Ep. 2 Religious Trauma & Percy Jackson (Round 2)

The speakers discuss their Thanksgiving experiences. One person stayed on campus and had a Thanksgiving dinner with friends. They also received free merchandise. Another person went to a friend's adoptive family's Thanksgiving dinner and played a game of Sorry with missionaries. They also describe their religious background and attending church in the past. Hey y'all. Hey y'all. Welcome back to the pod. This is Mia. Or, oh shit, shit, shit. This is Alpha Mia. This is Alpha Ali. And we're alphas. Welcome back to alphas, guys. It's been a while. It's been a fat second. Um, not gonna lie to you dudes, just to update you omegas, um, we did- I'm beta. Oh, yeah, well. Okay. Our fellow alphas and omegas. Um, well, no. Omegas are obviously gonna listen to this. Like, we've got a couple omegas that we know are gonna listen to this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, David, yeah. Oh. Well, if they didn't know, they know now. If they didn't- Shit, you know now. Well, okay. Yeah. People- For people who are watching this, we recorded this- Our school had a Thanksgiving break about, like, a week long. We were scheduled to record this episode before Thanksgiving. Oh, that is crazy. Um, but, you know, things happen. Um, and, yeah, um, oh, mm. And we usually record it on Saturdays, but today's Sunday, so we're cheating a little bit. My bad. We're- we're- we're back. We're- we're late, and we're back. I was literally gonna say, you bitches are probably gonna get, like, one more episode, and then that's it. Like- It's the end of the semester. Yeah, and then- Oh, I thought you were gonna say end of podcast. End- end of podcast. No, no, no, no. We'll- we'll get back to it after break. Seasons. Oh my god, yeah. We gotta- we gotta brainstorm that later. Anyway, back to our- but, yeah. Um, our bad for, uh, recording so late and releasing so late, but what's- what's up, guys? How's- how was your Thanksgiving? Well, um, if you don't know, I- I'm from California, as I said in the last episode, so I- being all the way north New York, I was like, I'm not- I'm not about to spend a thousand dollars just going back home. Yeah. So, um, cause I don't got that- I don't get that coin. So I stayed on campus, Elise did not. She went back home. Fuckin' bitch. Anyways, um, oh! Who's that? But yeah, I- I stayed on campus and I, um, for the most part, it was pretty fun. Um, I went, like, on actual Thanksgiving dinner. No, no, no, I should say the Monday before Thanksgiving, OP had, like, a cute little Thanksgiving dinner. We had Indian food. Oh my god. Was it Menar? Yeah, it was Menar. I've never had such good food in my entire- like, I- I kid you not, me, Joby, and Jelena- oh, me, Joby, and Lena were sitting on the couch, like- like, we had- our stomachs were so full. We had, like, I think we all pretty much had, like, two servings of it. Brenda bought- brought, um, cinnamon rolls. We had cinnamon rolls. Ooh, we were- ooh! And then we got leftovers. Just like, ah, yes! And then, ah, and then after, we got, like, free merch. It was- it was so slay, but, um. Purr. Purr. And then Thanksgiving, I went with my friend Lil and Jelena to Lil's adoptive family- foster family? Church family? I don't really know. Um, cause they were having Thanksgiving dinner, and, you know. Our family's weren't here, so we had to go somewhere. I was not about to be holed up in my room on Thanksgiving day. Oh! Oh! Oh! The commons hated pom? Yeah! Is that a lie? I- live or die, I hate commons. Like, let's be for real. Okay, I don't hate commons. It's just, commons really disappointed me during the break, cause I- it's really just trademarked by this time, where we had fish at commons. I kid you not, it's like, they had a dog eat a piece of fish and then throw it up on a plate, and they gave it to you. Somehow he didn't chew it, somehow his stomach digested it a little bit, and then he hawked it up with some- some phlegm and fuckin' acid. Spicy. I wish it was, so then I could, like, get rid of the mushy- anyways, the fish was fuckin' bad, like, I may be a little dramatic, but like, that was just horrific, and then- but the same day, my- my Chinese teacher took me out, um, to a restaurant, and I got, like, actual, good, authentic Chinese food, and I was like, I'm so happy right now- yeah, it made up for it. Um, but yeah, we went to Lil's family, and they're Dominican- or they're from the Dominican Republic, so they made some- like, they made, like, traditional American, like, food, and then they also made Dominican food. Ooh! Ooh! That must've- that must've been good. It- it- it was, like, they made, um, I really don't know what the name was, but it was, like, empanadas. Like, they made pretty much like empanadas, with, like, chicken, cheese. Are they tortellitas? Yeah. I bet those are the same thing, are they not? They're pretty much- the- the only reason I can remember them as empanadas is because that's what I was raised with, and I don't- I didn't remember the name, but, um, oh my god, that shit was so good, they made a casserole, ooh! And then- Oh my god! Ow! It was the first- sorry, I like yelling. Um, it was the first time I met a real-life missionary. You know what a missionary is? Like a nun? Uh, well, no, but yeah. Okay, missionaries are, like, Mormons that go out on missions to- to spread the word of, um, somebody. Like in the Book of Mormon, okay. Yeah. Spread the word of somebody. I don't- I don't know anything about Mormons, um, but Lil's Mormon, and so she- her- that family's Mormon, and then they had missionaries there, and it made me realize I've never met a missionary before, and I was like, wow. That's crazy. And I- I played a game of Sorry with them, or two of them, there was two of them. And I'm not gonna lie to you, Jelena, like, sitting next to me, she was like- the- the mom was trying to get me, Lil, the two guys, and Jelena to play, and she was like, come on, Jelena, play it, play it, and she's- Jelena's like, nah, nah, so she- Sorry only allows, like, four players, so there was the mom, Lil, me, and then, like, one of the missionaries, they were, like, a little team, though. We would play it, and so she's like, okay, cool. And Jelena, like, one of the missionaries, dude, he was like- I don't know how to say this. Like, just- no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no! No, I did not want to get with this guy. No. He was like- he was the reason Jelena didn't want to play, because he was like- Yeah, he was a tryhard, and he, like, knew all the rules, he was very tactical about it, and I was like, dude, this is a game of sorry on a Thanksgiving day. Like, it's never that serious. And he just, like, gave off that kind of, like, just that vibe, and Jelena was, like, not having it. And so it ended up being me. And you know what's crazy? Is he would be like- once he learned my name, he'd be like, whoa, that's crazy, Mia. Oh my god, Mia, you're gonna- you're worried- and I was like, stop talking to me. Like, I don't fuck with you. I don't know, he just seemed weird. His friends seemed pretty chill. His friends seemed pretty cool. Were they like adults? Yeah, they were like- maybe like a couple years older than us. Okay. Maybe our age. But they were, like, on active missions, I think. And one of them was from Hawaii, and one of them was from Ohio. I don't fucking know. Yeah, I was like, slay. Yeah, it was pretty weird. I don't know. I kind of enjoyed the game, though, because then the mom was kind of, like, warming up to me. I don't know. And she seemed very, like- sweet? She was very, very sweet. But she was like, you know, when you meet, like, an adult, you know that kind of vibe where you want to, like- Impress them? Impress them, make them think that you're a good person, that, like, they'd want you to hang out with their kids kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. So, like, I was trying to, like, butter myself up to her, and I was like, I'll do anything you say. And, like, it was- Can I come back next week? I was like- because when we got there, one of the first questions she asked was, y'all go to church? And we said, oh, no. You know, I'm born and raised. No, because I asked Lil that. I was like, what if I go and I tell her that I'm Mormon? She's like, oh, then she'd probably ask you why you're not coming to church with me. And I was like, oh. Probably, yeah. Are you religious, Mia? I don't think- I don't remember this piece of information if you're religious or not. No, I was raised a little religious. My- okay. The way I describe it, kind of, is my grandma was born very religious. She was born in the Lutheran church. And so she- Lutheran is just a little bit more stricter than just, like, just general Christianity or being just a Christian. So she used to work at the church, volunteer at the church, do a lot of volunteering, I guess. I don't know. But she was raised pretty religious. And- but once she started working, I think she just stopped going to church most of the time. And plus she had kids, so, you know. My mom wasn't really raised religious. It's just kind of that weird thing where everybody calls themselves Christians, but they don't actively read the Bible and they don't actively go to Sunday- or go to church on every Sunday. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, like, the- how I was kind of raised was we go to church for special events for special things. And then in middle school, my best friend at the time got me to go to church with her. And we don't talk about her. Oh, we could! I love that, actually. It's a bit of a trauma. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just weird because I still talk to her. No, the furry one. Okay. I- a lot of my friends I've known quite literally since I was five. So, if I talk about a person, just know that I've probably known them my whole lives. Or my whole life. Lives. Yeah. And she's one of them. She is kind of a painful discussion. And not in a sense of, like, oh, I'm, like, actively uncomfortable talking about it, you know, with other people. But it's, like, it's because it's still ongoing. But it's, like, I've just never been able to, like, kind of- Process? Yeah. I'll talk about it in a second. But, yeah, she got me to go to church. And I really fucked with it. Like, it was a pretty, like, modernized church. Like, they were very much- it wasn't a traditional church. Like, it was a church meant for- Young generations? Yeah, like, the youth. And because- the reason was because it was a fucking middle school and high school combination. So, and I'll just say its name. It was called Foothills. So, like, it's Foothills High School. And it was pretty near to my high school. I didn't go there, but it was a high school. And so she- we didn't go to that high school, but we'd go there every Friday for church or youth group, essentially. I went there pretty much my whole middle school education. And, like, I really fucked with it because we would do, like, the basic, like, church session, like, little prayer session. And then we'd do something really fun. Or, like, go somewhere really fun. And I went to, like, winter camp with them. And even though it was, like, you know, Jesus, we love you, Jesus. I was like, I really fucking love these challenges. Like, it was- Okay, to talk about the good things about being- going to church and, like, youth group. We, for winter camp, one of the challenges, because, like, you were all separated into teams. I kid you not, there was probably, like, 500, 600 kids that went. Like, there was hella kids. Oh, I know what you mean. Well, no, no, no. 506, which is crazy. Probably 400 at max. All right. Just, there was a lot of kids. Okay. So, we all got split- I think I'm exaggerating. Hold on. That is a big exaggeration. It could be accurate, because I know- 300. Yeah. We'll go safe and say 300. Yeah, yeah. 300 seems reasonable. But there was, like, hella kids. And so, we all got divided into, like, kingdoms, or, like, teams. Okay, yeah, yeah. And I- the group that I was in, one day, one of our challenges was, like, this basketball game, whatever, whatever. I'm not going to explain the rules, because I don't even fucking remember. Yeah. But one of the challenges was, like, you have to eat a whole jar of this spicy radish mayo, a can of sardines, crackers, fucking- I don't know what else. Gross shit. Maybe mustard. I ate a whole jar of mayo, and a whole can of sardines, and- oh, Vienna sausages. I had- yeah. Oh, those are good, though. Wait, are we talking about the same thing? No. Because I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's, like, a little sausage like this, and it's, like, the can is blue or red. Yeah. Yeah. Raw? Without any flavor? Yeah. I could do those. Alright, guys, so this is the end of the podcast. What the fuck is wrong with you? Elise! Wait, are we talking about- wait, wait, wait. Vienna sausages. The little mini- they- no, we're talking about the same one. You think those are good? Wait, let me search this up. Y'all. Let me read my little comments. So, the fact that Elise thinks that these are good- Vienna sausages. Fucking borderline. She needs to go to jail. For a long, long time. This shit right here. Yes! Right? Yes! That can right there. That can right there. Yeah. Like, my mom will cook them, yeah. Cook? But I'm talking raw out of the can, dude. Oh, I've never eaten them raw. Don't fucking eat them raw, because what the- no, I- dude, I get what you mean. When you cook up the Vienna sausages with, like, a barbecue sauce and you grill them, oh, they're so good. Yeah. Raw, though? Oh, I've never had them raw. No, no, no. The juices and everything? Oh, kill me now. It was crazy. Anyways, I thought that was hella fun because I got, like, a- I felt- let me describe it. I felt alpha. Because you wanna know who, like- it was like a penalty, essentially. A penalty challenge for the actual, like, game. Everybody- every guy on my team was standing there like a wuss puss. They're all, like, 8th grade, 13 year old boys. The 11 year old girl stepped up, ate the whole jar of mayo, ate that can of sausages, shoved that shit down my throat. I got hosed off at the end of the- at the end of the game. I was so into it, I was so into it. That sounds like fun. I would've survived the spicy mayo, but everything else- It was- it was- I don't even- it was so- I felt so alpha in that moment. Just to tie it all back to, you know, what makes us alphas. So that was, like, the fun part of winter camp, and of church in general. But, like, ooh, when it got to the gay stuff, uh, you know, that's when I had to, like, cut ties. Oh, was it, like, homophobic? Like, no we can't! Gay is not okay! Yeah, so- so the- the thing was, is, like, it was a little cultish. And- not- okay, when I say cultish, I don't mean in, like, a- they had me sacrifice my blood and I had to- I had to become the preacher's fuckin' peasant or something. No, like, everybody there was, like, chill. They just had a false interpretation of the Bible and its scriptures, and one of- Don't say false alpha, because that might rub people the wrong way. Just say closed interpretation, I would say. Do we know any religious people? Well, no, no, no, I'm saying specifically these people. Oh, okay. Like, not Christians in general. Oh, okay, okay. Because, like, the reason I say- the reason I say false is- I'm about to explain. Like, the homophobic part of it was not even necessarily, like, that usual scripture of, like, a man shall not lie down with, um- Another man. Another man. Can I commit sodomy? Sodomy, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that, I'm pretty sure, is translated to be do not- men should not sleep with boys. So, like, pedophilia, you know? Yeah. Don't do that. But people take it as the- Yeah. No man, boy. Yeah. So I can see, to some extent, how, like, Christians can use that to justify homophobia. I can- I- because it's a- the translation, it's just kind of lost in translation. Still don't respect it, but, um, the excuse that I was told for being gay and being the fact that gay is wrong was, um, if it's not in the Bible, if God doesn't tell you to do it, then you shouldn't do it. Have you watched that video I sent in our, uh, Dream Haters group chat about the guy who, like, publicly was gay, and then he said, I went to church and I stopped being gay? I've seen a lot of those clips, you're gonna have to be specific. I fucking- I found it, like, a while ago, and I found it again on TikTok, and I sent it to our, like, Dream Haters group chat, because I was like, this is, like, so funny. Because when I first watched it, I was like, how are you gay? How are you not gay anymore? Like, I just didn't understand. They're lying to you. It was, like, the- That shit is still deep within their soul. Um, wait, let me think about this. This is, like, way down. Dancer, no longer- Okay, well, I'm not gonna find another pod, but- I probably watched it, it's probably somewhere in the deeper sessions of my mind. It's probably in the- it's in the Dream Haters, because I sent it to you guys, and I was like, oh, that's so funny, I can't wait for that. And for me- No, you're gonna want it. Oh, shit. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure I've seen it, because I've seen, like, the videos of the preachers going, I'm not gay anymore! Type shit, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, because I literally- And it wasn't, like, even in a discussion. Like, during our sessions, they would talk about homo- I was about to say homophobia. Homosexuality. And, like, they would just kind of, like, breeze over the topic. But one day I was like- I asked my youth leader, I was like, straight up, why is it bad to be gay? And, like, what do you do if you are gay? Because little me at the time was a- Struggling! Struggling at the time. It was- The way I kind of say it was cultish is that it literally reshaped my brain in a way that I've- I will probably never change it back to how I- Like, I'll never be the same type of person. Type shit. So, like, and not necessarily even in a bad way, like, one of the biggest lessons I got out of going to church was gossip, and the fact that, like, gossiping can be the worst, most, like, disgusting thing that humans can do, essentially. And so that made me a lot more aware of just watching what I say and, you know, who I'm talking about, which I appreciate, but one of them was this whole guilt for having- for being gay or having certain thoughts. And so my youth leader was like, Like, well, hate the sin, love the sinner, type shit. But she was like, if God doesn't explicitly say in the Bible that a man and a woman can lie- or a man and a man and a woman and a woman can lie with each other, if God doesn't say that you can do it, then you don't do it. But they never say women can't sleep with women, do they? I don't think so. I don't know. I haven't read the full Bible. So, no gay, but all lesbians? Hey. Okay, guys. Okay, bro. Sorry, guys. Yeah. What the fuck was that? We stand with- We stand with the LGBTQ community. Yes, thank you. A second, like, we're not gay. Fuck. Actually, I don't know. We'll talk about it in a second. But, um... Oh, shit, my bad. Just, at the time, my 12-year-old brain was like, how- that doesn't- that's not logical. Because if you- the Bible would have to be, like, huge to amount for everything that humanity has done just in general. Like, if you think about the specific things, like, that's- that's kind of- oh, okay. Continue, please. You're going to get sick. You're going to get even sicker. You're going to get even sicker. She just licked the mic. I didn't. I didn't! She's a liar. A liar and a sinner. I love saying that. A liar and a sinner. I accidentally touched it. You wouldn't have had my reaction! That's why she's always sick, because she's licking stuff. She's got a shit immune system. Anyways, um, it just- it wasn't logical to me. Can you- Anyways, guys, it's going to be the end of this episode. She won't let me speak my truth! My religious trauma! Goddammit. Okay, yeah, but, um... That's a David face! Sorry, sorry, sorry. Um, it didn't make any sense. I told my mom. Oh, yeah, the other reason why it was cultish is they made me sign a contract saying I would never have sex until I was married. And they made me take it home and, like, hang it up on my wall. Oh. Oh. So... What now? Oh! In a sense that... Sorry, I'm channeling my inner angel. No, yeah, they- and, um, I- Oh, my God! Oh! They made me- Oh, God, yeah. So, I would tell, like, my sister and my mom about all this stuff. And my mom was like, I don't need to be taking you there every Friday. You know that? Like, you don't need to be- Because my mom was very much, like, not- She was, like, borderline atheist, borderline, um... There's another- there's another term of religious status where it's you don't really believe in God or you're not actively religious, but you think that there is a higher being. I- I know what you're talking- Should you not? There was a podcast- There's a podcast that I listen to called- So... Okay, so even before we get into that, they talked about this one episode in that podcast about that term. Mm-hmm. And I cannot remember what it's called. I'll- I'll- I'll search it up. But... So... That episode- Actually, the whole reason why I was so happy that you've mentioned a podcast is because that creator, those creators, they're called SuperMega. Mm-hmm. They have a podcast. They're us! We're them! And like, they're like- They're literally like us. And I think about that. I'm like, wow. Okay. Literally. I was- I was in SuperMega. Like, it just- it just makes me happy. Like, it's like a full circle sort of thing. Yeah. But, um, in that episode, like, they had, like, a featured guest. And I guess that guest could correlate to, like, uh, I guess- I guess, like, David in the future. Since, like, he's- he's been pretty adamant, like, uh, apparent about- Yeah, he wants to be on here so bad, it's funny. It's so cute. He's like, Why are you so mean? So, can- So, what do you think about me, um- I don't care. Potentially, um, being on the- I'm the alpha, guys. Um, can I- can I be on the podcast? Please! And then we stomp on him. Fuckin' Omega. Omega hate- Stop the Omega hate now. Stop? You were just- You love hatin' on that Omega. I hate- I don't hate the Omega. Oh! I hate the man. Stop Omega hate now! I- I- It's because she's got a new Omega. Oh! Wait, no, no, no. Let me say, let me say. Okay. Wait, hold on. Before you explain, the term is agnostic. So, my mom is ag- I'm pretty sure. Agnostic, and I'm agnostic. Okay, continue. Purr, purr, purr, purr. We high-fived. Just like, just like you know who is the- I, but for all intentions and purposes, I'm- I'm shamed by this Catholic kid. Ah! Oh my God! Sorry, guys. I needed to get that scream out. Um, we- It's a certain somebody. Anyways. Okay, we're going back to the- We're going to the first question. But- Okay. Okay, okay. To explain what I texted you earlier. Uh-huh. Just some context. I had texted Mia about someone calling them my Omega. But- Which is crazy! I said your Omega. I didn't give you the full context. The reason why I was asking if you had that specific person's number is- Did I- Have I ever sent you the text about- I'm broke right now, so if we ever- I- Did I ever send you that text between me and that person about- No. Okay. Pause. Pause the pause. Pause the pause. Pause the pause. Oh, shit, guys. We'll be back. We gotta take a break. Is it continuing? Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Sorry, guys. We're back. We're back. We had to take a quick break. Um, it was like a half an hour break. But, anyways. Um, Annie has joined us. 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