting. Between 2019 and 2021, the Boy Scouts lost half of its membership, which stands today at about 1 million. In the 1970s, Scouting membership topped 4 million. In fact, I mentioned in a Fox News article, they said it was actually closer to 5 million. And the article goes on, the organization declared bankruptcy in 2020, and it has sold or mortgaged virtually every asset it can pay, and basically to pay off a $2.5 billion settlement over sex abuse claims. There was a rash of sex abuse claims that just crippled the Boy Scouts of America during all this time. They started even earlier, I think there were some limited cases earlier in history, but back, oh, in the middle of the 2000s, in that era there, there were some pretty landmark cases that drained them dry. And you know, I mentioned that I went, I'm not changing the subject of fishing, even though I have it on my mind, but I mentioned that I went fishing yesterday, and I put my boat in there at the state park, and I was pulling on, heading up the river, and as I round that corner, used to be you could look left, and you could see the Boy Scouts of America camp there on the water. I can remember when it belonged to AP before that, I believe, and then the Boy Scouts bought it, and it was quite just an amazing campground with water and all kinds of things. Well, they had sold that, and I wondered why they sold it. I thought it was odd, but you know, reading this article, and realizing the amount of money that they had been sued for over this time period, they basically liquidated it, I'm sure, along with many of their other assets to pay those bills. So, you know, I think that buttresses my point that when you step away from your values, even with good intentions, you often open the door for those arrows and slings and darts that come from old devil to step in there. Bad people slip in. Good people that would have thwarted the bad people that are in any organization. You know, I don't care what you do, what organization you're in, whether it's, you know, whether you're a mailman, or whether you're a bank clerk, or whatever you do for a living, there's going to be people you work with, people within the organization, people that slip in and out that are not good people. It's hard to hide or keep that from happening. But the best medicine for a bad person is a good person. Watching the store. Watching, looking out for what's going on. Looking after the kids, in this particular case. And there were some bad ones that slipped in there. I'm sure there was also some, hey, I want a part of that too, kind of thing, with people suing that maybe were not abused, that were just wanting to jump on board. I'm sure most of them that said they were, I'm not refuting what happened to them, or delegitimizing it, or making light of it. I'm not. But there's always those that jump on and get a little me too there also. But the organization, with those changes, and from its peak, when they were strong, when these court cases come along originally and they fought and they won, since then, according to this article, and it seems to have borne true, since then, they've kind of caved on some things. They changed the way they did things. You know, I kind of like the way they put it in this article when they talked about the sexual abuse allegations. They said, In short, both the board and the national leadership lost touch with what had made scouting great. Then when rumors of the sex abuse scandal started circulating, leaders became more concerned with institutional preservation than in caring for the victims. By the time the courts and a class action lawsuit forced the scouts to act, both the credibility and the finances of the organization were in shambles. I think that makes sense. They didn't have the strength of character to deal with the problems that came along. They took the wrong approach, and it only got worse. The article went on to talk about the jamboree a little bit. They used the term dead cat bounce for the organization. In other words, it just wasn't any good. It didn't go over well. But it said, What little excitement that was generated came from mostly progressive circles. And they quote an article in the Washington Post by self-identified gay reporter Mike DeSocia. He described a large tent celebrating diversity, describing the jamboree. It said it had LGBTQ pride flags and a string of multicolored lights, tables covered with bowls of rainbow bracelets, pronoun stickers, and diversity patches. He noted, approvingly, that the coveted Eagle Scout rank now requires a diversity merit badge. Though, and they go on to say, just as an added part, though, in fact, this requirement, while under review, is not yet official. They did, however, show a Boy Scout with a pin wrapped around his tie, or whatever you call it there, with a rainbow wrapping. I don't think one person has to look far. You know, going back to the episode I did on the public schools, I don't think one has to look far that there's an element in all of these things when it comes to our kids. And that's over-sexualization. The constant bombardment with sex and genders and all these things with kids that should be learning to tie knots, to camp, you know, to treat others fairly, to learn some self-preservation techniques, and in the Boy Scout's case, to learn to be strong young men. Instead of that, we've turned this into sex camp. This article goes on to say that the Philmont Scout Ranch, the Scouting Movement's premier high-adventure camp, employs about 1,000 mostly college students as seasonal staff members. This summer, they included openly gay staff members, pronouns on the staff name tags, and an inclusivity forum promoted to staff with a poster that included the so-called progress pride flag, featuring both rainbows and transgender black, brown, blue, pink, and white colors. So the article continues to analyze that point and say, so the answer to our first question, how did this happen, we're talking about how this happened to the Scouts, is this, the Scouts have strayed from the values that made it great. That allows us to turn to our other question, will the Boy Scouts survive? The author of this article doesn't seem to think so. He says here, a youth organization with one million members is still significant, but the speed of its decline, the fact that the decline continues to virtually go unabated, and the amount of its debt all put survival in doubt. It is not clear that even a million members can generate enough income both to pay for a quality program and to make its mortgage obligations. One way the Scouts are trying to bolster revenue is by dramatically increasing dues. In 2009, it cost $10 to be a Boy Scout. Today, membership dues top $100. And that's before uniform, camp, and other costs that can run into the hundreds of dollars per year. But these fees increase, but these fees increases further shrink the number of kids who can afford to participate in the program. The net effect, ironically, is that as the Scouts become more progressive, they're becoming less diverse and less inclusive. Which, you know, in a nutshell, the more it costs, the fewer people that can afford to come. Your people on the lower end of the economic spectrum cannot afford to be Scouts. So like I said, you're being less inclusive. You know, as I read this and I see this and I see the changes, and how each time they say, we're going to go just a little further. We've went to here, that's as far as we're going, well, that didn't work, now let's go to here, let's go a step further. You know, I feel like I'm seeing this pattern repeat itself in all kinds of different organizations that I'm watching, many that I used to have a lot of respect for. I've seen it happen in churches. Churches that were pretty strict, that taught the teachings of Christ, the solid teachings of the Bible. They start to wane a little bit. And the next thing you know, anything goes. Well, let me tell you this, if you're in a church where anything goes, the first thing that needs to go is you. Because that church doesn't stand for biblical principles. Anything does not go. Now, you have a right as an American to make your own choices and to live the kind of life you want to live. That's absolute, as long as you don't harm others. I support that right. I don't agree with everything that people do. I don't want that for myself or my family. I don't want it shoved in my face. I don't want to be forced to bow to it. I'm not going to use your pronouns, in other words. I'll say yes ma'am and no ma'am all day long because that's the right thing to do, I believe. If you want to do different, that's up to you. But in our churches and a lot of our organizations, like in this case the Boy Scouts, we've just said anything goes. But I'll tell you this, I'll tell you where it ends. And there's a saying that I like to say, I hear other people say, and that's this. Go woke, go broke. And I think the Boy Scouts of America is a case of that happening. I think, I told you I was going to compare it to the United States. We are seeing ourselves bend over backwards to try to placate a bunch of purple-haired brats on campuses that have no business being tolerated. They're literally celebrating and promoting death to America. And they're supporting a group of people that believe in Sharia law, that do not believe in any of these extra things that they're able to do in America. They would kill them in a minute if they were homosexual in some of these countries. They wouldn't tolerate that for a second. They're not inclusive, they're not tolerant, they're just using our kids. And I have to wonder, at what point from that child's upbringing, coming through school, parents, whatever it is, did someone not tell the kids the difference between right and wrong, and that there are absolutes of right and wrong? We're missing that, and we had an organization in the Boy Scouts of America that taught right and wrong. They had a strong moral compass. They were biblically based. Now, let me say this. I don't know if it's still this way, but when I was a kid, most of the time, the Boy Scout meetings were in churches. And I don't think that... I mean, the reason they were in churches is pretty obvious. Their leaders were members of those churches and were able to get the church to have those meetings. Now, there were two things there that were symbiotic. Number one, the leaders were men, and they went to church. Now, I don't know that, you know, all churches are different, but we'll start from the basis of the fact they went to church. On Sunday, they were under the preaching, hopefully, of God's Word. And number two, the Boy Scout organization had no issues at all meeting in churches. And the churches had no issues at all allowing the Boy Scouts to come in and meet. They had shared values. They taught good things to our boys. We need strong men. We need men that have strong moral courage in this country. Men that could raise other good boys and other good men and other good women who, along with their wives, their equal partners in that marriage, can work together to raise a generation of kids that honor the principles of God's Word, that definitely love their country and support their country, and help their neighbors and those around them. That's the kind of society we want to grow. That's the kind of society that the Boy Scouts of America wanted to see our young men be a part of. And maybe they still do in some ways. I can't throw the baby out completely with the bathwater. I'm quite positive there are still good people trying to do good things within the Boy Scouts of America. I'm sorry. They're not called that anymore, are they? They'll be called Scouting America. But to those that are left within it, I don't know what happens. I don't know. I don't think it's coming back. I don't think you can change it again now. I don't think you can unsee what's been seen. You know, I've mentioned it a couple times in the episode I did about the schools. And I was going to do a follow-up episode, and I kind of got stuck on the Ten Commandments, and I never went back, and I'm not sure if I will. But the last point that I was going to bring out about what's going on with the schools, the last one was called the Run for the Hills. And I'll just tell you what I meant by that. And I've kind of referenced it a little bit in what we've talked about with good people. The Run for the Hills. When things get bad, when an organization goes woke like this, the pride flags, you know, the pushing of sexualization, parents are going to pull their kids out. They're going to run for the hills. And there'll be less and less and less good people left in that organization. And it opens more and more doors to people that are not so good. People that have ulterior motives with what they do or simply are not devoted to the overall mission of the organization, which has good principles. I'm sure it still has good principles. I'm just not sure that they can deliver them anymore. But when those good people leave, when they run for the hills, that organization, that snowball effect down the hill, it gets faster. That's what I worry about with our schools. As parents pull their kids out of schools and they homeschool and they go to private schools, it only means that those that are left behind in the schools that maybe don't have the ability or the means to do something different, their schools continue to deteriorate and it only happens at a faster pace. And I think that's what you're seeing with the Boy Scouts of America. That snowball started and as pieces broke off of it, the snowball only got bigger and it only got faster. The good left. Or a lot of the good. Now I know there are people that have dedicated their lives to the Boy Scouts. Good people. There's people that are still doing that. I'd love to see the organization get back to its roots. I'd love to see it recapture what it had before. And for those of you that are working and trying to do a good job, God bless you. Keep doing it. I'm not telling you to leave the Boy Scouts. You may be able to stay and make it better. I hope you can. And I'm sure some of these things that are happening, good and bad, are regional. May not be happening here. But you have to believe at some point that pervasive effect is going to seep its way in even in your club. Even in your troop. I don't know. I'd love to hear what you think about it. I'd love to talk about it. But you know, I want to end this. Not quite yet. We're not quite to the verse. But I wanted to, there's a quote in this article. And I found it kind of ironic and a good way to end it. Actually, I misspoke. It's in the article on Fox News. It's actually a quote from a lady named Angelique Manet. M-I-N-E-T-T. I assume that's a French sound. That's the way it's pronounced. But Angelique, Miss Manet, is the first woman chairperson of Scouts BSA. So, you know, just, I don't think the irony has escaped on you there. And here's what she said. She says, when we think of Scouts, we think of knots and camping. But these are means to an end. Manet told the Associated Press. We are actually teaching kids a much bigger thing. We are teaching them how to have grit. And we're teaching them life skills. And we're teaching them how to be good leaders. You know, that quote sounds great at face value. But as I think about it, especially that last part, we're actually teaching kids a much bigger thing. We are teaching them to have grit. And we're teaching them life skills. And we're teaching them how to be good leaders. Well, I've got to run and wonder, Miss Manet, what exactly the bigger thing is that you're teaching kids? You're teaching them to have grit? Wouldn't it show grit to stick to your principles? The Boy Scouts haven't done that. You're teaching them life skills? Really? You're teaching them to be good leaders? Well, what's the example that you've given? That good leadership is to cave to the values of those that oppose you? To not look after those that are in your care and to just write checks to get away from it? To change the fundamental principles of what has worked since 1910? And watch yourself spiraling downhill while you make excuses and you talk about the fact that, hey, this is much bigger. We're not just teaching camping and not tying. No. We're teaching diversity. We're teaching inclusion. We're teaching all kinds of principles that really had no business in the Boy Scouts. You know, I went back and read that the original Boy Scout Promise, it was introduced in 1908 by Robert Baden Powell in his book Scouting for Boys, is a spoken statement made by a child joining the Scout movement. And here's what it said. On my honor, I promise that I will do my duty to God and the King. I will do my best to help others whatever it costs. I know the Scout Law and I will obey it. I think in 2024 those Scout Laws are gone. At least as described here as it was founded. Now, there's one law that has not changed and it's not going to change. And that's God's Word. And I want to end this episode as always by reading that. And it's found as always in Ecclesiastes 12 verses 13 and 14. And God's Word says this. Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter. Fear God and keep His commandments. For this is the whole duty of men. For God shall bring every work into judgment with every secret tone whether it be good or whether it be evil. Hey, I want to thank you for joining me today. I know it's a tough subject. I want you to know that I have always had a tremendous amount of respect for Boy Scouts of America. For those that served in it or Scouts in it or leaders in it helped to organize it. I think they were special people and they did a wonderful job. I'm just worried that the organization needs to change so it is now that they just cannot do what they used to do or provide the kind of great service to our young men that they provided in the past. I hope it can change. And if you've participated in those organizations you've been a part of it God bless you. You did a good thing. And I hope you stay and I hope you continue to try and move it in the right direction. And you hold fast and you hold strong to the very end to make sure that it continues to be that in your local Scout Club or your local troop. But as always I want to thank you for joining me here in the ring. It's been my pleasure to speak to you today. I always enjoy my opportunities to bring a few details to you about what's going on in the world. And until we talk again I hope you have a wonderful weekend. I hope God richly blesses you. Thanks for joining me. Goodbye. God bless you.