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Tim & Jer are back for Show 2 where they jump back a year from their first show and take a deep dive into May 1978 - at what their 14 year old selves were doing but also the music they were listening to, what was on at the Cinema and TV, and along the way what was happening in the news and in the world of sport Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/zimpzon/calm License code: LTT2QEIWHCQT4IAZ
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Tim & Jer are back for Show 2 where they jump back a year from their first show and take a deep dive into May 1978 - at what their 14 year old selves were doing but also the music they were listening to, what was on at the Cinema and TV, and along the way what was happening in the news and in the world of sport Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/zimpzon/calm License code: LTT2QEIWHCQT4IAZ
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In this episode of Tim and Jerry, they discuss the feedback they received for their pilot episode and possible name changes for the podcast. They acknowledge the suggestion of making their voices sound more enthusiastic while also catering to listeners who use the podcast to fall asleep. They also mention a few name suggestions, such as Tom and Jerry or Terry and Jim. They discuss the difficulty of choosing a name and announce that they will stick with Tim and Jerry for now. They also mention making changes to the background sound and music. They discuss their decision to jump around different years rather than focusing on a specific month. They announce that they will be discussing May 1978 in this episode and briefly mention some news events from that time. Hello and welcome to another episode of Tim and Jerry. This is episode number two. We had the pilot last week and we've had some really good feedback. But let's start with welcomes and introductions. So, as I say, my name's Tim and my name's Jeff or Jerry for the purposes of this. I'm talking kind of like names of this podcast. So, as I say, it's currently called Tim and Jerry and really appreciate all the feedback that we've had from the pilot episode. Most of it largely positive, so thank you for that. Really appreciate it. And thank you very much to the 109 people, as it stands, who've taken the time to listen to it. Really, really appreciate it. It was an hour of your time for those of you that made it all the way through to the 59th minute. Don't many did. Don't many. Well, a few did. A few people have actually kind of sort of said, oh, I made it to the 57th minute, because I think I kind of acknowledge those poor people that have made it to the 57th minute. So, a few people have definitely did listen to it all the way through. So, really, really appreciate that. And a few people have come up with suggestions which we will make some changes. A few recommendations of new names. I'm not totally sure we've got the new name yet. So, with respect to everybody, I think we will stick with Tim and Jerry until a new name kind of comes out. But I will run through a few of the suggestions. My friend Carol, well, she really, really liked it. In fact, she even listened to it twice. One of those 109 actually listened to it twice. But it's not totally flattering. The second time was she felt that our voices actually sent her off to sleep. So, it was a kind of like, there's a kind of like a backhanded compliment there, isn't there? Yeah, I think it was, wasn't it? Yeah, although my friend Bridget kind of equally acknowledged that there is a market for that type of podcast that sends people to sleep. Absolutely. Calm being kind of like the big hitter in that podcast world. So, I think, yeah, there is a market for sending people to sleep. That wasn't the intention of this podcast. And as you know, one of the other bits of feedback was the fact that they want our voices to sound more enthusiastic. So, kind of like we're in a bit of a balance here. We're trying to send people to sleep and we're trying to be enthusiastic. It's quite tricky. It is quite tricky. So, I think probably we'll try and be more enthusiastic. So, apologies to those that didn't think we sounded enthusiastic. But we'll perhaps, we'll tail off and be slightly more chilled at the end to let those people who are listening want to get to sleep, to kind of like to go to sleep. So, appreciate that, Carol. My friend Neha in India, thank you, bless you, lovely telling. Our good friend Dave the Pickle Brampton over in Swansea land. He could be the new smashy and nicey, you know, great. Does a lot of work for charity, doesn't like to talk about it. My friend Joss, one of my oldest friends, old in years, not in age. She's come up with some name suggestions, not entirely sure, bless you, darling, the names. She's suggested Tom and Jerry, which is fundamentally neither of our names. It is, you know, it is, you know, it's still obviously your name doesn't change. Who would be the cat? Who would be the mouse? Well, there you go. And if not Tom and Jerry, Terry and Jim, which I guess is a take on Terry and June. Terry and June, yeah. We get, we move to a point there where that's neither of our names. At least Tom and Jerry is one of our names. Tim and Jerry is loosely. My friend Adrian over in Spain suggested Ben and Jerry, as you mentioned the ice cream last week. And our friend Carol came up with Quick Hunt Through Our Memories, which is, I think that's a kind of like winner, that's a kind of like winner so far. I don't know whether it was intended to be said that way. She's gone Quick, Hunt Through Our Memories. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's, there's some mileage in that. So I think that's, those are the main takeaways, whether that's, you know, that's a possible name change for the future. One of the other kind of takeaways was the background sound, that I made it a little bit too loud because, my apologies, I'm obviously one of the presenters of this, but I'm also the editor of it. So, and it was my first go at editing, so I will knock the background down, background sound down a little and perhaps try a different piece of music in the end. Those people who were trying to say a speech, yeah. Well, exactly, those people. So it's, I think, I can't remember the name of the piece of music that I've chosen for this week, but it's a calming, it's a chill, chill ambience I think was the vibe going on, so hopefully chill, chill ambience. That was certainly the premise of the music, so hopefully that's sending those people off to sleep that require our voices to go off into slumberland. Yep, right, and you can wake up, you can wake up. And the other big takeaway was one of the fundamental kind of parts of this podcast is the fact that we look at a certain month of a certain year, and what we were supposed to be going into this week was April 1979, having looked at March, sorry, March 1979 last week, but to be honest, when we looked at the news of April 1979 and when we looked at the chart of April 1979, the chart hadn't changed a massive amount. If you think back to that time, music stayed around in the chart, you know, the music world is slightly different now, things kind of jumping out of the top 40, kind of having only been in and about for a week or so, but back in the 70s and 80s, things hung around in the chart for quite a long time, they took a long time to rise up to number one and take a long time on the way back down again, and hits that kind of went straight in at number one were a pretty rare thing, you're the expert on these sort of things, what's a good example of it? Well, Slade, back in the early 70s, but in our era it really was The Giant, wasn't it, I think John Underground was the first number one that broke from our era, the Australian number one. But it was a rare thing though, wasn't it? Yeah, it was a very rare thing. But these days, every other week something comes straight in at number one, Taylor Swift will bring something out, Ed Sheeran will bring something out, oh yeah, they wouldn't be familiar, they're kind of modern day combos that you wouldn't be familiar with. So, you know, those kind of things, those artists kind of come straight in at number Anyway, the point of what we're saying is that fundamentally we're not doing April 1979, what we're going forward with is jumping around the years a little bit, which kind of goes back to kind of Carol's name of trawling through the years. So we have jumped and we'll come up with a system whereby we kind of pick the following week's date, you know, at some point we'll come up with some clever fandangled way of doing it. But for this week, we're going with May 1978. And you came up with May 1978. Was there any particular thinking behind why? No, not at all. No, I mean, I had the same feedback as that, which is that people would rather be jumped around rather than followed on to the following month. And so that just came out of my head, really. Yes, the month before the World Cup, maybe I should have gone with June, but I went with May. So no, no real reason for that. But we'll discover how good or bad the month was as we move on through the hour. Yeah. But yeah, May 1978. May 1978. So and I think we'll possibly jump into the early 80s next week. That would be telling. But maybe we won't. Maybe we'll go back further. You know, we can be, you know, this week is sort of the return of Doctor Who. So I think, you know, he jumps forward and backwards in time. So goodness knows we may jump forward. We may jump back even further. We will see. We may even come up with an idea of how we do it at some point during the broadcast. So we will see. But anyway, let us start with May 1978. And as I say, one of the opening things we will do is cover off the news from 1978. So I've got a I've got a little musical sting to introduce the news. So I will go with musical sting. OK, that's our little news sting there. So the news from 1978. Again, it's slightly more cheery news than with last week's news. You know, the March 1979 news was all pretty dire, actually. It was. So I've tried to get a kind of like a bit more of a cross section to come further for this week's one. So the news from May 1978 saw the first commercial spam email sent. Do you know what's meant by spam? You're the technical wizard. I'm the technical wizard, I know. Do you know what spam is? Well, these days, spam is something that's sent in to you that you don't want. You haven't asked for and it's potentially damaging. That's not necessarily the potentially damaging, but yes, stuff that you don't want. Adverts that you don't want or whatever. But yeah, so May 1978 saw the first commercial spam email sent apparently. The Russian leader Brezhnev visited West Germany. I don't think we need to dwell on that. That happened. Obviously, that was before. What was your guy from Baywatch? What was his name? Hasselhoff. Hasselhoff. He brought down the wall, didn't he? He brought down the wall. But yeah, while the wall was still up, Russian leader Brezhnev visited West Germany. Fee Weibel of the Tubes broke his leg falling off stage. Kind of like, we're quietly both big fans of the Tubes, aren't we? Yeah. Yeah, big favourite Tubes song. Oh, it's got to be Prime Time, hasn't it? See, not for me. Don't want to wait any more. But Prime Time would be my second favourite, but yeah. But great name, Fee Weibel. Yeah. They changed the rules on giving hurricanes only female names. So obviously, prior to May 1978, hurricanes were all given female names. OK, didn't know that. That's mildly sexist, but kind of like me, isn't it? But you know, obviously, back in May 1978, they realised that that was sexist and changed it. Somebody called Joy Chitwood drove a Chevette 6.6 miles on two wheels. I don't think, you know, that would be... If we were doing a televisual version of this, that would be quite impressive. It would, yeah. And you see it in action movies quite a bit. But 6.6 miles on two wheels is quite impressive. We take it as read now that kind of like May had two bank holidays. But apparently, May 1978 was the first time we had the initial one. The first that we have what I guess what we call now is May Day. Yeah. It's generally the kind of like the first Monday of May is a public holiday in the UK. But it didn't exist before May 1978. I think we always have the one later in May, the first time we ever saw the first one. And the first one was on the 1st of May 1978, Monday the 1st. Well, there you go. There you go. Yeah, it's possibly because it fell on the 1st. I've got a bit of sports news, but you're going to cover some sports news a bit later on. So I will absolutely. It would be something to do with the FA Cup. It would. But we will come back to that when Ger covers sport a bit later on. And a couple of kind of interesting ones that I didn't know. Apparently, 11 weeks earlier, well, in May 1978, they found Charlie Chaplin's coffin in a field. It had been stolen 11 weeks earlier. Did you know anything about that? No. I'm not. That sounded like I was accusing you there. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, he'd only been 14. So, yeah, apologies if that sounded like I was accusing you. You came to life in the building. Yeah, we've got that on. I don't know. But it's been stolen. I would have thought that would have been a bigger news item. But yeah, so Charlie Chaplin's coffin was stolen 11 weeks earlier and was recovered, found in a field about a mile from where it had been stolen. All very odd. And in final bit of news, David Steele, who kind of largely people probably remember almost from the spitting image character now, which is slightly unfair. But David Steele, who was the Liberal Democrat leader at the time, he announced the dissolution of the Lib-Lab pact. Obviously, I think the Liberals and Labour had formed a coalition, I guess. Well, yeah, I don't know whether, these days we call it a coalition. So I don't know whether it was quite one and the same thing. Again, as time goes on, you'll realise that me and Ger know absolutely diddly squat about kind of like these things, or indeed about anything other than music. I know a bit about sport. Yeah, about, yeah. But yeah, he announced the dissolution of their days. They were no longer friends, obviously. I can't remember. No, Owen. David Owen, yeah. But he was a Liberal Democrat as well. He was, yeah. So yeah, it was clearly one of the two of them. And obviously we talked in 1979 last week about it being Jim Callaghan, so it's probably Jim Callaghan. I don't know. I'm speaking as if this is kind of factual knowledge, but let's say that David Steele and Jim Callaghan fell out. I don't rely on anything that we say with regards to politics. I do have an extra news item. Oh, go for it. That Tim doesn't know about, and that's on the 24th of May, the iconic skateboarding duck first appeared on BBC One's Nationwide. I've got that. I've got that. That was going to be in my TV item. I've only got three items as TV, and you've stolen that. I've got iconic skateboarding duck first aired on Nationwide. Now, Nationwide, for those people of this modern time, Nationwide is very much the kind of like the 1970s equivalent of what The One Show is now. The One Show, yeah. It's kind of like that's your modern day equivalent. It was a kind of like a nightly, light-hearted kind of news item, where it would somehow have some heavy news and some kind of... Yeah, it was just like The One Show, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. Where you suddenly get a kind of a sudden kind of emergency stop, and they'll have a very sad item, and then a kind of like a light item. Yeah, there was an iconic skateboarding duck. Not that iconic, because I can't actually picture it. No, no, I'm trying to remember the presenters. There was a Bob Wellings. There was Sue Lawley, as in the police song. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Michael Barrett, he was the main man, wasn't he? He was your main guy. Yeah. He was your main guy. Not Shepard Stevens. I can picture him. He was also called Michael Barrett. Is he? See, you're all about the factual information. All about the factual information. So that was the news from 1978, and an extra little bit about the iconic skateboarding duck. But what were we doing? Let's refer to your diary and find out what we were doing. Okay, so May 78, I tend to remember as being quite a sunny month, but I suppose it's spring going into summer. And I know for one, I was looking forward to the World Cup, which is coming up in June. And so, yeah, I was doing my first World Cup, that was going to be really sort of live long in my memory. I did remember the 74 one, but 78 was the one that I think was a little longer in my memory. So I was looking forward to that. I think I played a lot of cricket. Now I say, I use the word play very loosely. I still do play cricket, but I use the word play very loosely. We were, as in 79, we were attending choir practice on a Friday, but we were going to youth group three nights a week. I can't remember what we said last week, but the Sunday was usually the night of the biblical content, and the Tuesday and Saturday were the social nights, the fun nights. Saturdays were usually a lot of fun. And there was one particular Saturday in 1978. It was Saturday the 20th of May, where we went on a treasure hunt. Oh, we used to love a treasure hunt. We used to love a treasure hunt, absolutely. And all my diary actually says is that I went around with my mate Simon, and we came fourth out of seven. And she's just under halfway, so I suppose that's not too bad. But yeah, those Saturday nights were really good, and it would only be, you know, something extraordinary that I would actually write what it actually was that we did. So that Saturday, we were on a treasure hunt. I don't know what the five were, I don't even know where we went. So that would have been a walking treasure hunt? It would have been a walking treasure hunt, yeah. Any of us could have driven, so. Yeah, no, not without falling in time. Some absolutely top news for me at the time, and it wouldn't have been for you, mate, was on Saturday the 13th of May, I went and got a new watch. And you're going to say it's the same one I'm wearing now, and it probably is. It probably is, yeah. No, it is, yeah, it's of its time. It would have been a Casio digital watch, the same one I'm wearing now. Yeah, yeah. So I thought I'd say that before you did. Is it actually the same one? Is it? No, definitely not. It's probably a similar one. But I think you've just continued to rebuy the same kind of watch. Yeah, it's a classic. Yeah, so, yeah, I also had quite a few nights, it must have been quite sunny, where it says that I slept out, meaning slept on the lawn in a tent, and Simon used to come to my house and we would sleep over. And it was just, I say, the time we were just getting used to, or making our way in our lives and, yeah, just establishing relationships, friendships and stuff. And, yeah, I used to have a really good time with Simon, and we used to spend a lot of time together. Yeah. It was a good month. Cricket was starting to loom large in my life, as I said. But, yeah, it was a good time. Yeah, absolutely. And when we recorded the first one, actually, it was, without being too modern, was the anniversary of his loss. It was, yeah. Which we didn't really want to kind of acknowledge on the first one, but let's give a dedication. We'll dedicate episode number two to our old friend Simon. So, yeah, Simon used to live opposite Ger, and formed a huge part of our lives. And we're still good friends with his family, and most specifically his sister, who was part of our youth club, and we're still very good friends with Maria, who gave us lots of good feedback. So she's a sweetheart. One last thing I must mention, Tim, I was playing a lot of Sibutio at that time. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sibutio football mainly, but also Sibutio cricket and Sibutio rugby. I know that in the summer of 78, Sibutio football was played a lot, probably due to the World Cup being played. So, yeah, I was really getting into my Sibutio. I've played Sibutio football back in the day, broke many a player, but did Sibutio cricket and whatever, they didn't take off in the same way? They didn't take off in the same way. It was only Sibutio nuts that used to get the whole thing. I even got a Sibutio 5 a side set, which was Sibutio in a box, really, a very small version. But, yeah, I ended up getting a lot of the staff, the stands, and the floodlights, and the managers, and the cameramen, and stuff like that. Trouble was, they got in the way when you were playing the game. Yeah, you had to leave. Yeah, it's quite strange that. I have tried to introduce Sibutio to my kids over the years, and it obviously is too far, too slow-moving, because they've played FIFA and stuff like that. Don't, yeah. To have a game that's, you know... A slightly different ball world. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, so they haven't enjoyed it in anywhere near as much as I did. It was of its time. I think it was, but it is still played now. Yeah. It is still played now. There are still leagues going on across the world, but in the 70s, certainly in the 80s, I think probably the height of Sibutio, you were getting Sibutio World Cups quite literally all around the world. I'm assuming you had a set of red players, and if they come in, you could get your arsenal team. Oh, you could get everything you wanted to get, yeah, more or less. And some teams doubled up. So, yeah, if you had a black and white strike team, it could be the Avengers or Newcastle. So, yeah, they had so many accessories at the time, and, you know, sad people like me bought a lot of them. And, yeah, I really, really enjoyed it. So, that was looming large. I think I probably started playing that in about 76, 77. So, by 78, I was well entered into Sibutio. And I'm not bad at it, actually, if I say it myself. Yeah, I've got no reason to believe that you were. So, yeah, I'm assuming if, you know, one week we'll see if Sibutio works on a podcast. I can't entirely say. That would be good, wouldn't it? Yeah, we'll just do a little kind of flick, saying, oh, I won, I won. Flick the kick. Yeah. Okay, well, that covered off what we were doing. Was there anything else that we need to kind of, like, cover off of what we were doing? I don't think so. I think most of it will be covered under other items. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the months where we had a progressive supper. Yeah. I used to love a progressive supper. Yeah. Which was sort of a bit like a treasure hunt. It was just kind of like you'd go to somebody's house for... Each course. Yeah, for each course. I used to forget sometimes, before I left home. Yeah. And then it became a little bit like Vicar of Dibley having three Christmas dinners then, didn't it? Yeah. But yeah, we like to progressive supper. We do. There were some houses that were better to go to than others. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. I think we came to my house once, and that was it. Yeah. Yeah, we're not going to necessarily name and shame... No, we won't, but... The best houses to go to. Yeah. Right, we are, what, 25 minutes in, for those that are looking to try and get to sleep. So it's, you know, you've got half an hour to kind of write. So we will... Well, hopefully we're sounding suitably enthusiastic at the moment, and we will get down into kind of like mellow late night tones towards the end. But we're now at the point where we're going to start looking at the chart. Now we're going to kick off with the chart going from 40 to 21. So we'll split it up like we did last week, and we'll look at the chart from 40 to 21. But we'll be able to kind of reinforce it. I think you've also got the radio... Something from Radio 1 there as well. Playlists from May 1978. So all the songs that were on each episode at the top of the box. And some of those won't be on your chart. Right, yeah, okay. So, yeah, we can intermingle this, but with some of the actual stuff that was hitting the airwaves as well. But, so yeah, May 1978. Number 40, we have the Rolling Stones with Miss You. It was a new one to the top 40. Do I have to read it? Do I have to read it? I don't think you have to. I think you have to. I don't think you have to. I don't think you have to. I don't think you have to. I don't think you have to. It was a new one to the top 40. Do I know that? I'm sure I do know that. Yeah, it was their sort of delve into disco. It was really massive in the summer. Yeah, I probably can picture it. Two or three. Yeah. So, yeah, it was a huge, huge summer. Yeah. And at 39, Coco with Bad Old Days. That was our Eurovision entry that year. Ah, right. We're going to talk Eurovision after we've done this chart. Well, yeah, I am. Well, you are going to be a little bit, because I'm going to ask you questions. Oh, right, okay. Because, so you are going to get involved. It's not just going to be me watching. So, Coco, Bad Old Days. Was that a good Eurovision or bad Eurovision? It was all right, yeah. Yeah. It was a hard bit of time. It was sort of sing-alongy. And I've got a feeling that the two people in there were also in another Eurovision production. I think quite a few of the years have been in it more than once. I think, I think it's Daryl Cheryl from... Yeah, maybe she was in it, I don't know. She'd been in something before she was in it, yeah. But that was on its way back down. So, Bad Old Days was on its way back down. It obviously didn't kind of win for us. And it dropped back down to 39. But new at 38 was James Galway. You wouldn't get the kind of things, you wouldn't get a chart like that. James Galway with Annie's Song. Wonderful song, originally recorded by John Denver. He was just like, I always find James Galway a little bit creepy. I remember my dear old mum used to find, whenever he appeared on shows, whenever he was playing his flute, so he was a flautist. Flautist? Flautist. Which was the one instrument that I ever learned, actually. That's what I learned at school. Along with recording, which we all had to learn. Yeah, we did. But yeah, no, I did play the flute up until grade, whatever the lowest grade is possible to learn it. But James Galway, when he was playing, his eyes flicked about a lot. And it used to, I remember it used to freak my dear old mum out a bit. It was, it was, and when you do, you know, again, if we had kind of like some sort of vision aspect to this show, I'd show you. But yeah, if you ever kind of Google him playing, his eyes flicked about a little bit in a slightly unnatural way. It was, they just flicked about a lot. And it was just, like I said, dear old mum or auntie Joy. I think they were looking to flick us a beauty up there. Maybe they were looking to flick us a beauty up there. Nice link. Nice, nice backwards link there. Right, we're into good songs now. So James Galway was new at 38. Going back down the chart was Sheep. We had some Sheep last week, didn't we? Yeah. This was Everybody Dance. That's just a classic Sheep cover. Again, whatever happened to Nile Rodgers. Whatever happened to Nile Rodgers. Exactly, exactly. And then new, well, I'm sure this is going to be a classic for you. Again, features heavily on, still in my record collection, Blue Oyster Cult, Don't Fear the Reaper. Yeah, it's probably the only song that most people know about Blue Oyster Cult. I can't say I'm massively into Blue Oyster Cult myself. But that song. Yeah, at least they're one that's sort of delved into our charts. And one of those, I play a daily game called Songpop, and it's just one of those classic intros. The game that I play, you have to recognise the intro, and it's just one of those classic, classic, classic intros. But I don't know whether you'd call it a one-hit wonder. You play that one every day. You play that one every day, and you can get it every day. Pretty much every day, yeah. But I don't know, would you call it a one-hit wonder? Probably, yeah, yeah, yeah. And at 35, going back down the chart, the Tom Robinson band, Up Against the Wall. Oh, yeah. Now, you like your Tom Robinson, don't you? I love the Tom Robinson. Saw him in concert here in Corsham last year. Oh, did you? Yeah, yeah, really good. Yeah, that was in the TRB days, Tom Robinson band days. Yeah. 77, 79, 80, something like that. Yeah, that was another one of his really good singles, some punky, new, wavy singles that really, nothing repeated the success of Motorway. Yeah. Apart until he got to War Baby, but yeah, Motorway was the big hit. Actually, yeah, War Baby is, but that was a solo. That was a solo, yeah. But that's a fantastic solo. No, I do like Tom Robinson. Yeah, and he likes you. He does. He does, he often... We had a chat. He often says it, did he? Yeah, we had a chat, him, me and Tom. What, genuine? Yeah. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, he sends his regards. Oh, excellent. Oh, well, that's it. There's a new song in at number 34. Cannot picture it, but you're an expert on these things. Guy Marks with Loving You Has Made Me Bananas. I'm sure that's one you like. It was kind of... I can't picture it at all. It was an oldie, it sang in sort of an old musical way. I don't know, maybe, I don't know. That's the one. Yeah, that's it, yeah. Can't picture it. Um, going back down the chart, Thin Lizzy, Rosalie. Yeah, yeah, I like that. I think that was a live version. Right, okay. Thin Lizzy, Live and Dangerous. It's no Boise Back in Town, but it's a good... It's a Bob Seger song, written by Bob Seger. Is it, is it? That would have been a Bob Seger. Reasonably sized hit for Thin Lizzy. Right, okay. And then at number one, Brian and Michael with Matstalk Men and Matstalk Cats and Dogs. Yeah. About Larry, about the artist Larry. Wasn't a big fan, I have to say. That's very much your kind of novelty record. And very much your one hit wonder. But yeah, it was kind of sort of brass band, you know. Yeah, not, less said about that the better. But you know, that was kind of what the 70s was all about. There was a lot of real, you know, those last songs that we talked about. We've got Tom Robinson, Thin Lizzy, Brian and Michael. You know, the songs were all over the shop. But you know, that's where the variety came from. And in New at 31 was David Soul with It Sure Brings Out the Love in Your Eyes. Yeah, I am a big fan of his acting and his singing. Yeah. I met him once in Theatre Royal at Bath. Did you? Like you are, Geoff. It's a drop in those names, isn't it? Clang, clang, clang. Yeah, he died, I think, earlier in this year. Yeah, I was going to say, quite recently, isn't it? But yeah, matched the line for his singing. But I mean... But he had a couple of classics. Yeah, two number ones and probably about half a dozen hit singles in total. Yeah. And a couple of really good albums. Yeah. So the big hits Don't Give Up On Us and Silver Ladies. From a few years previously. Yeah. Good voice, really good voice, to be honest. He does suffer from bad press for other reasons. But yeah, no, I'm a big fan of David Soul. And he's an Arsenal fan as well. He was an Arsenal fan as well. Was he really? Yeah, he lived in London towards the end of his long term. Oh, okay. A dual nationality, I think. Yeah, well, fair play, fair play. So that was in at 31 for David Soul. We mentioned this fellow last week, but he was rising up the chart again. Elvis Costello and the Attractions, Pump It Up. Yeah, that was second or third hit, I would imagine, Pump It Up. Yeah, because we were talking Oliver's Army last week, weren't we, in 79. As I say, we're a year before, kind of like that now. But yeah, Elvis Costello, Pump It Up. And then a personal kind of fave of mine, Manhattan Transfer. On a little street in Singapore. Now, I was a big fan of Man Tram. Me too. Favourite song? Favourite Man Tram song? I'd say probably, I don't know. Yeah, that was kind of like... That was the 1980s. That was kind of like them going quite kind of poppy. Yeah. Poppy, weren't they? This was a good album. This came from Bastille, didn't it, on a little street in Singapore? It did, because, yeah. You Can Love and Where Did Our Love Go and stuff like that. They did a double A side with Where Did Our Love Go, because I have to say, the other double A of Where Did Our Love Go was, I'm sure on the tip of your tongue, Je Voulais Te Dire. Oh, yeah, yeah. Aton, he sounded terribly multilingual. And, yeah, that was, I have to say, that was my personal fave. Yeah, they're kind of known for their number one, their Chanson d'Amour, but I prefer... Yeah, yeah, no, but overlook it. You know, it's one of those bands that if you put on a... If you went onto Spotify and stuck in Manhattan Trams, it's one of those, you know a lot more songs than you think you do. It's one of those kind of like... I think we're at multi-level, so they're really beautiful songs. Yeah, yeah. Just kind of a sort of an... If you've not ever discovered Manhattan Trams, lots of musical styles, they're, you know, kind of, I don't know, largely an a cappella band, right? Yeah, they kept the band in their style. Yeah, totally. Yeah, the Chanson d'Amour was probably a very, I don't know, very smooth, that sound. Yeah, and I suppose on a little street in Singapore was a similar-ish type thing to Chanson d'Amour, wasn't it? But, you know, like you say, things like Twilight Zone and whatever, that's a complete departure from that. So, that was number 29 on a little street in Singapore. Then we got a few kind of like funky type songs over the next two. Staying at the same position it was, it had been the previous week, Sham 69, Angels With Dirty Faces. Yeah, I was never a massive Sham 69 fan. No, I don't know. I think that was more for a fan that I like the singles. So, Hershey and Boyz, United, stuff like that. And yeah, this wasn't one of their biggest hits. I don't think Angels With Dirty Faces, but 78 was probably their biggest year. Yeah, yeah. And then let's kind of like rush through the next one. X-Ray Specs, The Day The World Turned Day Glow. Oh, sorry. That was on its way back down the chart. And then we've got a personal favourite and one of my dear old late brother, Davies On The Road Again by Manfred Mann's Earthband. We were kind of like... So, Manfred Mann had been... They'd been big in the 60s as Manfred Mann, with Do Our Diddy and The Mighty Quinn and that sort of thing. And so, they'd kind of reinvented and put the likes of Paul Jones had left. And so, this was Manfred Mann's Earthband. So, this was their second incarnation. You had Paul Thompson singing this. Yeah, but you had some wonderfuls. California. New Angel U. New Angel U. But yeah, this was new in this week. So, Davies On The Road Again. Yeah, Joybringer, which was based on... And it was the whole planet, wasn't it? Classical. Yeah, yeah. Blankets Were Being Terribly Cold. There's me speaking French right now. Yeah. Well, there you go. You know, a friend of mine went to Seabury Springs, do you want me to send you one? No, don't bring that up again. I wasn't jealous. No, no, absolutely. You didn't mention that. Apologies, Dave. I should have rendered that one. Sorry. Let's cover off 25 through to 21. She's So Modern at 25 for The Boontown Rats. Anything you want to say about that? That was early Boontown Rats. Yeah, this was The Boontown Rats. Yeah, they've got all the albums, actually. Yeah. But yeah, they were a great sort of band full of energy. I don't know if they've ever gone on to do other things. Although, I'm glad that The Rats were reformed five or six years ago. Sort of doing the old festival circuit. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, mainly known for the two number ones. But yeah, things like Clockwork and Diamond Smiles. And yeah, they're some really good singles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Rats are clapping, obviously. They don't like numbers, so they put them on the map, really. Michael Zeger Band, Let's All Chant. It was on its way back down. That was at 24. Just a good disco song. If it's not one that immediately springs to mind, I'd say it's one that you probably know. Yeah. Without necessarily kind of knowing, I think it still gets the odd bit of air playing there, doesn't it? Going up this week, although I'm sure it didn't stay around to come to light too long, Rod Stewart and the Scottish World Cup Squad, Olé! Olá! Yeah, I think it did hang around for a while. Did it? Did it? It doesn't sound like a classic, to be honest, you know. But there has been the odd decent... I thought the song was good. Delametri did a crack in Scottish World Cup. I thought the song was good. It wasn't bad. I mean, I'm a Rod fan as well, so yeah, it was okay. It's not a high bar, is it? I don't think you've done it in concert since, actually. No, no, no. Right, let's cover off 22 and 21. I'm guessing that 22 was probably a Eurovision. Izar Cohen and the... on the alphabet, it was Abi Nabi. Yeah, of the Israeli entry, I think. Oh, yeah. I think it won. Did it win, yeah. Which is why we'll be in the chart again. And on its way back down was It Makes You Feel Like Dancing by Rose Royce. Yeah, one of their more forgettable songs, I would say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it'd obviously been higher in the chart. So that was 40 through to 21. Anything that you want to add extra to what we said as far as what was on radio one at a time? I want to mention a few songs there on the top of the playlist for the first two weeks of the month that you haven't mentioned. There's a song by two guys called Richard Denton and Martin Cook, and it was a theme from Hong Kong Beat. Do you remember Hong Kong Beat? Absolutely no idea. It was a police program, obviously based at the name of just in Hong Kong. Don't think it was too memorable. Just below that, we've got D.D. Jackson, Automatic Lover. Do you not remember that one? No, no. All right, I can't tell if I think about that. You're not, but no. Correct. That was there as well. And the last one was the first chart hit, as far as I know, for one of our favorites, Swede, Take Me on Wheels. Take Me on Wheels, yes. Not literally, but yeah. Absolutely, kind of, yeah. Cracking song. So yeah, Raffaella Cara, Do It Again. That was hanging around in the charts. And I'll leave it there because I'm not sure what you've got coming up in the... Oh no, one more I won't mention. It's Guys and Dolls. We loved a bit of Guys and Dolls. Guys and Dolls, yeah. And Bruce Forsythe's daughter was in Guys and Dolls. That's right, yeah. I think we saw her in Guys and Dolls as well. They were, yeah, both of them. Terese Lunday and Therese Bizarre. Yeah, absolutely. Therese is on... she's on my Facebook. What a name dropping you are. You've been dropping names, haven't you? I have, it's all right, yeah. Therese Bizarre, Tom Robinson. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's all... it's a proper playlist, isn't it? Yeah. Although I've got Jay from Buck's Fears, or The Fears. That's, you know... I haven't got many on my Facebook. You haven't even got Facebook, no. One of these days we'll drag you into the 21st century. Right, I've got you a sports sting. You don't know what a sting is, but I've got you a sports sting. So get your sport ready because I'm going to fling to what we call a sting. So, sting. Okay, sport from 1978. The first thing I will mention is a very sad event for me, which is the FA Cup Finals from 1978, which took place on the 6th of May, Saturday 6th of May 1978. And that was my beloved Arsenal, reached Wembley for the first time since 1972. And they were playing Ipswich Town, who I believe were in the second division at the time, Arsenal were H1 favourites. It was a gorgeous day. I remember watching it at home with Simon, and yeah, we lost. I was really, really unhappy. 1-0. 1-0. 1-0. 1-0, yes. Roger Osborne's goal on the 77th minute was the deciding goal, the only goal of the game. Any relation to our friends there? I don't think so. I don't think so. Just to mention a few players on both sides there, just to sort of prick a few memories. Arsenal, Pat Jennings, Pat Rice, Sammy Nelson, David Price, David O'Leary, Willie Young, Liam Brady, the legend that is, and Sunderland, Malcolm McDonnell, Frank Stapleton, Alan Hudson, Lorraine Ricks. And for Ipswich, Paul Cooper, George Burley, Nick Mills, Brian Talbot, who later played for Arsenal, Tom Hunter, Kevin Beattie, Roger Osborne, John Walke, Paul Mariner, who also later played for Arsenal, David Geddes, Nick Llanbert, who was the sub. Managers were Bobby Robson, Sir Bobby Robson at Ipswich, and Terry Neal was the Arsenal manager. Yeah, a very disappointing day, but in those days, the FA Cup Final was the most important game of the year, and it was the only one, or one of the only ones, that was live on television. And the build-up would begin early in the morning, and you would watch the coaches, Hedda Wembley. And in fact, from my diary from 1978, I was watching Swap Shop and Grandstand before the actual programme itself. And I remember that, and I'm sure lots of you who are my sort of age remember that in those days, they would have the fans playing knockout games against each other and question the score and things like that, so. You're right, you're right, it was a big deal. If you're a football fan, it was a huge deal. Yeah, but I think even as I'm not particularly a football fan, but it would draw you in, a bit like the Grand National. It's not quite such a big deal on the TV these days. But the FA Cup Final was a huge thing. All of the, like you say, all of the morning programmes would be devoted to it, and it was a build-up to the big games. It's one of those games that, even if you didn't like football, a lot of people still watched it. But of course, these days, almost every top game is on television, so it's nothing like the important event that it was, sadly, in my opinion. On May the 10th, Liverpool beat Bruges with the European Cup pilot Wembley. In those days, Liverpool would win the European Cup, which is the Champions League equivalent, and quite frankly, a Kenny Dalglish goal gave them a victory against Bruges at Wembley. So yeah, well done, Liverpool. The cricket that was going on in 1978, there were two tours of this country. One was by New Zealand, and the other one was by Pakistan. Pakistan, I think, came first in May, and then New Zealand came over later in the year. So the results of the cricket were, there were two one-day internationals in May. We're only covering May, so that's all I'm going to talk about. Both won by England. They won the first one at Old Trafford by 132 runs, and they won the second one, which was at the Oval by 94 runs. David Garris scored 114 in that game. So two one-day internationals were both won by England, and the test series that followed in June, of course, and July was also won by England, and then that followed New Zealand coming across to the shores later in the summer. Lastly, on the sport front for you, I'm just going to cover the two Formula One Grand Prix that were held in, a bronze Prix that were held in May 1978, and the first one was the Monaco Grand Prix, and that was on the 7th of May, and that was won by Patrick Tapalier, driving a Tyrrell, and it may very well have been the six-wheeled Tyrrell. I'm not sure. That was around that time that it was racing. Patrick Tapalier, who won the Monaco Grand Prix on May the 7th, and the only other Grand Prix in May was on the 21st of May, and that was at the old Zolder circuit in Belgium, and that was won by Mario Andretti driving a Lotus, and so that was the days of our drivers. The main drivers would have been James Hunt, so you had drivers like Carlos Waterman, Juan Ekinson, Patrick Tapalier, Gilles Villeneuve, Pedro Zoni. Yeah, so it was quite a star-studded field at that point in time, and I have to say, I did follow Formula One at the time as well, and don't so much these days. It's a bit of a procession, I'm not concerned, but yeah, so that's your sport for the month of May. Cool, thank you very much indeed, and I've just looked at the time. We've got a lot to fit in in the remaining 13 minutes, so I'm going to cramp up the speed here. Not cramp up the speed, that makes no sense whatsoever. I was going to try and get your thoughts on this week's Eurovision, but any thoughts that you can keep clean within 10 seconds? No. No, okay. It wasn't a classic year for Eurovision, but I am going to jump straight to a Eurovision quiz, so I've got a sting for that, so let's have Eurovision quiz sting. You'll be fine, you'll be fine. Okay, because I think it's worth pointing out that Gerry's, how many times have you won Popmaster? Two. Two, you know, that's, you know, I haven't won it once, so you know, it's, you know, I think that's, so back in the days when Ken Bruce was doing Radio 2, so you haven't won it since he's been moved to Greatest Hits, have you? No, I've not entered it. No, but anyway, Eurovision quiz, this is quick fire, because we need to ramp up the speed. Okay, I think you'll be fine, don't worry, you're looking at me quite panicked. Olly Alexander represented the UK this year, but what's the name of the song? Was it Ditsy, Dreamy, Dizzy or Drunk? Dizzy. Dizzy, there we go, quite right. Which Irish performer is the only person to win Eurovision three times, twice as a singer and once as a songwriter? I've got four choices, but I think you'll get it anyway. Johnny Logan. Didn't need to give you the other answer. You might need the other answers here. Which UK city hosted the Eurovision song contest in 1998? Do you need the choices? Birmingham. It was Birmingham. Okay, so it's three out of three. How many points did the UK give to ABBA in 1974? None. Quite right. Which of these countries have never won Eurovision? You're obviously going to need them. So it's, your choices are Denmark, Croatia, Luxembourg, the Netherlands. Which country has never won Eurovision? I'm going to guess and say Denmark. Oh, you've got it wrong. It's Croatia. Croatia have never won. They came close this year. Damn good song, they came second this year. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. With a song that had Tim in it. So, Rim, Tim, something, something. So, it'd be why they didn't win the Eurovision. Well, it would have probably killed it. Who presented the UK's points at Eurovision this year? Was it Catherine Tate, Joanna Lumley, Amanda Holden or Maya Jama? No idea, didn't watch it. Take a guess. Joanna Lumley. Oh, good guess. It was Joanna Lumley, yeah. What is the maximum duration for a Eurovision song? Three minutes. Three minutes, there you go. Who was the UK's commentator before Graham Norton? Again, I don't think I need to give you any answers now. Yeah. Before 2020, that was obviously cancelled because of a worldwide pandemic, but before 2020, how many times has Eurovision been cancelled? I wouldn't be aware of any time. There you go. Well, I'll take it as zero, then. It has never been cancelled. And I think this is the final one. How many times has the UK scored a null point at Eurovision? Three. Darn close, two. Okay, there we go, there we go. That was your Eurovision quiz. I'm happy with that. Yeah, no, I think you take it. You know, that was very much kind of like guess what we were on. So, before we cover off the last bit of music, let's cover off TV and cinema. So, Ger mentioned on the TV, we had apparently the iconic skateboarding duck that neither of us can really remember, but apparently it was iconic. The Incredible Hulk debuted on the telly. Was that one of your faves? Yeah. Bill Bixby, Lou Ferrigno? You know, it's a classic of our time. But yeah, that debuted on, I guess, ITV back in the day. And The Godfather apparently debuted on TV across two nights, and it's a particularly long film. They obviously split it across two nights. Generally, things on the TV, I've kind of flicked across the things that were kind of playing on the TV at the time. Things on the TV. Think of a number, which was Johnny Ball, for those people that are familiar with Zoey Ball. Zoey Ball, her dad was Johnny Ball. Really? He was, well, he's still with us, isn't he, Johnny? Still rocks up on, very regularly, if they do a programme about the 70s or 80s, Johnny's generally there. But it was all about kind of like making maths more accessible. Call My Bluff, that was a kind of like, you know, that was a programme for your parents, right? It was, yes. Yeah, yeah. George and Mildred, which was an offshoot of what show? I'm going to go with that. Do you know what, Man About the House, it was kind of like, I'm full of trivia like this, Man About the House spawned two further sitcoms. George and Mildred, what was the other one? Yeah. Robin's Nest. Okay. The Little and Large Show and the Dick Emery Show, I've got written down here as well. So, yeah, that was what we were watching on TV. And at the cinema, we've got some classics at the cinema. Let's go from number five. Now, number five, I think very much plays into what we will talk about in the final few minutes of the top 20, because number five was Saturday Night Fever, which was very much dominated. It was very much the album of the time. It was the number one album for the whole of May, 78. Yeah, and spawned a number of singles, which you will see in the top 20. That was at number five at the cinema, if you were taking your lady friend to the cinema. Lady friend? Lady friend. I don't know, I'm ready old now. Whoever you were walking out with at the time, courting. Number four was Star Wars. Whatever happened to that? That obviously disappeared from that trace, didn't it? No, not very successful. But number four was Star Wars. Number three, I don't know if we can say too much about it, is The Stud. The soundtrack. Was it? Was it? Joan Collins getting her piss off. I guess it probably looks terribly tame these days, but at the time it was terribly racy, wasn't it? It was written by her sister, Jackie Collins. But yeah, it's, yeah. Almost soft porn, I guess you'd call it these days. Then at number two, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. That classic Steven Spielberg. He obviously disappeared without a trace, Mr. Spielberg. But a fantastic film, quite long from what I can remember. And then they made a further version of it, I think, where they extended it even further. But it's a fantastic film. And given the fact that we've got Star Wars, Saturday Night Fever and Close Encounters in that top five, I find it almost amazing that the number one was Pete's Dragon. Not a stellar kind of Disney film. You're looking at me thinking I don't even know the film. It's quite a good soundtrack. And not a classic film. Apart from a dragon, do you know the lady in it? I don't even know the film. I do not know. Helen Reddy. Helen Reddy. You'll be familiar with Helen Reddy. And you may be. A songstress, an Australian songstress. But Pete's Dragon was at number one. So I think we're into the kind of like the final minute. So let us do the top 20. As we say, it's kind of like heavily dominated by what has proved to be that kind of like the number five film around that time of Saturday Night Fever. But let's take it from 20 through to one. At 20, we're nice and steezy with The Stranglers. Love The Stranglers. Love The Stranglers. Did The Stranglers appear last week in the chart? I don't think so. But there is a Bath connection there, isn't there? I'm trying to think. Who was your lead? Joe Strommer. They have been based quite locally to here. They've recorded in Giddegaber Studio. Hugh Cornwell, the ex-lead to The Stranglers, has lived around here. I'm not sure where he lives now. So, yeah. And I think their manager, who's also the designer, the manager of The Wurzels, is local as well. Right. Oh, OK. OK. And then O'Carroll. I've got a few friends who've listened today, so we'll pretend that this is a kind of like a tribute to all the Carrolls. O'Carroll by Smokey is at 19. Andrew Gold at 18. Never Let Her Slip Away. Never Let Her Slip Away. Never Let Her Slip Away. Later covered in the early 90s. Yeah, I like the good versions. The undercover version. Yeah, I do like that. It's different. Yeah, yeah. That's why I like it. As we've always said, if you're going to cover a song, make it different. Yeah. Andrew Gold, Never Let Her Slip Away, 18. Number 17, the instantly forgettable High Tension by High Tension. Yeah. One of their two hits, and it was the unforgettable one. The unforgettable. As is Dee Dee Jackson at 16 with Automatic Lover. That's the one that you mentioned earlier. Yeah, yeah. At 15, you've got Plastic Bertrand. Yeah. Allowing me to bring out the French accent again. My friend, Jill, will appreciate any effort with a French accent. Back in our banking days, if anybody came to our inquiries window looking for foreign currency, me and Jill and Sprout, if he's listening as well, we very much used to exaggerate. Was it Sprout, or was that the surgeon? It's because he had a hair a bit like Sprout. But if we had the excuse to say the phrase Bureau de Change, we would massively exaggerate. Kind of like, what you need is our Bureau de Change. Ah, yeah. So, S'appelant pour moi was our excuse for that. Jack and Jill Radio at 14, On Its Way Back Down, love a bit of that song. That's a bit of a, not a total one hit wonder, but it also had that voice distorting, which I love a bit of that. Going up the chart, Ruby Winters, Come to Me. Yeah, that's instantly forgettable. Instantly forgettable, as was a little bit, oh, Do It Again, you said earlier on, Raphael Akara. Who Can Forget, Blondie, with I'm Always Touched by Your Present, Dear. Let's keep it clean. Ian Jory on his way up the chart with What a Waste. Great song, yeah. From the album, what was the album called? It's gone, but anyway, from his, I think it was his debut album from 78. Oh, New Boots of Panties, that was it. All right, okay. And yeah, great song. And then it wasn't, it didn't come out to be released until September 78 that year, but they started releasing the songs from the film Grease, really on the back of John Travolta's success from Saturday Night Fever. But John Travolta and Irving Newton-John was heading its way up the chart, so it was in at number nine this week with You're The One That I Want, which latterly became a number one on the classic song. Too Much, Too Little, Too Late for Johnny Mathis and Denise Williams was on its way back down the chart, but that's at number eight. Then we start seeing these Saturday Night Fever songs, so at number seven on its way up with Tavares with More Than A Woman. Classic, absolutely classic. Love that song, love that song. The Beatles did a version of it, and it wasn't anywhere near as good as that, I think. Yeah, yeah. On the same album. Yeah, absolutely, but no, the Tavares is the classic one. John Paul Young, Love Is In The Air. Yeah, brilliant. Just a classic, still gets lots of airplay these days. Australian, isn't it? Yes, I believe it is. Staying at number five, another song written by Bruce Springsteen, I think, Patti Smith, Because of the Night. Yeah, absolutely, that's a Bruce Springsteen one. And another one of my, I've got a playlist of multiple versions of this song on my phone, because I'm as sad as you, but I don't like to admit it. I don't think you are. Yvonne Ellerman, If I Can't Have You, again from Saturday Night Fever soundtrack. And we've only got a minute left, so we can't have kind of like massive chats about this, but at number three, you've got Darts, Boy From New York City. I know you're a massive Darts fan. Didn't we mention Darts last week? Yeah, we did, yeah. When we've got more time, we'll talk more Darts in later. Anyway, BG's Night Fever at number two. Yeah. Yeah, again, you know, it's classic. And staying at number one, Boney M with the double A side of By the Rivers of Babylon, with a double A side of Brangirl in the Ring. Yeah, a classic of our time. Yeah, it was flipped, wasn't it? I think it went... It didn't start as a double A side, did it? No, I think when it got tired of Rivers of Babylon, they flipped it and Brangirl in the Ring became the A side, and that went back up the chart. I don't think it went back to number one, but it went back to the top ten. Yeah, yeah. With that as the A side. Yeah, classic of our time. So there we are. That was May 1978. I'm not entirely sure we're ready to commit to what we were going to go with next week. Unless you're looking at me in a kind of like... Do you want to pick a month and a... Should we go the 80s? I'd say let's go 80s. 82? 82? Pick a month, pick a month. Don't go December. Let's go July. July 1982. Okay, it's going to be July 1982, and we will hope that... Does your diary still go to... It does, it goes right through the 80s. Oh, excellent, excellent. Will it be kind of... Well, let's fingers crossed that we've picked a month of decent music. Yeah. Well, it's going to be decent music. It's 82, isn't it, yeah. But let's hope we were doing something. So we will wrap this up. Thank you very much. All feedback gratefully received. If it's nice feedback, even greater received. If it's slagging off Jair, that's absolutely fine. But if it's slagging off me, obviously it'll be deleted. So thank you very much for listening. We will be back for number three. My lovely lady wife Becky looked at a stat this week that said, in order to make the top 1% of podcasts, you've got to produce 21 episodes, which seems to be purely based on quantity rather than quality, if I'm honest. But obviously lots of podcasts give up by 21 episodes. So we've got to make it to 21 episodes as a veiled attempt. Well, we got 109 people to listen to the first one. Let's see if we can get at least 109 people listening to this one. That'd be nice. But they are probably wanting us to shut up. And those poor people that are actually trying to get to sleep, now listening to us, want us to get to sleep. So sweet dreams for those people who are trying to get to sleep. And for everybody else, we will see you next week. And thank you again. And we will see you next week. Goodbye. Thanks for listening, if you made it this far. Yeah. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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