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The conversation is about college football and specifically about the University of Oklahoma's football team. The speakers discuss the team's defense, their chances in the playoffs, and their upcoming games. They also compare Oklahoma to other teams and discuss the performance of their quarterback. Don't leave it up to the refs, you know what I'm saying? I respect that, but realistically, that's a flag. Bro, this ain't like boxing. We're leaving it down to the decision. Bro, that's a blatant flag. He was all known to those stoops, man. I think, why are you playing a tight game with Oklahoma State? It's a robbery game, and it's the last team. We lost with Florida. We beat Florida to sleep. I mean, but Florida been trash for the last, what, five years? And they're more relevant on the championship stage than OU. Hold on. Florida? By winning championships. By winning championships more recently. Multiple championships more recently than OU. In this era? I feel like Florida ain't even close to us right now. No. No. Not at all. It's like when Georgia played, when y'all played Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech? Y'all be banging with Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech be right there with y'all. Georgia Tech did that last year one time. It's a robbery game. I'm just saying. It's a robbery game, so they're going to play tough. They want to play. Yeah, Georgia Tech, it was close. It was real close. All right, let's look at the last five Georgia Tech scores. One's been close, and that was last year. And we won. We didn't lose it and blame the refs. But why did y'all play close with Georgia Tech, though, in general? Because we ran five plays all night because we needed another game plan to get ready for Bama. We didn't put anything on the field. Who else was it? Wasn't it Auburn that played y'all real close, too? Auburn always – Auburn plays everybody tough at Auburn, by the way. By the way. You know what I'm saying? Alabama. That's a big drop. Dallas, who's your color team, Dallas? What's that? Who's your color team? Boomer Sooners. Sooner born, sooner bred. Michael. Yeah, get him, boss. Get him, boss, man. Yeah, tighten B-Rich up. Tighten up B-Rich right now, young man. We got to hand it to Ben. Close the door. Close the door. Nah, he's speaking that good gospel. Yeah, let me know. All these Sooners fans behind enemy lines, man. I just feel like since you brought up underdogs, I think OU loses two underdogs every year. It's who y'all are. That's their real legacy currently. Not your distant legacy. You used to be champions. That was a long time ago. Legacy. I don't understand what legacy is. Legacy continues. Legacy is always. We are still doing it. We're still producing NFL talent. We're still producing Heisman winners. We're still producing national recognition. I think you're producing Heisman trophy winners. I think you can put up a great offense in a bad defensive conference every year. I think that's what you were doing. Okay. You're not doing it anymore. Well, this kind of segues into, like, the first topic I really want to discuss. We'll start off with OU. We'll keep it college football general. But let's say we all know what OU was last year in the last two years. Historically, the third year of Brett Venables is where you see his biggest jump in the culture of the defense. And we got that. We got our first dog on the defensive line, Wilkins, coming in from TCU, who was legitimate. All America has a freshman at TCU. He played in that national championship game. So we get a real SEC. Who they playing in that national championship game? It don't matter. We got Danny Stutzman, the best linebacker OU's had in a while, who was a legitimate football player. He's a foot. Kenneth Murray, as a talent, you can't compare him. That's not what Stutzman is. Stutzman's a heart. That's what a linebacker is. He is that Oklahoma Brian Bosworth type player. He's a culture changer. And you got Billy Bowman in the secondary. All three levels have legitimate dogs. It's the first time. So the defense has it. First rounder, Billy Bowman. Yes. Yeah, I agree. He might be the best safety in college football. Oh, my gosh. Please stop. It could happen. I mean, it's legit. The say is not. Malachi Starks will be the first safety drafted. He goes to the University of Georgia. Billy Bowman is the top-ranked safety coming this season. He's not. Malachi Starks, he was runner-up for the Sophomore. First team of all. We'll revisit that later. Malachi Starks is in the world by himself. So with all that, with the defense, I'm going to give a scenario. So right now our offensive line, people are concerned about that. But Jackson Arnold, what if he does have a Heisman season? Let's say that scenario happens where he does live up to the hype. What happens to OU if he does have a Heisman caliber season with that defense I just talked about? I think they go to the playoff, which I'm not projecting for y'all this year, no disrespect, but I think y'all go to the playoff, and I think you may win a game there because you'll be a higher seed, assuming that y'all are winning games. And then you'll win round one against a Notre Dame or whoever. And then you'll have to play a big dog round two, and we know what happens when you have to play a big dog most of the time. He be changing the culture, baby. How many years does he get to change the culture? This is his third year. Third year. Kirby Smart's second year, he went to the National Championship. I'm just referring to the best. But the first year Kirby was there, how many games did y'all lose? That's a fact. We were bad. We lost five games. That was bad. So you can recognize this pattern that happens in college football. Imagine losing seven. It was really six, but if you want to add the bowl game, whatever. Okay. But in reality, the next year you win ten. Okay. And Kirby's defense, yeah, he went to the National Championship and lost. That's true. He didn't owe you. You know, but the thing about it is BV, he ten wins. Then the third year, we're in the SEC now. Defense is his. It ain't none of Lincoln's recruits. Yeah, we know he can't recruit that. He can't recruit that. Them cats is leaving USC today as we speak. So this is BV's guys. That's why I got more faith in this year than even than I do last year. Because he still had to pass some guys from last year. That's fair. That's very fair. But you still have y'all losing, what, three games, right? I still got three games. Hold on, hold on, hold on. B-Rich, oh, Lord. How many games you got over you winning, my brother? Realistically. Yeah. I mean, shoot. Temple, that's a W. Should be. Wait, wait. How about us going into Texas undefeated? Houston, W. Tulane, W. Tulane had your A. Tulane would have beat y'all a couple years after Hurricane. That was expensive, Ron. Hey, one thing I want to say about that Tulane game, them boys was kick ass. Them boys was on y'all. And the defense wasn't about nothing. That defense, once a season, once a season emerges. See that defense wasn't about nothing. Nope. But that's who we all been for the majority of the last 20 years is not a good defensive team. What were we last year? What were we last year? I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what we were. Led the league in turnovers. But that's a bad league defensively. No, not the league. We led the nation. Led the nation. But look at the offenses y'all played. Look at when y'all got turnovers. You know what I'm saying? I don't. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so if your safety takes a hundred yard kick back, I mean a hundred yard interception back because it was Kentucky or Vanderbilt. Yep. I think if we're doing that versus Kentucky or Vanderbilt and then we're not doing that against Bama and LSU, I think it speaks to the level that we're actually at. I think stats can trick people sometimes. They can. Stats can be manipulated. And we played, I felt like. Okay. Y'all got busy against Texas. That's your Super Bowl. Y'all went balls out against Texas. And you said we would do what against Texas. Huh? And you said we would do what against Texas. I thought y'all would lose against Texas. I thought y'all would win against Oklahoma State. You fooled them twice. They didn't want me. Okay. Tennessee, W. Stop. What? Good. Forward. Tennessee. We're still going lower. Auburn. Okay. 4-0. In Auburn. 5-0. You're going to win both of those? Bro. Yes. I got us going against 5-0 Texas at 230. W. Going crazy. South Carolina. W. You need to slow down. Ole Miss. That's the one. Ole Miss is going to fold y'all 10. That's part of what it is. But see, I don't. But you know what? But you know what? W. Maine. W. Good job. Now, this is the one. Missouri is going to beat y'all this week. Missouri. That's what's crazy though, bro. I really. We could lose that. But I see us losing to Texas before we lose to Missouri. Missouri has definitely got the best receiver in the country. Ain't nobody worried about them, bro. Missouri has been asking y'all's conference. They left the big 12. You know what? You know what? W. Missouri. W. Thank you. Alabama. Yeah. I don't know. Alabama? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I got to see. I got to see what Alabama is going to be. Don't they play y'all before they play us? Yeah. I know Texas is that way. We got Texas. They might be beat up, you know, before they even come to Norman. No big brother. Georgia. Yeah. They definitely can say that. Y'all can't. But they can. Ooh. We can say that. We can say that about Alabama. We can say that about Alabama. Ooh. Ooh. We can say that. We can say that about Texas. We big brother. We nominate Texas. Y'all can only beat Texas for sure. But besides that 49, that old BS. That shouldn't happen. If you're elite, that doesn't happen. 49 nothing doesn't happen to anybody. That was Davis Bevel. That was the worst quarterback showing of all time. You better walk on sets from Bennett. No. It's not comparable. It's not comparable. Midwest City Junior High could have produced a better quarterback than that, dude. We had a walk-on quarterback. When y'all had a walk-on, Baker Mayfield is all the hype, right? He's the legend. Yeah. Don't compare. Don't compare. How are you a legend? Seth and Bennett is not Baker Mayfield. But he had a better college career than us. No, he didn't. By winning multiple championships. Oh, yeah. You're taking Seth and Bennett over Baker Mayfield? I'm taking winning over losing. No. Are you taking – no. Mike, answer the question. Mike, answer the question. Answer the question. But Baker don't have that intangible. You answered the question for us. You answered the question. You answered it for us. But Seth had a better college career. Y'all's overall speed was good. That's what made y'all so good. That's why y'all – the defense was – who was scoring on y'all when y'all had Seth? Seth is an alcoholic. That's fine. Baker Mayfield has a Republican-sized shoe, by the way. Hold on, man. He's a neighbor of a cop. He's got tackle. He's good. He can't break tackles nowhere. Thank you, bro. Alabama, we may take an L to them. We may take an L to LSU. So you see no more than two losses. You got two, B? Okay. I ain't going to lie. I got three at least. I got nine and three because the Texans will be – Hey, Craig. Tell them how many underdog games we got this year. Oh, six. Six. I think there's a reason for that. I don't think you're going to beat at Missouri and at Ole Miss. I don't think you win both of those. I do. I think you win one at best. I think you lose Bama or LSU at least. I think you lose the Texans. Okay. I think LSU will be beat up the last game of the season of where we can get that one. But Ole Miss, that's going to be early. Isn't that at LSU? At night? It is. Good luck, man. It ain't Kansas. And you know y'all had a hard time in Kansas. But this is at Death Valley, man. It's a harder – y'all are playing in arenas you haven't had to play in before. We'll be ready. Hey, man, I'm telling you, man. Man, we – you was right, man. He's a hater, man. He don't want to hear it. I don't think it's hate. I think it's realistic to say that y'all normally lose to a team you're a favorite against every year. And it's normally at home. I saw y'all lose at 31-point favorites against Iowa State at home. I see y'all lose to Kansas State every other year, right? If I'm lying, I'm flying. This is what OU really is. So you have the Husman Trophy guys, but you also have the home losses inexplicably against bad teams. That's who y'all are currently. I know there was a time that we went to Ohio State and handled them boys with everybody, including probably you back in 2017. True. Had Ohio State winning, 100%. Yeah, you were. But y'all lost at home. I was there for the OU game. Y'all lost at home. Okay. Me too. Blasphemy. Blasphemy. In the history books, who are they talking about? The page of Stetson Bennett or the page of Baker Mayfield? Who's getting their own page? Okay, so A.J. McCarron's better too then. A.J. McCarron, is he better than Baker Mayfield? Baker Mayfield has two championships to Baker zero, right? And the freshman Jake Fromm beat Baker Mayfield and outplayed him in the second half. Bro. Right? Baker Mayfield had the worst defense in the country. Who's fault is that? That's not Stetson Bennett. That's not Baker Mayfield's fault either. We made it with a terrible, terrible defense that still has y'all on the ropes. We had you. That means you almost won. What is an almost win? That's the most OU shit I've ever heard. That told me a lot about y'all's team that year. That's why y'all couldn't beat them. Well, we had. Well, you talking about refs? That all-star Jake Fromm. No, no, no. We lost. We lost. That's why. Stuart hit Devontae on the seat. Yeah, that's true. That's true. We ain't going to get into the all-stars. We ain't got to do that. Georgia lost. Right? We did an OU. What'd you do in the OU? What'd you do in the OU? Don't let the referees dictate your win. That's true. That's a fact. That's true. So we lost there. Why did Baker never win a championship? Bro, she didn't. She never had a defense. She never had a defensive one. Is that an excuse? It's Lincoln Raleigh's fault. That's a fact. He had a first-down Kenneth Murray, right? Bro, that's a linebacker. Bro, one linebacker, bro, with no corners? We had Roquan. You know what I'm saying? We had one first-round linebacker. We just almost. Giant corner, giant defense. Y'all, how many defensive linemen from that year, 2017, to last year's in the NFL? Oh, yeah. I'm saying Georgia's built better than OU. Georgia's more physical and better than OU. Seriously. On that OU-Baker Mayfield team, we were close to the success. I don't know. Man, y'all just didn't know. Y'all had all pros every round offense. Baker had C.D. Lamb, Hollywood Ram. Offensively. Offensively. That's who he played with. And we were the best offense in the country for years on end when he was there, too. So, there's nothing. That tells us what Baker Mayfield do. You give him the people, he will perform. So, Baker needs all of this stuff to win. Seth and Bennett didn't have this. We didn't have all the talent that's going on over there. It's because we're physical and y'all are not. Who the hell was hyped up when Seth and Bennett got recruited to Georgia? How did he even get there? Nobody. That's why he's such a good story. That's why he had a better career. He went from a no-star recruit to a two-time champion. He left and came back. Right. And in all that time, Baker never won a championship. All that time, he had time to leave and come back and win two, and then Tom Baker couldn't do it. Seth and Bennett left two years ago, and we've already forgot about him. No one's talking about Seth and Bennett anymore. Well, we're talking about him now. No. No, we're not. You're talking about him. No, we're not. Baker Mayfield has been gone. He's still a legend in college football. He's a legend for not winning. Who else is a legend? Tell me some more college football legends. He's a straight drum. That's true. That might be true. Tell me some more college football legends at quarterback. OU. No, period. Stan Braff. Oh, hold on. How many legends can you name that don't have a championship? Tyler, Sam. All the OU quarterbacks. Right? I was a Landy Jones fan. Jason White was so good. Tyler and Sam Bradford had the best offense ever. And Baker, no championship. And that's the difference. I would say OU is a more relevant football team than Georgia is. Lane wouldn't say that. Dallas wouldn't say that. Not right now. As a program, as a college football staple, Blue Blood, yes, OU is. Yes, we are. How far back do you have to go to be proud? Historically. The legacy that you talk about. How far in history? Hey, Yale has a bunch of championships, too. Are they ahead of Georgia? I'd say ten years, if anything, bro. If you go back ten years to 2014, 2014 is when y'all got destroyed by Clemson the second time, right? Right? The second time, I believe. Okay, but where was Georgia at in 2014? Who did we lose? Three losses. Y'all was always a two, three loss. Yeah, that's where y'all are now. Y'all don't have a quarterback that's ever better than anybody. And that's Stafford. Number one pick Super Bowl champion. Go. Terrain though. Rams, baby. I'm a Stafford guy. I don't do that. Come on, baby. And that's a number one pick Super Bowl champion. But Stafford, I felt like he wasn't messing with college. College? Yeah, college. I think college, OU has had great quarterbacks, transfers in college. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Georgia's running back. Stop it. What are you talking about? Adrian Peterson is the best, the most talented running back in college ever. Okay, all right. The only running back I will say, and that's just because he's close to my heart. Todd Gurley? Todd. Crazy. He was crazy. No Sean Marino was crazy. He wasn't. He wasn't Joe Mixon. He wasn't. All right. What is this Joe Mixon? Joe Mixon just on a new team, brother. Joe over Joe Mixon all day. What? If you look at production, just production. Joe been doing the same, bro. He's never heard. Hey, Dallas, do me a favor, my brother. Dallas, do me a favor. Pull up the stats from Joe Mixon and Nick Chubb and read them out loud for me, my brother. That's crazy. That's crazy. I feel like Joe. I mean, now Joe, bro, you got to think. He was in an offense where they stole the ball. But he also had, what, seven touchdowns against Texas Tech, right? So I think he has plenty of opportunity to run against a light box because he's playing at OU. All OU running backs kill it, except for last year, right? All OU running backs always kill it. You got to think. All them cats are still in the NFL, too. Even Anderson is still with the baby. Anderson don't do it. Anderson don't get no burns. You all got to remind me of Stevenson, Joe Mixon. Eric Blaine was a transfer. You see Stevenson. You all don't do it. I got a good game we can play. Let's just do this. Let's do our best of best. Adrian Peterson, Nick Chubb, who are you taking? Okay, Adrian Peterson, Teron. Teron, Adrian Peterson, Nick Chubb. Are you saying college or are you saying NFL? Let's do college. College isn't even debatable. Let's do it as a whole. Let's do it as a whole. Let's do it as a whole. Who did you say, Nick Chubb? Yeah, Peterson, without question. Peterson, no question. It's no question, bro. Yeah, 100%. Okay. Okay, let's do Todd Gurley, DeMarco Murray. Oh, Todd. Todd. Todd Ingo. DeMarco, man. Oh, God, man. Todd was nasty, bro. Todd was crazy. I'm sorry, B-Rich. I think it's closer than what. Y'all sleep on DeMarco Murray. Yeah, I think. DeMarco sleep on DeMarco Murray. Hey, DeMarco Murray was nasty. He was all right. He was solid. He was like Sonny Michelle. No, no. Sonny Michelle, no. Look at the numbers. Compare the numbers, man. Sonny Michelle, no, bro. And he got a ring with us and he was solid, but no. Y'all sleeping on Sonny Michelle. Y'all sleeping on Sonny Michelle. We talking about rushing records with DeMarco Murray. He's going to bring up God damn Sonny Michelle. Y'all got Somaja Pierron with a rushing record against Kansas. That's who y'all get to play against. I'm talking about in the NFL, DeMarco Murray is a rushing record. Okay, how about Herschel Walker? Herschel Walker's solid, right? Herschel Walker's solid. So, you want to bring up Herschel, we're going to bring up Billy. I mean, Billy's good. What's he doing? What's he saying, though? You want to go back like that? You want to go back, dude? Listen, do not bring up Sonny Michelle with God damn DeMarco. Don't act like DeMarco Murray is in some space that he's not. He had a couple really good years. Okay, that's what you want to do. Okay. DeMarco was hard, but if you put him with Todd, I'll take Todd. But if you do it with Sonny Michelle. How about Terrell Davis? Terrell Davis is all right, right? That's a Hall of Famer, right? How many Hall of Famer are you running back? AD is going to be one. Yep, him and him. Yeah, AD coming up. Okay, end of list. Go ahead. Joe Mixon ain't no Hall of Famer. Compare Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon in the polls. That's not close. The other runner back? Hell. Where? Yeah. Joe Mixon's on a new team, man. Joe Mixon. What's that mean? You can compare Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon right now. It's not close. Their production is not close in the NFL. Chubb can do the same thing as Chubb. He do the same thing Chubb do, bro. Joe Mixon? He ain't in the hot tub. He just has a better quarterback and a better offense than he does less. He does less with more. Chubb's in the hot tub, bro. He's staying in the hot tub too much. Hey, Dallas, if you want to read those stats, I'll be glad to. Pull them all up right now. If you go to wide receivers, who you got on the wide receiver list, man? JJ Green, Howard Ward. We killing them, bro. AJ Green, Howard Ward. Who y'all got? Who y'all got on the AJ Green level? We're killing y'all. DD Lamb. DD Lamb's been doing it for a few years, for a couple years. AJ Green got a career doing it, man. And where is he at? He just retired. No, and he was sorry when he got to the Cardinals. When he got to the Cardinals, he wasn't no good. All right. When Jay Wright got to the Seahawks, he wasn't no good. It was the end of a 20-something year career. All right. I'm going to read a little stat to you. So Todd Gurley and DeMarco Murray are very similar, actually. In the pros. We're talking about pros right now. Okay? Okay. So in the pros, DeMarco Murray. Okay. Both players, six years in the pros. Okay? Okay. One player, 7,174 yards, 49 touchdowns. The other, 6,082 with 67 rushing touchdowns. Now add the receiver there. Now add the receiver there from Todd Gurley. Hell, no. Todd gave us crazy touchdowns and receivers. You know what I'm saying? Now add in the receiver production. Do you think that he had that much more than DeMarco Murray? How much more do you think he had? Oh, yeah. DeMarco Murray go get the ball, bro. DeMarco Murray kick the ball, bro. Yeah, he do. He do. But Todd Gurley was okay. Okay. You can look it up if you want to, man. We got some McVeigh running back here. Who do you think led in yards? DeMarco. DeMarco, okay. One DeMarco. What do you think? In what? In rushing yards. In rushing? Yep. Oh, I think DeMarco got more carries. Bro, that's not what he asked. Yeah, yeah. I think he got more yards. Okay. Or rushing. Touchdowns. Who do you think had more? Probably Gurley. Probably Gurley. Todd had more touchdowns. Are you adding in receiving, too? Total touchdowns. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Gurley. Todd had more. But he didn't have more rushing yards than DeMarco. I'm going DeMarco on touchdowns. Okay. I seen the stats the other day. That boy had a total of like 70-something touchdowns. He's still third on the list, and he ain't played in two years. He had 79 touchdowns. 79 touchdowns? Yeah. That's a lot. 19 of those were from the one-yard line. They're a touchdown. I get it. Okay. DeMarco Murray had 65. Oh, that's nasty. And he had over 1,000 more rushing yards in the same timeout time. These are runs. And DeMarco, hey, Todd Gurley came in at 215. These are runs. Todd Gurley played for, what, six years, right? DeMarco Murray played for six years. Yeah. Todd Gurley, you're on the one-yard line. We can't respect that. We can't respect finishing. I'm not surprised. I don't know what you think. Hey. Oh. Hey. That's nasty, DeMarco. I see you. DeMarco, I'm looking at it right now. DeMarco Murray played more seasons. He played from 2011 to 2017. He played seven seasons. And shout-out to DeMarco. He got an extension, too, yesterday. Oh, did he? Yeah. Okay. He kept saying he got an extension. Are y'all really comparing Georgia and OU? I don't think that's a good comparison. Well, we were just talking about OU's win-and-loss record. So, Vegas now has seven-and-a-half wins. We all have them for more than seven-and-a-half wins. That's a smash. Just think about that. Are you elite if your line is at seven-and-a-half wins? Man, we ain't worried about free throws. I mean, but, bro, they giving y'all them ten wins because y'all schedule is crash this year. But we got to go two Alabama and two Texas, right? That's it. We got to go to two Tennessee and two LSU. You got to play a lot of the teams y'all play. Two Ole Miss. Y'all play Ole Miss? We played them last year and beat the hell out of them like we supposed to. We don't see what's all different. He's talking about this year. I think Georgia, we got to play Clemson, right? We got to play at Bama. We got Auburn at home. We got at Texas, Florida. We got to go to Ole Miss again. Home against Tennessee. You know what I'm saying? We got a lot of the same guys y'all got. I think we can all can agree, though, if you're a smart better, taking that bet right now at OU at seven-and-a-half is a smash. I think anybody would be dumb not to take that bet before it gets moved. Easily. But if y'all are locking Georgia at OU most wins, let me know. I think that's a smash, too. No, no. I'm not doing that. Come on, baby. Be rich if you're A. Nah. Come on, baby. Y'all's schedule is in y'all's favor. I'm locking that Packers versus Raiders. Straight up. We can talk about it because we just beat y'all last year, by the way. Oh, okay. We got a new season. Learn it. Yeah, man. We for sure got to get in and feel it. Hey, man, I didn't know you was a Raiders fan, bro. Always, man. Come on, baby. Yep, yep. Hey, you would be a telly right there. Yeah, I ain't got to tell everybody, man. I can talk football with anybody, about anybody. Oh, we got a cowboy feeding. Oh, Lord have mercy. Hey, you an OU fan, but didn't go to Dallas, bro. I can't do it, bro. It's a lot of that, bro. I can't do it. That's how much I don't like Texas. I don't even like to eat. Not Dallas, man. Oh, God. Oh, hold on. Hey, McCray, what you think about Love? What you think about Jordan Love? Boy, Love surprised me because the way he was when we played him, week five or six, was not the same way he ended the season. He stepped his game up. Shout out to Jordan Love. I got a lot more confidence in him now. I think the receiving core is solid. Y'all got continuity. You lost Aaron Jones, which you had Josh Jacobs, so I think you're going to be good. Oh, Lord, Dallas put my office to shit. Dallas is not trying to win. Tell me you don't like winning. Don't tell me. That's crazy, bro. Manfield got mad jerseys, too. That's crazy. Hey, shout out to Manfield, though, sitting in the boys' playoff. I know Terry's hyped up about it. Oh, yeah, big time. But, hey, Baker Manfield got a lot of jerseys, by the way. I won't wear the browns out in public, but. Do you think y'all compete in the ASC West this year? I think we finish second in the West. I think we own Denver. We beat Denver every time we play them twice a year. The Chargers, I think, are going to be better, but I think we have continuity coming back, and we feel we're the best defense in football after Antonio Pierce took over. So, at the end of the season, last six weeks of the year, we had number one defense in football. I think that continues. The offense can't be worse than it was last year. So, I think by default we win. I think it can be. Who's winning the North, NFC North, Detroit or the Packers? I think Minnesota's out. I don't think JJ is going to be. Yeah, I think they're out. I think Chicago's going to be really good, but I would go long. So, I think Chicago will be better than Minnesota. But it's out of Detroit. We're going to stand on business. The Packers are good. The Packers are really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We low-key are one of the best teams in the North for sure. Yeah. I think the Lions got that, though. I can't bet against them. And then the Lions get all the dome guns. Every game is in the dome. It's in the dome. And that's when golf is good. Some way, some point, it's inside, bro. That's wild. It's crazy. It's 14 of the first 15 or something like that. What is that? Crazy, bro. So, yeah. They said they want us to be good. I would love to be in the MVP talk this year. Love? Whoa. I ain't going to lie. I can see that. MVP though? Andy's going to be one of the high-stakes quarterbacks this year. You think he's going to be in the MVP over like a C.J. Stroud? Mm-hmm. Stroud got to be in the conversation. I mean, it's a list of about five, six cats. Yeah? Let's hear that list. Let's hear that list. Oh, yeah. Who's the list? Who's your MVP list? Christian McCaffrey up there? Yeah. Hey, I look like him. Tom Holmes up there? Yeah. If you can throw for 4,000 yards and finish second in touchdowns past Johnstone to me in touchdowns. Johnstone, right? Johnstone to me in interceptions, bro. Hey, but I'm just going to say no. But he wins. And you got crazy numbers. If you got 4,000 passing yards and 30-plus touchdowns, hey, man, it's hard for you. I can see somebody being in the MVP talk with them kind of numbers. I can see that. I can see that. Your love at 4,000, 32 touchdowns, I figure that may be only going to be at double-digit interceptions. He turned it on the second half of the year. Because the first half, we were talking, he was trash. And then whatever he figured out, he figured that out. And he turned it completely around. Oh, yeah. Or you got to think, that was his first time starting, like really getting out there starting, starting. That's true. So, it was tough. I mean, he had to go through his grow pains, but, hey, everybody's got to develop quarterback growth. That's true. And I think with us having Josh Jacobs, if he can stay healthy, and the old running back we picked up out of USC. Oh, yeah, Marshawn Lloyd. Yeah. And that old boy, A.J. Dillican, somehow started acting up. Man, listen. A.J. Dillican. He picked for no reason, Paul. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, like I said, old McKinnon from the Giants, that was nasty. Yeah. We got the best quarterback in the league. Arguably. Arguably. My guy. Yeah, I'm a soft guy. And, you know, hopefully, hopefully, Quaid tests up from his last year. You know, A.J. picked up old boy. Javon Bullard. Dang. Sleeper. Where are all you defenders at? Tell me about all you guys. You know, you know, you got Gallimore up there in Dallas, you know. And, you know, Kenneth Murray, where did he just sign with? Baltimore. Did he go to Baltimore? I thought he went somewhere else. He went somewhere else, man. Let me see where Kenneth went. I got it. But if you didn't get your fifth year picked up, it's for a reason. Yeah, yeah. Tennessee, that's right. Yeah, Tennessee. Okay. But, you know, like you said, he didn't get picked up on the fifth year because, you know. I'm glad he left the Chargers, though, bro. That's not a big part of it. You know, it's going to be – I think it will be between us and Lions, and then Lions is really – We're going to bust the Lions on week one Sunday night for you, B. I got it. Oh, okay. All right. That's going to be good. B. Rich, you say you got Green Bay winning the South or the North. Trey, who you got winning the North, NFC North? I really do like the Packers. I ain't going to lie. If they finish, they start how they just booked Dallas and had San Francisco on my sport. I swear, I ain't never seen nothing like that before. That was scripted if I've ever seen it. I ripped my jersey. I was crying. Brennan lost his mother-loving mind. If they start like that, and I felt like they got better than they was last year. Okay, here's the question, though. Here's the question, Dallas. What y'all going to do with C.D.? They're going to pay him. They got to pay him. I don't think anybody in the organization at Dallas, there's no way you can let a generational talent go. How much of my money is Dak going to get? Generational is a little stretched. Dak, they want to keep him there for continuity. I think if they can – he's already been paid once. We paid him once. And he hasn't done – he hasn't really lived up to that. He's made us relevant. He doesn't want to play on the field. He's going to get overpaid. He's going to get overpaid, but that's what the quarterback landscape is now. You have to. Have you seen the NFL's actually talking about creating a quarterback salary cap individual for the rest of the team? So the quarterbacks won't be added to the whole salary cap, which I think is good for football. In Stafford, D.C., they're going to have a quarterback salary cap individual for the rest of the team. So the quarterbacks won't be added to the whole salary cap, which I think is good for football. And Stafford just won a little raise. They need to give it to him. No dollars, by the way. But Stafford won a Super Bowl, so he has some skin in the game. Come on, baby. Winning matters, baby. Mike. Mike. He won a Super Bowl. Hey, if Dak hadn't lost the way he does in the playoffs, we would have a whole different conversation about that. But because he loses on the biggest stage, Mr. Mayfield, we talk about him differently. You know what I'm saying? Winning matters. Especially a quarterback, right? Whatever, motherfucker. Mike. Mike, who do you got winning the North? I got the Lions, man. I got the Lions, too. So it went two and two on the North. Let's go to the East. We're talking about the Cowboys. Let's go to the East. Eagles. Eagles. I got Eagles. Shot the Jalen Hurts. Yeah. He almost won some stuff, too. Yeah. He actually won at Bama. Yeah, he's won stuff before. I respect that quarterback. Who do you got being rich in the East? I'm going to go with the Eagles. All right. We'll go three to one now. I'm going to take Dallas. Dallas, come on, man. Look at it. What happened? Other than the Saquon Barkley pickup, what's the big difference from last year? I know that's a big pickup. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got you. Now, you know what? I'm going to rock with you on this one. Yeah, I'm going with Dallas. I'm going with Dallas. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to ask you. Let's break it down like you were Georgia. At quarterback, you taking Hurts or Dak? Who's better? I'm taking Dak. Over Hurts? Fantasy, I'm taking Hurts. Hurts had his moments, man, where he throwing some ducks. Look at last year. I mean, last year, Philly was in the first ten weeks, they were all like – they were in shootouts. I'm taking Dallas as a team. Team, yeah. Yeah. You're taking Dallas as a team over Philly? Yeah. Yeah, because Philly goes up. Man, they started falling apart. They did. In the beginning of the year, they were – Dallas fell apart at home against Green Bay, right? In the play. But then, I mean, we was weak. Man, nobody seen it come to Philly. They was on fire. I think Philly has – I think quarterback is comparable. I think easily running back for Philly. Easily opens the line for Philly. I think defensively, I'm taking Philly over them. No, not defensively. Their line is good. Carson's playing out of position a lot. You got Carson, you got Lawrence out there on the end. They went and picked up some linebackers too. They got some nice VCs out there too for Dallas too, man. I mean, Darren Slate ain't no slouch. Charles Jordan Johnson ain't no slouch. You got old boy coming back. Diggs and Bland. Bland. But they just beat all the time. They just beat all the time. Jalen Kane, he can't come out playing the first – he can't come out playing next year. I mean, this year like he did on the second half of the season last year. Nope. If he doesn't come out playing, then they're definitely not going to win. Daron Bland, Trevon Diggs. That's not winning football. Right. It does. San Francisco. San Francisco. I hate it. I hate it, but San Francisco. Hey, man. He's healthy. I don't think I'll pick up Cooper Cupp on fantasy ever again. He's healthy, B. We all hurt, man. He kept – he was out there halfway running around. But it's okay now because all the focus is on Cooper. Hey, Cooper's the number one for that team now. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I think Cooper Cupp's going to be back, man. Cooper Cupp's going to be back, I think. McCray, I'm telling you, my boy. Hey, the great white Hulk is back. Cooper Cupp is a monster. I hope he does, but y'all are still not better than him. Hey, don't sleep on Seattle. All I'm going to say is Seattle's got some stuff, man. Seattle, man. Don't sleep on Seattle. Nah. Seattle's got some stuff. Don't sleep on Colin Murray. Yeah, don't sleep on Colin Murray and Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison either. I think fantasy-wise they'll be good. They'll be relevant. Cardinal's better than Seattle. That's crazy. I would love to take that bet if you want to lock that man up. You got the Commanders, you got Howell, and then you got Geno. Who are you going to start? You're going to start Geno, easy. Okay, but then when Geno gets messed up, then what? Now you've got a problem. I think you run the ball with Kenneth Walker. You've got D.K. Maycalf winning one-on-one, Jackson Smith and Jim. I think they've got some talent. I think they're going to put it together. I do love Kenneth Walker. O'Leary's still heuristic too. They never fix it. They never fix it since Wilson was there. That's true. That's a fact. That's a fact. You know 49ers are going to win. If that's the bet, I'll put 49ers. He might sweep the 49ers this year. That's crazy talk. That's right. I'm being honest. Bro, this team, this year, we young. Bro, we keep Stafford healthy. We're going to have probably a top-three O-line. We're winning. I'm telling you, bro. And Stafford is healthy, bro. He's healthy, bro. He's clinging to rock, bro. Stafford ain't healthy. I'm going to tell you this right now. How? Man, he's not healthy. Man, did you hear what the wife said on that podcast? I want to show Ty. Hey, I wish that he would. Bro, that's crazy, bro. She said she messed with the backup. She messed up. She messed with the backup guy, bro. That's crazy. You need to keep that to yourself. Yeah, that's wild. It's 1963 in my house if I hear that. That's crazy. I'm telling you, bro, I'm catching a lot of people looking at him. Hey, if Devin says something like that, I ain't around here. Hey. I'm talking mine out. I'm like, what? You did what? You know the world. You did what? And then now I got to think about Devin because now I'm going to backtrack and be like, well, bro, what was we doing back then? Right? Right? Is this kid even mine? What did he do? Hey, man, you need to check on Stafford right now, bro. Yeah, check on Stafford. No, I need to hit him up, man. That's crazy. Hey, hold on. Stafford's a gamer, bro. He'll be ready for week one. Based on for that alone, I'm going Niners. Niners and NFC West. All right. Stafford need to get his house in order, man. We got three for the Niners. Okay. Bro, hey. What's up? Where we going, AFC? Let's go to South. Let's go to South real quick. I think this one's easy. Hey, guys, I'm going to get these pigs in, man, and then I got to get dressed up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No doubt, no doubt, no doubt. NFC South. I'm going to go Falcons, man. I'm going Derek Carr, man, your old quarterback. Okay, okay, thanks. That's what you got, man. I'm going to Falcons, too. I believe Kirk Cousins, man. Hold on, hold on. Wait, wait. I forgot about Kirk. Kirk, B. John, Drake London, Kyle Pitts, a new offensive coordinator. I'm thinking on red list a little bit. Yeah, I'm going ATF. All right. Three for Atlanta. No Tampa, no Baker love, by the way. No, no. All right, let's go to AFC real quick, AFC East. You know what, you know what? I'm going no Tampa because I just can't see Terry because he might come up. Charlie's turn, man. Terry's turn real quick. This is tough right here. What division? AFC East. A-F-C East. Damn, that is tough. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. I'm going, man. I'm going to go Jets. I'm going to go Miami. Miami lost a lot. They lost Christian Wilkins. They lost Davian Howard. The offense is still going to be nasty. Yeah, the offense is the fastest in football in probably history. Man, I'm going to go Jets, man. If Aaron Rodgers is healthy, I think Jets win that. I think that's the best defense in the division by far, and I think Aaron Rodgers is the game changer. He is. If you get Brees tall, you get him a real quarterback, Garrett Wilson, Mike Williams, I'm going to go Jets, man. Jets? Jets, baby. I'm going to go Miami. All right. B-Rich, what are you looking like? I'm looking at a 10-10 shot. I'm going to go A-Rod. I'm looking at a 10-10 A-Rod, man. I'm going with the Jets, man. Yes, sir. Come on, B-Rich. All right. I like both of them, but I'm actually going to go Buffalo. Really? Yep. I think Josh Allen has it in him. What the heck? Josh Allen. All right. Where are we going next? AFC North. AFC North. I'm going, man. I'm going to beat them all again. Hey, yeah, I'll probably go Baltimore again. It's going to be hard to stop Henry running, bro. It is. That's tough. Tom Monk in offense. I'm going to go Baltimore. But I do like – I'm a Joe Burrow guy, man. Joe Burrow is the real deal. I do like him. I hate him for what he did to us. But at the same time, he's like that, though. I'm going Raven. Are you talking about what he did to you all in college when he scored that wheel against y'all and he could have scored 100? You don't get to elaborate on that, man. My bad. My bad. He had to say all that, man. I said, what do you think, bro? I'm going Baltimore. But now I'm going BMO, man. Dallas, you in the same place? I'm going Cincinnati. Oh, okay. I respect that. No Cleveland? No Deshaun? I thought about it. I actually think there's a world that all four of these teams have a chance to win it this year. Absolutely. Deshaun is going to mess around and get pinched. Bro, that's crazy. Joe Flacco again, huh? Look how much better Joe Flacco was. Flacco's out there. Jameis is there. Jameis is? I don't want to hear nothing about Jameis. He's a baller. He is. I like Jameis, man. He plays hard. He's funny. I like him outside of football. I don't think he's doing nothing on the football field. He's got his eyes fixed. He's ready. He's going to be ready to hold that clipboard all year. I hope Deshaun is playing because, bro, he's getting good. He's the third, fourth highest quarterback. It's a million a year, damn near. It's the money worth, man. Man. All right. Who we got left? AFC West? We got South. Oh, South. South and West. I'm going to go Houston. I'm not. Man, you know what? Since they done paid this man and made him the highest pay. South, right? Oh, Lord. Don't do it. Don't do it. Bro, don't do it. Man, H-Town, man. Don't do it. Houston is loaded, dog. Houston is loaded. Tennessee, bro, they went and got the wide receiver. They got. Calvin Ridley? I mean, can Levis in his second year finally let him play? Like. Oh, Levis can play foul in his second year. Look at Brandon Francis. I just think whatever they got going on, Houston has a better version and bring them back. Houston is starting up on offense and defense. They are. They are. Kind of reminiscent of that 2019-2018 Cleveland Browns to me, though. But, you know. Okay. Mr. Green, you know, so if everybody's going Houston, I'm going to take Tennessee. All right. Hold on, hold on, hold on. No love for the Colts? The Colts? Hey, the Colts are solid, man. They are solid. And I think Anthony Richardson is going to be nasty this year. And he's a top Tennessee quarterback for sure. Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to get busy. Colts in the mix. I got Colts finishing top two. Hey, man, I know it's off topic, but, man, we need to start a fantasy league. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I got one big money one. I can do one more. Let's do it. Let's do it. Put them in the dynasty league, Mike. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll talk about that offline and get it together, man. I think that'd be fun, man. All right, yeah, I'm going to go Indianapolis, actually. Oh, okay, Dallas. All right, AFC West. Other than the Raiders, who do I got winning? Kansas City, easy. Kansas City, man, right now. Now, I was going to say, man, Hollywood and Xavier, they ain't going to want to get hit. They run so fast, they're going to mess up their hamstrings. Uh-oh. Y'all got a chance. Hey, the Raiders can beat them. We told them we can beat Kansas City. Y'all got a defense. Kansas City is loaded. Kansas City is loaded. If I had to put money on it, I would say Kansas City, but the Raiders are going to be right there with them. No, I agree. And I like pins. I'm like, why don't you add emojis on this thing? I said, emoji now. Stop it. Just stop it. We beat Kansas City. We beat Kansas City. We beat them all Christmas. The Raiders ain't even close to them. We beat them down in Kwanzaa. That's crazy. Bro, stop. Are they close to them? Stop. No, bro, they ain't no close to them. Are they getting clipped? 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