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This week we talk about NFL, MLB, NBA, NCAAF, PBR and local hockey. We apologize to you listeners for our long absence. follow and comment on our socials and email.
The hosts apologize for their delayed episode and discuss their go-to shots at a bar. They then move on to talk about hockey, specifically the NA3 and ACHA hockey leagues. They mention the standings and upcoming showcase games. They briefly mention MLB and Shohei Otani's $700 million deal with the Dodgers. One of the hosts expresses their skepticism about players who excel in multiple positions. Welcome back, everybody, to the Broken Clipboard with Nolan and Ashby. We apologize for the long-awaited 10th episode. We both got really busy. That's how life works a little bit. But we're going to talk about some football, talk about some basketball, talk about some hockey, talk about some PBR. And I'm going to bring up my Nolan's question of the day right away, and it's not going to be sports-related because I want to get Ashby's take on this. I just got asked by someone I know. Ashby, when you're at a bar, what's your go-to shot if you have to take a shot? If I have to take a shot, call me old school, but I'm definitely a whiskey kind of guy. I like Pendleton. Proper 12 isn't a bad one. Jack, wild turkey. But a traditional good whiskey kind of guy. Yeah. Honestly, like I'm not a big, you know, exotic shot guy. I was at a Christmas party about a week ago, and after having a few too many drinks by myself, I was asked, hey, let's do a lemon drop shot. You will never, ever catch me doing a lemon drop shot again. That bitch made my tongue numb and tingling. I'm like, no, this ain't me. This ain't me anymore. I ain't doing lemon drop shots anymore. I hate vodka. You will not catch me doing vodka shots ever again. That was a one-time thing. I'm a big Pendleton guy, though. Thank you. For all of our listeners out there, you've probably heard this guy that I'm about to mention a story about on previous podcasts. But if I want to get the night going right when I'm out at the bars with him, we take Pendleton shots. I force him to drink it, which is probably really bad of me. Don't peer pressure. But we do Pendleton shots, and shit. By the end of the night, we got some stories. We got some stories. Like this man doing splits in the middle of downtown Billings, in the middle of the road. Man, what a time to be alive. I mean, realistically, you can't forget about French toast and never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Well, speaking of French toast and never mind, let's go to some hockey. Yeah, so we're heading into kind of the Christmas break slash the showcase time of year for NA3 and ACHA hockey. MSU for ACHA hockey, they are 22-2-0 currently. Unfortunately, lost to the Grizz in Missoula last week. But we also beat them. We went 1-1 on this weekend's series. The Cats did end up, they were 11-0, and then they had their first loss of the season, and then won another 11, and then had their second loss. But number one in the Midwest currently in the standings, which is good. And goaltending, they're on fire between Jorgen Johnson and Nikolai. The team all around moving really well, and they are leaps and bounds ahead of where they were last year, in my opinion. In the NA3, we're about 26 games in, depending on which teams. We have for our standings, Gillette at 1, Helena at 2, Great Falls 3, Bozeman 4, Badlands 5, Sheridan 6, Butte 7, and Yellowstone 8. Like I said, it's about showcase time. I think there's two weeks before they head over to, I believe it's Minnesota again this year. And they'll match up against some of the teams in other divisions to try and see where they place now versus how they'll place hopefully come postseason time. I think that's pretty much all I have for hockey this week. Well, the only thing you're going to get out of me about hockey is, the only thing I know about hockey is I drink way too much alcohol at hockey games. With that being said, what do you want to roll onto next, Ashby? Do you want to hit some PBR? Do you want to get into some NFL? I don't know. Whatever works. I think we talk about the big MLB deal that just hit, and let's talk about a little Shohei Otani. So he had agreed to a deal with the Dodgers for $700 million over the next 10 years. And then today, he's getting $2 million per year until his contract is up. And then, at the end of it all, he's getting $180 million after his deal. He's getting $680 million. $680 million, yeah, my bad. If you think about it, 10-year contract, $2 million a year, another $700 million there, $680 million to make the $700 million. It's fucking crazy. I'm not going to lie. $700 million is just a mind-boggling number. And the fact that he's like, yeah, I'll just take $2 million a year, and then we'll just pay me $680 at the end of the 10-year contract. Shit, if I'm the fucking Dodgers, I'm like, okay, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching. I could just keep putting dudes around Shohei. I'm going on record right now and saying Dodgers win the fucking World Series next season. But Shohei is making like $22 a second. Well, if you think about it, I saw this thing. I forget what it is on Twitter. But there's just an account that breaks down the income per player and then gives it all the taxes and stuff that's taken out of it. Before the $2 million thing dropped today, it was talking about if he made actually $70 million per year, what his take-home pay would be per year on that. It was crazy. I think it's insane looking at state-by-state taxes, what gets taken out of contracts of professional athletes. I think it was $37 million that he pays in taxes per year, if it would have stayed at $70 million a year. So I would assume that there was probably a good chunk of – yeah, it's a lot of money to lose the taxes, but fuck. It was just mind-blowing. I was like, that is insane. I mean, granted, that's just because what state he's playing in. I mean, honestly, he's probably used to it because he played for the Angels last year. The same taxes that he's going to incur this year, too. I just thought it was crazy. It's also kind of funny, we haven't mentioned it yet, but how he goes from one part of LA to the other part of LA. They probably didn't want to sell off his condo or his house or whatever. I mean, realistically, are you going to shy away from a $700 million deal to stay in California for 10 years? Honestly, if you're going to ask me that straight up, I don't want to be in California. I mean, for $700 million a year, I might fucking consider it. For $700 million? After 10 years, yeah. I might consider it. For $70 million a year, I'd do it. That's purely probably money, but whatever. There's one of other places I would rather be than California, but $700 million, it's a big fucking plus. The other question is, what were the other offers that he received? If you think about it, I don't know if you've seen any, but I haven't seen any offers that have been like, oh yeah, he got offered this much by this team. What was the market for him? Other than what the Dodgers are. The Dodgers say, fuck it, we're going to give him $700 million, everybody else is paying the same thing. Yeah, we'll give you $500 million. So what I was getting from that whole thing was like, there was an article that came up when Shohei started talking around, and he was like, he tried to sign a non-disclosure agreement with all of these teams. And he was open and said, if any of these teams put out how much he was asking for, or the length of a contract, then he would cut ties with that team immediately. And I think he's such a high talent that nobody wanted to risk that. So there are no rumors of anybody wanting to go out and say, oh, we're trying to sign him for $150 million for three years or whatever. Everybody kind of held their cards close to their chest, and they were like, we don't want to say anything because we don't want to lose the opportunity to have Shohei. I know that in a previous episode, and I annoyed the absolute piss out of you on that episode, when we were talking about payroll in MLB, and how the athletics and twins have to build, they can't just go and win the payroll battle like the fucking Mets or the Yankees or the Dodgers can go do. And honestly, I feel like if Shohei was going for money, he wasn't going to end up at some random ass team. He was going to show up at one of those big market teams. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. The Dodgers and the Yankees and the Mets, they all are historically big spenders in free agency. I think he's going to be batting only. He's not going to pitch. Because they want him to be 100% recovered and back to where he was and give him the whole year, which I totally get it. I mean, they're going to have him for nine years afterwards. But they're also going back over to Japan and trying to negotiate with one of the number one pitchers in Japan's league and Yamamoto. I don't know if you heard about him, but he's been a guy that a lot of people have been talking about for the last few years. And ultimately, if they can go get him, that also just makes not only Yamamoto more comfortable when he comes in, but that makes Shohei a little bit more comfortable. And then when you start getting guys building that relationship, and then, I mean, you've seen it. Team chemistry absolutely means everything on top of being able to use your talent and keep building. But chemistry is definitely one of the key ingredients to having a good team. I know that you and me are somewhat on different sides of this a little bit, and I'm going to bring it up. But I think, from my perspective in all sports, not just baseball, not just in this individual case, I think that I don't really buy into the dual position kind of player. I feel like it detracts a little bit from the greatness of the player. I mean, it's cool that they can go and do that shit, but I don't know. I feel like there's guys that are like, you know, he's a great pitcher, and then he goes and tries and does bad things. He's an all-right batter, but I'm not referring to Shohei in that scenario. But I feel like if you're trying to work on everything, you're not getting entirely that much better, because you're not elite in one thing. You're good in a lot of things, but you're not elite in one thing. I don't know. I would say that's just for general, in all sports. I don't think that just applies to Shohei. I think Shohei would be better if he's just playing one thing, if he's pitching or if he's hitting. Just because, I mean, we're talking just more reps, more bats, more pitches, more wear and tear on the body, which I think, not from a safety standpoint, but from a player health standpoint, it just breaks you down over time. There was all the talk about Travis Hunter playing both ways for Colorado, and then he got hurt. Well, I mean, it didn't surprise me that he got hurt, because he's playing both ways in a game that's physically demanding, and you're going to get wore down. Yeah, especially, I mean, this is probably a little bit more of a hot take, but especially in Colorado, that elevation, you see players that, when they come in and they're not used to the elevation, it takes them a while to build up, and he got hurt early on in the season. Yeah, I think it was game four or five, he got hurt. And if I remember correctly, it was also at home that he got hurt. Yeah, I don't remember when he got hurt, but I just remember that, I mean, more using him as an example, I'm not saying that like, because I mean, it was early on, it wasn't like he played eight games worth of it, but I don't know, just in general, I think that it's a big thing where it's like, it's more reps. At some point, we all have an internal clock a little bit, where once it hits midnight, you hit your peak, your internal clock starts on the decline, and if you're doing double the reps in a season, it speeds up that clock. So, I was just looking at this while you were talking about it, because I was curious. The Dodgers officially have two players now on their roster, that with their combined salary is $1.06 billion, that's billion with a B. You know how many organizations across sports in general that are like around that mark for total money per salary cap? Well, salary cap wise, it's just baseball. I understand baseball doesn't have a salary cap, but I'm talking $1.06 billion between two singular players. It's just more than most franchises are actually worth, if you think of it that way. I think the Cowboys are like $6.77 billion. That's what they're worth? I mean, that's crazy. I mean, that's crazy in itself, that they're $7 billion, but then you start thinking, there's a lot of teams that are under, that are $1 billion or $2 billion, and the Dodgers have almost two players on a mass to the same amount of worth that that team does. And just so all of the listeners know, that second player that I'm talking about is Mookie Betts at $365 million contract with the Dodgers. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, I think that we will move on. I don't know what Ashley wants to move on to next. I'd be down with whatever. I don't want to save the football talks for the end. I feel like that's going to have quite a bit to try to bounce off each other. So let's go to the NBA's in-season tournament. I don't want to talk about results or anything. I mean, we probably should probably say who won it. I mean, the Lakers won it. I mean, good for the Lakers for doing that. We probably should say who won it, since it was the first one that's ever been played. But yeah, do you want to talk just what your overall thoughts are about it? So I guess there's a couple of things. One, I did see Adam Silverman say that hopefully next year, the whole idea of the colored court designs and everything, they're kind of hoping that maybe somebody might integrate that. You might see kind of like what Oregon does with their court, as their regular home court. Or, you know, if you play 2K, the Nike or Jordan courts, like that would be kind of cool. Yeah, you're my court when that used to be a big thing. Jordan's on my team, he can still do that. Yeah, so he was like, maybe that idea will come into play, because what the in-season tournament brought us was a lot of cool designs. And I agree, that was cool to see. But overall, the reason I think it's a good idea, But overall, the reason I bring this up is, personally, I'm not a fan of the in-season tournament. I mean, it's kind of hard, maybe it's because I'm not trying to see the big picture of what the NBA is trying to do. But now you're adding, I don't even know if you're necessarily adding games, but you're playing games that you're being put into a pool that are counting towards this in-season tournament, but not towards your overall record. And it, I don't know, it's kind of a weird thing. And then you're also saying, oh, well, in the middle of the season, we'll take the Lakers, for example. The Lakers are the best team. Well, their record doesn't show that they're actually the best team in the NBA currently. If anything, they're probably middle of the pack. Yeah, I have no idea where they're at right now. The in-season tournament, the way that it was, I was looking through, especially the Timberwolves, because I kind of follow the Timberwolves, they would play one game in-season tournament, two games non, two games in-season tournament, then one game not, and then one game in, and then three games not. There's like no rhyme or reason to it. They're just filling them in. Speaking of your Timberwolves, they're the number one seed in the fucking Western Conference right now. I know, they're on a tear, which I'm a-okay with that, realistically. But I don't know, the in-season tournament, overall, my big thing is I don't get it, and I don't think it's really worth it, but that's just my opinion. What do you think? Well, fuck. I don't like it. I really don't. I don't really like the court designs that they came up with. I'm not a big fan of the court designs they came up with. I'm also, I don't know, I think that like, I guess I don't know if they added games, kind of like what you were saying, but I feel like there's a little bit of like, I don't know, what's the word? Like, I feel like it's a little like unfair to like previous generations a little bit. Like, you know, your Jordans and your Wills, you know, your older generation guys that, you know, maybe only played in, what, 82 games like everybody else, and then, you know, you go play an in-season tournament, are they including those stats in like your final season stats or what, I don't know. But, I mean, I just don't, I don't know. I think that's, I think it's weird. I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'm super in favor of it. Literally, the only thing it really did was make for the possibility for, you know, games in December to actually matter, or games in November to actually matter. Like, how often have you said, or said, I'm going to sit down and watch an NBA game in November? Like, I'm watching football in November. They're trying to take away from the football audience because their main audience doesn't show up until after the Super Bowl, really. Well, I guess one thing that I did notice is a lot more of the big star players that around late October, November, beginning of December, that normally are like, they're sitting out because they're sore, everything like that. And a lot of the higher paying guys, I don't want to name names, but realistically, those guys are off of the bench and they're playing. Well, there's also another reason behind that one, too. And that other reason is that the NBA made it so that you have to play in 65 to, I want to say it was 67 games in the season to be up for all NBA awards, MVP awards. Like, they put a minimum game amounts played on awards and all that. So you guys are now having to play. What? I said, that's kind of nice. I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah. So, like, because John Morant got suspended for the first 25 games of this season, which takes him under the amount of games that you could play to get an all NBA, so he doesn't reach that incentive in his contract that makes him next year eligible for the Supermax. Well, and kind of to stray off of our original topic of the NCAA tournament, John Morant, I hope he pulls his head out of his butt and realizes that, hey, sometimes it's the crowd that you're with and sometimes it's stupid decisions that will cost you your Supermax deal or will cost you playing, cost you at an all NBA spot, anything like that. Or, you know what, better yet, you aren't above the law as a professional athlete. Like... I mean, I don't know. It's one of those things that... It's more of a... It's more one of those things is that, like, because in all reality, he didn't really break any laws technically in where he was doing this all at. It's more of one of those things is that you need to understand that your decisions have consequences and when you do the shit that you do, you better be... I'm gonna quote SpongeBob right now. If you can't do the crime, or if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. I mean, like, your decisions have consequences, like I said, and the NBA has a strict policy even though it's not the... maybe a state law or a federal law or whatever. I mean, the NBA has their own rules. And if you don't follow their rules, you're gonna get suspended. And, you know, everybody says that he's the next, you know, the face of the NBA. Like, he's gonna be the... Like, after LeBron leaves or Giannis leaves. Like, he's the next dude. Like... No parent that... Like, if I'm the NBA and I'm sitting here saying, oh, I'm trying to make money. How can I engage people more? No, you know, parent is gonna say, hey, look at John Moran. Like, I don't... He's a great role model for my child right now. Like, no parent's gonna say that. I had a joke that came into my head, but I'm like, it's so sick and twisted that I don't want to say it. Yeah, let's not say it. I don't want to get in trouble on the podcast. But... But you know what I'm saying? Like, just honestly, like, my hope for John Moran is he'll learn from these 25 games or however many games that he's suspended for and... And he comes back a better person and, you know, hopefully he just learned from what happened. Yeah. That's... I mean, that might even be a get better right there. Like, not even a part of the get better segment, but just a generalized get better. Yeah. Like, and it's not like one of those get betters, like, you guys fucking suck. Get better, like, this is like, hey, you're an electric player. Like, we want to watch you until, you know, for the next 15 years. We don't want to see you, you know, wake up one day and say, and the headline be, John Moran shot dead. Like, we're... Like, you're an electric player. Like, you're an electric player. We want you to be, you know, around for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we come from on it. We're not saying that it's... We want to protect the future of sports is what we're getting at. So... I mean, realistically, if you're... It doesn't matter what sport. If you're really good and you get that opportunity to play at the next level, absolutely you should be able to play at the next level. But you don't want to ruin your chances. And it comes back to what we talked about a couple months ago. Like, you got to be... Young guys and gals, you got to be smart. You got to make decisions that are going to help you in your career, not hinder you. Yeah. I mean, you should be using this moment of your life to be a businessman. You know, get involved in business opportunities. You know, make money off of yourself. Not... You know, don't hinder your abilities. Yeah. But kind of back to... We're going to kind of do a completely 180 turn. I'm going to go back to what I was thinking about the end-season tournament. I'm not entirely about it entirely. I think it's kind of weird. I think that I need to see at least one... If they're doing it for another year, I think I need to see one more year of it. But right now, I'm not entirely sold on it just because I don't watch enough basketball in November and December for it to really matter to me. Well, I think I agree with that. I'd like to see it... If they're doing it for another year, I'd like to see another game or two. But... The only thing is, like, I just don't want it to be as sporadic. Because the whole... Like, I get that it's an end-season tournament, so you have to move games around. Like, you have your pool games, your round robin or whatever, and you have to move that around so it doesn't conflict with your season schedule. But at the same time, it's like... You know... I don't want to just throw it all in. What is it you can't even get other than just a banner? Like, do they get, like, a guaranteed spot in the playoffs? Or what... Like, what's the even point of playing it other than, like, the 25 games... Or the... You know, the certain amount of game threshold you have to get to? I haven't even looked that far into it. I know they get a trophy and a banner, and... Yeah, I know that. At the end of the season, they get, like... Like, at the awards show and stuff, they get recognized and stuff, but... Yeah, I mean, like, I was thinking, like, is it, like, Pioneer League Baseball, where, like, if you win your first, like, the first half of the season, the first half of the season, you usually... I think there's, like, some sort of, like... You get some sort of, like, advantage or something. I don't know. I don't remember exactly, but... You know what I'm saying. Like, it feels a little weird that, like, I don't know what the... What they're playing for. And probably... I probably should have looked this up when we were preparing for this. But, I don't know. It just feels weird. So, I'm reading this currently. So, it says, it's $500,000 for each player on the winning team, $200,000 for each player of the runners-up, $100,000 to each player in the semifinal losers, and $50,000 each for quarterfinal losers. I mean, if it's just a money incentive thing, then, like... That really doesn't change my mind at all. Yeah. I mean, I guess... I don't know. I'm not entirely sold on it. I mean, I would like to see more, but I'm also not... We've had a conversation before where, like, we've talked about the NBA. We're not huge NBA fans anymore just because it... I don't know. It doesn't feel like the same old game like it did 10 years ago. Where it was... I don't know. I've kind of... Maybe I've aged out of it or, you know, watching it, I guess. But, like, I just don't watch a game. Unless it's, like, playoffs, but even then, like, I don't really watch games. I mean, I follow it. I mean, I barely follow it. I didn't know that the Lakers hadn't won the plane until today. But, like... So what I think was just looking at here, as of right now, there's no postseason berth or anything like that. And... A few of the players are like, well, we don't think it's postseason berth worthy, but doesn't mean that they don't... Like, if they're outside of the... What is it? Top 8 or 10 teams or whatever in their conference, then they should have kind of like the play-in option, but they get an automatic spot to try and play in versus that lowest seed type of deal. Which, I mean, that could be something. Don't get me started on the play-in. I think the play-in is stupid. Which I don't like it either. If you make the playoffs, you make the playoffs. You don't get a... I mean, this is totally going to contradict what I talk about here in a second when it comes to fucking college football. But, like, if you fucking have the resume to be in there... Like, okay. You just go off fucking record. Like, this is going to totally backfire on me here in like five minutes. But if you have the fucking record of a top 8 team in the NBA, because that's what it is, for the longest time it's been, if you make it, it's because you have one of the top 8 records. Like... And then you play like that. Like, I just... Maybe it's the day and age of participation trophies and shit like that. Like, oh, we got to let the number 10 team in. Fuck that. Like, the number 10 team, like, some years has fucking lost like 47 games. They're below 500. Like, I don't know. I want to see good basketball. I don't want to see a team that's won less than half their games. I agree. Like, I have personal stuff with that. Like, so when I was playing high school lacrosse, you know, my senior year... Okay, every year we were playing for third and fourth. Yeah, we were playing on Sunday. That's great. Like, don't get me wrong. When you're playing in a 12-team tournament, third and fourth place is amazing, right? But my senior year, we're playing the game to go to the finals. We're in the semifinals playing for an opportunity. We lost, and I'm on the sidelines, blood, sweat, and tears and everything put into my entire high school career. I'm out there. I'm crying. I'm pissed. And then my team's like, Hey, don't be sad. We get to play tomorrow. I'm like, I don't care about third and fourth place. Nobody's like, oh, I played for third place, and we lost, and, you know, that's okay. It's like, if you're not playing to win it all, and your records don't show that, I mean... Yeah, I mean, my big thing with sports, just in general, just, you know, honestly, it's not even sports. It's, you know, how I see the world and everything I do. Like, it could be lifting. It could be fucking walking in the airport. Like, I'm looking to my right like, dude, that dude walks faster than me. Fuck that. I'm going to walk faster than him. Like, I'm so competitive in just my daily, day-to-day life. Like, if you... Like, the great Ricky Bobby once said, if you ain't first, you're last. Like, that's how I take my life, how I live my life a little bit. Like, cool, we made it to whatever, the state championship for basketball. Well, we fucking lost. Wasn't good enough. We're second, we're the first loser. Like, championships mean something. And I just think, like, I think that this last year's NBA finals, because who won the finals this last year? Wasn't it the... Nuggets. Yeah, the Nuggets. Cool, the Nuggets made it, or won it, and I'm totally fine with the Nuggets winning it because they were the best team in the West. Yeah. But the team that they fucking played had to fucking sneak in under the skin of their fucking ball sack and, you know, made an improbable run. We preach, and now this is going to sound a little weird because I'm going to somewhat go back on what I just said. Like, there was a conversation, like, in a team, or in a position meeting that I was a part of, I don't know, like four or five weeks ago, and I was like, you know, conference championships are cool, but, like, the whole goal is to get into the playoffs because anything can happen in the playoffs. I think when you start adding teams that really don't deserve to be in the playoffs, it detracts away from the greatness of that playoffs. So, like, if you are good enough to be in the playoffs, you should be in the playoffs because once you get in the playoffs, anything can happen. But if you're below 500 teams and you don't deserve to be in the playoffs, like, and your body of work and your eye test make you not look like you should be in the playoffs, like, you shouldn't be in the playoffs because, you know, you play one game at a time and, you know, you start getting lucky, you know, you can win a fucking championship. I just think it's, anyone can get lucky. It's just, I think it's the stupidest thing, when you let teams in that aren't, you know, worthy of it, I guess. Which, obviously, is a great segue into the college football playoffs. Nolan, what do you think about the college football playoffs this year? So, I forget who said it on the SBN. It might have been Dan Orlowski, or maybe even Tim Tebow. I forget who the fuck said it. But, one of them said it. And I, you know, me and Ashby had a text battle back and forth about this. And then I saw this quote, and I was like, you know, that makes a lot of sense to me. It said, the committee got it right with the four best teams, the four teams that they put in there. The other side of this is, Florida State definitely, probably deserve to get consideration to be looked at for those four teams. Because they did what the committee asked, to go 13-0, to go undefeated. I just, the one thing the Florida State is, the eye test. I think that, well, okay, I'll run it back, I'll run it down here. So, like, Michigan, undefeated. They beat Ohio State, or the two weeks before this came out, in the last game of the regular season, they beat Ohio State, who was number two, and they were number three. Okay, that makes sense. They have that, and then Georgia loses to Alabama. So, they move up to one. Makes sense to me. Then, two is Washington. So, Washington was right behind Michigan. Michigan beat Ohio State, Georgia lost to Alabama, and then they beat Oregon. Oregon was five at the time. So, they move up to two. No issues there. Now, this is where it gets weird, because, like, the last two that made it were Texas and Alabama. Who were both beneath Florida State in the rankings at the time. What? Both of those teams were under Florida State at the time. So, Texas was six. Alabama was eight. So, the thing that I think is, so you look at it, you're like, okay, so Georgia lost. Like, they fell to six, or maybe it was five, in the final college playoff rankings. They fell to either five or six. I mean, in reality, they probably should have been like, okay, like Georgia probably falls to three. And I think, just off the fact that Texas beat Alabama and Alabama beat Georgia, that, like, okay, you can make that argument for Texas. I don't see any issue with Texas making it. The other thing, too, is if you were to put Georgia in there, I think I'd be fine with it. I would also be fine with it. I get why they put Alabama in there, because they beat the team that was number one all season. Now, the team that was number one all season should have probably stayed in the top four. And then it's, you know, Texas, Florida State, and Alabama, and then Ohio State, who everybody leaves out Ohio State in this scenario because, I mean, they also had one loss, too. And it was to Michigan, who was, you know, Michigan. But, like, yeah, record-wise, you're like, okay, Florida State. But then you start looking, you throw on the tape, and you're like, okay, well, Florida State beat a Louisville team in the conference championship 16-6, and Louisville lost to Kentucky. Kentucky's really bad at football, like really bad at football. And I love Kentucky. Like, I love the University of Kentucky. Like, that just doesn't look good enough. And, like, the last – and then they almost lost to a Florida team. You know, Florida isn't very good this year. Like, I just – you start looking at, like, the resumes. And, I mean, maybe Texas has played closer games, close enough games that you could maybe offset it. But, like, I don't know. I look at the eye tests of Texas. I'm like, Texas has some dudes. Like, they're good enough to be in the top four teams. Alabama is always good. Do they deserve to be in the playoff? Probably not because they were eight going into the fucking – before the final ranking, and they beat number one. How far does that bring you? Maybe two spots is Oregon loss. But, like, I don't know. In all reality, I think the end of this happens is – I think I have to acknowledge that Florida State did what the committee wanted them to do. And on the other side, they looked and said, well, we think these four teams passed the eye test more than the 13 and 0 that Florida State has, which, I don't know. Like, the eye test saying, like, okay, this team is blowing everybody out by 15 points rather than, you know, this team is squeaking by wins in the, you know, and is beating teams in the ACC, which this year isn't the strongest conference, which you look at it and you're looking like, okay, the number one team in the country is from the Big Ten. So there's one Power Five conference. The number two team is the champion from the Pac-12, another Power Five. Well, for now, when Washington State and Oregon State. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for now. Sorry to say. And then, you know, number three is the winner of the Big 12, and the fourth is the winner of the ACC. Like, with how it is set up, the playoff, like, yeah, you're probably not going to get all five Power Five champions in. And then it kind of just comes down to which conference, you know, the committee values more. I think, obviously, the committee showed that they did not value the ACC very high this year. And I don't know, maybe that's just, I don't know. I honestly couldn't name who was the next best team in the ACC, because I don't think that there was a very good team that was number two in there. But I don't know. It's one of those things that I also think that, like, if this wasn't this season, if it was two years, you know, two years removed from the – you know, if it was two years, you know, down the line and, you know, it's still a four-team playoff, maybe they'd get in. I think what happened was is the committee sat there and said, boy, we can't have a fucking team go lose 65-7 in a national televised game. I honestly think that that's the reason that Florida State made it, because I think they're going to get punked, and they're going to get punked in the fucking – they're playing Florida, Georgia in their bowl game. They're going to get punked. They should – you said it earlier. I don't know if you said it on the podcast about where it was just when you and me were talking, but they talked about boycotting it. They should boycott it because they're going to get punked, and then everybody's going to be like, well, that is why they didn't make the college football playoffs. So I guess my whole thing with it is, well, I think four teams is a little ridiculous. Kind of with what you were saying is you miss out on potentially – well, you have your power five champions, which one of them has always missed out. And then potentially, you know, I don't know how Georgia drops from one to five. Yeah, I don't know. Or anything like that. But even six or – six is probably better. You get the power five and then say another situation where that number one team is – drops out of the top four, just like what happened this year. You know, six, maybe, right? One and two, they get a first round bye, and then you have the best of the two teams after. That's a situation. I think four is too little. But if you go more than six, maybe eight, depending on the year, like there was talk for a while, and it's still rumors of a 12-team playoff, you kind of start to lose – like when that one plays a 12 or whatever, that 12 seed is probably going to get mopped. But if you leave it at six, maybe a top eight, like don't get me wrong, I think Oregon did have a really good season this year, even though they lost to Washington twice. But could they do something against a Texas or a Florida State? Maybe. Who knows? I think they beat Florida State and lose to Texas. I think Texas is the real deal. But also, in the same breath, like kind of what you were saying with the committee is, before the season they were saying, well, we don't want to ask how, but how many. And then when it kind of came to it and Florida State goes undefeated, I was like, well, maybe we are going to look at how. You know? And personally – I – Personally, I'm like – You good? Yeah. It's just one of those things that personally I would like to see a team that, you know, I don't care that they were close games. Yeah. The ACC probably isn't as strong of a conference as it was a few years ago, like five years ago even. But the record did show, I mean, 13-0. You know, maybe they do – I mean, go look at the NBA. Maybe they're the sleeper that ends up making it to the final. Who knows? But at the same time, I also see kind of the same thing, what the committee saw with – they're kind of a similar team to what TCU brought to the table last year, where TCU had a great record, but then they make it to the final and then they play a top two team and then everybody stopped watching the national championship game by halftime. Yeah. The other thing, too, with that is I would be – this would be an interesting thing to know, but like how much of Florida State not having their starting quarterback and potentially maybe not even their second string played into that factor because like of what that TCU factor is because it's like, well, you don't have your best dude. Like how do we expect you to play with an Alabama, a Georgia, a Texas, a Washington, or a Michigan without your best dude? Like I don't know. It's one of those things. The other thing, too, is people made a big stink about Florida State undefeated in this season to like five years ago, three years – no, three years ago. Where was all this fucking stink for fucking UCF? They went undefeated. They beat Auburn. Well, UCF still claims that they're the national champions. And Carroll College is the SEC champion this season. Yeah. But like I just – I think it's funny like – or I guess it's not funny. I just – I like – like sometimes – okay, so this is the best way to say it for me. Like don't put it – like the best way for me is – and we tell this to our players all the time is – and even it's a – you come back to a single game with this philosophy is don't put it in the hands of the committee to put you in. Make it so that you're in. And, yeah, they're 13-0 and, you know, but like if you're 13-0 and you're beating everybody by 20-plus points, you're not going to get left out. Like I firmly believe that. If they were to beat everybody they played by 20 points, they're not getting left out. Simple. And, you know, but you never let it – you know, let the committee decide. You make them have to take you. Like you have – like you make them take you. Like even if this is where it's going to be kind of fucked up and this is where you get to the Nolan Ball philosophy for fucking Madden where it's like, well, fucking I'm going to go for two. I'm going to kick onside. I'm going to try and run this bitch up because, you know, at the end of the day, like, fuck, if I win by 30 points, I mean, granted, there's not that much to do in Madden with winning by 30 points, but like if they win by 30 points, they're probably in. And, yeah, I firmly believe that. And it kind of goes, like I said, going down to a game-by-game basis. You never put the game in the hands of the referees either. Chiefs. Oh, yeah, Chiefs. Sorry for all the Chiefs fans out there. I'm not going to be impartial. That was bullshit. So, like, my big takeaways for the college football playoff, it needs to be at least six teams, if not eight teams, but you'd have to really give me a solid reason why it should be eight teams. I like the format with six teams. Realistically, it gets all power five, and then it also brings in the factor of, like, the Georgia-Alabama situation where Georgia was the number one team all year, and Alabama beat them in the championship game. So does Georgia deserve to miss it all? Do they deserve to drop down four spots and become the five team that's outside looking in? No. I think I'd even say on paper Georgia plays anybody in that you could put all the champions of the top five, and that's a game. That's a game for anybody. Anybody in that top four, maybe other than Alabama, is probably losing by a touchdown or two to Georgia. That's how good Georgia is. Yeah, so in my mind, I 100% agree. In my mind, Georgia does not deserve to be out. But looking at it, Michigan, absolutely they deserve to be in. They earned it. Texas, they earned it. Alabama, you earned it. They went out and they won the championship, they earned it. I would say even Washington earned it. Washington earned it. With the four teams, yes. But at the same time, do I think Florida State earned it for being the ACC champions? I do. I think they deserve it. I think the best way to look at it is they earned to get consideration to get in. Yeah, consideration and everything like that, that's one thing. But realistically, four teams is not enough, especially when you talk about Power Fives. Honestly, I vibe with a six-team playoff. I don't know. I think at some point, like, it's so hard to determine this shit. Like, well, honestly, I would say that the playoff structure is way better in the, you know, this for the college football playoff than other leagues around the country. Sorry. I'm throwing shade at someone. But the, like, the – I vibe with a six-team, but I don't think it goes higher than six because then you're getting into safety issues with fucking – I think then you have to start, you know, limiting the amount of games you have to play in the regular season because, you know, if you're Hawaii – I don't know if you know about this rule, but if you play Hawaii Week Zero, you're technically allowed to get another game. So you could end up playing 13 games in a regular season rather than playing 12 in a regular season, which, in fact, Oregon is doing next season. They're playing Hawaii Week Zero, and then they're going to play 12 more games. If they were to, say, win – you know, go undefeated and go all the way to the national championship, they play in 18 games. Just with, you know, the standpoint of it's still college football. The key phrase there is college. It's not NFL. If it's NFL, we're playing 18 games, and we start in late August. We're starting the first week of September, second week of September, and we're playing 18 games. That takes you well into January before the national championship is even played. And, like, by that time, like, then, you know, those guys that are going to the league from that championship team are going – you know, are spending a month and then going into fucking, you know, draft mode. They have a month, like, five weeks or six weeks to prepare for the draft and the combine. Then, you know, a week later, they're in fucking OTAs or rookie minicamps. Like, I think that playing football year-round is – going back to the Shohei conversation about how, like, I think that playing guys both ways is not safe. I think playing football year-round is also not safe. I agree with you, especially from, like, an injury aspect of things. But at the same time, it's like – especially think about it from a player that has the opportunity to go to the next level, you know. Or, I mean, even think about it as, like, a fighter in, like, the UFC. There's guys that you know your body best if you need, like – well, take Israel Adesanya, for example, on his huge championship run. He was having three fights a year. And it was – he'd fight, he'd take one month off to himself, train hard for a month, then coast the second month of his training to get down to weight and start, like, sparring and picking apart the technician and studying and everything so that he can fight. And then he takes a month off and everything like that, which some people can get in that groove and stay in it. And maybe that one month of downtime or the six weeks of downtime or whatever, it may help some guys versus if you have two or three months off, you know. And most teams – anyway, you look at the bowl games and everything. They are going, too. The only thing I'm worried about with this is guys that make the actual playoffs usually don't opt out. But, yes, most bowl games – So I wasn't even going to say anything about that, but most bowl games are within the first two weeks of January anyway. No. There's only, like, six that are in January. And they're the big – the New Year's six. I think there's a couple after that, too. It's most of December in January. There may be one or two, but for the majority, they go up until, like, after the Rose Bowl and all that, like, there's maybe one or two more and then the national championship, I think. I was going to look up the schedule. Ultimately, I don't know, maybe. I think if you add – Go ahead. You go. Yeah, I just think when it comes to – now, so this is where, like, ultimately what's going to happen is the same thing that's going on in the NBA right now at the end of the season tournament, wanting to make more money. You know, they're going to end why the NFL added an 18th game. They want more money. College athletics wants more money, so they're going to, you know, choose to play more games at the expense of the players, even if it is, you know, adding in a, you know, a playoff because they don't want to lose that. You know, they want to have a playoff for, you know, a bunch of teams, but yet they don't want to lose, you know, a game of regular season plays. That's revenue that they're losing from ticket sales and stuff. I think at the end of the day, money is always going to win out over the health of the athlete, which is a little fucked up to say, but at the end of the day, I mean, that's kind of what happens. Yeah. I mean, I think that's also a very good synopsis of what happened. Also in, you know, the college football playoff committee's mind on why Florida State didn't make it. They didn't think that they were that quality of team that was going to provide enough, you know, star power, you know, in that game, which someone definitely could argue because it's Florida State. Florida State is somewhat of a decently big brand, but I think that's also a big component of why that happened. Well, I think we've kind of beat that a little bit to a pulp here. Yeah. Maybe, do you have any other college topics? Honestly, we kind of hit them all kind of in there. I mean, I guess I could say that the national championship for NAIA football is set is Kaiser versus Northwestern. So Kaiser is in Palm Beach, Florida, and then Northwestern is in Iowa. I am not actually sure where in Iowa. I just know that they're in Iowa. But they're set at College of Idaho. I know that we've, you know, on previous podcasts have talked frontier football, and College of Idaho is in the frontier, and they played Kaiser in the semifinals this past Saturday. They lost by a touchdown, had opportunity to win the game, but they represented the frontier pretty well, and they had a great season. So I want to congratulate them on their great season, and Western as well. Western had a great season as well. Unfortunately, the way that the playoffs, that NAIA does playoffs, they forced Montana Western and College of Idaho to play each other just out of straight lack of wanting to pay travel costs. So when it wasn't, you know, an applicable moment for that matchup. But they're both really good teams, and I'm glad that they represented well at the national level. Heck, yeah. But other than that, I mean, college football is kind of coming down to an end. Some big news out of the SCS is that North Dakota State's head coach accepted the linebacker's job at USC. So interestingly enough, there is potential for some decently – I've heard some interesting names for that North Dakota State head coaching job. But for the most part, those are not – they're still playing. Matt Ince is going to be the – still be the head coach until the end of the season, and they play Montana this weekend. So it should be an interesting game. I would not be surprised if that was a shootout or a defensive battle. I have no idea who's going to win. I don't either, especially after the Montana State and DSU game that we were at a couple weeks ago. I mean, what heartbreak. So my view on the game is I think that Montana underperformed in their quarterfinal game against Furman, and I think that North Dakota State showed that they are the real deal and why they are one of the most winningest teams in SCS football because they pounded them. So I will be very interested to see how this game goes. I believe the last time that North Dakota State made the trip to Missoula, they lost when they were the number one team in the country. So it should be a good game. If Montana wants to win, they have to play better, though. They cannot play like how they played against Furman. They will lose if they play like how they played against Furman. I also will say that I think that South Dakota State rolls in their semifinals over Albany. Yeah. And nothing against Albany, but South Dakota State is… Legit. They're a triple-headed monster as a team. Like, when you want to talk about offense, defense, and special teams, they have proved… They've turned almost everybody off that national championship team from last year. Well, exactly. But even the guys that they lost, even though it was only a couple, they definitely continued to show that they are that team. They are a legit team. So it will be interesting. Let's see. I think… Where are we at with everything else? We kind of… We talked a lot of NCAA football. We talked a lot of NBA. We've talked a lot about Shohei. We'll see. I guess we'll hit the NFL real quick. We'll make it quick. I know that we have some things we want to talk about that we're kind of dragging on right now as a podcast, but we're going to hit it pretty quick, I think. So, NFL-wise, I think a big thing is what's going on with quarterback injuries right now. You're seeing a lot of guys like Joe Burrow, Kirk Cousins… Aaron Rodgers. CJ Surprise. Aaron Rodgers. Derek Carr. Yeah, a lot of big-name quarterbacks being hurt. Some teams having success without their starter, and some teams are, you know, dumpster fires, as always. I don't know. I've been very impressed with Jake Browning's job so far in Cincinnati. I was a little worried when he first took over when they were only scoring like 10 points a game. Or they scored 10 points, like 13 points. I think they lost both those games. I was a little worried. But, yeah. But, I mean, Cincinnati has been… I mean, he won AFC Player of the Week not this past weekend, but two weekends ago in their win over the Jags and didn't play too bad. Was it yesterday? Yeah, yesterday against the Colts. It will be very interesting to see what happens with other quarterbacks. I know that Aaron Rodgers could potentially return for the Jets. I don't know how. Don't ask me how because I don't think that he should. He is a fucking statue. But that is, you know, I am… I don't know. One of those things is you see a lot of injuries, the quarterbacks right now. I don't know if it's just the year of the injured quarterback or what, but I don't know. I still think the season's been pretty good. The Bengals were a little bit better. You know, I don't know if they're going to make the playoffs, but who knows. The interesting thing is the Bengals have the exact same record right now as the fucking Chiefs, which is really interesting. Yeah, the Bengals don't have a quarterback. They have Jake Brown. I will say there are, unfortunately with the injuries, kind of like you touched on a little bit, and I don't remember if it was before the podcast or after we started this, but there are teams that are doing well with their backup, and then there's teams that are doing not so well. And the Vikings being on the not-so-well side of things? Well, they started out good. I mean, we still won yesterday, and that's great, but it also took… It was a bit cautious. Oh, so bad. Yesterday was so bad. And we shouldn't have won 3-0. That game was just bad. But I think the Vikings ultimately are figuring out that Kirk Cousins was a big part of why the Vikings were good. I've been saying that for a long time. I mean, and I've never been a Kirk Cousins hater. I've liked Kirk, and I know what he brings to the table, but I think now seeing that he's not there, you really can tell that the Vikings are hurting without him. And then, you know, the Jets going back and forth trying to figure out who they're going to play. Dumpster fire. They just went back to Zach Wilson. Dumpster fire. You know, I am not an Aaron Rodgers fan in any way, shape, or form. But realistically, Aaron Rodgers, if he's the one that's quarterbacking that club… That's so much better. That's such a different team. And you're not even talking about, oh, if the Jets make the playoffs, it's like, it's when they make the playoffs, what do they need to do to go deep? You know, it's not like, oh, if they make the playoffs, and it'll probably be the whole if thing is like, well, they need the Steelers to lose, and they need the Colts to beat this team, and they need, you know, like at the very end of the season, it's going to be a whole bunch of teams thrown together. And they're going to have a list of like three, four different scenarios. Well, currently they're well outside of the – they're currently well on the outside looking in on the playoffs. Another quarterback injury shocking backup news is Joe Flacco's a starting quarterback again. The other thing, too, is we were talking about this last night when we talked on the phone about Joe Flacco. You know what's crazy is I'm like, yeah, the Browns fucking suck. I said that. And I'm looking right now at the fucking playoffs, like if the playoffs ended today, what it would be. And the Browns are fucking eight and five, and they're the fifth seed in the playoffs. I know. Like what the hell? But realistically, the way that I see that is like, well, if Kenny Pickett finally learned how to throw a passing touchdown, the Ravens, the Steelers, and the Browns could all make the playoffs in different scenarios. Yeah. But realistically, the whole thing is I hope that all of these quarterbacks that got hurt this season make a full recovery and everything's A-OK. But it's been an insane year for football. It's been crazy. Is it the top seven that go? I believe so. Number one overall gets a bye and then. Top seven. As of right now, the Texans, there's a, let's see, what? One, two, three, four, five, six. A six-way tie for, no, five-way tie for sixth place in the AFC right now, and that's between the Steelers, Colts, Texans, Broncos, Bengals, and Bills. If the playoffs ended today, the Bills and the Bengals are not making the playoffs. Yeah, it's, at least the AFC side will be crazy. And if you want my personal opinion about the NFC side of things, the NFC South should just give up their playoff spot. I think there's a couple other teams. They're a division winner right now. If it ended today, we'd be at Tampa at six and seven. Yeah, they're all, if I recall correctly, last time I saw, all of the teams that are in the South are all having losing records. I'll tell you the Panthers. I mean, the Falcons, the Saints, and the Bucs are all tied at six and seven, and the fucking Carolina Panthers are one and 12. And congratulations to the New England Patriots and the Carolina Panthers. You are the first two teams eliminated from the playoffs. Hey. The Bears aren't on that list, but, you know, I can't talk much. They beat us a couple weeks ago. They are currently five and eight. You know, speaking of five and eight teams, I never did give my hot take on Justin Herbert yesterday and said he was an underachiever. The Chargers are five and eight. Brandon Staley's getting fired this season. I honestly think that they should fire Brandon Staley. I just don't get it. The Chargers have so much talent on their roster, but yet year in and year out, they fucking suck. Like, you think about it. Like, back to the years of fucking, like, Phillip Rivers and LaDainian Tomlinson, like, when did the Chargers ever do anything meaningful? Yeah. Realistically, yeah. Like, think about it. Like, not like we said. I know you and me talked about how, like, Cleveland's fucking cursed and all that. But, like, they might be worse. I mean, Cleveland's cursed, but. Yeah, but the Chargers also might be just as bad, if not worse, as far as their curse. I mean, granted, they're not going to. I mean, granted, the Chargers haven't gone 0-16, but, or 0-17, but, like. But, like, I don't know. Like, every year you're like, oh, my God. The Chargers have so much talent. Like, Justin Herbert's going to win the MVP. The Chargers are going to win the AFC West. And you're in and you're out. You're disappointed. Okay, I got a question for you, because this kind of just came up when you said MVP. And I'll just make this a really quick one. But do you agree with this question, that Adrian Peterson is the last non-quarterback MVP? And, like, did he win the MVP? Or are you saying, like, factually the last one? Yeah, factually, he's the last one. This came up on, I believe it was on my Instagram feed, but it was, I think it was like Bleacher Report or something, where they said the last non-quarterback MVP was Adrian Peterson. Do you think that quarterbacks are going to be the one that are sought after as the big guys in the MVP race for the foreseeable future? Well, in all reality, like, I mean, the guy that touches the ball every single play should probably be the MVP if he's your best player. So it makes sense to me why it's been quarterback-dominant. And the reason why you can't give it to a receiver, because, like, I mean, the quarterback throws to that receiver, so it's essentially Nolan Boyd, and it'll go to the quarterback. The running back, I mean, gets the handoff from the quarterback, and so, like, there's some, like, you can make the case for a running back, but, like, in this day and age, nobody's going to vote for a running back. There's some volume enough. And so, like, I don't know. It's probably pretty, yeah, I would imagine that it's probably going to still continue to be a heavy, heavy quarterback award. And honestly, if they were going to hand out an MVP that was a non-quarterback in the last five years, the one that it would have been would have been Derrick Henry. Yeah. And they didn't do it. So I'm going to say that, yeah, most likely it's a quarterback. It's turned it essentially into a quarterback award. Here's my hot take for you. Screw all the skilled positions. This year's MVP, Jason Kelsey. That madman, he touches the ball every play. And not only does he make blocks, but he does blocks with power and just an absolute unit. Can't forget that he's also a runner-up for People's Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive. So I'm going to give a shout-out to my man, Mitch Volat. If you're listening, Mitch, you're the dude. So Mitch is absolutely in love with the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, which he should be because Philadelphia Eagles offensive line might be the best offensive line out there, and they have one of the best offensive line men out there in fucking Jason Kelsey. I think there's a couple of dudes that are... In all reality, if we're talking offensive line play, you've got two dudes. There's two offensive line men that are leaps and bounds above everybody. The number two guy is fucking Jason Kelsey. There's a gap, a big gap between three and two. And there's another huge gap, and it's fucking Trent Williams at number one. Trent Williams is a fucking monster. Oh my god. But Jason Kelsey, I love Jason Kelsey. Probably one of my favorite players in the NFL right now. And by the way, I'll go ahead and give him a plug. Go ahead and watch Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelsey's podcast. Not only are they very informative on their football season and everything like that, but they're pretty darn funny too. So check out the New Heights podcast. Yeah, I love it. There's a good chance that if you know Mitch Millat, again, I'm going to bring up Millat, he's probably watching the Kelsey podcast too. Yeah, so with that being said, I don't know. That's a good question. I would assume that's... I don't know. It's kind of like a defensive line man winning the Heisman. You just don't see it anymore. Yeah. You know who the last, I think, defensive player to even be in the top, you know, finalist for the Heisman was? I think it was either Manti Te'o or Nadomi Kinsu. So I don't know. That's a while ago. Yeah. That was a fat minute ago. Well, we should probably hit our last topic here and wrap up, I guess, last two topics. PBR teams finally wrapped up, and it was probably the two teams that I expected to be in the finals. It was the Austin Gamblers and the Texas Rattlesnakes. So Austin ended up losing. They only had a 50% ride rate versus Texas's 53% ride rate, and Texas ended up winning it all. So Texas is the second-ever team's champions. So congratulations to them. Do you remember who we both picked? I know that I thought the Gamblers had the best chance, and then I thought Oklahoma Freedom were going to have a better year than they ended up. I can't remember who I picked, but I was sitting here thinking, I'm like, who did we pick? I was going to claim whoever won this year and said that I said that, but I don't think I did. Besides the point. So, yeah, that's good. I haven't been to a rodeo in a while, but I need to go. I'll get you up to the Montana State Spring Rodeo. Yeah. That's a fun one. Was that the one that me and Henry came up to a few years back? Yes, sir. Shit, we almost stopped at a great place. French Toast. French Toast and, oh, never mind. Let's hit our last segment and our continuous segment. Let's get better, shall we? Nolan, do you want to go first or do you want me to go first? I got one. I got a good one. Patrick Holmes and Eric get the fuck better. This shit's bad. You actually infuriate me. I didn't have much to begin with because I fucking don't like. I like Andrew Reid. I'm a big fan of Patrick Holmes. But I lost a lot of respect for both of them because, honestly, the bullshit that they pulled last night against the Bills with, oh, my God, and freaking out about, you know, the guy being offsides. Like, and then you score the touchdown on that play. Like, and then they're, like, impressed. Like, you can't you can't make that ticky-tack call. Like, you know, you should have just let the play stand because it was a touchdown. Well, OK, like, and Pat McAfee said it on his show. Like, you could say that, but then you're getting into the maybe it was Pat McAfee. Then you're getting into your, well, like, you can't call that a ticky-tack foul. Then you're getting into the world of, well, the Eagles won the Super Bowl last year. Or the Saints made it to the Super Bowl a few years ago against the Rams. So, like, you can't do that. Honestly, I lost a lot of respect for how they acted. You know, Patrick Mahomes on the sideline flipping out and telling Josh Allen that that was, you know, a shitty call and all that shit. Like, go fucking watch tape and you'll see that it is fucking offsides. And even Dan Orlowski on NFL Live today went in and broke down the tape and showed, like, six plays where Kadarius Toney was offsides. The same way in that game. Just imagine they got called that one time. So, like, in all reality, Chiefs, you gotta get better. And honestly, NFL referees, you also gotta be better. Because if you've done it six fucking times during the course of the game, you should be calling it. Because that's fucking egregious. That actually infuriates me. Ah, the shoulda, woulda, coulda stuff. You kinda have to get over it. Move on. Shoulda, woulda, coulda won that game, you know. Oh, well. But, speaking about a couple of my teams in the past few weeks. Oh, no. Oh, no. MSU, Minnesota. You know, Pat McAfee would kick me in the shin and force me to step on a Lego for saying this. But, kickers, please, please, please, get better. In both the Montana State game and in the Vikings game. There was two field goals apiece. MSU, it was two field goals in a point after try that were missed. And MSU loses that game in overtime due to a blocked point after try. Which hurt me. They shouldn't have been in overtime anyway. To defend the score inside the five. Yeah. And then, the funny thing with Greg Joseph, he was one for three. But, he's the only one that scored points that game. But, it comes down to shoulda, woulda, coulda. Because, guess what? Blair Walsh also scored all the points in the NFC Championship game against the Seahawks. And, guess what he did? He shanked it wide left. So, Pat McAfee, don't hate me. But, kickers, please, please, please, get better. So, you're gonna like this tweet that I'm about to bring up. So, it was on the, like, I tried to find a way of talking. But, just in response to what you said, it was funny. So, after the University of Montana game against Furman, College Football Reddit posted a tweet and it said, Well, things we know about regional stereotypes for college football. Place kickers don't live in Montana. And then, like, punters aren't here. And, I was dying. I'm like, oh my god. And then, you look at the fucking comments. It's a bunch of guys like, hey, hey, the Montana kicker only missed one field goal. And, it got caught in the wind. You shouldn't put the fucking Montana State shit on us either. It's like, oh, buddy. I'll tell you right now, at least the Montana State situation in the playoffs wasn't as bad as Weber State when they came to Montana State last year. That was a kicker. That's not a kicker, though. That's a fucking long snapper. Well, and the punter. The punter also missed the first two he didn't catch. But, it was also, yes, the long snapper. But, it's a mixture. You know what? We'll just even call it special teams at this point. We won't even call it just the kicker. Special teams. Hey, bro. If you're listening to this, you're on my get better segment. I fucking hate special teams. Get better. I'm kidding. Don't take that to heart. Ah, shit. Like, honestly, like, any time I ever watch, like, football, just a normal football game, I literally close, if there's anyone that I'm rooting for in that game, I usually close my eyes when the special teams are out there, because, like, I just can't stand to watch. I've been, I have emotional trauma from special teams from my life. Um, so, you know, that's definitely going to get better. But, I have one more segment before we leave, and this will be our final segment. So, it's Saturday at 11 o'clock. Your Vikings take on my poor, poor ass Bengals. Yeah. What were they expecting? Like, a 10-3 game? 10-7 game? What were they expecting there? Shit, you can't even put 3-0 off the table, because at least... You know, I'm at a loss for words, because... Is it going to be 3-3? Because the Bengals have scored 3-3. Yeah. I'm at a loss for words, because... Is it going to be 3-3? Because the Bengals have scored 30 points the last two weeks. You know, I think it's going to be negative. I don't know how, but it's going to be negative. You know what? You just brought up something that I totally forgot about. You know what the lowest possible scoring game could ever be? That's just not the lowest scoring. The lowest amount of points someone could score in a game is... Negative 2. It could be one point. Oh, can't you... You know, one point each kick? Oh. So, if a team scores a touchdown... Or, no. If a team... Let's say I'm driving the ball right now, and you pitch me off. And then you decide, oh, I'm going to take it out of the end zone. You get like three yards out of the end zone. And then you run it back. I think this is on an extra point anyways. Or on a two-point. So, it would actually be... I guess it's not the lowest amount a team could score, but... Have you ever heard of the one-point safety? Like someone... There's a turnover. The team takes it out of the end zone on a two-point conversion. Trying to go for two. And then they go back in. You tackle the end zone. Fucking one-point safety. I did not know that was a rule. I've heard of it, but I never put any thought into it. So, maybe that's what the score will be. It'll be... Never mind. It can't be one-nothing, because... It has to be on a point after. Or a two-point conversion. It's going to be eight-nothing with a one-point safety. No, it's going to be seven-nothing with a one-point safety. You mean seven-one? No. Because the team that... Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. Seven-nothing with a one-point safety. I don't know. Maybe we take the three-nothing yet again. I should. I don't know, man. It's going to be an interesting game. Fuck. Let me look at the betting line here. I just... I have it right here. I thought it was hilarious. I was like, oh, shit. They're playing. Well, I don't know about playing, but... They're supposed to meet up and have a game. Well, yeah. One team might show up. Since he's the favorite... What? Since he's the favorite by three-and-a-half. Over-under of 38-and-a-half points. I'm going to take the under on that one. Well, it depends. Who's that quarterback for the Vikings? Well, since Josh Dobbs did best... Well, it's either going to be Josh Dobbs or... Let's see. I'm drawing it. Nick Mullins. But you also can't... Jaron Hall. He's still in the mix. And who knows? They might just be desperate enough to go call Sean Mannion and be like, hey, we're calling you up from the practice squad this week. Shit. Fuck. That's so bad. 38-5. Yikes. I'm taking the under on that. I don't know about you. I'm taking that under. Oh, yeah. I'm taking the under. The Vikings can't score currently, regardless of who their quarterback is. The only way that we score points is if Kirk Cousins comes out on his little cart for his knee and already is sitting eight yards deep and magically throws the ball and it magically scores. I don't even know at that point. Like, Kirk Cousins would have to come out injured, I think. Okay. So we'll revisit this next week because we definitely will have to talk about this game. Fuck. It's going to be an interesting game. I just don't trust my Bengals. They'll probably lose. The only reason why it's this close, it's a 50-50, is because both teams don't have their starting quarterbacks. Yeah. And the other thing, too, is you look at the injury report and Justin Jefferson, questionable, for the Vikings, Alexander Madison. I mean, it might just be the fact that the Bengals have less dudes on the injury report than the Vikings. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? Yeah. It'll be a game where people think defenses are really good, but in all reality, the offenses just suck. Raiders and Vikings. With that being said, I think we're going to wrap the show up. Thank you again for everybody that's tuned in. Me and Ashby said this was going to be a shorter one. That was a lie. It ended up being an average one. But we're glad that you came back and listened to us. We're sorry about the long-awaited return to the podcast. Again, follow us on Insta, on Twitter, and hit us up. We'll be on Spotify and where you get your podcasts. If you ever have any topic ideas for the show or anything you want us to talk about or us to get heated over, there's a good chance you can find something with that. Comments, questions, DM us or email us. Yep. We will try to respond. We're really bad at responding, but we'll try to respond. Thank you again. Hope to see you next week, if we're on next week. Have a good one, guys.