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This week on the TeamNade Podcast, we discuss the first Halo Major of the year in Arlington & the COD results for the last week before Major 2 in Miami. Follow us on Twitter! https://twitter.com/TeamNadePod COD - 4 Mins - 35 Mins Halo - 35 Mins - End

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What is going on, everybody? Welcome back to the TeamNade podcast, episode 17. At TeamNadePod on Twitter, or X, whichever one you prefer. Back again, joined by the main man, the one and only, Brian Oop. How are we doing? I'm good, man. I'm good. Not too bad. What was your week saying? Yeah, it was all right. What a weekend of Halo it was. Oh. Absolutely insane weekend of Halo. It started off, you know what I mean, started off strong. Got that premium gas in the eights lobby. Ended incredibly strong. Disappointing for you, obviously. But we'll get into that, I'm sure. But, yeah. I knew. We had this discussion last week. Right at the end. Or right at the start of the Halo session, our predictions. I knew. We didn't predict that the go of all controller esports was gonna drop two kills in game seven. These things are variables. You gotta predict for variables. You know what I mean? Okay. Well, you know, you can't. You don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, this is very true. This is very true. But we'll get onto the Halo session in a bit. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure we'll circle back around and we'll touch base on that. Oh, I think it's gonna be a strap-in episode because this is gonna be, I think it's gonna be quite long. Especially because, obviously, it's been the major for the Halo. And then this weekend of COD was the last weekend before the major. So I've got plenty of results and then plenty of upcoming fixtures. And then we're gonna talk about top four for the major. So I think- Well, we get to do predictions again, bro. We get to do predictions again. Exciting. That's where it's at. Yeah, and we can be wrong again. Yeah, our predictions are wrong. What are predictions that are wrong? I feel our predictions, apart from, like, my predictions were very wrong. I feel. Who did I say was gonna win? Did I say Space Station was gonna win? I got none wrong. I got none right. I'll tell you, I got none right at all. I feel I got none right as well. I know you got, we both had Phase at top. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we had Phase top Space Station too, didn't we? Yeah, and then you had- I had Optic and then Sen. You had somebody and then Full. I think I had Sen. Yeah. Right, well, we'll circle back to that. We're getting ahead of ourselves here. Yeah, we'll get back on to that. This is called section first this week. Won't you fucking horses, my guy? My, I've got the odd episodes, which I fucking hate, but that's not my fucking choice, apparently. Right, here we go. It's all right. It was waiting for you to come in and have a conversation about it, but no, no, just fucking leave me there. I was trying to cook something up, bro, but, like, it wasn't working. What were you cooking it at? Fucking 20 degree? What, like, cook it a bit faster? 10, bro. 10? You know, 10 degrees, a little slow burner. My man's got the oven that's on top of our microwave that are built in two in one. Get one of those. No, it's not, the oven isn't on top of the microwave. The oven is the microwave, like, get it right, bro. The oven is the microwave. You're on the fucking hob. Yeah, that's not like built-in kitchen appliances. Like, you get it right, bro. No, I was just talking about your one. I was talking about, you've never seen the microwaves? It's like a microwave oven, and then it's got the hob on the top. Like, it's like a microwave. Oh, like those toasters with the frying pan on the side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ones that you get in, like, home bargains, or down the middle aisle of Aldi for, like, 20 quid. Yeah, and they're normally in, like, studio apartments where the shower is essentially is your living room. The shower, yeah. The shower's just an area tiled off in the corner of the living room floor. Your entire flat's a wet room because you have showers of leech everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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Yeah. It was a big, big place, to be fair, because Spider-Man formulated a plan on the fly, shutting down. Yeah, because the bomb, on that last round, the bomb was on construction, on B. Yeah, it wasn't on B, wasn't it? But they flipped out all the way to A. Yeah, it went down to a 2v1, and they were like, bro, let's just rotate this out. Deleon was sitting, I think he was at the back. I can't remember exactly where he was, but they rotated all the way out, and they managed to get the bomb down, and then just played from there. Yeah, he was on for a nice one, if he got both of them. As soon as the bomb's down, it creates such a stressful situation that you've got to get killed two people. Yeah, because you don't really have a lot to do later. 30, 40 seconds, something like that. It's going to be 45 in it, actually. I can't remember exactly, but it doesn't give them a lot of time to do all that work, and it just didn't happen, unfortunately. Which is a big upset, because that's phase lost two games in this qualifiers, where previous majors, they lost none. Well, I mean, hopefully it means that they're going to have better luck online. Yeah, true. To finish off the last two games, you had Serge Mill, Boston 3, and then Optic 3, New York Subliners 2. Optic with the reverse sweep to go into Major 2 with no losses on the online qualifiers, which then made New York 6-1 for the qualifiers after that game. Do you see... I feel that was a mad series, if this works. Yeah, it was. I didn't watch that, personally. You were watching it. You were watching both at the same time. Yeah, I was watching the Halo and the CoD, yeah. One eye on the Halo, one eye on the CoD. That's why you've got two monitors. That's why you train your eyes to watch two different things at one time. LAUGHTER But, um... Like an alien out of Men in Black trying to watch different things at one time. Eyes pinging all over the show. Yeah, I know, man. Um... Oh, what was I going to say? I don't know. It's gone. It's gone. Oh, no, I remember. Do you happen to see that clip from The Flank? Have you seen this? Which one? Well, yeah, I mean, I feel like they literally just go on there and say the most outrageous things every single fucking week. Is it the one they said that Kenny... Like, all my prayers get better online. It's the one where the boys, like, they all get worse out of that, apart from prayer. Octave's just like, are you saying Kenny gets worse out of that? And he's like, no, no, no, no. That's not what I said. That's not what I said. No, no, no. He doesn't get worse, he just doesn't get any better. That is exactly what you just said, bro. Shut the fuck up. Is that twice they've had a bit of optics on their thing? It's like, who is Shotzi a superstar the week before, and now it's they all don't get better online. I don't really know about that, is Shotzi a superstar stuff. It depends, I guess it depends what your, um... definition of superstar is, doesn't it? Not everything. Everybody will have a different thought of what makes a superstar. I'm not convinced. I feel like to be a superstar, you've got to be winning stuff. And they're not winning stuff. Has Shotzi ever won, has Shotzi won anything on Optic? They've won Major with, I can't remember what Major it was, but it was him, Dashi, Scump and Illay. They won a Major. Was that in... I can't remember what it was. Was that not in fucking Vanguard, though? Yes. Because they didn't win in MW2, did they? Um... No, they didn't win anything in MW2. No, they didn't win anything in MW2. Yeah. So, it's a fair amount of time, but... I don't know. I think it's... I don't know how old he is, but there's still plenty of time for him to do what he needs to do. He was so young. He won that Halo World Championship when he was like 15 or something. Yeah. Yeah, to be fair, he was able to do it in multiple eSports, but it's not... I don't think he's solidified that Superstar status. Like, take S1mple. Like, S1mple, for example, he's a Superstar because he is a consistent... Yes. ...damage output, consistent KD, consistent big play, and he's won stuff to back it up. I feel like that's the thing with Shotzi, man. I feel like you never really know what kind of Shotzi you're about to get. Like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not even on, like, a... Not even at, like, on, like, a game day or an event. Like, on a play-by-play basis, you have no idea what sort of Shotzi is about to emerge. Yeah, because one minute, it's absolutely cracked, and then the next minute... Yeah, like, untouchable. It'll go on like a fucking... I don't know, like, nine untraded kills, and then it'll just get slammed ten times in a row. Mm-hmm. Like, in, like, really weird locations. Yeah, like, just over-challenged stuff. Like... Yeah. I kind of... I still kind of... I still kind of stand by, like... We've talked about this before, and I still kind of stand by the fact that, like, it's not a Shotzi problem. It's an inability for his teammates to play at the same pace that he does. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like... Because he still... Like, even those situations where he overheats, he still gets damage down. Like... Yeah. There's never anyone there to follow that up. But then... Don't know. Depends on which way you want to look at it, whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. I guess you could say, overall, it's a team game, and so it's a bad thing if he's just, like, running out, getting someone one-shot, not finishing the kill, dying. Yeah. No one follows it up. Like, that's not good. There's a constant feeling that he wants to be the big play guy. He always wants to be the one that makes the big play and makes things happen. He sees his name in the lights. Yeah. The 40-yard shot every time it comes to him at the edge of the box. Like, I only score screamers. Yeah. Constantly on that Steven Gerrard against Olympia Arcos. Ruben Neves-type beat. Yeah, you know. You know what I'm talking about. Full volley, top bins. Like, only goals he ever scores. My man's on the goal line, he's running for the top, and he'll walk it out just so he can get a 40-yard shot off. Yeah, chip it up. He's playing FIFA in real life. My man's playing headers and volleys in real life. Chip it for yourself. That's all he wants to play. Monotones. Right, so we'll go ahead and I'll do quickly the fixtures for the Major 2. Major 2 starts on March 21st, which is Thursday of this week. Oh, it's Thursday, isn't it? Yeah, I always forget that it comes out on Thursday, bro. So, March 21st to the 24th, Thursday through Sunday. I can't watch it. Fuck. Why not? Oh, I'm going out on Thursday, aren't I? I don't like you anymore. What games we got Thursday? Is there any good ones? Oh, first game in the fucking Major, I think, is Optic vs. Heretics. I've got a good show about that. Optic vs. Heretics, Ultra vs. Legion, New York Subliners vs. Boston, Faze vs. LAT. That's the games. So, what's... That's all Winners Bracket, yeah? That's all Winners Bracket. Right, okay. Losers Brackets, you've got Ravens, Surge, Rocker, and LAG. Obviously, their games are undefined until we know who loses in the Winners Bracket. Yeah, yeah, of course. But the way that it's going to go is that if... whoever wins Optic vs. Heretics or Ultra vs. Legion, they'll play each other. And then, whoever wins New York vs. Boston, Faze vs. LAT, they'll play each other. And will that be on Friday? I think so, yeah. So, we could see... We're going to have banger games from the start. Yeah. We could... I mean, I'm not going to lie, but I'm not seeing Ultra vs. Optic Friday. Yeah, I'm thinking... The way that I'm thinking it's going to go is it's going to go Optic vs. Ultra vs. New York vs. Faze. I think that's going to be the... Oh! It's going to be games on a Friday, bro. Oh my... Yeah. That's insane. Yeah, they're going to be so... Oh, no. Is it going to be Friday or is it going to be Saturday? Because... No, it'll be Saturday. It'll be Saturday, yeah. Because they get the Friday... It'll be Saturday? Oh, yeah, because Saturday will be Losers Bracket, won't it? Yeah, because the... If you win the first... I think if you win the first games on the Thursday, you get the Friday off. Yeah. So they can do the Losers. That actually makes sense as to why they start on the Thursday then. Because I was just thinking then, because if you start in the lower bracket, you basically get a first-round buy because you don't play on... You know what I mean? It's like you get a first-round buy because you're not playing in the first round of the event in theory. But obviously then it's like... You then end up playing Friday but then the team in the lower bracket get Friday to prepare for Saturday. I guess. Although maybe they'll do it... I imagine they'll probably do a mixture, to be honest with you. Because there's only four games, isn't there? Yeah, so there's four games on the Thursday and then it goes one, two, three, four, five games on Friday. Yeah, I reckon we'll get either Optic Ultra or FaZe Subliners Friday night, the final game. Yeah. Friday night, the final game of the evening. Yeah, so... You get all that... So the Saturday... The Thursday wins, you get the winner's bracket and then Friday you get the elimination bracket plus one of the elimination round twos. Yeah. And then Saturday you get the winner's bracket and you get elimination round two as well. Yeah. And you also get elimination round three. Okay. And then Sunday, Championship Sunday, you get the elimination round four, elimination final and then winner's final. And the grand final. Yeah. Okay. That's how that's going to go. Interesting way of doing it. Yes. I think it's going to be Optic versus Ultra the second round and then Subliners versus FaZe the second round. I don't see that going any way else. Maybe the Ertex upset or maybe a Legion upset. Do Legion play in Subliners? Ultra. Ultra? He even boasted against Subliners because the Subliners only just beat Boston in the qualifiers. Yeah. And also they choked it on that last time. They were terrible last major. They double first rounded. Yeah. Exactly. Fucking hell. That's bad. Subliners getting rounded, bro. Yeah, right. First major back from World Champions. World Champions. First rounded. That is rough, bro. That is rough. Final thing to talk about this is I want to hear your top 4. Starting at number 4. Going into the event? Yeah. At the end of the event who's going to be top 4? This is a tricky one, right? Because in that 4th position I would love to see LAG or LAT. Okay. I'd love to see it, right? Because shout out the boys Diamond Con and Ghosty. Yeah. Right. But I'm also realistic. Yeah. And I don't see them because obviously it's like if one of FaZe Optic Ultra or Subliners go I know I said this last time and it didn't happen but if one of them falls to the losers bracket in round 1 it's going to be a bloodbath. Yeah. Especially if it's like Ultra FaZe or Optic I feel. Subliners I'm still a bit iffy on. Like but you know what I mean. So I don't know 4th I think Hmm. I'm going to go for a rogue one. A rogue one, bro. Would you like me to go with mine? Yeah. Who have you got in 4th? So 4th I I have a split decision between 4th. Right. I think it's either going to be Subliners or Rocker. See I was going to say Rocker but I was going to be like you know Rocker It depends on what type of Rocker we get. If we get Rocker that played on Surge against the Heretics No. If you get the Rocker that played against Surge in 1.3.1 or the Rocker that took that took Optic to 3.2 that's the decent Rocker. So it depends on which one you get. Depends if they want to help out Linz or not I feel. Yeah. You know what I mean. If they're helping Linz then they'll go far. If they're just hanging them out to dry then they're not going to get very far off it. That's my 4th. New York or Rocker. One of those two. Fuck it. I'm going to go with the rogue pick. I'm locking it in. Minnesota Rocker. Top 4. Okay. Nice. 3rd? Umm Optic. Optic. Okay. Optic. I've gone Ultra. Ultra you think? Yeah. I think Ultra is still top 2 in the league right now. Okay. So your 2nd position? Ultra. Ultra. I've got Optic in there. Which leaves us that leaves us both with FaZe on top. Oooh it's an interesting decision from you bro. I can't lie. I thought you were going to say Optic. Optic number 1 yeah. No. No. I mean I think they're not right. My thinking behind it is as convincing as I want them to be able to win a major. Yeah. I get that. I get that feeling. Like yeah they've got the ability to win games but they do it in such a fucking long ass motherfucking way. So like Subliners game reverse sweep they were 2-0 down. Yeah. Against Boston last weekend they only they won 3-2. Against Ultra on the Sunday of last weekend they won 3-2. Yeah. Umm Ravens they beat 3-1. More consistent that's better. Umm LAG they won 3-1. Rocker they won 3-2. There's just no consistency of battering a team you know what I mean? You know what is consistent about them though? What's that? They absolutely batter in game 5. Yeah. Like in game I don't know what it is obviously I mean compared to LAN but like that game 5 that we watched umm Ultra Ultra Against Ultra and they fucking slammed them like oh my god like literally just like slammed them into the ground like it was wild but I I it's one of them with Optic I know what you're saying I feel like the mental isn't there like they've got all the talent in the world but like I feel like the mentality isn't quite championship calibre at this point in time. Yeah. Whereas with FaZe and Ultra it's like I feel that mentality is there it's just if they can put all of get the whole package together on the day. Yeah. That's the thing I feel like FaZe have the ability to just dominate a team. Yeah. 100%. If you want to get going for sure. Yeah. FaZe are just a consistent team nearly all the time. They've had a little stumble against LAG that happens. Yeah. I think they just underestimated them. They need to do a lot of work in their search game but fuck me they'll do it. Draza doesn't get off the game. As we'll get on to the Halo later like Legend he doesn't get off the game and it shows. Yeah. Although Draza doesn't get off the game and it shows. I'm not gonna lie bro I feel Draza is the weakest link in that team. You think? Yeah. I don't know what it is man I don't know what it is like I just feel like Draza like Draza obviously an upgrade on Slasher right. And you know I love the boy Slasher. But like I just feel he's just not as like let's put it this way right I mean like I know that with the players on that team any one of them can take over at any point right. I feel like every time I watch FaZe play it's never Draza that's having the takeover moment. I would disagree. There is plenty of time and he's doing it all on his own. That's cool man. So like for the reason for like a little supporting argument for FaZe right going back to their previous games 3-1 against Heretics Yeah but it's Heretics. Hang on fuck now fair enough they lost against New York subliners 3-2 um subliners their top team uh 3-0 against Rocker uh 3-0 against Ultra 3-0 against LAT and then obviously then they lost to LAG so little stumbles here and there but that's that could be that can easily be fixed with a little bit more work in certain situations especially Surge but they have the consistent if they're on if FaZe are on their game it's okay it's an incredible you have to move mountains to take them off yeah it's just are they going to get on their game to be fair I feel like they've got an easier bracket run oh yeah no 100% they've got they've got such an easier play the FaZe play the FaZe and then it's subliners or Boston yeah so like to not have to go up against Ultra first off like in round 2 it's massive see because that's the thing man that you know they're they're going to dodge like the other two top teams like because like for me you know like obviously like it's a top 4 like subliners for me like they're not in that top 4 right now yeah in my opinion it's not a top 4 right now in COD it's a top 3 okay yeah like so I don't I don't really qualify subliners on the same level I'm more than happy to be proven wrong because obviously like reigning world champs they've got incredibly likable players you know what I mean yeah yeah but like they're not I don't know man I'm just not convinced I guess in the same way I'm not convinced by subliners credibility at the moment like I feel like that team change is like I don't know if it's a team change or obviously like the different game or like what it is but it just doesn't seem to be like gelling right now I mean luckily we're only at the second major of the year and like you know it's a long season but it's just not like I don't know man it's just not all there yet they're consistently inconsistent yeah I agree with that yeah like they'll beat teams they'll lose the teams that they should but I mean I guess you could say the same thing about FaZe like going through those results there that you just read out yeah they beat teams you know what I mean everybody's allowed to have a stumble now and again because you stay at that sort of top oh yeah I mean for sure but it's just surprising that like it's surprising in the manner they lost I feel like yeah that's the thing man it's surprising when you get to the stage like you know what I mean it's like like with the LAG thing it's surprising that they took them to game 5 yeah like you know what I mean if that's a split one game it's like okay to be fair like FaZe were 2-0 down they brought it back to 2-2 and then they just for some reason searched like see but this is what I mean bro right the fact that they had to go to game 5 like FaZe FaZe respawn is far better than their search by that last series like far better yeah but which is surprising considering FaZe are so good at search like you know what I mean I feel like historically their search has been insane and it's like it just seems to have fallen off a cliff the problem the problem I find with search is search is so situational based and so timing based yeah all you all it takes is for you to be off your timing by like 2 seconds and that's that's a round over yeah it's all it's all about how people move around the map and how quickly they're moving around the map and if you're watching that angle and then all of a sudden you turn and then they all rush through where you're watching yeah and I've just left it fucked like going going back to this point on Draza right like I feel that is the problem okay it's like they just seem like really not even really disjointed in search like cause it's not it's not like they're just like all four of them are doing completely different things right but it's it just seems to be it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like it's just like I get what you mean but I don't know if I agree with it because like LAT last year Draza was the best player yeah but like this is what I mean though bro it's like they're playing like different versions of obviously like you know like how we were talking about Deadzone joining Optic Halo and it's like oh fucking he's got to unlearn everything that he knew from his previous team I feel like that's the thing with Draza yeah cause like when the pressure's on like he reverts back to like LAT LAT LAT type plays yeah and that just creates this thing where it's those you know what I mean Simp, Celium, Abysi and then Draza like doing like involved in the play but it's almost like he doesn't like like he knows what's going on and he knows what's going to happen and he knows where he has to be but he doesn't understand why kind of thing like you know what I mean I don't know it's kind of like the lights are on he knows what he's doing he just doesn't understand it to that like you know the minutest of minutest details and that's like they're getting exposed maybe it's just a slight like yeah you know what I mean just a slight issue to the play yeah I mean the other thing is maybe as well like it's a tactical one yeah you know what I mean maybe they're tactically throwing games so they get an easier run because that wouldn't surprise me that's got that's a very Draza thing to do no I wouldn't do that no I wouldn't say that they want to no Draza's such a competitive competitive he looks like the Viva Veneta guy Forksmask probably he told me that guy's not shifty yeah he's shifty he wants to win he's shady as fuck my man thinks he's a demon like my man thinks he's the best in the game the only good thing about him is that moustache he needs to trim that right ok I don't know what he does just get rid of that this shit is just such a fucking and that's the end of the card that's what's distracting him bro he's too busy focusing on the fact he's got a moustache is that why you don't have one my man links up so it's fine link's up if I only had the moustache then I'd just I'd just be there like yo I've got a moustache why do you think why do you think skunk retired bro when he got the fucking when he got the lip slug like you know what I mean skunk grows out of the lip slug like bang out of the league bro retired is that generally what you think goes through everyone's head that's got a moustache is they constantly walk around and be like I've got a moustache yeah that's exactly what I think it is they all think they look like Magnum P.I. but they don't because they're not Tom Selleck are you done or Simon Skinner from Hoffers go with moustache I'm a slasher slasher of prices bro why doesn't slasher like in their like you know that the Boston Breach like introduction video why is he not in a supermarket because because they're American and then Hoffers is not as big it's such a niche reference but I love that shit yeah but if it was if slasher was an English an English Donny we would be doing that oh yeah 100% especially if he's called Simon as well or his last name was Skinner imagine if he was called Simon Skinner and his gaming tag was slasher yeah but then you'd be doing that on purpose at that point yeah but like it'd still be cool because no one would understand it apart from like Bams Ben Beans Ben Beans Cammy Pixie Nasty just out here naming British players yeah English players like British players right well that's the end of the card I look forward to the Major it's going to be good yeah I think it's going to be it's going to be sick it's always good it's always bangers yeah so I'm excited for that and like there's always like a storyline like you know what I mean like a team that just goes on a run and they shouldn't you know what I mean I feel yeah I feel it was Rocco last event I want to see him continue that I want to see Assault bro like fucking double handing it again you know what I mean nah we want with the hand hand warmers quote unquote nah we want we want a Diamond Con masterclass bro any time Diamond Con's in the server it's a masterclass that'd be so ridiculous bro like oh my god there's damage like everywhere if you get get Diamond Con on Thieves yeah Diamond Con to Thieves and then they win everything I don't know about that like ghosty Diamond Con goated AR duo yeah that's fine they don't even have a flex bro they just have they've got a lot more LAT they've got a lot more problems than just damage overall pain blur yeah ghosty's blazed all the time bro have you not heard on Twitter that's their main number one problem according to anonymous Twitter user 125 or whatever the fuck his name was do you even know his name like genuinely like I'm not going to lie bro when I saw that tweet because obviously in the tweet Nadeshot's like at Dashie I thought it was Dashie that had said that like I think I read it when I was like half asleep and I was like LAT Optic Beef nice oh that's another thing as well I bet any any games against FaZe are going to be especially if we get Ultra FaZe that's going to be nasty oh it's going to be tasty it's going to be spicy although to be fair Scrap has gone on the record since then and been like yeah I regret I shouldn't have said that me and Draza were mates but yeah Draza's not going to be allowed to because if he backs down off that then what does that make him fucking Keeks is going to run on the stage and like world star him or some shit you know what I mean like RKO him like off the set up did you see his fucking flying kicks from Keeks over the over the monitor shout out Keeks man like if you listen to this don't at us on Twitter please like I can't be bothered with the drama right let's move it on quickly before we start getting on to our Halo Halo man right couple of things to speak about before we get into what happened this weekend I don't think anything happened this weekend so I'll be alright quick section first thing tomorrow the game is finally playable people I don't know like how I hold but like hang on hang on let's have a quick discussion about the wording of this because I doubt it's going to be fucking playable I don't know well but it's not going to be playable the problem is right is it's like for everything that they fix they break something else exactly what is going to what is going to break right hit red fuck that would be so bad literally hit red can't get any worse like and oh mate like I was playing today I had the worst incident of de-sync that I've ever had in my life right like yeah so like I came I was like um it was I was trying to move on I was trying to move on that was your issue you know bud right well like um it was live fire ball I think and like OS was coming up or active was coming up so like I think I was coming from um the nest yeah I distinctly remember I was in the nest right because I played towards the nest to get my shields back looked green no one green was like okay chilling like I'm going to leave green green's going to be open hit top mid double quick time down the coast G-slide out kill the guy that's on the active like you know what I mean like two nades off the wall like literally got one like peeked it killed the other guy G-slide out nice and like as I hit the hit the slide it just went like do-do-do-do-do like just stuttered so bad and I was like what like what the fuck is that like what is that why is that why did that just happen what is causing this like you know what I mean and the only thing I can think of is because like I was thinking about it afterwards right and like you remember I said to you about how the like the curb slides and stuff the G-slides whatever you want to call it that's like a glitch it's not meant to be in the game yeah I think that like the netcode is genuinely horrendous for this game right as a start right but I think because the improvement tech that you can implement obviously in your own gameplay I think like that actively causes more desync so like if you're someone that like hits G-slides all the time because like I die through walls so often bro right you know what I mean and it's like and I'm convinced it's because when you hit a G-slide the server doesn't understand what's happening because you're kind of exploiting a glitch in the game and then it just goes like well you're not actually behind this cover you're here because like obviously when you go back and watch it like I mean how many times I don't understand how this guy's killed me go and watch it on the um the theatre and then you see what the server sees allegedly because that's not accurate at all and it's like I'm just stood out in the open but on my screen I was behind that wall you know what I mean it's just like what what is this fucking thing that we're playing like what is going on um but yeah so tomorrow did you play firefight when that was that the matchmaking the netcode thing was in I can't remember if we played it or not I don't think so like I played a few games of it it did feel very very nice I think they then rolled it out to squad battle and like I played a lot of squad battle when that was out and it was sick like it was so nice um so hopefully the game will feel a lot better it did feel a little bit slower if I remember rightly like I'm hoping that heavy aim doesn't make a return from Halo 5 I used to play a lot of Halo 5 but that shit sounded horrible um like you know so hopefully that you know makes the game a little bit more playable um means that like the game actually works as it should do or works more in line with how it should do uh which will be nice so that's coming tomorrow which is Tuesday 19th of March uh there's also some weapon shooting gravity hammers getting nerfed into the ground hopefully because that shit's way worse in social game modes I'm so glad that it isn't in comp on any map it'd be super bad in comp that shit is so bad bro it'd be like a throwback to the fucking sword in comp the sword like the the sword in comp wasn't the problem the problem was the maps in my opinion and the fact that on every map where they put a sword they immediately put the thing that was the only hard counter to it right next to it yeah which was the repulsor so it's like you know what I mean like the sword obviously on that little island that back blue on recharge the repulsor's in the bottom blue tunnel so you just hop over you grab that you grab the repulsor and then you just sit in the corner yeah like unkillable you know what I mean you literally control like an entire quarter of the map because it's just like well if he's in here where like where is he what's going on you know what I mean um like but yeah so there's a lot of weapon tuning I think they're improving they're increasing the reload speed of the bandit it's only minuscule but it's like it should make it a little bit better because I feel like you know like when you run low on ammo with a bandit and I'm like when do I reload is it saving the reload that's something that you actually actively have to think about whereas I feel with the battle rifle that wasn't anything that you really have to think about that much no like obviously in certain situations but a lot of the time it was it only takes like a second or half a second like you know what I mean it's not it doesn't take that long whereas with this it's like fucking hell it's horrible this will be the second time they've buffed it as well I think ok like um commando's apparently getting a buff which I think is good I saw a video today that said that it's a nine shot perfect I think or a fifteen shot if it's not perfect right and that obviously doesn't take into account the horrendous damage of it as a weapon yeah so it's like it's not it's a buff but it's not like going to be overpowered yeah because they're reducing the bloom on it as well that's what the buff is they're reducing the bloom they're not doing anything with the damage but like reducing the bloom will make it viable for that kind of long range suppressing role I guess more so than it already is more so than it already is yeah yeah I feel like unless it's comp it's not a very well used gun yeah for sure and there's something else that they're changing as well but for the life of me I can't remember what it is that might actually be it um but yeah looking forward to that there's some new refreshes on some of the game modes I think they're refreshing BTB there's a new map isn't there there might be a new map yeah it'd be pretty cool if there is I feel like I saw something about a new map don't be wrong though don't quote me the maps on this Halo are like they're not bad but like I've been playing a lot of MCC on like the classic Halo maps and they just play so much better yeah you know what I mean yeah for sure like there's just there's just I don't know it just seems like easier to work out what's going on where you need to be and there's more opportunities for like play arounds and stuff like that you know what I mean well unfortunately I've never played any other Halo apart from this one I can't believe that bro to this day I still can't believe that I was always just cod based you know what I mean like I've never it just never interested me your childhood must have been the best no my childhood was quite um maybe hey yo got a bit real there he got a bit real that's another character tweet I'd love to read gambling gambling and sad childhood laughing hey yeah but you cracked it cod bro so you know what I mean yeah so who's the real winner swings around the box isn't it who's the real winner here um yeah I just never I never had any mates play Halo we were always cod bit cod or FIFA so that's what kind of took over yeah I get that I get that so I just never never got round to it and then obviously you were playing it and I was like well it's free I've never looked back ever since yeah because you're one of these annoying people that picks up any FPS and is instantly good you say instantly good it's because I've spent the majority of my childhood playing cod you know what I mean like it's the same as fucking Battlefield I never played Battlefield when I was younger yeah but like that 2042 isn't Battlefield bro yeah I don't know what the fuck that is but it is not Battlefield it's just generic shooter with tanks I enjoyed it I enjoyed it but like I don't know I'm not convinced the guns on it just have like negative yeah I feel like the two problems with that right like the gunplay is it's nice but it's not like satisfying and the maps are not fantastic I mean they're better now but they were they're a lot better than they were at launch but it's still not fantastic yeah it's still not what you want it to be oh there's apparently coming out so maybe download that maybe worth a try yeah what else there was another thing that I wanted to bring up before we got onto the measure uh oh right word on the street yeah if you keep your ear to the ground like I do and pay attention to rumours it's that some rumour merchant I do love a good rumour I pass them off as facts and then act surprised when they don't happen well my mate you'd be great down a pub yeah no I would be I'd miss my calling right I'd sit here and do this with you instead of like just spouting bullshit in the pub to anyone that listens to me and everybody that came over from the fucking pool table hey you hear about you hear about Dave you hear about these dogs they can't look up do you know that cows when they go upstairs can't come back down which is actually that's not even a fucking rumour that's a fact by the way cows can't go downstairs yeah but like how do you even get a cow upstairs I don't know but there was a school around us once that put three cows upstairs in like a high so the academy had like a three story block they put cows upstairs they can't get them down because they don't know how to go downstairs so what did they do they just left them up there I don't know well yeah I feel like they had to you know take them out take them out take them out it's a mob pit just out the window let them fly out the window hahaha they airlifted the cows out of the classroom that was the other part that's what happened they put three cows upstairs and then they were like what the fuck what the fuck are we supposed to do here then we can't get them down it's custom daft I feel yeah cows are quite stupid I feel they're not known for problem solving ability to be fair dangerous as well cows are dangerous man to be fair they shouldn't really have to worry about going up and down stairs where they normally are no I mean they feel in their natural habitat of the field they're um there's no stairs going about there's not a lot of stair sets and even when they put them into the back of those little trailers it's a ramp you know what I mean hahaha I want to know the first person that ever found out they can't go downstairs like I was connected by a cow probably those boys at that school by you bro I caught an instance of a cow ever in human history being faced with a stair set like you know what I mean hahaha the first no one's no one's ever done that before no one ever thought to even check that because they were like them cows over there they can go downstairs you know what I mean back in like ancient Greek philosopher times Archimedes is there like looking at cows he's like yo you say that but like they can go downstairs and I think like a guy was just like fuck you do some philosophy you say that but they had some wild things they did what ancient Greece yeah yeah they were nuts bro yeah exactly so what's saying they didn't check to see if cows were actually like constructing death rays and stuff weren't they death rays yeah you know I heard about I think it was Archimedes America where he like he was like on the front of the trireme and he like focused the sun's rays and like burned something with it so what you're saying is Archimedes aka known as Emperor Palpatine hahaha yeah Archimedes built a death star bro you heard it here first yeah history podcast come and see hahaha the most wildest Archimedes is Emperor Palpatine who's also also spoilers Chancellor Palpatine hahaha who's also yeah you might not know this right Senator Palpatine hahaha same same guy aka Darth Sidious but you never saw that one come it's not it's not a coincidence they've got the same name they're the same person what? they're the same person what? I thought they were all brothers hahaha but they were triplets bro wait a minute have we just have we just discussed wow bro what what happens if suppressed diagram and avenue are Emperor Palpatine Chancellor Palpatine and Senator Palpatine there'll be a six there'll be an ace sitcom I think the three hahaha the fuck are we talking about bro right hahaha hahahaha did you see a Charlie from 2020 hahaha we got there finally after we've gone round the houses but but we have Arrive Donald Amazon we've gone round the houses to arrive at the house I guess yeah we're doing we're doing the inspecting of the houses you know gotta inspect inspect the outside before you go in exactly you gotta do a thorough survey of the surrounding area so what before we get into it what was your without giving anything away what was your opinion of the event it was a very good event I enjoyed it it looked very nice the stage the stage was insane the stage was nuts nearly all games were really good to watch yeah I would agree with that I can't say I really had any really bad games to watch it was enjoyable it was a nice weekend it was a good weekend at Halo the storylines were wild as well man oh yeah so many different storylines going on throughout the event not even just the players the production everything it was class so many and if we're going to get through them all we're going to have to be quick we got time we got time but we could be here all night nah we're not going to go through a lot of them I will say one thing before we actually properly get into this this is a minor gripe with free stuff that you get and it's the drops the drops the drops haven't been good for a while right I can't lie but like these ones I literally on Friday I literally went to see what this drop looks like and I banged it on the the armor and I'm looking at it and I'm like this shit looks awfully familiar and it's effectively an inverted colorway of a drop that they gave away previously and you know whilst it's like never one to turn down free stuff at the same time like can we call up the channel can we get something cool like you know what I mean the diamond armor or the diamond weapon skins and now we've got an inverted colorway that a lot of people already had which doesn't look good in the first place anyway in my opinion no it's not iconic race you know what I mean it's just like what are we doing the weapon charms are nice but like I would have maybe you know what I mean they did a double kill and a triple kill weapon charm which by the way maybe like the overkill you know what I mean by the way on that throughout the entire event you obviously could get them the Friday Saturday if you didn't get them there you got them all on the Sunday so you didn't actually have to watch any of the Friday Saturday yeah yeah exactly I feel they do that quite a lot they do that to help the people that don't have the time to watch it all but I also feel like that's not they should have separated drops for if you've got the time to watch it and there was no grand finals drop either no which surprised me because the grand finals drop is normally the firest drop of the weekend you know what I mean and like it was nothing like literally nothing I also don't really understand whilst we're on this subject I don't understand the mentality of going this is a purely 4v4 event you know what I mean the main thing is 4v4 competitive settings there's no tanks, there's no warthogs there's no mongooses, there's no playing things I can't remember what it's called why have we got skins for those as a drop for a comp event I can understand it to the sense of not everybody plays ranked and a lot of the big team battle is obviously quite a popular move no for sure but like I don't know maybe it's just me because I literally only play ranked realistically or snipers when it's out which is never because they keep removing it which is great you know what I mean hopefully when match composer comes in that'll be a search option hopefully so right let's get into it let's go to the playstings man let me just find the old playstings graphic which I've saved somewhere on my phone aww look at him not even prepared no I was prepared but I had to I had to close that up because it was wigging my phone out bro here we go so it's 13th through 13th through 16th we had business bittersweet ascending baseline and sentinels yes that is correct sentinels fucking sentinels man what went wrong that is wild to me really didn't have a good weekend no they didn't 9th through 12th we had native gaming lore gaming and darkest hour point to note here is that business was taking a pool play spot but druk couldn't go to the event because I think he had a visa problem again so interesting situation there UCS said to the people on business you can still play in the pool you just have to use your coach instead of druk and they said no we don't want to do that we'll play through the open bracket and they went and picked up avenue which I respect that I like that they got all the way into the pool they didn't get into the champ bracket but they made it all the way to the pool which is fantastic and so native gaming then took their place in the pool they also didn't do too well but they did make it to the champ bracket no native didn't look great no 7th and 8th we had proton gaming oh sorry I forgot cloud9 finished top 12 as well completely missed that my thumb was in the way 7th and 8th proton gaming which slightly disappointing showing from quadrant I can't lie yeah first sign of a new team yeah they are still a good team I just feel they've got a lot to work on obviously losing legend is massive you know what I mean it's kind of one of them where it's like when it's in the controlled environment of EU where there isn't really a lot of threat to that those first and second positions like quadrant look really good they're top 2 in the region unequivocally but when you take them out of the pond and put them in the lake it's like well they sink they're not really up to scratch they're not there yet there is positives to take from it I feel like the thing is quadrant obviously because they had that record breaking run last season it's kind of like expecting them to you know what I mean than the other EU teams so maybe we're being a bit unreasonably harsh because top 8 major is still really good you know what I mean back to the drawing board on that one I think unreasonably harsh based off of another EU team which is higher for sure but like when you think about the teams that are in that number like 4-8 bracket and you've got like rebellion complexity native are hard in that bracket as well, sentinels like all 4 of them NA all 4 of them playing against good competition week in week out access to better scrims it's like I feel like it's still a good a good place in for them I'm not saying it's a bad I know what you're saying and then top 6 5th and 6th well 5-6 I guess so complexity 5-4 shout out all the boys on phone it was so fun like literally watching them play all weekend so much fun so good Wootom is the real deal should have invested in Wootom stocks wouldn't surprise me if quadrant poaching I don't think they will but it really wouldn't surprise me I'm not going to lie to you bro because considering that's what quadrant have done to foe like twice this offseason and then in 4th shopify rebellion I think they're a really strong team going forward I think they finished 7-0 on slayers 7-1 on slayers because they lost game 5 but then that's slayers fighting for their life in like losers semis or something they were never going to lose that even if I did believe they were losing that you were not convinced they were winning that shout out the snakebite godspawn behind the setup as well that was on cycle because he pushed out too far he pushed out too far yeah but even still shout out the snakebite godspawn does happen like that sometimes I guess exactly 3rd phase lost to optic twice 2-3-0 although I wanted to speak to you about this actually I watched that the first 3-0 today you told me it was a battering not the words I would use to describe it how? the games were a lot closer than I thought they were going to be based upon the way you described it I thought they got battered did you see the score? the strongholds game yeah I mean that was probably the only one phase of slayer all weekend did not look great phase didn't look great all weekend yeah their slayer really didn't yeah someone tweeted it was a strange event because obviously royal 2 normally has at least 3 moments where he just dominates the game and there wasn't a single one this time yeah I mean game 1 game 1 of the event against quadrant map 1 he had a moment where I think he picked up a double kill like in mid and then went top tower and just like deleted snipe drone off the spawn and that was just like wow snipe drone spawned in royal 2 peak and just deleted him and it was like wow next level shit but like I don't know just wasn't working I mean I swear I need to go back and find it but I'm 99% sure at one point royal 1 told renegade that he needs to play more like the team in the middle of a game not great but I mean also it's royal 1 so I feel like royal 1 speaks you kind of have to listen you know what I mean it's kind of interesting with the coaches and stuff because we know what lunchbox does for optic and we know what elamite does for ssu and we know the sort of coach that wonderboy is as well so no idea what sort of coach royal 1 is literally no idea what it is that he does for the team in terms of like because he's not incredibly vocal in the comms you know what I mean I imagine he must be heavily involved don't get me wrong I don't think he's just there holding a stopwatch but like how involved yeah it's interesting isn't it some of the coaches are like really visible and some of them aren't but then I guess best man for rebellion is kind of like that as well so then that brings us on to the top 2 absolutely banger of a grand final we had in second the hometown team, optic gaming which was you know we were convinced they weren't going to do it but I thought at one point they were and then that solitude stronghold happened this is different level of halo right now which means the winners of the event was of course space station gaming which is absolutely outstanding love to see it shout out the boy legend first European player ever to win an NA major in the history of halo absolutely record breaking stuff, it was a record breaking weekend to be fair we had first EU player ever to win a major highest place in Finnish player highest place in Dutch player highest place in M&K player first ever Mexican FFA winner and the Mexican team which was lore gaming Acid, Drift, Noble and Tapping Buttons played all the way through the open bracket made it into the champ bracket and took quadrant to game 5 in losers round 1 and they were entertaining for the entire time they were on the screen they were so good bro the storylines were just insane it was just a really good weekend the halo very very enjoyable I already can't wait for London London is going to be nuts because I feel like the thing is everyone in the building is going to be back in phone quadrant everyone and I've heard rumours of some football style champs in the works which I'm very excited about I think the French fans there was a lot of French teams that went to Blackpool and the French fans were loud like very loud so I think atmosphere wise it's going to be insane everyone is going to be back in the EU teams which I absolutely love to see and I'm hoping that they get that you know what I mean they get that little buff carries them over the hump I kind of want to see the EU team win it but I don't think they will I'm not going to lie I feel like the level of halo being played by the top American teams right now is just too good but you know what I mean it will be very interesting to see so go on bro what you saying I was going to say dog the way that the weekend went I've always said it and I think I might have said it last episode about how like if Optic play SSG and play FaZe they only win against one team and lose against the other what I was kind of disappointed about this weekend is we didn't see SSG versus FaZe that would have been nice to see sorry I took a drink of my coffee as you finished speaking I thought the window was there for me to take a sip the window was probably a yard and got slammed instantly I got ego chilled on the gulp bro I lost I lost heavy man I just G slid round the corner and got fived immediately with the coffee in hand which I'm kind of disappointed about that would have been good that's just the way that it goes you don't necessarily have to are going to play everybody and this is the thing right the brand of Chaos that FaZe brings to it stylistically is a very good match up for the brand of Chaos that SSG brings but obviously that SSG style of historically SSG is a different beast now with Legend because like the Legend bound duo is just off the chain and then you've got Stellar who like I don't give that man a sniper bro you can not give Stellar a sniper like that like when he deleted Trippy bro front S1 in the grand finals with the sniper no scope forward through the air bang gone nice one and then he came back and took his head off again yeah like literally what like how are you like it's insane it's next level stuff can't give Stellar a snipe um but yeah like you know I feel like FaZe I don't know what it was it was pretty flat yeah I think they were just flat there was nothing remarkable about FaZe this weekend which is a shame um I feel like they'll actually work in their favour because they'll just come back even more hungry yeah 100% like I feel like you know no one works harder than FaZe yeah like Snakebite no one like no one works harder than Snakebite Legend might play more Halo than Snakebite but no one works harder than Snakebite bro yeah um but yeah it was a shame that we didn't get to see it I would love to see an event where the team that wins it because I mean you know I don't think it's unfair to say that the only three teams capable of winning right now are Optic, SSG and FaZe you know what I mean I don't think that's unfair to say but I would love to see an event where the team out of those three that wins it takes down the other two I mean I guess we saw that with FaZe at the World Championship yeah I feel I feel they must have taken down SSG at some point but it's kind of like I mean and obviously we saw them do it in Season 1 at Kansas City as well um but yeah I would love to see that like because then it's unequivocally like there is no what ifs in that situation you know what I mean because it's like well what if Optic lost to FaZe how does that FaZe SSG matchup go is it the same story you know what I mean if Optic in that situation if Optic end up in the finals does FaZe beat them or if SSG come from the losers finals and have to play Optic do they have it in them to reset the bracket I as I said yesterday talking to you Optic doesn't have the legs to do a reset and win SSG and FaZe do yeah for sure which as shown yesterday it went Optic SSG Optic Optic SSG SSG like that's like my issue with the Solitude game is that Solitude I don't think is a very good map for Halo for Infinite specifically um I feel it's very it can be very one sided very quickly as shown was it 250-3 or something 250-3 like if you're constantly sticking them on the respawn as a 4 dead there is nothing you can do I'm shut out of the trophy breadstick which it was equal 11 and 2 yeah it was the highest kills overall in that game with 11 kills it was a 4 minute game like that shouldn't happen in my opinion and like obviously these are top teams and it's SSG have come out on top of this other top team in Optic but I feel like even in that sort of the top 2 teams in that event shouldn't only have a 4 minute game and it shouldn't and it shouldn't you don't see that sort of like that sort of thing happening on strongholds very often no no strongholds strongholds lifefire I don't think I don't think I've ever seen it really happen lifefire the pace is there's too many routes and the pace is too fast yeah recharge it Optic won what 250-50 something against FaZe yeah and I think I've seen Quadrant really to put the screws on someone but didn't they like 50 point club Optic on that map once possibly so it doesn't happen often but 250-3 that's like SSG going into a pub lobby and doing it I think that you know I've seen a lot of people call for it to be taken out and whilst I understand the point like I said to you yesterday and this guy on Twitter was thinking the same wavelength as me right that map and mode was good in Halo 5 because you had the movement options that the thrusters gave you and the magnum which was not as it was not as good at long range as the DMR is sorry the bandit however SSG I think the only other time SSG played that map that I saw this weekend this might be wrong was against Quadrant they had Quadrant in that blue side spawn now obviously Quadrant they were the best team in the world last season at Stronghold right they trapped them in blue exactly like Quadrant fought out of it and then trapped SSG in blue Quadrant were 5 seconds away with the trip cap SSG fight out trap Quadrant in blue and as hard as Quadrant tried they could not get more than one flag off so it can be done 100% it can be done I don't disagree that it can't be done but I feel like it's it's a slimmer chance compared to other maps to get out of it I mean the thing is it's like well yeah but you can do it the reason OpTic couldn't do it is because they weren't playing well together they weren't doing the right things at the right time I agree with what you're saying it's difficult to do but like it's like the conversation we had last night right like at some point you just have to fucking shoot your way out and if they weren't shooting their way out like I feel like it's just compared to other maps it is like all of them are difficult to get out of it if you're getting triple caps but I feel like Solitude itself is far greater of a challenge compared to the rest which I feel like is just it's not to me I don't think it should be involved If it happens to any other team I don't think I don't think anyone should No I would I have an issue with Solitude anyway Yeah you don't I don't buy Solitude I don't find it enjoyable to play so even if it wasn't OpTic and SSG and it was somebody else I'd probably still have the same opinion in the sense of it's it's just if you're not on it it is an incredibly difficult map even when you're on it it's still an incredibly difficult map because it's I find the spawns are quite erratic Because where you think they're going to be spawning isn't where they're spawning They are in matchmaking because people are fucking stupid Like people in matchmaking don't understand how to play that map like the reason why SSG are so good on that map in that game mode is because it's a Halo 5 map and they were Halo 5 world champions it's the same reason why Faze are so good on that map in that game mode you know what I mean it's the same reason why OpTic have potential on that map in any game mode like although it has been their weakest game mode map this season I think based upon like scrim results and stuff but it's it's just one of them man like yeah it has it's limitations and so does every map it's like OpTic spawn blue I think I think OpTic spawn blue off the start right which means that like they're already under threat you know what I mean they need to get out of that they need to secure a different spawn point probably Tram and then they need to impose themselves on the map which means already OpTic have to get straight away 4 dead I might be getting this wrong it might have been ESG that spawn blue I can't really remember but it's the same situation as if you go into a recharge stronghold and you spawn blue that's the bad side of the map because you know what I mean you want to like that's not where you want to be you don't want C on recharge in my opinion you want A and B when Quadrant were absolutely battering teams on recharge strongholds it's because they were spawn trapping teams in the back end of long hall where there's no way out you know what I mean it's the same philosophy as spawn trapping blue on solitude it's just you know what I mean I think it's I think what you said is true I think that they about OpTic not having the legs I think they lost that they lost that game 5 they went into that game 6 they weren't mentally prepared to take that map off space station and then I think the after effect of that was what we saw in game 7 because that game 7 wasn't particularly close at any point I don't think like you know what I mean formal drop in 2 kills like in the geezers mental was just chalked you just fried yeah that game 6 and game 7 was essentially just one big game 6 yeah you know I don't think it was I just don't think they were prepared to go the distance and had they reset the bracket I don't think they would have gone the distance twice I kind of knew that the predictions I didn't think they were even going to get I said 3rd I think if I got my note here yeah you said 3rd I didn't think they were going to get past one of them I mean they played well against FaZe I mean top 2 I mean I know it's not what they want especially not in that arena in front of that crowd but like new team it's good it's a positive you know what I mean go away and figure out that map figure out how to play solitude at that level you know what I mean I'm eagerly awaiting the formal stream we'll see what he has to say either that or the flycast appearance because the last time his mental was chalked he went on the flycast and talked about it fantastic and said that his camo didn't pop if he had camo or not but then he wasn't sure it looks like you had camo I'm pretty sure Royal2 said he also had camo you know what I mean but who knows we are I'm really on my fuck up dick hate train right now when are you not this is true to be honest maybe I'll see the next one oh dear I think that's about it for the Halo oh what that's it for the Halo that's it for the episode I think I don't think I have anything more to add really with the Halo of his consent happy days well we've got a big weekend coming up for ThaCod I see that everybody will be on the streams for the Halo we'll probably get some information out of those a couple of tweets will probably come out hopefully there's an Elemite stream so you can ask him questions I love the Elemite streams I'm waiting for the stream I'm most excited for bro do you know which one it is Wonderboy Wonderboy stream ready for the Wonderboy stream first man I'm going to be first in there yes now Wonderboy what you saying bruv my goat my top 6 goat see if we can get him on aw mate if I can get Wonderboy on do a live interview at London get Wootom's mum on aw shut up Wootom's mum man like go in we didn't even speak about Wootom bro like Wootom's the goat like he's cold as fuck he fucking they battered Cloud9 he stood up held his fucking keyboard up in the air like delivered the most Finnish interview I think I've ever said in my life which was amazing it wasn't quite on what was that boy called you know the one I'm thinking of bro who what the Finnish F1 driver not Hakanen what the Finnish F1 driver come on bruv the Finnish F1 driver yeah the one where they were like oh why didn't you go Michael J Macka's thing Raikkonen that's it it wasn't quite on Raikkonen levels but like fucking he's getting there you know what I mean but yeah Wootom's the goat shut up Wootom shut up Wootom's mum on twitter like you know what I mean she called someone a shitter and told them to fuck off did she on twitter I love that because they accused her son of hacking and she was just like you're shit so fuck yourself I love that I think getting a hacking accused is on fucking land I know man Pinchy's trying to recruit her for HCS London wants to team with her I think that would be an amazing team the amount of shit talking coming out of that team would be wild yeah it's all good until Wootom batters his mum on land and stands up and holds the keyboard fucking have that one this is the thing though right what does Wootom's mum do when Pinchy kills Wootom somehow and then screams your dog shit over the station like what happens then slaps him on the back of the head like don't talk to my son like that aw mate Pinchy vs Wootom's mum boxing you think Wootom's mum would be able to understand Pinchy I don't can't lie I don't understand Pinchy bro I've spent many an hour trying to figure that guy out I don't understand him yeah you understood he's one shotting A though didn't you 0 for 3 when pushing one shots in A top A next time yeah top control top white top BR top towel whatever you want to call it if I'm on your team and there's a one shot in A please don't tell me to push it because I'll push that shit and die every time you know what I mean no way we're 0 and 3 so let's make that 0 and 4 I think I did it again today bro guess what happened what's that I died ah yes 0 and 4 0 and 4 man oh well oh dear that's another episode done thank you everybody for listening same as always feedback please let us know good positive bad negative everything in between it all helps you know you done I like how you just if it's good or positive or it's bad or negative yeah I'm just making sure everybody knows the deal you know laying it out including the scientific community yeah you know oh fuck I've lost a raptor's eaten Forbes that was wild man I need to start muting you when I'm doing these he's going on I'm speaking of outros when are you going to pull your finger out and do an outro what do you mean when was the last time you did an outro I don't know bruv never that's when watch this then hold on everybody here we go that's it people team name podcast let us know what you think let us know what you want to see let us know if we can do anything better anything you really like we got big plans coming we're going to be developing tweaking it we're going to expand get to know team name podcast that's it done out finished get on me why don't you just finish the fucking episode then

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