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In this conversation, the speakers discuss their observations and experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic in relation to Christianity and political beliefs. They mention how some Christians were hypocritical in not following COVID safety measures, such as wearing masks and getting vaccinated, despite their religion emphasizing love and care for others. They also mention how some Christians were intolerant of differing political views, particularly regarding former President Trump. The speakers express surprise and disappointment in these behaviors. Hey guys, what is up? I'm still here with Eric because, as you know, this is part 2 of episode 4. That's right, my brothers. This is part 2. This is our first ever two-part episode. Um, so if you have- You guys are here. Yeah. Yeah, literally. That's fuckin' special. You should feel special, everyone listening. Yeah, um, you all get a cookie. Um, chocolate chip flavored. So- You don't have a choice. Yeah, fuck you. I'm just kidding. But also, please stay. Yeah, please stay. Um, if you didn't watch or listen to the last episode, I highly recommend that you go and watch it because, um, we're gonna be talking about, like, our opinions on Christianity and laws and viewpoints and stuff. And in the last episode, we talked about, like, our personal experiences with growing up within the Christian religion and, um, going through a lot of our, um, traumas. And we just talk about, you know, like, different stories. Um, so I highly recommend that you go over there because I'm not going through that again because that was a 40 minute episode. Um, thank y'all for returning to listen to part two. And to kick us off, I want to go, um, I want to do a little flashback. And I want us to, like, put ourselves in 2020. Like, because I don't know- You just got over this shit, like- Like, I don't know if it was like this for you, but I didn't, um, notice, uh, like, political issues that involved Christianity until 2020. Really? Yeah, well, Grant, you're also older than me. You gotta remember that. Yeah, a little bit. Um, but- Not, like, ancient, but- Not ancient, but, like, in 2020 was whenever, uh, that was, like, primetime Black Lives Matter movement. Uh, it was the election between Trump and Biden. It was the COVID-19 pandemic. Um, and eventually, you know, it was- this was not 2020, but, you know, eventually the overturning of Roe v. Wade and all that. Um, but I didn't, like, realize that, um, people were so inconsiderate, or like- Okay, okay, better word. I didn't realize that people were such fucking hypocrites until 2020. Like, I feel like 2020 was the eye-opening year for me that, wow, these Christian bitches are, like, not Christian. Let me ask you a question, though. Let me ask you a question, though. Okay, okay. Do you think it's because, like, so to speak, because we were in a pandemic, do you think that the world, like, slowed down so, like, people had more time on their hands? Like, they weren't, like, caught up in that nine-to-five grind where they were just, like, focused on, like, making ends meet? So, like, people had more time to, like, actually focus on, like, societal issues? Or do you think it was just kind of, like, like your awakening? Or do you think it was just, like, a worldwide kind of, like, awakening? You know what I mean? Um, yeah, I get what you're saying, but this was, this, I feel like it was definitely worldwide. Well, not worldwide, but countrywide, at least, you know? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Um, because, like, it happened to my, it happened for my parents, too. Like, because my parents were, like, uber Republican. Like, they, they fucking hated Obama. That's wild. Like, they hated that guy. My parents did, too. Like, but, like, you know, during 2020 slash after 2020, like, they changed. And I changed. And I think it's because, I think it's, I think you're right. Like, I think that everyone was, like, whoa, these things happen. And these things are bad. Yeah. Well, you know, you know, some people thought they were bad. Some people were, like, hell yeah, let's go. Yeah, brother. Eagle speech. Yeah, yeah. USA, USA. But yeah, that's a, that's a good point, now that you bring that up. Because, like, I also think that that time period, you know, because people slowed down, um, they had a lot of time to, like, self-reflect. Um, because I know a lot of people, um, that I know, they, like, shifted more left, either during or after the pandemic. Um, because, I guess, because, you know, people thought, Eric, I think your mic is, like, broken. Sorry. Is it good now? Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. I might, I might try to edit that, that, that out, because you're fucking disturbance. No, I'm just kidding. I'm bad. I'm just kidding. Just making sure you guys are awake, you know? Yeah, pay attention, you fuckers. Um, so, yeah. Well, now I'm off my, anyways, okay. So, I realize, so, vaccinations, that's what I want to talk about. Oh, my God. Vaccinations and masks. Um, you're from Pennsylvania. Sure. And you live there primarily. I mean, I know you come down here sometimes. But, um, did you guys have, like, an issue with people not masking, or, like, not vaccinating? Um, yes and no. So, we, up in Pennsylvania, we had pretty, like, strict vaccination laws. Um, we were, under lockdown, I'm pretty sure longer than you guys. That would make sense. Probably a good idea, too, so. But it was, like, really weird, though, because where I lived, um, if you remember from, like, the first episode, we lived in a very, like, like, it wasn't populated. Like, it was, you know? Um, it wasn't, like, even close to a city, like, a little town of, like, 5,000 people. Um, but even with that, like, we locked down pretty heavy. But you had, like, the stereotypical, like, you know, they're taking away my ranch type of people. Yeah. You know what I mean? And they would, like, not mask up. Um, I feel like that's kind of, like, how it was around the country. But I feel like down south, whenever I moved here, because I actually, um, moved to North Carolina during the pandemic, you would think that COVID didn't exist down here. Yep. Because no one, no one fucking wore a mask, bro. You know what I mean? Like, it was, it was pretty bad, um, with the mask wearing. Yeah. Um, I just, um, think that it's, like, crazy. Because, um, most, now, this is a generalization, okay? There are obviously people out there who do not apply to this generalization. But that's why I'm stating it's a fucking generalization. So, most Christians tend to lean right. And, um, especially where I come from, oh my god. Um, I think, dude, where I come from, I'm pretty sure it's, like, an unspoken rule that, like, if you didn't vote for Trump, like, you can't be a part of the church. Wait, what? An unspoken rule? Yeah. Dude, like, if you're a- Okay, I thought you said actual for a second. No, no, no, no, no. You're fucked, bro. Dude, like, if you're a liberal, people are gonna, like, shun you. And, like, hate you. Um, and, okay, oh my god, side note. Okay, guys, this has nothing to do with the topic, but I need to say this. So, this was, um, my senior year of high school. And so we still had to wear masks. And we had to, we had, like, 15, 10, 15 minute mask breaks, right? For each class. So we went outside. Yeah, it was, like, to give us a break from the mask. So we would go outside, because obviously going outside makes the COVID go away. Um, so I would just keep my mask on, because, like, I hated the mask breaks, and I thought they were stupid, and I wasn't, we literally were not allowed to stay inside. Like, we had to take these mask breaks. Um, and I remember I was sitting outside, I was wearing my mask, and this guy walks out. His name's fucking Joseph, okay? He's wearing his fucking big-ass country boy boots, and he goes, you fucking liberal. Take off your, take off your fucking, you fucking liberal, take off your mask, what's wrong, just take off that mask break, what's wrong with you? And I just looked at him. And he walked away. I was flabbergasted. I was like, yeah, and like, the girl he was walking with, like, slapped him. She was like, shut up! And I was like, well. That's embarrassing. That's, okay. Yeah, that's, sorry, guys, I just had to, like, include that. Joseph couldn't see it, but your mouth was agape. Yeah, he couldn't see it, but, like, my jaw dropped. You're like, what the fuck? Like, that's how shocked I was. But, um, I just had to say that, guys, because, like, I know there's a lot of people out there that's like, ah, ah, ah, people, people didn't make fun of you for wearing a mask, people don't make fun of you for, yes, they do. Yes, they do. Okay, anyways. Um, so, like, I found it really, really crazy to me. Like, it was really crazy to me that the people who refused to wear masks were the people who followed a religion that, like, preached on loving one another and caring for one another and being considerate, right? So, you gotta think, right? The reason we wore masks was, um, it was not to protect yourself, okay? Um, it was to keep other people from getting it, because it spread through droplets, right? If I cough and I'm wearing a mask, there's less of those little tiny particles going into the air. It's in my mask. Um, and if I didn't have a mask on, well, there's COVID everywhere, dude. Um, so, I find it kind of crazy that the whole point of wearing a mask is to keep other people from getting sick. So, it's, it's like, you need to have empathy, you need to care about people, like, to wear a mask. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does make sense. Um, but it's like, the people who literally read a book, like, that just talks about loving everyone and, like, and, you know, caring for other people, they, they just refuse to do that. Like, they, they actively fought against it, actually. Yeah. Um, just because, like, it was an, it's an infringement on my rights. Dude, it's a piece of fucking plastic over your fucking mouth. Like, I really, I, I don't, I mean, it's not that hard, but it was such an inconvenience to them. And I remember that, um, you know, we were shut down or whatever. Uh, and, you know, it was, it was whenever it was really, really bad. So, they banned, like, public meetings of, like, you know, so many people at a time. Um, and people were so upset about it, because, like, I can't have church, I can't have church. And then they would go to church anyways. And then guess what? COVID outbreak in the church. Oh, no. Oh, no. The elderly man who sat in the back died, because we gave him COVID, because we broke the rules. Oh, no. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just drink the blood of Christ, bro. Everything will be fine. Like, I don't know. It's crazy to me that those, and it's a generalization, guys. It's a generalization I know that there's people, Christians out there who weren't like this, but there are so many of y'all that were like this, that it's a generalization. Um. Yeah, for sure. And it's, it's just so crazy. Like, y'all are supposed to love everybody. Y'all are supposed to care. Like, I don't understand why you're fighting against something that could protect people, you know? Well, I mean, it kind of goes hand in hand with, like, the whole abortion thing. You know what I mean? If you're supposed to love and care about, like, the well-being of people, um, you know, why are you outside of abortion clinics calling women whores for wanting to get an abortion? You know what I mean? That's not very, that's not very live, laugh, love, Karen. That's not very live, laugh, love. That's not very, you know, love thy neighbor-like. Um. If anything, that's, like, the least Christian thing that you can do. Um. And I think that some of the people who claim to be the most Christian are some of the least Christian people I have ever met. Agree. Again, like, like Regan said, it's a massive generalization, you know, that, like, all Christians are the ones standing outside of, um, you know, abortion clinics and not wearing masks, et cetera. Yeah. But it just seems that way, you know? Like, these are the people who are against abortion, but also say, you know, we're also against masks. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Like, I don't know, man. They just, like, it's very much like a for everyone else but not for me type of thing. Yeah, it's like, okay. I, like, okay, this is so hard to, like, talk about because it's hard for me to find words. But, um, I feel like in America, people have forgotten that, like, we don't have an established religion. We, it literally says in the fucking Constitution that we have a freedom of religion. Mm-hmm. Um, because, you know, whenever you do have an established religion, you know, that's when people start getting fucking murdered for not believing in it or getting locked in jail for not believing. Um, and that's bad, guys. I don't know, that's bad. I'm just saying, if you, if you think that's right, I think you need to see a therapist. Well, like, if you think about it, though, like, I mean, even with an unestablished religion, you're still going to have, like, a majority religion within the country, right? Yeah. And, you know, like, Christianity is, like, the majority. Um, but, I mean, it hasn't gotten to the extent of, like, killing people who are, like, non-Christian, but it's gotten to the point where people's, like, rights are being taken away. You know what I mean? Yeah. Which is, like, a very small step towards, like, total, like, white Christian nationalism. You know what I mean? Yeah. We're not, like, I'm, like, that's, what I said was very, very extreme, but, like, it takes small things to equal big things, you know? For sure. Um, and it's, like, with the whole, like, abortion, uh, gay marriage, um, prayer in school, um, stuff like that, I feel, like, it's just so obnoxious because it's, like, we have freedom of religion. It's protected in the Constitution, but you guys are acting like we are, like, we're infringing on your rights, right? Like, as if, as if Christians have their own Constitution. Like, we're infringing on their rights because we don't have forced prayer in school. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's, like, oh, no, we're the, we're the ones who are the victims here because you guys aren't, you know, making people pray in school. Or, like, you guys aren't making everyone straight, you know? Yeah, well, this is, like, kind of, like, off the, it's kind of, like, on topic, but I don't know if you've seen it, but it's popped up on, like, my TikTok page, but it's, like, some Karen. It's, like, she paints her face, like, to have, like, bruises on it and stuff. Like, it's, like, makeup. And it was just, like, you know, the future whenever, like, Christians are jailed and she's, like, sitting in, like, a jail cell, like, beaten up, just, like, crying, like, face crying and stuff. It's, like, painting them out to be, like, like, victims and shit, like, that would ever happen. You know what I mean? I have seen. I haven't seen that video, but there are so many fucking variations of it that it's, like, I know, I know what you're talking about. It's so cringe, dude. It's so cringe. I need to read something. I need to read something. I need to find it first, though. There's a, there's a trend of this whole, like, like, Christians being, like, oh, my god, like, we're the ones that are, uh, bad. I mean, wait, fuck. We're the ones that are being treated bad. Like, yeah, we're the only ones that are bad. Um, I'm trying to fucking find it, because they posted this during Pride Month. Jamie, pull this up. Jamie, pull up a picture of... Um, while I'm trying to find this... Mm-hmm. Uh, I forgot what I was going to say. Yeah, while you're trying to, yeah, while you're trying to find it, um, like, I think it was, like, back on, it was back in the first, like, part of it, we were kind of, like, we're talking about, like, how I didn't have, like, a problem with, like, religion. But, like, where I draw the line is, like, where you start to, like, here's, here's my thing. So, we can't prove that, like, the afterlife is real, right? No one has been, has gone to heaven, like, 100%, and has coming back, or came back, and has said, you know, it's, it's real. Like, 100% without a doubt. And it's, like, you know, dude, like, this is real. So, like, it could be fake, could be, you know, right, whatever. But, like, you're having, you're, you know, taking away laws, or you're taking away, like, abortion, or you're taking away rights away from people. And this has, like, real-world effects on people. You know what I mean? Like, I can see that this woman is, like, not able to have, like, an abortion. I can see, like, you know, the horrible effects that, like, religious trauma has on, like, people. You know what I mean? Like, your pain that you had towards, like, or, like, the anger that you had towards, like, religion and stuff, like, that is real. Like, I can prove that. You know what I mean? But, like, I can't prove that, like, God exists. You know what I mean? So, like, do you know what I mean? Like, why are we making these laws, and, like, why are we taking away rights for shit that we can't prove 100%? Because it's having, like, real-world effects on shit that's, like, on people. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? Yeah. Yes, it does make sense. Um, I couldn't find it, because I think she deleted it. L. Um, but, there is this person that I follow on Facebook, and, like, every pride month, it does not fail that, uh, she posts something about, like, the rainbow being for God or whatever. And, um, of course, there are some people here and there that will, like, comment on her, like, hey, like, they're nice about it, too. They're like, hey, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, like, basically saying why she's a fucking bigot. Um, and, immediately after she posted one of these, like, Christian rainbow posts or something, she posted something that was like, uh, if, uh, something about, like, um, if I disagree with you, it doesn't mean I hate you, or something like that. It was like a Morgan Freeman quote. You can probably find it somewhere, but that's the gist of what she posted. Yeah, well, isn't it, yeah, it's pretty much like, you know, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean that I hate you, and, like, it's normal to have, like, disagreements with people. Yes. So, in that, Christians use that argument all the time. But, another person who I love dearly, um, commented and was like, uh, talking about how disagreeing, um, about, you know, someone's identity, um, or, like, things that are really, really, like, fucking human rights. Like, you can't disagree about human rights. It's, they're fucking human rights. For sure. That's what, um, uh, the other lady was saying. And, so, the original poster commented back, and was like, I never said anything about the LGBTQ community. I don't know why, um, you're blowing up my comment section. And, it's like, okay, first of all, bitch, you literally made two posts within, like, 30 minutes of each other, right? It's kind of, it was kind of implied. Yeah. Um. It doesn't take fucking Sherlock Holmes to figure this out. Yeah. And, so, that was her reply. And, then, she goes on to comment, like, not replying to anyone. She just commented on her own posts. And, she was like, can we talk about how hard it is to be a Christian nowadays? Oh, my fucking God. We're always being persecuted because, like, we're, we're, we're trying to defend the Bible. We're trying to preserve the Lord's Word. And, we're trying to, blah, blah, blah. Like, it's so hard to be a Christian now. Like, we're the ones who are oppressed. Like, girl, shut the fuck up. You wanna know why it's so hard to defend the Bible? Because there's no, like, actual fucking evidence that any of what it's saying is fucking right. True. That's why it's so hard, dude. True. Like, that's why it's so hard. It's not because, you know, you don't have anyone on your side. I mean, you have a whole entire fucking political party on your side. Like, it is so easy to be fucking Christian in this country, bro. You know what I mean? It literally is, like, oh, my God. It pisses me off. Like, the victim complex is so, oh, my God. Well, that's, like, that's, like, the thing. I don't know if it's, like, a phenomenon or whatever, but, like, everyone's, like, the victim in their story. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, everyone else is, like, the bad guy, and you're always, like, the one that gets hurt. Like, I don't know, dude. Oh, my God. This just made me think of, like, the video you were talking about. Mm-hmm. Like, of the lady, like, they're beating me up for being a Christian. I remember in, like, 2020, 2021, the vaccine thing was, like, a huge deal. Like, everyone's like, oh, my God, they're putting microchips in you, or whatever. Of course, they're the lizard people. Yeah, and so, like, there was these TikToks that I would see on my For You page of, like, guess what race they were. Probably white, dude. Yeah, they were white and blonde, which was, you know, kind of weird. But anyways, they were white and blonde, most of them, and they were, like, they would be acting. And the other person would say, like, are you ready to receive your microchip vaccine or whatever? Dude, I've never seen this video. Yes, and they were, like, and the person, and they were, like, if you don't take it, you're going to be shot and killed or something like that. Yeah, yeah. And then they're, like, no, I'm not going to take it because I love God, and he will not give the mark of the beast in me through this vaccine. Bro, that's so cringe. And then they, like, started, like, crying and, like, getting fake beat up, and I'm like, bro, like, why do you want to be oppressed so bad? Like, it's, like, it's honestly fan behavior, like. You know what's honestly, like, even worse is whenever they compare it to, like, the Holocaust. Bro, oh my God. Like, they act like they've been, like, rounded up, and then it's, like, dude. Like, why, why do you want to be, why do you want to be the victim so bad? Like, listen, listen, if you want to be, like, discriminated against or, like, beat up, you know, like, just be gay. Be black. You know? Like, do literally anything that's not white straight Christian, and then you're fine. Just do anything that's, like, not in your normal day routine. You can live out your dream of being oppressed all you want to, my friend. Skip out your little Whole Foods trip, you know? Be poor. Yeah. You don't have to roleplay anymore. Like, you can just go out and do it, buddy. You can be oppressed. Like, why, I just don't understand. It's that cool. They're so obsessed with it. Like, I don't understand. They're very much in the fucking minority, majority. 110% they're in the majority. Oh my God. That's fucking crazy. Oh my God. Okay. Take a breath, Reagan. I'm getting worked up. Can you just leave the call? I just leave. Eric's like, uh. It's like, well, I guess it's a solo show now. This is Eric's podcast now. Can we talk about, okay, this is something I also want to talk about. Talk about whatever you want, bro. Because it's abortion, right? So Christians, most Christians, again, generalization, think that abortion is murder, right? And since the overturn of Roe v. Wade, a lot of southern slash red states have gone to the six-week abortion ban. Kind of like Texas did. Six weeks? Jesus Christ. Yeah, dude. You can't even, I don't even think you can detect a heartbeat. Most people don't even know they're pregnant until six or seven weeks. And I just, I don't know. And I just, you know, a lot of their arguments is like, what if that baby, like, had the cure to cancer? Or like, what if that baby was the president, right? That's the dumbest argument you could possibly make. Also, what if that gay kid you bullied into suicide had the cure for cancer, right? Or what if this motherfucker started a social media page and started acting like the victim whenever he was a Christian person? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I just, they're always like, but what if, but what if, but what if? But you don't think about them now. Like, okay, so, I've told you this before because we've had conversations about this. Like, I don't want kids. I think it would, like, the thought of having a child freaks me out so much. I would, I had said that if I ever got raped and ended up pregnant and couldn't get an abortion, I would kill myself. Like, that's how much it terrifies and disgusts me. So, it's like, they always think about the baby, but they never think about the person who has to carry the baby. Right? Yeah. It's like, a lot of, they're like, oh, they have rape exceptions, they have incest exceptions. A lot of people don't. A lot of states don't. So, it's like, if I'm sitting here and I get raped, listen, I'm on birth control and I'm a gay lady. Like, there's no way that I'm intentionally getting pregnant. Like, you can't use, for me, you can't use the excuse, oh, well, it's your own fault. The only way that I would get pregnant is if I was raped. And so, like, forcing someone who has had years of life. Like, I've experienced so much. I'm already alive. I'm out of the womb. I'm here. I have so much more to live. Yeah, for sure. But it's like, you're going to put me through nine months of symptoms. Nine months of people asking, hey, what's the gender? Like, are you excited? Like, is this your first? When it's really a product of, you know, just the most awfulest thing that could happen to someone. Yeah. And then I would have to go and go through childbirth, which is one of the most painful fucking things a human can go through. And then, you know, either give it up for adoption or keep it. And it's like, I'm somebody. Like, I've already had so much life. And it's like, to put someone through that when it can be easily avoided, you know, like, whenever. So a lot of people are like, a lot. Oh, my God. Words, Reagan. A lot of people who get abortions get them, like, in the first trimester. Right. I don't know where these people get, like, the idea that people are like 30 weeks pregnant. And they're like, oh, I actually don't want this baby. Because, like, why would you wait 30 fucking weeks? And then just like, I don't want this anymore. Yeah. Like, the most, like, super, super, like, you know, like, this 30 week abortions or whatever. I mean, they happen. It's because the baby is, like, actually just either dead or there's, like, a health hazard for the for the mom. Right. It's usually not by choice there. Right. Correct. So it's like these people are thinking that it's like, no, no, it's like at that point. I hate I hate saying this because, you know, to them, to them, you know, it's life. Right. Like, they think that, like, as soon as conception happens, it's life. So I don't really like using the term clump of cells. But I mean, at that point, that's really what it what it looks like, you know, within that first trimester. Like, you know, it's the size of a blueberry, you know, like, very, very, very small. Like, it's not also not conscious. Like, yeah, it's not conscious yet. It's not like it's like to me, what makes something human is our consciousness. I agree. And that could be a whole of a whole other fucking podcast episode. But like, that's that's my mindset is that, like, our consciousness and our our ability to feel like emotions is what makes us human. And it's like at that point, it's like a couple hundred cells, you know, the size of a blueberry. And I just feel like it's not that big of a deal. Like, listen, listen, listen, Christians, if you're if you're out there listening to this, okay, and you're a Christian, right? I think it's totally okay that you don't want an abortion, right? Because of your, to emphasize this, Y-O-U-R, your beliefs. If you don't want an abortion, that is a-okay, you know, good for you. I don't care. But as soon as you start, like, forcing that onto me when I don't even believe in your God, like, yeah, that's it. You're overstepping your boundary, pal. I need you to step the fuck back. Like, it's kind of like what I stated earlier. Whenever you start infringing on other people's rights that like, you know, they don't practice your religion, but you're kind of like, making their mind up for them. Yeah, that's not, that's not cool. It's kind of bullshit. That is not cool at all. Happens with gay marriage, too. Like, no one's going to force you to like, if I'm a guy, like, no one's going to force me to fuck a guy. You know what I mean? Dude, oh my God. And be like, married to a guy. You know what I mean? If you like, legalize gay marriage. This is going to get us on a whole other topic. But like, um, Christians like saying that gay people are indoctrinating their children. Bruh. Like, yes. Do you know how many fucking 35-year-old fucking redneck dads I see with like, their 6-year-old like, little girl shooting like, a pink AR-15? Or, or... Is that like, indoctrinating your child? Like, I don't know what is. Even better, even better. You put your toddler in a shirt that says, fuck Joe Biden. Based. Like, come on now. Right. Jesus. Oh my God. I love, like, we didn't even finish our fucking topic of abortion. But there's just so much shit that I need to talk about right now. I'm just like, fucking skipping around. We're kind of on a tangent here. Listen, listen. The moral of the story for the last topic is like, if you don't want an abortion, that's cool. But like, stop fucking telling me what to do with my fucking body. Cool? Thanks. Um, so like, about the like, indoctrination or whatever. Uh, I love, love, love, love the fact that Christians slash Republicans think that teachers, um, teaching about love and acceptance is indoctrination. I love that. That's weird. Because that's like, their whole fucking book! Like, like, is it that your entire religion, guys? Like, correct me if I'm wrong. Like, love thy neighbor. Be honest with other people. Don't judge them. Save your judgment, because God will judge them. Dude, that's my favorite thing. Like, my mom will say that, like, all the time. I'm not going to judge these people because God will judge them as she proceeds to say, like, the most, like, judgmental shit. As she proceeds to, like, hate on a gay couple in a TV show and call them fudge packers while I'm sitting in the room. Bro. And this is like, this is like the first time I've met this woman. It was pretty cooked. I was on FaceTime. Was I on FaceTime with you? Yeah, you were. You were. Or Lizzie, or one of those. Yeah, I was on FaceTime. Yeah, I was on FaceTime, uh, I was FaceTiming with Lizzie. And then that happened. I was like, okay, guys, new subject! New subject, guys. I was like, I definitely just didn't hear that, but, you know. Uh, like, okay. So they say it's like indoctrination because they're like, oh my God, my kid's going to, like, be gay now. Or like, my kid's going to be trans now, right? So, um, respectfully, guys, if you listened to the first part of the, uh, this podcast, you already know. But, like, I was gay before I knew that gay was a concept. Like. She was gay before it was cool, bro. Yeah, I was gay before it was cool, bitch. I was at the ripe age of, like, nine. I had a crush on a girl. So, like, and, like, this was, like, 2014. There were no books about, like, uh, having two moms or having two dads. There were no books that said that, you know, like, oh, I don't like my, like, I don't feel right in my body. Like, I like this body better. Like, there were no books about that. There was, I could not name a single gay character on a TV show. I could, let alone a trans character, right? Because, you know, within the LGBTQ community, trans people are more discriminated against than just, like, the gay and lesbian and bisexual people. Like, um, but I still turned out gay, guys. Like. Yeah, I mean, like, being gay has been, it's been around for a very long time. And it's not just, like, in humans. It's, like, in other species of, like, rabbits and shit. They're gay as fuck. Rabbits are gay as shit. We've been here. And you're not gonna get rid of us by, like, banning books. And you're not gonna get rid of us by, like, controlling the curriculum. Like, we've been here. We have a history. It might have been erased, you know, but we have a fucking history. And that just makes me so mad. Because it's, like, ugh, oh my god, they're just trying so hard to, like, make their kids fit into this fucking mold. Like, we talked about in the first episode. Like, they're trying so hard to shove them into this mold. And it's, like, parents, if anyone's, sorry. No, you're fine. You're fine. You were talking. I wasn't gonna interrupt you. If there's any parents out there listening to this, or, like, soon-to-be parents, or, fuck it. If you're just gonna, if you're planning on having kids in the future, like, no matter how hard you try to force your kid into a mold, they're not gonna fit into it. Like, they may fit into your mold, you know, for 18 years, but as soon as they're out of your house, they're gonna break through, they're gonna break out of it and make their own mold. Like, you can't, like, trying to control someone and control how they grow, like, control who they are, that's just entirely fucked up. And a lot of those kids that, you know, grow up with those types of parents, they go no contact. Like, they cut their ties. So, if you're someone out there listening to this, just, I just want you guys to be aware of that. Yeah. And, like, you know, in the first episode, you're talking about, like, your experience and how much emotional turmoil you, like, went through because you were trying to fit that mold. That's gonna happen to, like, your kids, too, if you try to force them into, like, believing what you believe or force them to live, like, a particular way. Like, just let kids, like, figure it out on their own. Like, the best way of, like, learning is to, like, experience things. Exactly. You know what I mean? You know, like, even if you don't agree with it, I feel like it's really important to kind of, like, educate your kids on, like, people who are different from them. Because if you only experience one worldview, you're never gonna have, like, an actual conception or, like, concept of, like, what the world is actually like. If you're constantly in, like, an echo chamber of, like, the same ideas, you're going to think that everyone thinks the same way that you do. And that just, like, isn't how the world works, and that's not how it should work. I think that's, like, what makes us, like, really, like, unique as humans is our ability to, like, critically think and be different from one another. But, like, still, at the end of the day, like, you know, try to come together for, like, the greater good. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. But, yeah, just, like, don't force your fucking kids to be, you know, the person that you want them to be. Let them become the person that they want to be. And I feel like, I don't know, your kid's gonna be fucking way cooler. Yeah. Like, you know, your stereotypical, like, yeah, so we go to church on Sundays. We go to fucking Whole Foods. Like, that's fucking boring, dude. You know? Dude, get a tattoo. Yeah, dude. Do a drug. I have, like, a whole bunch. Do drugs, kids. I'm just kidding. That was a joke. Guys, don't cancel me out. No, do drugs. I mean, just do the legal ones. Yeah, just do the legal ones. If it's legal in your state, go for it. Yeah, just drink a little bit, you know, of course, if you're 21. Yeah, if you're 21. Yeah, live life. I don't know. Live, laugh, love. Like, kids be kids. Like, kids be kids, because, like, I don't know, the more you fucking try to control who they are, like, the more they rebel. Listen, listen. How many instances of, like, that, like, super quiet kid in your high school? You know what I mean? Like, how many times has that happened? And then, like, he goes to college, or she goes to college, and then becomes, like, an absolute fucking, like, edgelord. You know what I mean? Just, like, off the walls, like, super, super into drugs and, like, alcohol. I don't know. Like, that shit happens. Yeah. Um, I think, like, okay, like, parents, there's already one of you. Like, why make another one? You know what I'm saying? Like, why try to make an exact copy of you when there's already one of you in the world? Like, just let them be their own human. They're just another human, and all humans should be unique. I agree. Unless you're, like, identical twins. Yeah. Then that, you know, that's physical appearance. You didn't really have a fucking choice. Yeah, you didn't have a choice, but, like, you can have your own personality. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's a good place to end it. We kind of went over, like, a bunch of, like, different topics. A lot of, like, blanket topics, or, like, little subtopics of it. But I think that we got our point across. Yeah. Yeah. Don't take the rights away from people, bro. Yeah. Totally. Let's do a little TLDR. TLDR, if you're a Christian, that's cool, but, like, also don't take away my rights, or anybody else's rights, because that's crazy, and we have freedom of religion, and, you know, I'm not a Christian, so I shouldn't abide by your rules. Okay, that was the TLDR, guys. Be sure to check out the previous episode. I mean, if you listen to them backwards, like, I mean, I guess I can't really, like, do anything about it, but, like... You're just fucking quirky, dude. Yeah, you're just crazy. But, yeah, go ahead and listen to the first part. Listen to the pilot episode. Listen to the last three episodes, dude. Like, just check us out and let us know what you like. You can DM me, RizPlaysThings, on Instagram. It's my Twitch and podcast Instagram, if you have any questions or comments. Or, like, topics that you want us to talk about. Yeah, like, topics and stuff. So, we'll see you guys next time, and thank you, Eric, for talking for, like, two hours about this. Of course, it was a pleasure. I can always talk about my love for religion, you know. Oh, me too. Me too, dude. Yeah. All right, bye, guys. All right, see ya.

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