The Hot Take Wars

Let's get fucking tropical my name is Alex and welcome to the tropical podcast This is a podcast where my co-host and I Cameron Fucking like to just talk about bullshit and our opinions on everything love it or hate it. We're here to stay fuck Yeah, let's get into it guys right now. Daddy's cracking a little sodie pop Aka a beer because it's about to get weird in here. He's not a little fucking boy No, so we're gonna get today's episode right now We're gonna start riffing on things that you know a lot of hot takes that we believe on and how to start this out We're gonna say Alex I think you have a hot take let's thank you have actually a fucking hot take you know what my hot take is my God, let me know let me know my hot take is that everybody keeps shitting on the TV series rings of power first off Go fuck yourself. It's always good. It's fucking good The production value is high the acting is good. The story is compelling you tell him my guy You fucking you guys can suck right on my lily white asshole actually. I don't know why I May need to see the doctor bleach it But no no I'm 100% with you that show is fucking great It gave us what we all wanted what we all needed we needed new War of the Rings content And it was something that none of us knew about like nobody had any idea what this was What to expect I never read the samarillion, so that's how you say right? Yeah, I never read it So I didn't I didn't have any of that preconceived notion bullshit That is a tape that's creating a lot of these negative opinions of each other, and I did And I did read it, and I still fucking love the show because you know what it's Lord of the Rings How can you not love it it gave you more than you want we have the graphics are updated on the CGI and everything It's fucking beautiful, and it left you wanting more because exactly what we were talking about earlier Sound one gets the Mordor, baby, dude. Yeah, you know he said what we were talking about earlier Which kind of like implies that this was on an earlier episode which it wasn't this was just him And I just talking and here's the thing that fucking scene was awesome You watch Mordor at the top of this ridgeline looking or the rest of Mordor I meant you see Sauron looking on top of this fucking this ridgeline, and he's looking down into the valley of Mordor It's all hellish and the landscapes are fucking crazy the fucking volcano It's sitting there erupting in the distance and all that did for me was go god damn it I need season two right fucking now. We need it now, and that's when it hits you you're like holy shit Southland dude Like also that scene was so fucking cool. I have to equals four, baby I still don't understand how they're like that made like how all that water created the eruption is that how that would work Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd say that And I guess like all the like the incoming pressure because of the steam and like It's already active dude, so now you're gonna. Do is just get a little catalyst. You know say that shit That was such a badass thing to do all of you Galadriel can get it. She is a bad motherfucker bad bitch right there. Love you. I love you God what a great series. It is fucking great. Yeah, great series. I don't What is it with fan bases nowadays that beg and plead and demand for new content About your favorite immersive worlds, and then you get it and you just shit on it No, it's because this is how it is they want the world to be exactly how they want And you know if they do that I'm gonna be honest people are not gonna watch it It's just gonna be the true fans, and yeah, it's gonna be fun But it's not gonna be the most exciting thing versus this they made an action-packed Fucking beautiful you kept in the story was great, and you wanted it, and it got gave a wider audience That's the thing that's what that's what Hollywood's got to do They're not gonna give you everything you fucking want so like stop crying over it like do you want it or not right exactly? Do you want the content or not you don't get to dictate? What is in the content you just get it don't bite the hand that feeds you, baby People just don't get it nowadays. They just think you know they're entitled wherever they can want you know I mean, that's the internet age right everybody has it everybody has an opinion that can now reach people and because I have a bit an Opinion therefore it must be right right like no Wrong exactly wrong just like Cameron he's wrong all the fucking time all right and just go to that Alex knows he's wrong That's where we're gonna get this next topic Riffin we're gonna start riffing because we're gonna do top 5 TV series right now And I'm gonna say how bad Alice's top 5 are and how great mine are we all know that I did the right choices Okay, it's coming from the guys. I don't even actually have an insult lined up for this But I this is coming from the dude that just doesn't know what he's talking about Okay, okay, that's why a little Wayne Carter for is the best That's what I'm talking about everybody knows the Carter for was trash Carter to baby Carter to You know it's just cuz you're old It's like best thing since sliced bread. You know there's a lot of better things in life You know what just cuz you're a hard-working child doesn't mean I'm old Hey, there's some hair on these nuts over here. Okay, buddy. I've seen I've seen a sprout or two. I'm seeing Roger you know it I Please I don't have any grace yet. I you know I live I I thank God for that every actually I lied I don't even believe in that kind of thing I Think sky daddy every day I'm balding so I can't say much. Yeah, and he's like exactly you the dudes like seven years younger than me And he has the audacity to call meal. Yeah, you know what he's gonna be in diapers quicker than he knows all right all right It's called euthanasia, baby Took a dark turn real fast all right, let's get to our top five all right top five Do you want to go you want me to go you start off right now all right my top five first one TV series now This shit changes based on my mood based on what a time period I'm in life What's relevant whatever, but right now what I could think of when I was preparing for making this episode number one It's not necessarily number one, but it's in the top five fucking Dexter Michael Seahawl plays a serial killer to chef kiss perfection You're not wrong my guys. That is a great fucking show. It was in my honorable mentions. I'll be honest It was great. It was great, but you know what the last season fucking I'll give you that the last season was fucking weak And that's why my list is always gonna be better because I'm gonna put shows on that were great all the way through They were the heyday they were the ones they're rocky in the fucking ring. You know it's gonna go to ride I can't wait for your first call for me to just be like what are you smoking? And I know it's not what I got you're gonna be like I need it I mean, I'm right on it. I'll take the dragon with you can't gonna be so bad. I know already It is fucking great. Well. I'll give you I will I will go ahead and I'll admit that the last season was bad But at least the show or at least the writers trainwreck bed trainwreck bed They should have just followed the fucking in the source material from the books by the way yes There are books for those of you that don't know Learn to read But um What was I saying god damn it? Oh, but at least the showrunners acknowledged their mistake And then they tried to right their wrong by creating a new season to make the fans happy to give them better ending Unfortunately it was somehow worse screeching halt dude it was bad like I Just another one of those things where you just think to yourself just leave it alone Honestly, and you know what we're gonna leave that alone right now because Dexter was great honorable mention for me I love it now. Give me your number two well before we move on. I just gotta ask you a quick question best season There is a correct answer season 3 the Trinity killer That's season 4 no no not returning to season 3 where he befriends the the DA. Yeah, yes, yes Yes, that season is honestly Great the bottom half no no cuz that's when it starts flipping. That's when you know he's going downhill No, there's two answers two except for anything season 2 season 1 or season 4 Season 2 is where he meets the fucking psycho British chick didn't care for that as much season 1 with his brother the ice truck killer Fuckin chef kiss twice, baby season 4 with the Trinity killer, but Johnny let go yeah Fucking God John let's go Best work for me. I love that man. I did not like that is absolutely some of his best work What are you smoking the DA was the best no dude? I love Bill Organa cuz it's the same actor from Star Wars Yes, yes, yes No My god, sorry that ain't it We're gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna go ahead and put it on the record mid Mid mid give me your fucking number two because you know this list is mid right now dog keep going number two I Know you're gonna shit on it, but it's just objectively good. It's universally good The whole world agrees ten times over except for the final season game of thrones And you know what you're just picking series that couldn't live up to the end. You know why I get garbage season 8 Garbage season 8 you couldn't fuck it the battle. I go dark. It's so dark. I thought I had to go to the doctor I thought I was blind, but do you know why? Because that was not written by senior Martin himself That was written by the fuck in the writers of HBO because you just needed something Produce some fucking material dude. That's why he was talking about Stephen King How do you write so many fucking books cuz he's a legend have we Martin? How do you write faster, buddy? Let me ask you have you read any of this work. Yeah, it's not good His writing is really hard, but how good are the movies the movies always translate well, okay, okay, but his writing not good I know I Martin don't get me wrong, buddy, buddy listen here listen here. I'm just small-town guy just a little guy over here You know I'm not a big league like you. I'm talking shit to you right now, but hey Do your job just do your job over here your fucking job So are you doing a great job keep up the good work. I appreciate all the war that you wrote for Elden Ring Yeah, he wrote the story for Elden Ring in case you knew that didn't know that Fuck season 8 let's go on to your number 3 it wasn't him so you have nothing to do with it This is kind of I apologize guys my my My top 5 isn't a good encapsulation of like everything that I love because I'm Admittedly making some poor choices, but true true detective season Uno so fucking good Woody Harrelson Matthew McConaughey The on-screen chemistry, I can't think of a better one off the top of my head right now. I'm sure that I'm sure it exists, but top tier It's only one season You're picking one season out of true detective. There's two other great seasons an anthology though I'm talking about legit series. You're gonna get invested in you're talking about one season I'm talking about a series my guy, and yeah season one that is great Season two also good season three Season two was awful that was why I didn't even mention it How I Colin Farrell did a great job buddy Colin Farrell. I hate boiler. I'm sorry to see you in the woods like that Okay, Colin Farrell. You're not that great of an actor You're not You're not are you kidding me? I stand behind what I just said I said what I said, and I meant it Go ahead Go ahead try to talk your way out of it. I want to see it what? He wasn't the best part of that movie Who's the best part Jeremy Renner? I'm upset right now guys. I just you can't Follow closely behind mr.. Samuel himself you also got horrible bosses. He's great in that as well He is really fucking funny in that That's what made it great because it was so off the wall. Oh, I'm I'm sorry I'm fucking I'm losing the movie right now, and I feel like I'm losing the battle, but it's with Matt. I Had I moody yeah They've had a remake of it. I mean they had the sequel of it. God damn it. They just came out It was a great the plot give me the plot. I'll help you they're in The UK they're in the UK Down I don't want to say like Scotland or Ireland or what and be wrong Well, don't say the UK and then ever say Ireland in the same sentence. I know the IRA will come for your ass My last name's cloaky buddy all right Irish Scottish you can get I don't fucking know all right. No, okay That was a fucking absurd statement. You just said about Colin. Okay. He's not that great dude total recall The remake not a good movie Visually super appealing honestly not a good movie. I thought it was good. I thought it was okay No, I pretty good. I I own the movie. I bought it. I've watched it many times I don't hate it by any means, but it's not like a piece of Cinema if you know what I mean Okay, I don't think the original one is cinema. I never said it was No It stays in a very special place in my heart There's something about seeing Arnold Schwarzenegger's eyeballs nearly popping out of his fucking head and him going Yeah, it's fucking sends me don't you talk about the dove like that, okay, I Love all right give me your number four. I don't want to move on number four We need to hold on we need oh, oh shit Oh shit, we didn't really talk about true to Texas that much, but it is a good series Season by season it's not a see okay. You know what I'll give you that I Did I not preface that it was I'm not doing a great job here. Did I not say that? You can say that again You know what episode is over people. We're going home Boy meets world are you fucking kidding me? No no show taught me more life lessons than boy meets world Garbage Basura, I have never been more offended in her life I don't give a fuck about all of the shit that PC nowadays or like what makes people feel good that was fucked up The only thing I can say is that one girl. Let's start with a T. Topanga. Yeah, she's the only thing about it That's the only thing I know that's the only thing I ever need to know did you know that Cory is? What's-his-name's little brother? Whatever savage it's like one of the famous actor savages Fred Savage. Yeah Still don't care cuz this show sucks All I gotta say is one thing and everybody that hears this if you're out there Phoenix Phoenix Eric Matthews was the funniest character of any like like Disney show ever made And you're not gonna tell me you didn't watch that growing up I'm staying silent over here cuz you know what I'd have nothing to say to this go back to your hole You were on a high horse for me, and you just got trampled by that fucking horse He threw you off and trampled cuz you know what you're failing right now. Give me your fifth I just want to hear if I want to move on and get to my list I know what my lady great just my list is great believe the pure disrespect that you're putting on boy meets world right now The show that they made years later girl meets world trash But you don't shit a boy meets world see that's when you know it's bad because they do a remake of the show they do it for everything Not my good jokes. I can't my good shows. They make a nothing. Oh, hey, yo, where's the fucking gala? Magoo all right give me your fifth This is it this isn't a great show it has a lot of problems I just really loved it from a folk from a fan's aspect as a fan of the overall franchise I waited my litter my literal entire life For this series and that is Kenobi I'm gonna. I'll be honest. I've not seen the whole series. I cannot say there's only one season of it It's right now, but there's only one thing there's only going to be one I know so everyone season what a mind yeah, yeah, but online. It's been Said it's mid. I know and I get that but I'm a Star Wars guy So I'm gonna be you got a bit you got a take in the old like the one thing that needs to be respected And I mentioned this earlier in the episode There are some really fucking toxic fan bases out there. They're just never happy with what they get I thought about you friends clan out there talking the friends clan talking Lord of the Rings. I'm talking Star Wars Talking about all you motherfuckers. You need to chill the fuck out We are living in the golden age of content right now, and you're all shitting on it. I Need DC revived. That's all I want I agree Marvel fucking can fuck off at this point It is it's just I need a better comic. I need some dark a better cover I need dark shit to make me think about life Don't be laughing and I can like everybody's happy and everything happened You don't need a half all that God didn't have unless we're talking Deadpool Deadpool was just that way Ryan Reynolds was born for the role Sorry Hugh Jackman coming in for dp3 I'm so excited for that, but we're divulging dp3 back to the movie back to Kenobi I know you didn't watch it, but the scene between Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen as he portrays Darth Vader Were like you finally get to see Kenobi really wrestling with the fact that he lost his best friendly They barely like obviously they didn't have time in revenge of the city. They glanced over it You know what you know how I feel if you became Darth Vader. I'd kill you too. Oh I thought you just you know yeah, he thought I was gonna go a different direction I'm half machine, bro. I'm a half machine God damn it. God damn it. I touch your arm and your leg off to you all right, but not my third leg It's it's a Vienna sausage It's a tuna can it's thicker than this one. I'll be honest. I'm sad over here. Okay. We'll cancel Haven't even started yet. We're canceled You know it's your top five list it fell short for me. It fell short You know what shut the fuck up here. Let's hear yours. I did it fell short Hey, I had such high hopes for you, buddy. You're in my corner I took five minutes to build this give me a fuck only five minutes. I put years in this years of watching He created his literally the same time watching and just dedicating half my life God, I can't wait to just shit on whatever it is your number one then no particular order No particular order understood. It's always sunny in Philadelphia It's always sunny in motherfucking Franchise mid oh Let me rephrase in a total series like go episode to episode mid is there fucking episodes of that that just send me Fuck yeah, Charlie day is probably one of the funniest people alive right now Are you talking about every episode because that's what happens? That's what happens in your heart if you're if you're not how I know he's wrong because the entire first season is fucking mid They literally had to bring in Danny DeVito so that it would be paid attention to You know why cuz the star power Yes, that's how every show happens Every show wrong how they do it absolutely and you know Danny DeVito got on track cuz he knows Cavity okay, and he got in on there and knew how great it was and Frank God damn. It's fucking mid. Oh This is upsetting. I don't even what's her name. I don't even think she's funny D. Yeah You talking about the bird like that dog Throw her some respect on her name On her name dude is one of the great shows of all time That's the funniest TV show of all time nothing tops it except. Maybe my number two which is Parks and Rec I gotta go Parks and Rec in my top five. I'll be honest. I can't shit on that I've loved Parks and Rec. I've like my heart Special place in my heart, but it gave a platform to somebody I'm deserving. Yeah, yeah Yeah, are we thinking the same person? I think so. I hope so three two one Chris I Need a minute I love the guy Yeah, no Andy Andy Dwyer is probably one of the funniest written or funniest written Characters ever and I give that credit to Amy Poehler because I know that records prep put a lot into it though He did but you know she had to direct that Parks and Rec is her brainchild Understandable understandable. Oh Dick Offerman one of the funniest fucking characters you've ever played in your life if you're listening to this right now I need more Ron Swanson in my fucking life. Yes. Yes, but hey, I will say Chris Platt Platt III don't they make great electrical gear Chris Platt does make great electric We sponsor Chris Pratt the terminal list is a better It's such a good fucking miniseries never watch it. Oh That's a homer for you that is a show that will make it make it worse. Where's Chris Pratt franchise? I know right off the top of my head. Yeah, three two one Jurassic Park Jurassic World. Yeah Yeah, that's Chris I Love you my guy Star-Lord baby Star-Lord Guardians of the Galaxy did a great job there. What happened kiss you all day I just I can't do it. I can't do it. Not that good. You're not that guy pal. You're not that guy. Oh You're not that guy tomorrow. War is a great movie It was pretty good. It was pretty good. I'll give that I it wasn't memorable. It was a one-time watcher for me Okay. Okay. I think he's a watch it I didn't walk away from it being upset or thinking anything negative, but it wasn't a movie that I was like gotta watch it Yeah, he is the down-to-earth guy here and I was he's like a genuinely good person. So I like that He's a great guy. So I've also heard that he does have some problematic things about him Okay, understandable as everyone does, you know, and so, okay, so I'm gonna take that I'm going though who divorces Anna Faris Who cheats on Anna Faris? Did you see that's why they got the phone? Oh, I did not know that. This is a move to me Yeah, no, but you know, I get it. She's not a 10 in terms of looks but she is one of the funniest women He's he's His father-in-law's Arnold now. I know I know, you know, I'm good for mother-in-law's Academy for you. Good for you But I don't think she's that good-looking I Don't think Arnold's daughter's like a man. Oh No, you're getting personal. It's not personal. It's like it's just a this is a feeling that I don't need anybody to agree with me I'm not trying to die on this hill Understandable understandable you might you might I might you know, if people listen to this they go cancel and you know what? That's all right You don't know what I do for a living. Anything you say to me can be worse than my guys are Oregon Brandon Shelby I hope you're listening We make wine and you know, I just drink it all day and I say at least ten times a day I fucking hate it here. I want to go home. Yeah, exactly All right, get out of comedy now number three number three Pesky I have the pesky blenders. Yeah, picky motherfucking the picky blinders pesky fucking blinders Not a bad show doesn't deserve the love that it did. I I Don't like it that much. I watched the first four seasons Which is only four actually There's five now well I watched the first four and I I watched it out of like something like some misguided sense of obligation because I watched the rest I I know what I only even started watching it because Tom Hardy was in it was supposed to be in it Little did I know motherfucker isn't even introduced to like the end of season fucking two It's It's just such a fucking slow burn bro. It's it's nothing happens Nothing happens. I don't give a fuck that you fucking What is it you like set up some horse races? I don't give a fuck. I don't care that you rig some shit. It's It's a masterpiece. All they do is they drink in their fucking pub and they talk shit. That's all they do It's the whole show. It's a masterpiece. Okay Masterpiece, okay Arthur shall we Tom Shelby our boss Brandon Shelby? He understands. Okay Shelby would only understand because he's so proud to share the name. Yeah understandable. The show is fucking great There's not a lot more you can do Killian Murphy, I think that's how you say his name. Yeah great actor Honestly, great fucking act great fucking great. I'm not gonna say anything about his about no, he's great in the show I'm not gonna say anything. I just don't like the show. I don't find the story that compelling to be honest It hurts me that you say that I only watched it Like I said out of some sense of obligation did not it wasn't one of those shows where I was like I have to know what's gonna happen the next episode. Okay, okay, but it's not understandable Going number four then we'll get off the topic. Okay, and I'm new to this show. It's an old show but I just finished it about I Finished it a while ago. It's like two years ago, but mother fucking made it sound like it was a new discovery The Sopranos You know, I'm gonna make it I'm gonna be honest here I can't I can't weigh in I have never watched past the first six episodes of season one it is I Was the person that was like, I'm not gonna watch this. Everyone says it's great a show of all time I can't watch it. And then I finally broke two years ago, you know I feel like I need to go backwards because I Ignored a very obvious show that deserves to be the true best show of all time the wire I've never seen it and I that's my next one. I can even get also on so fuck I heard Oz is a great show never watched it. I you know, I'll be honest I didn't know till recently that Oz wasn't a real show Like I thought that that was them actually just filming what went on inside of a prison block I didn't realize that all of that was fucking fictional Well, you know when you're doing the dime piece over there in the old OSP state penitentiary, you're gonna realize It's nothing like Oz I don't even know what accent you're doing right now me neither, but I'm doing it's almost like it's Italian It's pull up like I'm not understanding polish They call themselves Pollock's and there's a huge Polish population in Chicago. I am very familiar with he's trying to save himself right now Safe space cancel. No, I mean dude, whatever. I'm a white guy. You can't cancel me Touche touche Thank You patriarchy Understandable But no Soprano's great show. There's nothing more to say about it It was actually I went in with a negative outlook on it and I walked out saying holy shit I don't know this one is great. And I know the cast is insane. It's like half a good fellas Watch watch the first four seasons Don't watch season five. That's all I got to say Well, we've come full circle. Yeah, you know Well here it's gonna my number five It's Supernatural, this is a special place in my heart kind of like boy meets world for this kid over here But yeah supernatural. This is great show. You're gonna go ahead and talk about like his Childhood show and then in the same breath shit on my childhood show Sam and Dean with Walter good show and I'm not gonna say anything bad about it But it's not bad Oh Ten times. Yeah, maybe if you're a 17 year old girl I love it. Okay, you know actually now that I'm thinking about it a lot of this makes sense Go fuck yourself. Okay, Lily stick take a step back and literally fuck your own face Dean and Sam are so fucking good in that Winchester, baby Winchester all day I'll keep saying Sam and Dean Sam and Dean Sam Then and what they do when they break the fourth wall and shit. It just gets better I honestly forgot about the fourth wall breaking and I have met Kathie L in person in real life, and he's still fucking wrong how when when Silverton my guy if you remember it was why was literally in the middle of nowhere He was trying to film a movie he was gonna ask to film a movie with that He was talking to our mayor in Silverton shout to Stu first cross-dressing mayor of all time, you know All right, Pete rip. Is he dead? Yeah, they're dead. They dead. She dead Stu's dead. Stu's dead. All right. Yeah. All right It do be like that do be like that, but yeah, no So great show. No, I mean, it's good. It's good. I'm not gonna talk shit fringes better fringes better No, have you seen all supernatural? No, so you literally Stop what you're saying. Have you seen all the fringe? Swear to God, I'm a mama who made the show See if you watch the show, you know the answer to that question Who made it JJ Abrams? I didn't see I knew that like I didn't even have to think I knew that answer He makes glares and all his movies. That's all I know Star Trek great. He does. Yeah, and you know what there were glares Yeah, there were absolutely I Like that flair he does and you know, it works everybody has like their their thing right like Michael Bay like explosions He likes explosions Fucking Zack Snyder loves his slow-mo. Yes. Yes Quentin Tarantino likes his dialogue and I like it as well. Also like feet. Yeah feet You know work all of it. There's always a foot scene in any Quentin movie guaranteed Yes, okay, okay, I like I There's so many except like actually I can't think of one for Reservoir Dogs, but I bet you if you gave me one of them Jango Jango All right, you might have one there you might but give me more time I've honestly guys I've been drinking a little bit. So my brains not quite like Understandable understandable, you know that makes us loosey-goosey. We're out here getting Get fun. We're getting fun getting weird But get weird. All right So I'll read off some honorable mentions Honorable mentions honorable mentions and for series like that. This deserves to be discussed. Yes Yes, I've heard that 100% guys. I didn't know we were doing this I'm just saying this off top of my head because I put it I'm putting Yellowstone on there never saw it It's not finished. So I can't say it's one of the best but it is great. It is fucking amazing and or And or okay, I can great. Okay. I've not yet great some of the best Star Wars content out there. Hey, we're actually Guys, yeah, I'm fucked cuz I'm a Star Wars nerd. I really am same thing same fucking thing. They've seen but rebels Chef's kiss I'm not done with it yet, but holy shit. That is some of the best animated content out there I don't want to get too much into it. Can I walk it? Can I watch it out of? Like just on some or do I need to watch it in? I mean, you don't have you can watch it on its own because I know you've watched most of everything, you know, genetically what's going on But I feel like you're doing it a disservice Okay, you know I watch before it. Well, what have you watched? I've not watched and or I've not watched Kenobi and or takes place after the fact Kenobi takes place after no I believe it takes place before it Okay, I have watched the Clone Wars, okay, I'm worth definitely important not the movie though Honestly fuck the movie weakest of the trilogy and that ooh, I stand behind it over phantom. I like phantom I actually don't hate phantom because phantom is like this beautiful hybrid marriage between Practical effects and the CGI that George Lucas was just becoming infatuated with at the time But he was great with practical. Yes, and that's why I like Phantom Menace because there's both in that right That's what's the downfall a lot of movies nowadays. It's too much. Yeah, it's way too much. The only person that did a great the original Lord of the Rings trilogy Peter Jackson, I Said Peter Jackson. I am hammered when you Jackson, dude, Jesus Christ. I am hammered No Is it now Peter Jackson, no, are you sure yeah, am I too hammered I like I'm like I could Fuck no, I fucked up. Hold on. All right. No, hold on. I just fucking I want that shit up You're high as fuck. You're drunk as fuck Motherfucker, it's Peter Jackson. It's Peter Jackson. I'm thinking Percy Jackson. I'm thinking about the motherfucker. That's still the lightning Bro He went to a camp for a kid he went to a camp for kids by the way, what's that Alexander whatever that chick's name? Dude, such a smoke show. It'll be oh my god Crazy. Also those blue eyes look like they stare through your soul, bro. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to think about the table But I love you. I love you. We're dive all the way Like oh, yeah, okay. We're talking about Peter Jackson Are you talking the Hobbit or you talk about the race because there's very little CGI that's actually in the first two Now returning the king that the Battle of Minas Tirith had definitely has a little bit more CGI But the first two are really the CGI is fairly limited. It's it's 60% practical effects Do you say I give it six I would go opposite way I would say 60% bro They don't the city of Helm's Deep they built Fucking Rohan they literally built the town of Rohan. They'd work that motherfucker. We're going off off operator I'm just saying his CGI was perfect in those movies. They were they were but nowadays it's too much You know what? I don't know how we got on this I cuz we've been drinking a little bit and we're divulging and I hope you're enjoying your time. Yeah That But circling back is now that you said this about Peter Jackson and his beautiful use of CGI I get to shit on something that you love for a moment the Hobbit the whole Trilogy of the Hobbit you've handed way too much on CGI In fact Ian McKellen even said that the experience of filming those movies made him cry Because don't you shut your mouth. I see what you're trying to do because That the experience of it was so fucking lonely because it's just you in a room talking to a green screen There is no 1v1 One interaction with other actors which for people of his generation at the least That's like their whole fucking experience and how you just took away their entire thing The Hobbit series is beautiful And I will not let you throw dirt on its name So you need it also the books aren't as good shut the fuck up it is they're not good Yes, the Hobbit. Yes, I First off the book isn't even as long as they made it like it's like one good-sized book And then they somehow turn it into three movies at least the Lord of the Rings movies were three Long-ass movie or long-ass books that became three long-ass fucking movies It's great, I wish everybody could see the look it is right right now, and I'm relishing I live for this To piss him only call 9-1-1 because you know there's got to be a murder happening right now because the Hobbit series Don't you throw dirt on its name. It is a great series It's a mofo unexpected journey right now, dude Going on an adventure. I didn't say the movies weren't enjoyable. I didn't say that I myself did not like them I'm saying that they are not as good as the first trilogy, and I live on that I will die on that fucking hill. I didn't say they're better than the trilogy the original trilogy They don't even hold a candle to it It's a completely different like loss They don't hold a candle nothing But it's right there. I'll say this about any like fantasy Middle-aged kind of Dark Ages kind of vibe Nothing in Nothing will ever live up to the Battle of Helm's Deep nothing Oh, I'm gonna fucking that shit goes down goaded for till the day. I die That shit was so good people got the bone here from that because he's old guys Fucking hate it here if you've been listening since the beginning you'd know that that is a Callback to an older name that we were not allowed to keep based on copyright He's not wrong tropical take come at you yeah, all right all right cool all right Let me move on to my next honorable mention. I don't even know how we got that deep I'm going on a tangent. I'm not going off script people Sex education, there's two seasons right now wait It is great. You would love it. You'd love it. It's the one on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're awesome great Maeve Beautiful love you, isn't that a British Otis and British oh, yes Exiled star is on there, and you know it's my neck. Oh, that's right Exiles is an honorable mention X files is absolutely an honorable mention. I never watched it religiously like I could love that show I probably say I've seen 40 episodes Total and which is honestly not a very big sample size when you think about how long the show is yeah It's a long show yeah, there's a lot to it and every episode is different But I love David you cut me that dude is goaded in my mind. Yeah, 100% Californication best sex addiction in the game, baby. Yes, sir Coming at you dude great Californication I don't know. I don't know why I didn't put that in my shirt in my list I feel like it deserved to be there because for me personally that is one of my all-time favorite shows that It's just so fucking good him an evolution as well that underrated fucking underrated also Orlando Jones Orlando Jones I think it was Orlando Jones What happened to you, bro? I? Think you're hilarious You were in fucking Keanu Reeves football oh my god the replacement Replacements you were great in that what happened to you were you? Hollywood just fall out of love with you the same way they did with the dude from fucking SLC Punk Punk and from scream, what's his fucking name dude? That's gonna drive me nuts Shaggy, yeah, Shaggy The same way cuz that guy is all John William Scott He was Sean William Scott John William Scott wasn't falling out of love with he left Hollywood because he got sick of Being typecast it is the same fucking character. He wanted to do more Yeah, but I mean when you play the character a stifler so well you might as well fucking bangers Who's a great movie Sean William Scott kills it in good? Goofy oh I didn't like the antagonist that much in it. He's just it was over-the-top also Kurt Russell's son. Whatever your name is I think it's Wyatt Russell You're not that great. I Hated you in Captain America and the Winter Soldier because he was great at being a bad guy well No, it was just because I always hated you as Asian anyways And I just don't think you're that good, and I thought you were a terrible casting for that role personally really I thought it was awful Kurt Russell's my favorite actor at all times, so I can't throw dirt on his son like that Yes, you can Deserves And I'm grabbing the shovel cuz I'm digging a dirt hole baby cuz it is garbage up in here. Yes Understandable last honorable mention Seinfeld. I was a big Seinfeld kid Are you the master your own domain? You're against I'm gonna say something that it's gonna get me a lot of heat, but this is the hot Tropical take this is the tropical take Larry David horrendously overrated Horrendously, okay, so hot I know but you're not fucking funny. It's not even ironically funny It's not I do like Jason Alexander I think he his portrayal of Larry David which is obviously his inspiration for the character is fucking on the money I think he's the best part of the show. I think Seinfeld is awful just up there with friends I don't even hate friends. I just think that friends gets way more love than it deserves I think that um you're totally wrong and everything you do is wrong It's the most wrong you could ever be well. You're welcome to your opinion, but it's wrong And I'm gonna read gift this to you next year, but like you don't even get that but like It's a great show. Yeah I don't get it because he thinks I haven't watched Seinfeld. I have watched it. I just don't like it That's why I feel like my opinion is therefore valid because at least I've seen all like nine seasons of trash I guess that's her For your enthusiasm. Yeah Yes, and do I like it some episodes more than others. I don't hate it Okay, but I know it's your whole argument is well if you like Caribbean should like Seinfeld is Larry David blah blah blah No, it's Larry David playing Larry David. It's a completely different Larry David overrated though But did I not say that George Costanza was my favorite character because I thought Jason Alexander's portrayal of Larry David was on the Fucking money. I smell a contradiction. No, you can like a character, but dislike the show and it's as a whole It hurts me dude. It hurts me Kramer. Dude. Are you serious? That guy didn't age? Well, hey you say something All I gotta say is no soup for you my guy no for you not see my ass I understand the references is a great show. It is a great show. I think for its time. It was good I don't think it aged that well, I don't think That the humor aged well in terms of I just don't think that what people find funny then people find funny now or even ten Years ago, okay. Okay It's not timeless Mmm Timeless implies that any generation could pick up this show on a dime and immediately recognizes its Goatedness, I don't think that that's a fact I think that Seinfeld was a time and place and it was loved by those in its time and place Give me one TV show that's timeless timeless. Yeah, what TV show? There are shows that are timeless does it have to be like in terms of what does it have to be a drama gonna be a cartoon like Live action. It's a live action. I know like it's real law and order That bitch has been on like 30 years and you know what it's about to end this season This is last is it really? Yeah, it's like he's it has to use only one branch of law and order You got me there I'm saying like everybody loves the cop shows, even though I think this has really played out fucking story arc a lot of things are Played out now, but it's just so easy to make new episodes because there's always new crowds hot take real hot take This is gonna be very weird. I think Hollywood should shut down for a year One year no TV shows. I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't think it's gonna happen I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't think it's gonna happen Hollywood shut down for a year One year no TV shows. No movies. No nothing for a full year How great would that be when the contact comes content comes back Am I right? So but what what I'm worried about what happened is the tremendous pressure that the writers would be under would almost like I feel like You're creating the self-fulfilling prophecy for writer's block They're writing the whole year. They know it's coming back They're pushing shows are being filmed that whole time, but nothing's coming out that's the thing It's good, it's good. I I think that'd be a great idea. But you know Seinfeld is great There's not really that many timeless shows so I can't say that I go back anytime. I want to feel good So there are I just can't think of it off the top of my head right now Give me one show for the 70s. You can watch today is relevant acts of life Relevant relevant no, but it's time when I got it was 70s But I could watch my I could watch back supply I've loved that show as a child I love that show right isn't it 70s 80s 90s. I don't know. It's Betty White and it could be anything Golden Girls, that's that's time. Let's I'll be honest Oh, honestly, you know, I disagree with a lot of things you said, but I'm not gonna disagree with that one. Will it grace? Maybe dude. Well grace is a time left on That show that's one of those like what do you call those? Um, I Watch I don't want anybody to know that I watch Oh guilty pleasure. It's a guilty pleasure show I go back. I watch it will ingrace slap dude slap That's a classic Anything from Lifetime slaps. I don't think that was a lifetime show, but everybody knows it's true Everybody knows it's true lifetime slaps, bro Don't tell me that you have not after that accidentally got caught on lifetime and found some shitty B-rated fucking rom-com where some girl goes back to a small New England town and finds the love of her life That's a carpenter slash electrician, even though she's like some high city business Yeah, and how many times have you been caught in that movie? Not one. You're not I'm not fucking liar Everybody's been caught in that fucking bullshit. It's like watching Jersey Shore. You don't want to watch it, but you can't see every episode brother Cuz that's my garbage TV that I'll enjoy I'm not gonna go to I'm not gonna Could throw myself that low and go to fucking Lifetime or Hallmark. Are you kidding me? You take that back you take that back right now garbage. Hey, you know, I'm acting a movie I'll do that all day But you know what people we may not have a next episode cuz I'm about to murder him. This is garbage This is garbage right now I'm not gonna lie. This is this a lot in right now. I think I think we'd wrap up this episode right now It's getting heated. It's getting heated, but I would like to we both would like to hear you guys's takes on on the whole Podcast to if you guys have your hot take sorry I was looking at something else right there But you guys could shout us out give us your hot takes give us questions You want to ask for things that you want to hear us talk about things that you'd like to take a poll on? I just ideas bro. We need content ideas because we want to do this for a long time What is our email our email is the tropical take podcast at gmail.com? Okay, he's reach out send us your shit. It's not Cameron. He's a bitch what? Alex has no good top fives on anything so far. I thought I'm winning to this First off it's one one boy means world. Are you kidding me dog? Are you bro? I can't believe that you would find out. Yeah, that's all you got you know It's good you were watching that show and you're a little out of lessons boy, right? So that's the only reason you're not wrong. No, it's not the only reason you you're saying top five There's a woman. I'll be here. I was thinking my childhood is what I was trying to do Setting up that ain't go fuck myself. Yeah guys, let me know how good I did let Alex know how bad he did Send us in some stuff. Let me know that but backwards. Oh exactly backwards backwards. This is opposite All right. Thank you very much Thank you so much for being here. 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