"They're coming for you Barbara"

Amy and Rachel, two millennials, are passionate about all things creepy and spooky. They discuss zombies and share two recipes for zombie cocktails. They also talk about the different types of zombies, including biological, supernatural, chemical, technological, constructed, and magic zombies. They mention the origins of zombies in Haitian and African religions and the use of voodoo practices to revive the dead. They also touch on the real accounts of zombies, including a case in Haiti where a woman was buried alive and reappeared years later, and another case where a man claimed to have been buried alive and forced to work on a sugar plantation. Hello! I'm Amy! And I'm Rachel! And we're just two millennials who share a passion for the creepy and the spooky, harbor a true love for true crime, and share our favorite spirits. So sit back, have a cocktail with two creepy ghouls, dun dun dun! What's our topic? Can you do the, our title? The coming for you Barbara! Zombies! Everybody guess! It's zombies! What drink doesn't have zombies? Well, naturally, a zombie! Oh. Oh, like a zombie dust, which is one of my favorite beers. Is that what you're talking about? Um, you know what, I like the energy. It's not a cocktail though. But, it's not a beer. Okay. It's not an IPA. Dang it. Um, it is said Don Beach concocted this cocktail to help a hungover customer through a business meeting. Did it work? It's very true. Taste conceals the alcohol content, so this could be dangerous. Oh, shoot. So, a zombie, and it's a lot of ingredients, so what does mama always say? Buy the minis. Oh, buy the minis, yep. To help with cost. If you don't want to spend all this, just buy the minis, kiddos. Okay, but anyway, I have two recipes that we can go with here. I like it. We're going to go for the first one. It's a one ounce of light rum. One ounce of gold rum. So, the light rum could be a Jamaican rum. The gold rum could be your Puerto Rican gold rum. One ounce unsweetened pineapple juice. A half a lemon juice. One lime juice. One ounce passion fruit syrup. A half ounce simple syrup. One dash aromatic bitters. One ounce dark rum. It should be like 151 proof, I think, is what I have here. Oh, wow. That would be a DiMera rum and fresh mint garnish. Now, for some of those, like myself, who are a bit lazy and don't want to use that many ingredients, here's recipe number two. Dark rum, use 30 milliliters. White rum, 30 milliliters. Apricot brandy, 30 milliliters. Rum Bacardi, 30 milliliters. Lime juice, just measure with your heart, kiddos. Orange juice, measure with your heart. Grenadine and a maraschino cherry. Nice. Which would you prefer? Probably number two, just because I love a snack in my drink. Maraschino cherry. And I love using lime juice in cocktails. I love lime juice in cocktails, too. And I'm curious about apricot brandy. Yeah, I've never had that. I think I've had an apricot liqueur, maybe, which I'm assuming is not too far-fetched from a brandy, but that's just me. And, again, I already told you my important tip. Buy the minis, especially if you're only looking to try one. If you're not, then, hey, go big, go home. Buy your fifths. How do we want to start out? Raquel, I'm going to define what a zombie is, and then I'm going to explain the different types of breeds of zombie. Oh, there's breeds? Oh, there's different types of zombies. There's not just one type of zombie. Come on. Of course not. In this day and age, friend, variety is the spice of life. Apparently. Or the dead life. True. Touché. Okay, there's your dad joke of the day. So, a zombie is a corpse said to be revived by witchcraft, especially in certain African and Caribbean religions. What classifies a zombie is a willless and speechless human, as in voodoo beliefs and fictional stories, to have died and supernaturally reanimated. Now, I have a variety of zombies. So, there's the biological zombies. Parasites modify the host creature's behavior. Supernatural zombies. These are zombies that are created in a supernatural way. So, I'm assuming, think witchcraft, think that kind of gamut. Chemical zombies. Strange chemicals are discovered and are meant to bring back the dead to life. Think Resident Evil. Technological zombies. A new technology to bring the dead back to life. What do you mean, technically, would that be Resident Evil? I think Resident Evil is more chemicals. I don't know. You play video games as a child, I'm assuming. No. I played Mario Kart. Well, that's adorable. But, my last, oh, I have two more zombies, actually. Constructed zombie. Think Frankenstein. A body constructed by other body parts. Oh, yeah. Think about it. Frankenstein was kind of a zombie. I think that one of my fun facts is, like, do we consider the debate about whether Frankenstein's monster was a zombie. But, I'll get to that when I get to my fun facts. Yeah, and then we'll get into it. But, and then I have magic zombie. And, I have, for this one, again, think sorcerers. Think, I'm thinking, like, magic the game. Yes, or the gathering? The gathering, the game, again. Honey, I'm too pretty for those things. I'm kidding. I just always wanted to use that line. Use it as much as you would like. I'm too pretty to watch those games. I'm thinking of Gina Linetti whenever they're like, you know, Gina, Lord of the Rings. And, she goes, hey, I'm too pretty for that. I don't know what that means. My favorite quote of hers, not to get too sidetracked, is, I want to be the human equivalent of the 100 emoji. There's so many we could do. There's so many. I want to be the Paris of people. That's probably one of mine. Mine would be, I want to be the New York of people. I can see them. Okay. But, yes, so, what do you use? I have some true accounts. Okay, so maybe it would make more sense for me to do the origins, the history, and then we'll go into true accounts. I love, excuse me. It's funny because it's like, you know whenever you see those serial killers and you're trying to piece it together with like a cork board and string? That's kind of like my notes today. Okay. You know what? I think I know what I was getting at. Oh, yeah, I numbered it. Okay. This is fun. Okay, so the ancient Greeks may have been the first civilization terrorized by a fear of the undead. Archaeologists have unearthed many ancient graves which contain skeletons pinned down by rocks and other heavy objects. I learned this too in my little research as well. We can assume to prevent dead bodies from reanimation. But zombies actually trace their roots to Haiti and Haitian Creole traditions that have roots in African religions, religious customs. Possibly originating in the 17th century when African slaves were bought into work on Haiti's sugar cane plantations. These brutal conditions left the slaves longing for freedom. According to some reports, the life or rather afterlife of the zombie represented the horrors of slavery. Okay, that made sense. So I think that's what I was getting at. Voodoo is a religion based in West Africa and practiced in Haiti, Caribbean, Brazil, South America, and other areas with an African heritage. So many people who follow the voodoo religion today believe zombies are myths. Some believe zombies are people revived by a voodoo practitioner called a bokar. Bokars have a tradition of using herbs, shells, fish, animal parts, bones, and they create zombie powders which contain tetratoxin. It's a deadly neurotoxin found in puffer fish and other marine species. And this is used carefully at sublethal doses. The tetratoxin combo may cause zombie-like symptoms like difficulty walking, I mean that can happen after a few drinks, mental confusion, that can happen after a few drinks, and respiratory problems, allergies. But those are the symptoms of difficulty walking, confusion, and respiratory problems. High doses lead to paralysis and coma, giving the appearance of a death-like appearance, you know, very pale, things like that, and then buried alive and later revived, which that is a fear of mine. And there are real zombies reported in medical journals. And in 1997, an article in the British Medical Journal, The Lancet, described accounts of zombies. So if I, I don't want to step on your toes, I just have a couple of accounts right here. It better not be about the one in Haiti. You gotta take that one off. Okay, well I'm gonna let you take over then. Because that's literally the one, like, documented one. Like, with... Okay, no, you take it away. I'm glad we did that. I saw, I saw Haiti on everything, I'm like, hmm? Don't do it. I can see you being like, don't do it, bitch. Don't you do it. Okay, so you're... Don't you take my moment to shine. I will not. Because when looking at, like, Googling, like, true accounts of zombies, there's a little tidbit here, but there's really one case that stands out, and it's the one in Haiti. But, right before I get to that, there are, though it's rare, there are several credible reports in medical journals of people using, like, specific medical compounds to induce paralysis in people, then revive them from the graves. A 1997 article in the British Medical Journal, The Lancet, described three verifiable accounts of zombies. In one case, a Haitian woman who appeared to be dead was buried in her family tomb, only to reappear three years later. An investigation revealed that her tomb was filled with stones, and her parents agreed to admit her to a local hospital. So, the big case is also in Haiti. Mm-hmm. But a Haitian man named Claire Avias Narcissi, is that how you pronounce it? I think so. I would. Entered a local hospital's severe respiratory problems, allergies, I'm joking, in 1962. After he slipped into a coma, Claire Avias was declared dead and was buried shortly thereafter. But 18 years later, a man walked up to a lady named Angelina Narcissi in a village marketplace, insisting she was his sister. Doctors, townspeople, and family members all identified him as Claire Avias, complained he had been buried alive, then dug up and put to work on a distant sugar plantation. If he had not introduced himself using his boyhood nickname and mentioned facts only intimate family members knew, Angelina would not have believed him. The man told Angelina he remembered that night well. He knew when he was lowered into his grave because he was fully conscious, although he could not speak or move. As the earth was thrown over his coffin, he felt as if he were floating over the grave. The scar on his right cheek, he said, was caused by a nail driven through his casket. The night he was buried, he told Angelina a voodoo priest raised him from the grave. He was beaten with a sisal whip and carried off to a sugar plantation in northern Haiti where, with other zombies, he was forced to work as a slave. Only with the death of the zombie master were they all able to escape, and Claire Avias eventually returned home. His death had been recorded by doctors at the American-directed hospital in De Chapelle. On April 30, 1962, hospital records show that Claire Avias walked into the hospital's emergency room when spitting up blood. He was feverish and full of aches. His doctors could not diagnose his illness, and his symptoms grew steadily worse. Three days after he entered the hospital, according to records, he died. Detaining physicians, an American among them, signed his death certificate. He was placed in cold storage for 24 hours, and then he was buried. He is said he remembered hearing his doctors pronounce him dead while his sister wept at his bedside. Oh my god, isn't that crazy? That's literally the only one I have. My next little topic is, what are diseases that can cause you to act like a zombie? Lay it on me, I want to know. Okay, so, there are some diseases that can give someone the hint of looking like they're a zombie. One of them is sleeping sickness. It's prevalent in Africa, and it's caused by the parasite Tripansomoma brucei, which is transmitted by the testy fly. In the late stages of the illness, once the parasite has invaded the brain, victims find it hard to concentrate, become irritable, their speech is slurred, and they stop eating. Most are unable to sleep during the night, and find it almost impossible to stay up during the day, eventually reducing them to a zombie-like state before going into a coma and dying. Those that survive are generally left with irreparable brain damage, which is awful. Next is rabies, actually, that they put on here. While it's not a disease that is truly going to make a person bite someone, it can mimic some of the conditions of the zombie's lust for brains. I don't know why I lost the pause. The rabies virus causes massive inflammation of the brain and is transmitted by bites from infected animals. Symptoms of rabies can include full or partial paralysis, mental impairment, agitation, strange behavior, mania, and delirium. It is true, there aren't many people with rabies going around and biting other people, but many rabid animals become very aggressive and attack. So, I suppose if a person who had a tendency toward aggressive behavior got rabies, it could be possible. But usually, we all know that if you don't get shot soon enough, you're going to die of rabies. That just makes me think of Meredith from The Office. Oh, with the bat? I know. The run for rabies. The run for the cure. Next is dysarthria. It's a disorder affecting the motor controls of human speech. It's neurological in its origin, so it ties in with the brain-based aspects of zombie lore. There are a number of causes of dysarthria, but all are characterized by a malfunction in the nervous system that makes it difficult to control the tongue, lips, throat, or lungs, which then leads to difficulty in articulating and can use the inability to communicate more than unintelligible noises like we hear. Quite like the moans and grunts of zombies. And I think the last one I have is leprosy. It's caused by a bacterium. Cases of leprosy have been reported going back more than 4,000 years, and considering a common feature of zombies is their rotting flesh and decaying body parts. It is seen that leprosy and its similar-sounding symptoms would be a natural inspiration for such stories. It is a myth that leprosy causes body parts to fall off, but it can cause damage and numbness, and could cause slow, shuffling walk similar to the gait we associate with zombies. The skin lesions that are probably the key characteristics of leprosy, with some imagination gives skin the diseased, decaying appearance we associate with zombies. So, long story short, don't get the disease. It sounds awful. Hey Rachel, can I tell you something? You're looking mighty tasty right now. Maybe I just might take a bite out of you. Don't do it. I had cabbage for dinner. You won't like it. Broke. I love cabbage. Fart city. I know, that's why I gotta get out of here in like 45 minutes or I'll be fat. She's gonna blow! Oh my god, well you wanna hear some pop culture? Yeah, sure. To get us off that topic. So, pop culture on zombies. Zombies have appeared in literature as far back as 1697. That's pretty far back. And were described as spirits or ghosts, not as mindless cannibals in search of brains. They appeared on the film scene around the same time as our monster, sorry, again, you guys know I have shitty handwriting, as our other monster favorites, Frankenstein and Dracula in the 1932 film release, White Zombie, which I believe was Rob Zombie's first band. Oh. Fun fact. In 1968, zombies started to gain a cult following with the release of George Romero's Night of the Living Dead. In the next 15 years, Romero directed two more films, Dawn of the Dead and Day of the Dead. As the special effects and makeup improved, the zombies became gruesome and realistic with decaying flesh, missing limbs, and an overall corpse appearance. So, very much like the diseases you just described. Which, that checks out, honestly. It does. Because I think originally they just put white face paint on them. And darkened their eyes. And that was a zombie. So, decaying flesh, that checks more onto the spectrum of things. So, the 80s had dozens of zombie films that come out. So, you had Scooby-Doo battled zombies in 1998. And Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island 2013 had the release of World War Z, which brought zombies to a whole new level. And I would argue that Resident Evil was the one that really took off on the zombie era. And zombies soon joined TV with iZombie, Helix. But the one that really comes on the top list is, of course, The Walking Dead with Carl. And I think they were doing a new spin-off with Daryl. Which, I like that show. And it's one of the things where I want to get back into it. I think over COVID. The Walking Dead? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And over COVID, I started it over from the beginning. And then I got off on it again. I watched the first couple seasons, but then they got a little too gruesome for me. But it's based off of a really good comic book series, The Walking Dead. Yeah, I thought that too. And my friends who watched the show, I watched it with in college, they had read it and really enjoyed the comic book series. But it really veers off. I mean, it stays pretty true, but it veers off. And some people die that shouldn't die and all these other things. I don't know how it ends in the comic book series. Is it ended or are they still writing it? I don't know. That's a good question. Because, and then that too, I really love that you get into the different elements of design. So you have, there's even a zombie, like an example of like, so say if someone died on a boat, then you have like water zombies. Then if someone was on a construction site that kind of like, you know, after time starts to crumble, they get buried alive. So you have buried alive zombies. Then you have fire zombies. So if there was like a fire, then they start walking through it. So the elements of design are really, really great. So yeah, the elements are really cool. And I love how they design everything in The Walking Dead, because it's like the different kind of zombies that I talked about earlier. You get to see kind of a little bit more about that. So I, yeah, I really do recommend that show still, even though I haven't finished it. But absolutely. And I also, iZombie is a really cute show. I never finished it either. I've heard of it. It's on Netflix, I believe. But it was a WB show. And it was basically about, she was a zombie, but she was also a coroner. So for like a police department. Oh, wow. She was originally going to be a medical student. So these zombies could live with people or like be in society? In this one you could, because then whenever she was doing autopsies and stuff, and she would like take the brains of like the, and she would eat it with like hot sauce. So they eat brains. So they can speak normally. But she would have, you know, cognitive abilities, and she was just really white and her hair turned really white. So it's, and so that's what she, and she would solve crimes by like eating the brain. She got glimpses of like how they died. Oh, my gosh. So it was a little bit of detective work. Detective work. Okay. And everything. So I really, that was a really cute show. And then Resident Evil is a show on Netflix, which I started watching, but then I know a chihuahua is going to die, so I didn't want to watch that. So I stopped. So and then we stopped. Yeah, I don't need that. You don't. I'm a chihuahua. I'm a chihuahua mom because my dog is half chihuahua, half dachshund. So she is a chiweenie. I was like, I don't need that negativity in my life. You don't. But I also have some more books. I have a lot of film recommendations. Okay. So do you want me, oh, wait. Do you want me to tell you something fun facts? Oh, yeah. Because we're, okay. You're going to tell yourself. I know. I was getting ahead of myself. You're too excited. I do. I get excited. So here's some fun zombie fun facts. Please. People who like zombies are called zombophiles. Yes. People were scared of zombies way back in ancient Greece. Yes. So you already said that. Sorry. I was going to read it. But they found graves of skeletons pinned down in rocks to prevent the dead from coming back to life. And did you know that October 8th, which is coming up, is World Zombie Day? How do they do the zombie walk and everything? People dress up like zombies and shuffle to raise money for charity. I think the one here is in the summer or early fall. Oh, which is now. So I'll look it up. Technically now. Oh, that would be fun. Yeah. They just sit on that one street for like the whole afternoon. A human zombie outbreak is not impossible. Which actually does give me anxiety. A zombie apocalypse is not necessarily an impossibility. Some scientists claim that because humans are susceptible to brain parasites, behavioral viruses such as mad cow disease and neurotoxins, some of us may one day, if we're not careful, could end up doing the proverbial monster mash. The graveyard smash. Shut up. Though that would be very unlikely still. The first ever film to have a zombie in it was called White Zombie and it was made in 1932. Although some argue that Frankenstein 1931 was technically a zombie movie, the film generally agreed to be the first official zombie flick was White Zombie, directed by Victor Halperin and starring Bela Lugosi, who was known to be Dracula later in life, as the zombie master named Murder Legendaire. Spooky. Although zombies are purely fiction, in the insect world, zombies actually exist. Sort of. A fungus found in tropical rainforests known as cordyceps releases spores into the air which infects the brains of ants. These zombie ants then climb trees where they die. The fungus then sprouts through the dead bodies and releases further air spores in to infect more ants. That's... It's not crazy. It's creepy. It's like going through their body, yes. Ew. Ew, Bob. It makes me think of Alien. Oh, yeah. Ooh. I was thinking of Mars Attacks and I went, oh, right, wrong Alien movie. The original title for the game Plants vs. Zombies was Lawn of the Dead. Okay. To go against George Muir's classic zombie movie, Dawn of the Dead. Okay, well that's adorable. In Scandinavian countries, zombies are called Draugr, D-R-A-U-G-R. According to legend, Draugrs were warriors who were so fierce that after they died, they would come back to life to carry on killing the living. As well as cutting off their heads, you had to burn their bodies and then take their ashes out to sea. So could their ashes, like, reanimate, I'm guessing, unless you took them to sea? I guess that's as far as I went in this explanation. There is a debate about whether Frankenstein's monster was a zombie. Some people say the fact that the monster was a reanimated corpse means that he was a zombie. Others say the fact that he was never alive in the first place means that he wasn't a zombie. Zombies traditionally feast on human flesh, which the monster does not. Right. It's a whole thing. Zombie or not, the debate rages on. But I say... I say not. The word zombie is thought to have been adapted from the African word nzambi, N-Z-A-M-B-I, meaning God. Le Grand Zombie, or the Grand Serpent, was the father of all gods and appeared in the shape of a python. Oh. Zombie lore dictates that there's only two ways to kill a zombie. Go for the brain or cut off the head. Father of the modern zombie, George Romero, is viewed as the creator of the modern zombie cinema. He has directed more zombie films than anyone in history. And some of the zombie makeup in the classic Dawn of the Dead was so evocative it made cast members physically sick. Really? Because I've seen it. Well, I've seen parts of it. Well, back in the day that probably terrified them. Okay. They didn't have the internet. Okay, fine. Fine. And then one of my favorites, and it's the last one, A Law in Haiti makes it a criminal offense to turn someone into a zombie. Article 249 dictates that if someone drugs another person, buries them as though they were dead, and then digs the person up and brings them back to life, it is still considered murder. Wow. Well, you know what? It's good to know. I'm glad we have that information. It's got to go to the walls. It's against the law. We don't do it. So don't bring me back. If you're thinking about doing it. But yeah, those were some fun facts that I found about zombies. What about you? We're doing some, because I know you want to go on about some movies and some shows, right? You know what's funny? I originally was like, oh, I'll just do a few, and then the few turned into like... Ten? Twelve. Yeah. That sounds about right. This is up your alley. I just kept going and going. Are you surprised that I actually have a suggestion? A little bit. I think I know what you're going to say. Is it a comedy? No. Shaun of the Dead is great. I thought you were going to do that. I love Shaun of the Dead, but no. I never saw the movie, but I read the book in college, and I loved it. Is it the same book I read? World War Z. No, it is not. So I read World War Z. Loved it. And I haven't seen the movie, but I heard... There's one thing I didn't like, but, you know, I'm being a little picky here, because in the book, it's a guy going around taking history, because this event happened ten years earlier, but apparently in the movie it's happening in real time. Right, yeah. That I didn't know. The way they describe it... Ugh. The book is brilliant. The book is so good. As someone who's not even like a zombie fan, doesn't really care too much... Yeah, you don't really like the horror genre. Oh, World War Z. Ugh. It was a fabulous book. Even if you don't like books, I think it's such an easy read for anyone to enjoy. Because I know... I never finished it, but I have the zombie survival guide. Oh, no, you didn't finish it. Well, I bought it in case that we would ever need it. Yeah. I mean, I... And then, I do have... Actually, I do have some more book recommendations, too, but I'll add that to my list. So, one of my favorites is Warm Bodies. I've heard of it. That is a great, great book. Because... And there is the movie, but the book is so, so, so much better. Because it's interesting, as well, because it was like the zombie apocalypse happened, and then people were kind of holed up, and then there are all these zombies wandering around, but when a zombie eats a brain, he gets their memories. So, it's kind of like a zombie, but he gets to experience their memories. And so, he takes a bite out of this one guy, and then he falls in love with the guy's girlfriend because he gets memories of her. And so, then he sees her, and then he helps her, and then she teaches him kind of like how to be human. So, it's kind of like a love story, but... Interesting. It's really, really good. I loved it. I read that years ago, so I would love to reread it, but let's see. Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies. I've heard. I've seen that. That was fun. I remember, yeah. I've seen that movie, too, but the book was really interesting. And one of my favorite lines, it's whenever a carriage burns or catches fire, and she's killing zombies, and then she goes, God shows us no mercy, and neither shall we. And I was like, ah! It was just great, but Pride, Prejudice, and Zombies, especially if you're wanting an old classic with a twist. That's a good one. Absolutely. Isn't there one called Abraham Lincoln and Zombies, or Lincoln and Zombies? I think there is. I think so, too. Well, wait. Is it a... I know it's a movie. I think it's a book, too. I think it is a book, too. And then there's also Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters. Oh, no. I didn't know that one. I didn't read that one, but it looked fun. So, yeah, those are some books. I was going to try to do my foot, but never mind. That's all good. I'm going to get into... And this is technically, I think, based on a book, but it's a miniseries. It's from 2021. It's on Netflix, and it's called Brand New Cherry Flavor. No. I have no idea what that is. I'm just going to give a basic summary. Okay. So, because it's a miniseries, and it's Lisa Nova is an aspiring film director in the sun-drenched but seamy world of 1990s Los Angeles, embarks on a mind-altering journey of supernatural revenge that gets nightmarishly out of control. I would really like it if you could watch it, because there are some scenes where you're going to be like, what the hell am I watching, because this is so fucked up. So, Brand New Cherry Flavor has a lot of zombie elements in it. Okay. Maybe not a lot, but there are some zombie elements in it. So, weird, weird trip. So, you're going to think you're on acid. Not that I would know. But then there's also Zombieland from 2009. That one's always a good one. Oh, that's a great film. That's a fun one. That is a fun one. It's a good comedy. Twinkies. Yes. Number 17, Double Tap. Oh, yeah. Double Tap. It's such a great... And Bill Murray. Bill fucking Murray, man. It's Woody Harrelson, Justy Eisenberger, Emma Stone, Abigail Breslin. That's one of my favorites. That's a fun one. That is a lot. That is a very well done movie. Oh, gosh. Night of the Living Dead. I put the 1968 version. That's a good classic to watch. It's in black and white. So, no color. Don't you dare yawn on me. I didn't mean to. Dawn of the Dead, 2004. I got the 2004 one. Okay. Because I like there's this one scene where they're... To pass the time, they're on top of the mall. And I'll even give you a little Dawn of the Dead brief summary for those who don't know what it's about. But basically, it's all of these zombie... They're running from zombies and they go to a mall for shelter. And so, that's the premise of it is just living with all these people as they're zombies crowding around the mall. And so, they're on top of this mall and then they're playing a game where they have all the guns. And they're like naming... They're doing like name a celebrity. One of them is Burt Reynolds and they shoot a guy that looks like Burt Reynolds. Oh. I don't know. It's to pass the time. It's to pass the... Oh, a zombie that looks like Burt Reynolds. A zombie that looks like Burt Reynolds. Sorry, I thought you meant a human. No. No, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to clarify that. Okay. So, 28 Days Later. I like that film a lot. I love that film. I've heard it's very good but very frightening with how realistic it can be. Yeah. Because Cillian Murphy is in it. It's one of his early films. I'm not going to say... Before he... It's in the early 2000s, isn't it? Yeah, it is in 2002, baby. Damn. That was the film that really put him on the map, I believe. Yeah. And that is a great film. I believe it's by Danny Boyle. And... Hold on. I want to make sure I got it right. Yeah. Damn, I'm good. And it's four weeks after a mysterious incurable virus spreads throughout the UK. A handful of survivors try to find sanctuary. It is the graphic, but it's just so good because you can definitely see how people change when there's a zombie apocalypse. And then, you know, they just... So, it's... And yeah, no. It definitely painted a real picture. So, it can be... I think even Caitlin was like, okay, this is freaking me out too much. Yeah. But I like that movie a lot. I keep meaning to want to watch Cargo. Did you watch that one? Mm-mm. I did not. It's on Netflix. It's on my list. And it's basically... It's the story of after an epidemic spreads all over Australia, a father searches for someone willing to protect his daughter because he got bitten and he has only a limited amount of time to find somebody to look after his infant daughter. Oh, shit. And so, he's just doing all he can to find her somewhere to go before he turns. And it's Martin Freeman, isn't it? Oh, yeah. And it looks so good. I mean, it looks sad, but it looks like... Yeah, it looks depressing. It looks like a drama, but it does look like a very... You know what? I just want to watch it. Okay. You watch that tonight while you pack for vacation. We'll see. I have more, so don't you dare yawn at me. I did. I saw it. So, and this one was the one that came out in 2016, and it's called Train to Busan. And it's while a zombie virus breaks out in South Korea, passengers struggle to survive on the train from Seoul to Busan. And I've heard good things about this, haven't watched it, but there's that one. And then another one I think really plays into our theme is The Serpent and the Rainbow. And that one is from the 80s, has Bill Pullman in it. And I'm going to read the synopsis from that one as well. That's from 1988, like I said. And it's an anthropologist goes to Haiti after hearing rumors about a drug used by black magic practitioners to turn people into zombies. And I believe that is a Wes Craven film. It is. It's directed by Wes Craven. So, you know, it plays into what we were talking about earlier with the tetratoxins, I believe. Yeah. So, that looks good. I am legend. I'm throwing that one out there from 2007 with Will Smith. People always seem to love that. I never saw it. I watched part of it. Of course, it was getting depressing because he had to kill his dog. I heard, yeah. And I was like, I can't watch this. I can't. I can't. There was World War Z, which you mentioned, from 2013. Shaun of the Dead, a good comedy from 2004. That's a funny one. That is a good one. And I believe, who were the head actors in that? They're so funny. I can't remember a thing. He also wrote and directed it. He did a lot of it. The main character, Shaun of the Dead. Yeah, Shaun of the Dead. That is going to be Simon Pegg and Nick Froster in it. And so, Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright are the writers of this film. Okay, yeah. And so, that one's a good one. It's the uneventful, aimless lives of a London electronic salesman and his layabout roommate are disrupted by the zombie apocalypse. And so, it's just funny just seeing them react and get through it. Great one. And then, let's see. I have Hashtag Alive on here. Hashtag Alive. I think that's a Netflix film. Hold on. Is it a hashtag or a spell out hashtag? Yeah, no, it's like the Hashtag Alive. So, it's the rapid spread of an unknown infection has left an entire city in ungovernable chaos, but one survivor remains alive in isolation in its story. I think this is the one where the guy is in an apartment building, and he sees a girl cross the way, and he's stuck in his apartment building, I think. It's from 2020, and I believe this is on Netflix. But it looks really like, just imagine, you're stuck in your apartment, and you can't get out kind of vibes. I have some honorable mentions on here, too. But one more I do want to see is called Little Monsters, in which this one looked really like funny, because I think it's supposed to be, I think, hold on. It has Lupita Nyong'o in it, and it has, let's see, I don't know him, Josh Gad in it, and I think she's like a kindergarten, she's a washed up musician teams up with a teacher in a kid's show personality to protect young children from a sudden outbreak of zombies. So imagine, you're a young teacher, you're out on a field trip, and suddenly there's a zombie outbreak, and you're trying to keep the kids calm so they don't go running around screaming into zombies. So you're just like, alright everybody, let's just stay together. So it looks like a zombie, kind of a comedy. Cooties was another fun one, and that one is a mysterious virus hits an isolated elementary school, transforming the kids into these feral zombies, and it has Elijah Wood and Rainn Wilson in it. That one's actually, it's funny, it's entertaining. That's from 2014. And then I will say, honorable mentions I have on here is Army of the Dead from 2021. I fell asleep. Oh really? So is that really an honorable mention? I'm going to mention it because you, people may like, probably love that movie. I fell asleep. And there are, I've tried rewatching it, and I'm not saying there isn't any good elements to it, but it's basically following a zombie outbreak in Las Vegas, a group of mercenaries take the ultimate gamble, venturing into quarantine zone to pull off the greatest heist ever. So they're going in there to get, I think, this vault that's full of like money, or there's more to it, but Dave Bautista is in it, and it's directed by Zack Schneider, and then they also did Army of Thieves, which is like a prequel to it, which I haven't watched it. I think I've starred it, but I never finished it. There's too many options. There are so many, and this is a good list, and I mean, literally, I could go on and on, but we digress. Yes, we do. So I'm going to take a break. So those are some good ones that I would recommend, some that are even on my watch list, so absolutely. So I think this is a good time for me to say, for us, not just me, to sign off and say, you know, thank you for listening to us, and please give us a follow on Instagram, where you can find our drink recipes, post new episodes that come out, and check out updates on cocktails, and we appreciate you, and if you could please give us a like, give us a follow, wherever you receive your podcasts, that would be amazing, and let us know how we're doing. We appreciate your time and your ears, especially listening to us ramble on about three times a month. So, with that said, ghouls out! See you next time.