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to you live right now with Pastor Gates here. How we doing baby? And it's your boy Skunkalicious guys. What up? How's it going man? Pastor Gates. Bill Gates. One and the only. My biggest brother Holt. This is Holt's first interview of the year I believe. Yeah. And it's great to have you. You're actually here on some different circumstances than what would normally bring you here on Rock Star Radio. So y'all know, as some of y'all may know, Holt is part of Team Crazy which is managed by Spider Crazy 8 and Rock Star Radio respectfully. But Holt is also taking a job with Rock Star Radio as one of our sound engineers. The wonderful Pastor Gates has decided that he is going to allow us to fully master, record, and engineer his album, Pastor Gates 2. And we wanted to come together and have a nice little chit chat and talk about that wicked shit and what brought these two together and how they're collaborating well. So let's start with this question right here man. Around the house, around the Rock Star Radio studio, we've come to really respect you and call you as Pastor Gates. What would you like the fan base to call you? What do they chant when they're ready for you to enter the big stage? Pastor Gates baby. It's the Pastor Gates agenda right now. That's what we're pushing. And we're on number two right now. This is a trilogy. It's a trilogy. We're on part two right now. Part one, you can find it right now on Spotify and all that, the Pastor Gates EP. Pastor Gates 2 is the mixtape. So that's the next step in the evolution. Full length project, you know, holding no stops. And I think it's just the natural next step in the evolution. We're going deeper into who Pastor Gates is. We're going deeper into the storytelling. And we're continually preaching the hatchet because that's what it's all about. Pastor Gates preaches the hatchet. I'm all about the Juggernauts. That's what it's about. Shangri-La. Yeah, that's where we're headed. You're heading to Shangri-La, man. Well, I don't know if y'all with that wiki shit, bro. So I've got a question and this is going to have two separate answers to it. So explain to me the progression of Pastor Gates 1 into Pastor Gates 2. Quality of beat, quality of sound, quality of lyricism, and quality of vocalist. Okay, so Pastor Gates 1. First off, I recorded that whole thing, mixed, mastered myself. We had one beat from my brother Brokenstar, who is fully produced in PG2, but it was primarily produced by the homie Count Henny. And he makes amazing beats. But at the end of the day, he's not a Juggalo. He respects Juggalos and he'll work with us all day. But I wanted this particular project to be touched by Juggalo hands only. I really wanted it to have the family vibe from start to finish, top to bottom. So were you able to find a producer that is definitely part of the family? Absolutely. That's my brother Brokenstar. He produced the first track on the first Pastor Gates project. And personally, that's my favorite. So it just made sense to lean in with him on Pastor Gates 2 for the entire project. And it's amazing. Man, I've never really sounded quite like this. We sound like money now. Pastor Gates 1 had a little bit of a grit and grime to it. But this one right here, this is the shiny, the shiny edition of Pastor Gates. Cleaned up. It's wrapped up nicely. What is your thoughts on Brokenstar? Man, I've worked with a lot of different producers, beats like U2. Brokenstar has really good quality. He's got girth, you know, for lack of better. He's got substance to his beats. I've noticed he really gives you a lot of melodies. He doesn't leave anything empty or any space. Like he serves the beat. And it's like, to me, every beat has a soul. And all of his beats definitely have a soul. So it was nice to work with that caliber of a producer, especially with, you know, a phenomenal young artist coming up. Man, it's been a pleasure. Now, have you had the chance to communicate at all with this producer and work with him on a more closer level since starting this project yet? Or y'all haven't made that connection just yet? Not yet, but I'm hoping to. All right. Rockstar Radio is going to do everything I've powered. Right. We're going to make him knock back. I'm making connections, you know. We can do that and keep doing that. Then we all grow. Yes, sir. Sir, I'm happy to be the bridge for that connection. I'll make sure you get in touch with Brokenstar. Me and him have been working since 2020 when I started with my first mixtapes. He was on the title track of the Trashboy mixtape itself. So he's been a part of the movement. A huge supporter and believer in me since, really, before there was reason to do so. So that's my brother, A1 Day One, cooking, as you said, quality, full beats that got a soul to it, you know. And it's, again, it's by Juggalo hands. So this whole project is entirely for the family. Oh, yeah. We'd love to hear it, man. Now, as a Juggalo artist, are you a storyteller? Are you horrorcore? Give me that sub-genre that you fall into in that underground, bro. Juggalo first. Juggalo rapper is how I define myself. And so within Juggalo art, I think you have the ability to really dive into storytelling, of course, as the Wicked Clowns have done. You can dive into, you know, crazy lyrical type things. You could dive into, you know, like you said, some super horrorcore, grimy, gory shit, you know. And I like to experiment with all of it. So is Pastor Gates a story? Yeah. Pastor Gates is, you know, a version of myself that's, it's like Will Gates was young a little. And he realized that the family was where he needed to be. And he needed to help the family grow. So the pastor stepped in. And all we're doing is preaching the hatchet. We're preaching the family. And we're showing y'all the way to Shangri-La. And whether you want to follow or not, that's up to you. But we have the way. So here at Rockstar Radio, man, and like realistically from the get-go, a year ago next week, I went to The Float, which is a big Juggalo event, ran by Tom Woods and Ogre from Hatchet Mountain Records. Shout the fuck out, guys. And I've been very involved in the Juggalo scene. I started off as a Juggalo when I was a kid. I absolutely love the family. I love everything that they're about. But from the get-go, I noticed that the line between Juggalo and non-Juggalo is very blurred right now. And I'm trying to reach out and appeal to not necessarily non-Juggalos, because like my brother Hulk here has grown up and been around Juggalos his whole life. But it wasn't never something that he was faced with where he realized that he was down with the clown. And like Hulk's down with the clown, bro. Whoop whoop. Whoop whoop. Hell yeah, dawg. But we don't focus on just Juggalos only, but you can hopefully attest that the Hatchet love is real in this house. Absolutely. And I get what you mean, man. We're trying to be the bridge. So there's a whole lot of people out there as Juggalos and they don't know it. So my goal is to speak to them and bring them to the family. That's what I'm talking about when I say I'm trying to lead you to Shangri-La. My albums are dope. Bump them. But I'm trying to lead you to the Joker's cards and to the family and get you to the gathering. That's the long-term game. So of all the artists that you've worked with and I'll say sound engineers, producers, people that you have collaborated with, how many people has it been a physical you and them collaboration for a musical idea, song, album, etc.? Like sitting down in the room together? Yes, sir. This is my first time producing a whole album in a room with somebody. So me and my brother Hulk have gotten down. We locked ourselves in the studio for the last two weeks. We've come up with an arsenal, you know, quite an arsenal, and we're about to unleash that upon the world. So I'm super fucking stoked. You might have heard a couple of the demo versions of, you know, like I'm a sick fuck, the devil has always been you on my YouTube. But the full mixed and mastered versions are entirely new beasts. Hell yeah. Now Hulk, have you had the chance of working with any other Juggalo artists in your years? One. One other Juggalo? Clown 6 from Pumbaa. Hell yeah. Yeah, you know, I've done songs with him. Now was it like a mixing and engineering side of it or was it more of a rapping along side of? It was kind of in the early stages of my growth as an engineer, kind of putting hands on and figuring things out. So I can't say that I was the best, but I do have a lot of appreciation for him as an artist. He's kind of a legend in the area that I'm from. So, but yeah, working with him was dope and working with Pastor Gates has been a dope experience too. So I can't can't knock either one, you know, or say that I have a favorite, but no, I definitely can't say anything negative about either. Right. That's one thing that we really like to do here in Rockstar Radio is be all inclusive. We want Juggalos to be comfortable in coming here and being able to be Juggalos, which Juggalos themselves are very uncomfortable being themselves. We have hiding holes that we go and hang out in to do that. So what's the biggest stage that you've ever performed on? I would say the Battle Rap this year had a packed out tent at the gathering. That was quite an experience. What about a book show? A book show? I think Faye Chella this year was quite a hit, you know. Hey man, shout out Spida, bro. Yeah, shout out Spida. Shout out Rockstar Radio for helping bring me out. Shout out my dog Loki for bringing me in the conversation. Loki Trickster of Rockstar Radio. That's my dog. He's been believing in me since, again, since before there's been a reason to, you know. And he believed in me and we have had quite some growth since I got out here, to say the least. Yeah, I've had the unique opportunity of running into Loki at several different venues in several different states. And at one point we just came together and we said, you know, why aren't we, you doing what I do by bringing artists from out there in here and just focusing in artist discovery. Go and find these independent, hard-working artists that are willing to put the effort in that can write an album in two weeks. You know, it's not that hard to sit down and buckle down. Right. You know, this is your job and if you take it seriously as a job, everything is accomplished. And you can sound right, you can be recorded properly, you can have sound engineering. How many music videos you got planned for this? For this project, we got three. We got two in the bag already. We got a live performance video for Frozen Like Judas. We got one for a song called Hit Once. Both are off Pastor Gates, too. And yeah, man, these are going to be some of the freshest videos I've ever put out in any capacity. These are immaculate. I got to see a little, little sneak peek of what we're working on. It's crisp, to say the least. Hell yeah, man. So as a Juggalo artist, we know there's a lot of things that you hold special, and I could hear it in your song. We hear the number 17. We hear the Faygo. We hear the Hatchet. Is there anything that you could say that you could throw onto this list that you were going to hear from beginning to end on your album? Beginning to end, it's kind of a roller coaster of a project, you know what I mean? I really put my soul into this one. You know, Pastor Gates, the EP, was a little bit more storytelling, and this one's diving a little bit deeper into the Juggalo soul, if you will. So I think you'll find, if you're a low tapping into this project, that some of these themes, some of these things that I might be experiencing might be a little bit familiar, you know what I mean? All the way through, it's the Juggalo soul straight through that project. As I said, every hand that has touched it and been a part of this project, it's all Juggalos. So it's for the fam, by the fam. Hell yeah, whoop whoop. Real quick, man, do you have any phobias and fears? I think like fucking like super crazy heights. I'm not gonna lie, like skydiving, I've always thought about that shit. Like part of me is like that height, another part of me is like that's... Detch. Yeah. Phobias and fears, Hulk? Uh-uh. No, man. I don't really have any. I don't really see a reason. I'm scared of one thing really bad. I don't like getting shot in the back. Not happened yet, just definitely try to keep it on the top of my list. Go ahead, tell us where to find you, man. Shout out your social medias and tell us who you rock with, bro. Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at fuckwillgates, f-u-c-c willgates, Instagram at billydefense, billy with a y-d-a fence, Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal. Anywhere you like to stream music, you can search up Will Gates and you can also find me on Facebook as Will Gates as well. Hell yeah. Hulk, you unplug your social medias for everyone? Yeah, man. Facebook, Paul Jackson. You know, Hulk is kind of a nickname that I've had for a long time, but yeah, you know, meta, you know, fucking everything up. Making it their name. Yeah, man. I'm an artist. I got some stuff coming out too. You can find me on all major platforms under Hulk, that's h-u-l-c. So look me up. All right, guys. Thank y'all for tuning in to Rockstar Radio, guys. Uh, fucking let me get a whoop whoop from the fucking chat, from people, from the audio, baby, and uh, keep rocking with us, guys. Whoop whoop. You're not fucking with Rockstar Radio. You fucking up. Get out of the way, baby.