TeamNade Ep12

The hosts of the podcast, TeamNade, discuss their week and various topics related to gaming and sports. They talk about their work, gaming, and watching the Super Bowl. They mention playing in the Halo competitive series and their admiration for the team FaZe. They also discuss improvements in Optic Gaming and other teams in the Halo community. They mention potential voiceover options for their podcast and share their thoughts on the recent NA Open Series. What is happening people? Welcome back to TeamNade episode 12, joined by the main man, MrForgzy98. What are you saying, bruv? How is it going? We're back. I'm good, man. I'm not so bad. It's been a quiet-ish week, I'd say. Not a lot happening for me. Had a work's meal on Friday. It was pretty average, was that right? Could be worse. You? Yeah. Working. Gaming. Watching High Love. Chilling. That's pretty much it. It's been a lot of chilling this week. Every time someone's asked me what you want me to do, I'm like, chilling. It's the standard answer. I was talking to someone the other day, I'm like, what does that actually mean? I'm like, chilling. Chilling, bro. That's what I'm doing. It's actually been a really nice weekend. We've done different things. We've had the eights and then the Super Bowl as well. It's been a nice chilled weekend. Yeah, that's another thing, isn't it? We've played eights. What time did we start on Tuesday last week? One in the morning? Yeah. Wednesday morning, working eight hours. One of Dan's came into it two and oh on the day. Two best of fives. Two best of fives. Went to bed at half three, wake up 9am, work. One of Dan's. I get it. Dedication, passion. Some would call it being a degenerate. I call it, we call it passion. We call it passion. The grind doesn't stop. The grind does not stop. That's what I say before we get into it. If you like what you're hearing, we are on Spotify. We're also on Twitter, at TeamNapod on Twitter, so go give that a follow. Follow us on Spotify. Keep up to date with all of our latest goings on. That's about it for the informational promo pitch. Shameless self plug. Yeah, man. You got to do it sometimes. You got to do it. Also, I realized that when we first decided to shout out the Twitter, it was an hour into the podcast, which is not really that good for raising awareness, but I mean, it was there. Navigate myself to Fiverr and get one of those voiceover people to start doing a voiceover at the start of this clip. We actually should. We should get the Donnie that does the announcer from Halo. You don't want to spend like 90 quid to get Sam from Lord of the Rings to do it. I mean, whilst that would be cool, I feel like we need to keep it kind of on brand. If we could find the guy that did voice lines in COD, we could get him as well. I'm sure you could get Price. Price. We should look into that. A hundred percent. We should look into that. Yeah. Just start to remember Captain Price. Oh, you can try and get Gary Oldman. He was the voice of Victor Lesnoff in World at War. Yeah. Somehow I feel like Gary Oldman might be a bit busy. Yeah, but like you saying that, there is people that you wouldn't think are on Fiverr. Yeah. One has just popped into my head and I did not assume he would be on Fiverr, but he is because I've seen the Fiverr videos. No, it's not. Oh, it's Cameo. That's the fucking, not Fiverr, it's Cameo. That's the one you want, isn't it? Yeah. Fiverr is where you pay people like five quid to... Some of them are spanning out, by the way. Yeah, it's like a pound shop. Have you ever been to one of those? A pound shop that isn't a pound shop? Yeah. You're like, oh, it's a pound shop and you go in and like... Everything's a pound. All that random crap is a Fiverr. Inflation hitting hard. Even the pound shops are getting hit by this. Yeah, they're no longer, they're pounding our bet. They're pounding our bet shelves now. Exactly. But yeah, man, it's been a pretty exciting week in Halo, I can't lie. There's been a lot going on. We played Ates twice. The Meg McMuffin Ates competitive series, shout out. Get in there and the Meg McMuffin Discord if you're not already there and you can test your mettle against some of the finest Halo players. Sorry, I got distracted then. I looked out the window again, Ruff. You know how it is. Get curtains. I've got curtains, bro. They're half closed as well because it's freezing and I'm trying to keep the heat in. Mate, that's twice recently that it's happened. First, you're in the middle of a game watching an angle and now in the middle of a podcast you're doing it. Come on, man. I know. I need to stay focused on the objective at hand. So, NA Open number two. Did you watch any of it on LBT? Was this the one where Championship Sunday was actually Championship Saturday? Championship Saturday, yeah, because the games obviously this week, Friday, Saturday for NA, everyone else was Saturday because of the Super Bowl, which we might talk a little bit about later when we get to the NFL rant section right at the end of the podcast. No, because Panther's not in there, so you can't have a rant about it. Yeah, I'm still annoyed, Ruff. Oh, for God's sake. But yeah, man. So, NA Open Series number two. Yeah. What did you think? I'm just... I'm fed up of FaZe. I have to. I'm just fed up. It's not even like week two out of the year, Forbes has already fed up of FaZe, man. Forbes is already fed up of FaZe, man. Why, bro? Why are you fed up of FaZe? What is it about them that annoys you so much? They're just... you just can't... you just can't stop them. You know what I mean? They're just... they're just a final. They're just a final. It's just like the level of coordination and communication those boys put together. It's also the fact that you can't finish them. You just can't kill them. You know what I mean? Like, you get one... you'll have like three of them one shot, all of them will just escape. Yeah, just melt into the map. It is the most jarring thing to watch and probably to play. Like, I wouldn't... Yeah, I imagine playing them would be difficult. Yeah, 100%. Like, they'd be the hardest people to play up against because no matter what they did, like, even when you think they're having a bad map, they're just like a dormant volcano. Yeah, like, I feel that's the thing, man. Like, they're just always... you know, as we were saying with the COD phase team, like, or the phase COD team, I shouldn't say, you've got to be perfect 100% of the time, I feel, to take a map off them. Like, you can't have any mental slip-ups. You have to know exactly what to do, where to go at all times, because they are just that good. Like, it was that... I think it was the grand final against OpTic, the Aqua Flag game, and like, they were just... it was like they were playing a completely different game. Like, in terms of timings, like, what they would do, you know what I mean? Just everything about it was just, like, a level above what OpTic were capable of putting out. Yeah. Which, obviously, you know, brings me on to my next question. OpTic Gaming, you watched them last week, you watched them this week. Any improvements to be seen? Like, what were you saying? Yeah, so, there's improvements. It's... they got to the grand final, so that's obviously an improvement. I feel like it's going to take a little bit longer for them to gel as a team to what they want. Yeah, I would agree with that. Obviously, you've taken Deadzone out of the SSG, and that is a very specific play style and a team play, because if you look at the SSG, they faltered to losers this week. They took Legend in, because obviously they're trying to mold him into the player they want him to be, because he's the long-term pickup over Monster, who's just the sub. Yeah. So, trying to change Deadzone from SSG to OpTic and how OpTic play will be... it'll take a lot longer than I think everybody's expecting it to. Yeah, for sure. I think especially for the sort of player he is as well, because it's like, obviously, Renegade joins FaZe, or whichever way around you kind of want to look at that, because I feel like obviously Renegade was on FaZe before Frosty, Royal 2, Snakebite came along, but then also, I don't look at that team as Renegade's team. Yeah, I mean, it's not like he's gone like, I want these three players, it's more those three players have gone where we want him to be the fourth. You know what I mean? Obviously, it took a little bit of time for him to find his feet in that system. But I feel like because Renegade's play style is potentially a little bit more direct, Deadzone slash Penguin is a little bit more... I want to say objective orientated, which it certainly is. That's not to take anything away from Ezreal Slayer. He's an absolute good man. But that, you know, if APG was the objective guy before, APG and Deadzone have completely different play styles, in my opinion. Yeah. So it is going to take a bit of time. It's the same as, obviously, like you said, SSG with Legend, although SSG going down to the losers bracket, that doesn't really ring any alarm bells for me. I can't lie. No, it's a little bit different from the week before. But as I say, it was... Yeah, but Monster's the GOAT, bro. But you know what I mean? Monster's the greatest ever to pick up a controller. I mean, he did take Native up to top four, top three. Exactly. You know, it's the same with SSG. It's the same with Quadrant. Now they've picked up... Well, I was kind of reminded of this today. Quadrant officially haven't picked up Gloria. He's just playing with them. There's been no announcement. So... We'll see if he fits into the lineup and how his play style matches with everybody else. Yeah, I think that's the thing. I was watching Jimbo's stream the other day and someone brought this question up to him about whether Quadrant have made the right decision. Yeah. I mean, I don't know whether this was a team... You know what I mean? Getting into it, Legends obviously now moved to NA, playing with one of the biggest teams in the world. I don't know if you can brew it down to whether it was a Quadrant decision, an SSG decision or a Legend decision. You know what I mean? As to make that move. But you know, Jimbo was saying that Gloria is as talented as Legend individually, but sees the game in a completely different way. Okay. So obviously, the Quadrant guys are going to have a lot of work to do to understand how he wants to play situations. And if he is the fourth, he's going to have a lot of work to do to understand how they want to play situations. But I think that's the thing, man. It's just going to take time. There's obviously a big meta shift. I mean, we've seen Quadrant on LAN with Bandit, so we kind of know what that looks like already. But only time will tell, effectively. You know what I mean? I think they came, Quadrant came second again this week to Foe, which is Jimbo, Snipedrone, Mighty's, Wootom. Foe didn't even drop a map for the entire event, which is insane. It's only slightly more insane than the fact that they haven't been picked up by an organization yet. I find that equally as wild, which, I mean, we kind of chatted about this the other day a little bit, but what do you think the likelihood is of them either getting picked up by Quadrant, or maybe another partnering team in the league? I don't think it'll be Quadrant. I think it'll be another organization, but I feel like it's running out of time to do it. Yeah, for sure. It's gotta happen soon. It might already be out of time, you know what I mean? Because if this team is now going back-to-back, not dropping a map on the second run, who the fuck's sitting back and not picking them up? You know what I mean? Well, the reason I say Quadrant is obviously Quadrant are an EU organization, so it's like, it wouldn't necessarily make sense to me for Quadrant to pick them up, especially when they've had so much success with the core of players that they currently have, you know what I mean? And they're adding in another potential superstar caliber player. But if it's going to be a big EU org that's already invested in Halo, then my money would be on Quadrant. Unless Na'Vi just suddenly decide that they want to get back involved, but I don't really see that. I think that there would be a lot of moving parts involved with that. I don't think they'd be partnered by the HCS either. Do you reckon that they'd just go in as an all-pin team? Well, I think that's what they'll do if they don't get... I mean, I feel from watching Jimbo's streams, they're already nailed on to attend the first event in America. Regardless of what their performances were going to be, they were always going to that, is the impression that I get. I'm assuming that if you... Because these tournaments now are for seeding and stuff for the LAN events. So I'm assuming that if you seed very highly for your region, that you will get travel coverage from the league, I think. Don't quote me on that. I feel that would be the way that it works, because that's the way that it's worked previously. So as long as they keep competing, they shouldn't really have any issues with getting there. It's just I would 100% like to see them picked up. One of the ideas that I had was maybe... Because Cloud9, not doing the greatest in Halo at the moment. Would Cloud9 potentially look at picking up a roster from outside of NA? Would it be good for them? I don't know. But then, will Cloud9 want to pick up a roster from outside of NA? Or are they committed to the project that they've got going on? Probably. I guess for them, it would be a case of how much money it would cost, because business-wise, they look very keen to cut down on their outgoings. Yeah. So I guess it would depend what the demands were in terms of salaries and stuff like that. I can't imagine them having a large requirement for a salary, but possibly the cost of getting people back and forth. That's another thing. It's going to be expensive. I suppose if you look at it from the Cloud9 perspective, if they have all four of their players already within America... Because where are the events? Texas, Atlanta, Salt Lake City, Seattle. America is a big place, isn't it? It's not like the UK where you can drive from one end to the other inside of nine hours. I may need to get a flight check on that one. That's definitely... Well, you'd know. You're from the end of the world. You can get from Aberdeen to Liverpool in seven, eight. Oh, maybe it'll be like 12 hours then to drive from the top to the bottom. I don't know. But you know what I mean? It's going to be obviously travel costs in that. And that's where you get the visas as well. Yeah, before you get the visas. We've already had the visa gods claim a few. I'm not convinced. I don't really know how this works with visas for players going into America to play at events. It'll be like a work visa. I don't know. I guess it depends if... Well, I don't know. It'll be as close as their work, technically. Well, yeah, technically. But then my understanding was that any money that they won in prize pools, they kept the majority of it. So it's not like they're working on behalf of a company to create value for the company. But then technically they are, because they're representing their brands. Yeah, it's all franchised. Yeah. So I don't really know. It's out of our debt, to put it that way. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, if anyone's got any insider knowledge that you'd like to give to us... Just anything. There's not this. Anything at all. Yeah, literally. Any insider knowledge. I've got lots of gaps in my knowledge. Please, fill it out. We need to get the Fabrizio Romano of Halo Rastamania on the phone, bro. We need to find out who that is. Who would that be? I don't know. HCS Pro Talk know what that goes on. They know HCS Pro Talk know a lot. If anybody's got the HCS Pro Talk phone number, let us know. The hotline. Yeah, we'll take this, boys. Talk to them. But yeah, a little Rastamania moves. So obviously, I can't remember if I mentioned this last week or not, but you've kind of touched on it as well. But Neptune out at Native Gaming, they picked up Monster, the greatest online player ever seen in any game ever, to be their substitute. Which apparently the rumor was that if they couldn't get a fourth going forward... Oh, sorry. Rewind a little bit. So they scrimmed with It'sTheLastShot, who is the current FFA world champion. Okay. And has some experience competing online in 4v4s. The guy is crack, he's really good. But then, basically on deadline day, two minutes to midnight, APG's live on stream. He's got an announcement today in the thing, and he's just announced that they're gassed to be going forward with this guy. And that they're looking forward to the season. I think it's gonna be really good. He gets a text from It'sTheLastShot saying that he's gonna be teaming with them and he's going to a different team, a different roster. Oh, dear. And APG was like, literally, it was wild, bro, right? It was like, watching it, everyone's vibing. I think I went to the shop or something, came back, APG's in, he's just super fucked off. The Twitch chat is like, everyone's fuming. It was just like, what manner of thing has happened here in the five minutes I've been gone? But yeah, so that's happening. So apparently, word on the street is Native Gaming's new fourth could be potentially Barcode, all the way from Australia. Which, I'm there for it. I'm all for that. Visa issues, obviously. Visa's situation being worked out fully. I mean, Native, obviously, was at the crux of the visa problem with Druk last season. So it's kind of like, I feel they know how to maneuver around it, who they need to speak to, what's going on with it. Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully. Because I really don't want to see... I mean, all jokes aside, Monster obviously is a very good player. He just has that mental block when he gets to a LAN. Yeah. Other rumors are available, if you would like to go and subscribe to those. I'm sure everyone's heard at least one rumor surrounding Monster. Um, but I really think that the players that are on Native Gaming deserve more than just to be an online team. You know what I mean? Because I would hate for them to get to LAN, to get to a point where they need all four members of their team to show up. And it doesn't happen because Monster is, for whatever reason, not, you know, available to perform to the required level. You know what I mean? Barcode was a gunner when he was on the Australian teams online. So it's like, he clearly has no issues competing in that environment. So that'd be nice if that happens, hopefully. It'd be pretty cool to see. Um, I think we're also like a month out now from the first Halo 1 event of the season, which is very, very exciting news. Super gas. That's going to be gas. I hope the drops are good though, I can't lie. No, the drops are never good. They've got no variation. Yeah, I feel like the drops in season one were class because you got the like, I think like, which one was the first event that I properly watched? Was I think Kansas City? Yeah. Like, and like the drops for that event were class, like because they had different weapon coatings, different armor coatings, emblems, nameplates, and they had all kinds of different stuff. And then as it crept on, like the drops slowly got a little bit worse and a little bit worse. And then all the diamond stuff that they had at Worlds, that was sick. And then, you know, I mean, it kind of got to season two and it's just like, oh, well watch for two hours and get this armor coating for all of your armor cores. And it's like, yeah, that's cool. But cross core coatings should have been a thing from the very start. And you've basically gone, well, we used to give you seven drops across mainstreamed, co-streamed, creators, like all of this in all different categories. Now we're giving you seven drops, but it's one armor coating. So it's realistically just one drop. You know what I mean? I feel like, you know, I want to see nutty stuff. Yeah, something that really takes the cosmetics to the next level. Yeah, exactly. Because I feel like cosmetics, like, you know, I got a few compliments on the drip in the eights lobby. I can't lie, bruv. Yeah, but you spent hours trying to find the right fucking drip. I did, I did. But like, you know what I mean? It was like in the middle of the day and you're like, I'll make sure I get the right drip off for tonight. In the words of Deon Sanders, bro. If you look good, you feel good. And if you feel good, you play good. And if you play good, then they pay good. It didn't stop you from falling off the map, though, did it? No, it didn't. No. But like, you know, maybe I was feeling too good. So I was just G sliding off of every available surface. Didn't stop you from happening in that life player game though, did it? It was on that curbside grind. What do you mean, bro? Oh, you don't know what you're talking about, no? 7-15. I can't win a gunfight on 90mms. Snapping. Let's talk about it, bro. Let's talk about these eights. Let's talk about these eights. What are you saying about the shot? You're gonna do me like that? You're gonna come to my house and do me like that live on air, bro? Yeah. Mate, you were a type of... You were a keyboard warrior in the text chat. Still dropped an over on you though, didn't I? Yeah, you dropped an over on me. But what did you say before we came on this today? Well, that it wasn't a fantastic over. Yes, exactly. Yeah, I mean, three quarters of the kills were... In fact, I think everyone was one shot. But it was a clean up overkill. But at the same time, like, you know, I spoke to someone else who was in that lobby who said that that individual action stopped your momentum and put you on the back foot. Yeah, who said that? That was Luke Smith. Shout out. Obviously, it's Luke Smith. Yeah, but he's retired now, so... He has retired, yeah. We, you know, fived him straight back into the gulag. Multiple times. My man got the rear, went straight back. Ah, Luke Smith, man. It was actually, like, it was class to see him... On the comeback. On the comeback, back on. And like, you know, it was enjoyable playing with him in a slightly different environment. Yeah. So, like, you know, let's talk about these eights, man. How do you feel about them? Oh, they're super fun. It's nice to play the sort of best of three, best of five. Competitive call outs and trying and whatever else. But, like, not feeling, like, if you do something bad or you're not as good as other people, you're not going to get shouted at about it. You're not going to be put down. For sure. I think that was, like... It's just all fun, you know what I mean? Like, at the end of the day, it's like, you don't win or lose anything. It's just, ah, we lost the game. Oh, well. There's nothing wrong if you're a competitive person. It's not nice to lose. And it's not nice to get gunned by better people. But, you know, like, the game that we played, like, the last series, the best of three, the last one before we went and watched the Super Bowl. Yeah. Absolutely. We got railed up. We were entirely driven all over. Yeah, we got f***ed on by a car. But I still had so much fun doing it, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Like, it was good fun. And the series where it was, like, the first time we were split up, I had so much fun shooting your body every time. Oh, yeah. I mean, you specifically went out to shoot each other and hit each other's body. We're getting shot. But, like, I don't care. I'll die for this. I've made a deal with a madman. I even top mid just to drop the team. I got it. There was a point I got fived, you know. I was so close to just stopping mid-gunfight against somebody else just to type out fived. Even if you did, I wouldn't have seen it. You literally would have been coming back to the people that you were already in a Discord chat with. Just to send you a... I would have stopped just to send you a Discord message to hear the ping up on your ear. Be like, oh, for fuck's sake. My guys navigated to the stream just to go clip that and then type fived into the Twitch chat. It's really fun just to not get... To have somebody in your ear being like, oh, that was a shit play. What the fuck do you mean? 100%. How do you lose that? Yada, yada, yada. It was, you know, I feel from all of the games that we played, you know, open to... Well, literally anyone, really. Anybody that's in the Discord. Yeah, anyone that's in the Discord. A vast range of skill levels, which is nice. It was a very welcoming community. I feel like as well, right? Because obviously me and you were not... Obviously this was a... So this is like an NA Discord server from a NA creator. And everyone kind of knows each other or knows of each other. Yeah. So obviously for me and you going in, at the start it was a little bit like... Yeah, I love it. It's like, we're kind of like the outsiders here. So let's just see what happens. But everyone was super welcoming. Everyone's super nice. Like, you know, there was no... Who the fuck are these guys? Yeah, there was none of that. There was no toxicity. Like everyone was just free to play their own game. Like, you know, it was nice. It was a lot of fun. I had heaps of fun. Did enjoy it. Yeah, I'd do it. I'd do it every single weekend if it was on, you know what I mean? Like it's so much fun. I mean, like I said to you in LA, what, second quarter in the Superbowl was just like, I really want to play eights again. Yeah, this is like two in the morning. I only want to play eights again. Let's get the ping out. Send out a bat signal. What? Is that funny? It's just middle of the fucking Superbowl, two in the morning. Everybody, all the Americans are going to be watching the Superbowl. You're like, anybody want eights? They'd look at your message and be like, who the fuck is this? Deja vu. Someone would have taken the bait. Someone like, yeah, I'm guaranteed someone. Yeah, you. It would have been me and you 1v1'ing each other. Luke Smith's on it as well. There we go, we need five more people. But yeah, man, shout out Meg for organizing it. Shout out everyone that we played with or against. Yeah, super nice to meet everybody. I was going to go through a list of everyone that we played with. There was literally so many people that I can't remember everyone. I'm not going to lie to you. My memory's shocking anyway. But it's nice to meet everybody and meet new people and have more of a foot in that sort of NA community. Community, that's the word. Yeah, it's the NA community. Because obviously we can get into the EU community quite easily through the sauna. And get involved in that. But I found more toxicity in the EU sauna than I ever have anywhere else. Yeah, I'm not going to lie, man. From the top here, Halo seems to be a game that breeds a certain level of... I'm going to say toxicity in all players, right? Yeah, I don't know why. That is just a thing. Maybe it's games in general now, right? But in EU, that seems to be taken to the next level. I mean, we've had... I got some coaching tips from someone. You got me on a piece of advice regarding picking up life rifles. And why you shouldn't do it. You know what I mean? You know, obviously I don't really know. What the toxicity level is like in NA lobbies. Like, I mean, I've been in NA lobbies and people have been calling me trash and stuff. We had it the other day where the boy screamed at me because we stole his over. Yeah, and then he attempts to steal my over. He did. That was funny. I mean, and this is the thing, right? It's like the EU community is so small that can go on, play a game, and maybe two or three of the people that we've just played against will also be in the sauna. Yeah. And also seeing, you know, I mean, it's its own thing, right? But seeing the way that the conversations go down and stuff like that, it kind of as an outsider, it's like, I'm not sure that I would be welcomed here as much. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it just, it does kind of like, you know, give you the impression that you jump in there and make one mistake and someone's going to be at your throat, which is, you know, I'm all for constructive criticism. Oh, but there's constructive criticism. You're just going to say shit just to be a dick then. Yeah, it's constructive criticism and then they're putting somebody down. Yeah, exactly. There's a way of going about it and half the time in the EU, it's not, they're not great at doing it. No, I mean, I feel that like, you've got a kind of... There's a way of saying it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of the EU folk don't have that. But then maybe it's because it's such a small community and they all know each other. Possibly. Maybe this is the thing. Maybe, you know, obviously, like, if you're looking at a group of friends or a group of people that know each other, the jokes, quote unquote, are going to be a bit more brutal than, you know, they're going to seem brutal to you because you're not in it, if that makes sense. Yeah. You know what I mean? So who knows, man, but... Maybe, maybe not. Oh, well, who knows? You know what I mean. Who knows indeed. Excuse me. I think that was our weekend, wasn't it? Yeah, it was pretty much it. Played out, got barred. Got barred. Superbowl. Re-run. Culture blast. That was my Sunday night. Yeah, a little bit at five in the morning. Morning dogs. Yeah, let's go. I think that's pretty much it for Halo. I can't play, bro. It's alright then. Oh, no, hang on. Matchmaking. Obviously, ranked matchmaking, scuffed right now. Super scuffed, like, bro, who've we played? We've played the casters. We've played... Oh, yeah, we've played... Open, open, open, top, open. Who was the top open winner? Like, they were in the top open. Oh, Bastos. Yeah. We played the Bastos-Shiesty-Sandelf three stack. That was really fun. Yeah, that's so much fun to be playing against in Diamond 1. Oh, no, sorry, no. Respectful in the mains. Respectful, who was part of Na'Vi, then was part of Ascend, then went to a world championship, then refused to play. Yeah, I think it's alright. I find it so strange, because last season, you were Diamond 6, nearly Onyx. I was Diamond 5, middle of Diamond 5. We didn't play any of these. We didn't play any of them. But then you do the placements games, you get Diamond 1, Plat 6, Diamond 1. Yeah. And we're getting put into the lobbies with these Onyx players. They're the competitive actual players as well. Yeah. I mean, like, why is that a thing? You know, I don't know. I'm Diamond 3, I think, right now. Yeah, so you're Diamond 3. I'm still sitting Diamond 1, Diamond 2. And we're getting into these such competitive lobbies. It's mental. But it's kind of like yesterday, I was Diamond 3. I was playing a bit during the day. And about three or four games in a row, like, I had Arbiter on my team more against me, you know what I mean? And there was also another boy in that lobby, but I can't mind who it was. Who was also, like, someone that is pretty big in European Halo, you know what I mean? Part of me thinks it's because the way that it's, like, working out the games is to go, okay, so we've got, like, an Onyx 1600 stacking with an Onyx 1500. We've got this guy who's Diamond 3 and a Diamond 1. So that's a team. And then on the other team, we've got, you know, like, an Onyx 1900, a Diamond 6, a Diamond 3, and a Plat 1. And that then evens it out to make a team, you know what I mean? Which, I can't lie, like, I'm enjoying it from the point of view of getting to play players that I know are a lot better than me. You know, and that's obviously always a good experience. Like, you get to see, you know, well, I feel like individually, it's a good experience, because you're going to get railed, like, you're just going to get absolutely shafted. But you also then get to see what players that are better than you are doing, you know what I mean? So, like, in, like, a 1v1 gunfight, like, you can see sort of, like, the individual level of, like, where you stack up, like, you know what I mean? On a macro sort of team basis, you get to see the sort of plays that they're trying to make based upon the information that they have, like, so that's always a good thing. Where it gets bad is when... I can't say the respawn screen. Yeah, like, you just can't really do anything. Like, I mean, when, you know, obviously, like, when we played Respectful and the other guy, like... They knew exactly where we were spawning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, they knew exactly where we were spawning, knew exactly what we were doing, because they just have that, that's just the level of player that they are, like, you know what I mean? Obviously made it pretty difficult to get into the game, but, you know, it is what it is. I think the bigger problem was that, obviously, like, you would get people that, like, I would say, maybe bigging ourselves up there a little bit, but I would say that, like, me and you kind of have, like, a decent understanding of the way that a game should be played, or, like, you know what I mean? So, like, we know what to go and do, right? Yeah. But when you get someone in the lobby who is not like that, it's just not going to be anything that they want to have anything to do with ever again. You know what I mean? Like, if you're, like, a Plat 1, or a... What's below Platinum? Is it Silver? Gold. Gold. Gold. Gold? You know what I mean? Like, if you're, like, a Gold 6 player, or you're a Silver player, but then you're matching against people that are, like, two or three full ranks above you, that's a problem. Yeah, because you're just playing that game. Yeah, exactly. It's not dominated. You know what I mean? Like, that's a massive issue. Apparently, I think I saw a tweet yesterday saying that they published a back-end update to Matchmaking, where it should have fixed that issue. I can't really comment on that. Like, I haven't played since that's happened, so I don't really know. But, you know, hopefully that will result in... Like, the main thing for me, especially with the ranking system, is, like, as long as they've fixed the thing where you only get, like, plus three, plus five for a win, but you lose 10 or 15 for a loss, even though you're miles away from the rank that you were operating at previously, like, I think that that is a major issue for me. I don't really care about the loy makeup or anything. I saw they fixed that before, where you gained more than you lost, most of it, like, you'd lost, like, a smaller amount. Then they changed it, so you got... It was, like, a large amount before, and then they changed it, so you lost a smaller amount, so you didn't look... Because you would grind for so much and actually be net zero by the end of the day, because the amount that you lost compared to what you win. Yeah, like, I think that was, like... That's just the way that, like, TrueSkill 2 works for some reason, because, like, basically, like, it has the... There's, like, that hidden matchmaking number, like, which the game assigns to you based upon everything that you do, basically. How many kills you get, what your movement's like on the map, stuff like that, right? And then with the ranking system, it uses that as a basis to who you should be playing, or it used to, they've changed it now, apparently, although it keeps going backwards and forwards for some reason. And then the closer that your CSR value, so, like, your ranking, gets to your hidden value, which is the MMR, then it slows down games and increases losses. Right. So, like, if you have, I don't know, a 1500 MMR and you're plat 6, you'll get loads for a win, because the game thinks you should be an Onyx 1500. But the closer you get to it, you'll lose more as it kind of balances and evens itself out. And obviously, like, that MMR changes over time as well. So, like, if you go into five games and go zero for 100, that's going to drop off, like, it's going to drop off a stone. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because the game will then go, like, oh, like, yo, this guy, we thought he was this level, but he's actually not. But it's just a weird matchmaking system. It's why, like, the ranks don't really mean anything. Yeah. Realistically. Like, obviously, like, the top players being the top ranks, like, makes sense. Oh, yeah, definitely. But, you know what I mean? If you kind of look at it in the perspective of the top players, right? If Lucid is, like, 2300 and Renegade is 1900, does that mean Renegade is a worse player than Lucid? No, absolutely not. No. But, yeah, so that hopefully should be fixed. So, hopefully, there won't be any weird lobbies going on. Although, like, low-key, I do think it's a little bit of a shame. Depends on your stance on it. Well, you can't get better unless you play better people in it, realistically. But it does get rough. I think there's a fine line between... Yeah, there really is. Like, there really is. You need better than you, not miles better than you. Yeah, because that's the thing, man. Yeah. Like, if you're an amateur sprinter and you've just dusted Bob from down the road, you don't want to pull up to the park and get matched against Usain Bolt. You know what I mean? Because, like, he'll just dust you and you'll just be like, what the fuck? Yeah, how the fuck am I meant to compete? Yeah, like, why am I having to race this guy? The fastest man on earth. Like, what the fuck? No way. Shout out Usain Bolt, man. Does bits in Manchester. No, not a name I thought I'd hear on this podcast ever. What, Usain Bolt? Yeah. Reckon he'd be cracked at Halo, you know? Right. I hope we got to that conclusion, man. I don't know. I just reckon he'd be gutted. Right. He's a pro athlete, isn't he? I feel like all pro athletes are just fucking crack at video games. Are they, though? I don't know. Like, at Manchester City, is he playing? No, he doesn't play for City anymore. Arsenal left back, whose name we will not mention, filled in for his Counter-Strike team the other day. Oh, yeah. Ended better than the boy that they filled in for. I think so, yeah. Mental. Oh, yeah. Call of Duty. What's happening? Fuck all. Just being quite straight to the point. No, it's fine. Thank you for listening to Team Ned episode 12. Hope you enjoyed it. Fuck all happening in CoD, really. There's a couple of changes here and there, but it's like nothing major, major. So the last time that we... Last week, we didn't have the... Well, we had the patch... So the patch wasn't out yet, because it was on the Tuesday. So last week, Wednesday, would have been the... 8th? 7th. 7th of... of February, with the Season 2 update. We're not going to run through heaps of the update stuff, because not everybody's interested in it. The thing I'm going to read is that they've ruined the game. They haven't ruined the game. How have they ruined the game? How? Because the MCW's trash. It's not... Yeah. It's not trash, it's just not... It's more towards subs. But anyway, so on that, the MCW was nerfed in the sense of it increased the ADS and sprint-to-fire times. Now, it didn't massively nerf it. It's still good, but it means, like, for the ranked stuff, the subs are more viable. Yeah. Which, they've nerfed it, but they've also, in the ranked, they've taken out every other AR, so the only AR you can use is the MCW. What they need to do, if they want subs to be viable, is to nerf their trash-ass map design. Yeah, their maps are all designed for ARs. It's all long-range gunfights, most of the time. Yeah. But I mean, you know, it's... It's one of them, they're, like, you know, they're playing the nostalgia card. Yeah, frankly, it went everybody back. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I guess, like, obviously, back in the day, like, running a sub in some of these wider open spaces was probably a little bit easier because people didn't have ridiculous refresh rates and frames and all of this stuff so that they could... You know what I mean? The visibility wasn't as good. Yeah, true. I don't know whether the sort of recoil and damage values were in that time. Obviously, there was, but, like, you could still use a UMB, a cross-map, and you'd be all right. Well, I mean, I'll take your word for that one, bro. Yeah. That's fucking right. That was right. It's the game I played the most. I had, like, 72 days playtime on that game. That's disgusting, mate. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, don't even talk about that. On that degenerate drive since 2008. Let's go. Born to degen. I don't think this is the right term. So then other changes, they decreased the delay before the health regen starts, and then they increased the health regenerate rate. Health regenerate rate. Health regeneration rate. There you go. Thank you. So it's kind of, it's... I don't know if it's a positive change, but it's also kind of annoying when you think, oh, that boy's one shot, but by the time you even get around the corner and back to him, he's back to full health. It's like, ah, it's kind of annoying. But it means for faster gameplay and more active gameplay, I feel. Yeah, I think that's the thing. Like, it has sped up the pace of the game, I think. Yeah. I mean, just touching back on the MCW a little bit, like, the changes that they've made just makes it feel horrible now. Yeah. Like, it's not really done a lot to the gun, but it just doesn't feel as nice as it did before. Yeah. Well, I've started looking forward to more of the sub on most maps now. Yeah. It's just the way it is, though. But there's like, again, there's some maps that you have to use AR. You've got no real choice. Because there's just not... Invasion. Yeah, invasion is most of the AR map. There's nothing you can do to change that and to put it back into your favor. Apart from, like, hiding the build, like, stay inside the buildings. But then, as soon as you come out of those buildings, you're into long-range gunfights again. You think that, you know, personally, like, part of me thinks that the balance issue between the AR and the sub is the fact that the AR is so good close up. Personally. Good, but I don't know. The rival does just delete people. It's down to the shotgun, just like the VAZ was. Oh, yeah, for sure. But, like, on those maps where, like, everyone should run in an AR, right? So, like, the invasions, skid rows. Yeah, sub-based to an extent. I feel like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, because the sightlines are so long, like, anyone that's running a sub has to get really close to you to be able to output the same amount of suppressive fire that you can. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, so if you're in that top blue P2 hardpoint, right? With the AR. Yeah. Someone with a sub realistically can't chow you in a dangerous way. Yeah, until they're in the building. You know what I mean? Like, but, you know what I mean? But it's like, if someone with an AR walks up the stairs, then the result is going to be... I don't know. I just think that, like, something needs to happen to balance it out properly. Like, if they want it to be, like, a higher percentage pick, right? Then there needs to be some sort of, like, serious look at it, not just, bang, let's get rid of whatever it is that they've done. Even if you nerf the MCW even more, it's still going to be the same gun that everyone uses on those maps because it's long range. And your damage range for your sub will drop off drastically after a certain point. Oh no, man. To help try and balance this issue with the long-range gunfights, obviously they added in Rio last season, Season 1, which then, after a couple of scrims and playing it and whatever else, they've changed the ranked and competitive modes. So Skid Row S&B is out, which is then replaced by Rio. And then Terminal Hardpoint is also being taken out and is replaced by Rio Hardpoint. And that's because Rio is a very sub-heavy map. There is long-range... It's tiny, basically. There is two long-range lines of sights, but mostly it's subs. And that's a good thing, in my opinion. The map isn't that bad. People complain about it, not saying it's good for ship mapping, etc. There's the dicey spawn points on P2 for Hardpoint. But every map has that, like Invasion. Invasion is a wild spawn point. There's complaints about it, but you suck it up. You get on with it, unfortunately. There's not much we can do about that. You just have to learn how to manipulate them to the best of your ability. I haven't played it on S&B yet in ranked, but I think it plays okay for Hardpoint. I think it plays really well for Hardpoint. It's nice that... I feel like one of the good things about it as well, obviously with these maps that we've got currently, they feel so big that if you don't rotate at the right time... Obviously, if you don't rotate at the right time, then you're going to lose time on the hill, right? But it does feel like if you don't rotate at the right time, you're just not getting it. And it's just like, all right, great. Because we waited literally an extra two seconds here, we've lost 60. Whereas with Rio, it does feel more... Because the map is so small, it's like, well, we can kind of finish up here. We can go over there. We can get there. There's more of a time slot. There's less trouble to break it. Yeah, it's a lot more free-flowing. It just feels a lot nicer. And it's an original map for this game? It is. Which is always nice to see. It's nice to see original maps get involved. With season two as well, they released the BP50 and the RAV9. Have you used any of those yet? No, I've not used any of them. The BP50 is currently being tested in scrims, but it's been instantaneously banned in ranked and competitive at the moment. Hmm. Seeing gameplay of it, it's a beam. It shoots beams. Like, ridiculous. And I don't know if it ever will get to ranked on that basis. I mean, the MCW is exactly the same. Like, I saw, I think it was a video of, like, Keister beaming someone from... The coffin and invasion all the way to the top of their meds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And it's like, I think it was Daffy who was like, this is why it's been GA'd. And someone replied to him and was like, shocking, breaking news, pro player hit shots that he would have hit with the allowed AR anyway. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's like, well, if you want to break it down into what we've actually just seen, that's exactly what we've seen. Like, this guy is already using a gun that has next to no recoil on it before you even think about starting to control it. Yeah. Like, this new gun has no recoil on it. Apparently, it's not as strong at long range as the MCW. And it's nowhere near good enough close range to deal with someone in your face with a rival. So if it's literally only good at that mid range, then maybe that's the sort of thing... You know what I mean? Like, it's not super oppressive at long range. It's goaded in the mid range, as is the MCW. And it's not that good up close to compete with the rival. Is this not something that's a good thing, then? That weird middle ground. You know what I mean? Like, you need something that'll do everything. And if you've only got one that'll do the middle ground, then you'll take the MCW. Well, yeah, for sure. But I mean, like, kind of what I'm getting at is like, you can hit... Like, clearly, you could hit shots with it long range, right? Yeah. But, like, if it's... Say it takes that one extra bullet to kill at the furthest damage range. Yeah. Then that allows, like, that person then to... You know what I mean? Like, I feel like it just would make it slightly more competitive because there's more option than opportunity for an outplay. Yeah. From the person getting beamed. Like, you know what I mean? It's not like, oh, I've been caught crossing an open area by a guy with an MCW, so I'm dead in five shots. It's more like, well, you know, if I react fast enough to this situation, potentially I can get out, potentially I can land shots back on target. Potentially, you know what I mean? Like, I feel it just opens the door for that a little bit more of a competitive viability. Yeah. And then because it's not as good at the longer range, it means that the subs come into it a little bit more because they are okay at the mid-range and incredibly good up close. You get what I'm saying? Like, you take out that long-range gunfight, it means that people can't just sit on headies all the time, beaming everyone that comes near them. So maybe it would switch up the matter of the way the game is played a little bit. I don't know. I feel like people are still going to sit on those headies and try do that because even if they don't beam you off that far side, they're still going to be on that heady for you. And then you've got to try to adapt yourself to get behind them. But, I don't know. It just surprises me that, like, instantly they're just like, no. I feel like they've done that. I don't think it's because it's too good. I think they've done it because there is no testing on it. Like, the pros have not tested it and done stuff with it to see if it'll work. Because obviously the ranked playlist is all based off of what the pros do and say. Hence why you can only use one smoke. You can only use a smoke in an S and D. You can't use it in hardpoint. So it's based off of what they want. So obviously they've not had the chance to try it. That's why they're testing it in scrims with the RAM9 sub to see if that's viable. And then they'll probably put it in. But I don't see it coming in. Because they want to control the MCW. And plus they've already had enough issues with, well, the fact they've only got one AR that you can use, but they've got all the subs. Apart from the HMR. It is weird. It's very weird. But that's God for you. I don't know. I would like to see a little switch up. I can't wait. Yeah, I don't think it'll come in. Because obviously last season it was like they started with the M4 and then moved on to the TAC-56. And that was it. You know what I mean? But I would also like to see something like that this season. You know what I mean? I mean, I understand it from their point of view. But there's a lot of money on the line for them to be kind of doing quote-unquote dogshit practice by not running the gaps that they're going to be using in a competitive series. You know what I mean? Differently, the strats don't work, whatever, right? You don't want to be doing that sort of thing. But at the same time, I think, you know, I'd like to see it tested a little bit more. You know what I mean? Is there any viability here at all? No, we'll wait and see to see if it actually becomes available. Because they might push for it. The competitive players, they might push for it to happen. Yeah, all we need is for Slasher to drop like a fucking nuke and scrims with it. And then it'll be in. Right, that's what we need. I think that's going to happen. Come on, scrim Slasher and let him absolutely run amok with the BP-50. And then it'll be un-Geo's immediately. Guarantee it. Only roster mania news for this week is that Breezy is going to join Surge. League pending. Breezy, he's a French player. Um, he played in Vanguard with Lynx and somebody else. And I can't remember who else, the other person. But he's played in the league before. But he's getting back in and he's going to be joining Surge. Oh, well, we'll have to see that. Yeah. And that's roster mania. What are they doing about Illy? I don't know. There's no news about that. No one knows who they've gotten rid of. Who they're going to switch him out for. Hmm. That's interesting. Which then, they've got to make a choice quite soon. Or they might run this coming weekend, which is the 16th, 17th, 18th of February. They'll run, because that's when the games are back. So they might run this weekend with Illy and then make a decision. Or they might run it with Breezy and make a decision. So for the schedule, Friday the 16th, you've got Heretics versus Ultra. And then Ravens versus New York. Right. Pretty standard, I think. I think Ultra will win it and then New York will win it. Yep. Unless Heretics, the onliners only, they decide to turn up. Yep. Saturday the 17th of February, you've got Boston versus Ravens. FaZe versus Heretics. And then New York versus Surge. So that's Surge's first game back after the Major. So they've got to make a decision if they're going to change it or keep it and see how it goes against New York. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah. So I think Boston will win that one against the Ravens. FaZe will win against the Online Heretics. And the Online Heretics, oh mate, that can't be a thing. It is, no. The Online Heretics. And then New York will win against Surge, in my opinion. Pretty standard, I think. Don't see FaZe dropping anything against Online Heretics. I'm running with that one now, that I did. Oh, no. Oh, no. Trademark that. Get it on a t-shirt. And then Sunday the 18th, you've got LAG versus Legion. Ultra versus Rocker. And then LAT versus OpTic. And I think it'll be LAG win, Ultra win, OpTic win. Pretty standard. Thoughts? Feelings? OpTic are trash. Sad. You're just pretty much it. Okay, good. OpTic are going to lose to FaZe in everything this year, bro. Good, look forward to that. You know what, I kind of find that wild about FaZe, right? It's like that they've got a top two team in COD and a top two team in Halo. You know what I mean? What are they like in other esports? I think their Counter-Strike team's pretty good. I don't think they're like the best in the world, but I think they're good. Okay. I don't know, Counter-Strike's fun to watch, but I don't understand the power rankings. Yeah. I'm not into it enough to be like, this is what's happening. And then Apex, who knows what the fuck's going on with their Apex team. I think Snipedown's still part of it, I'm not really sure. Oh, and they've got FaZe Black and FaZe Black Academy now as well. Okay. Yeah, that's doing well. It's just FaZe is an organization, they've been around long enough to know what they're doing and getting what they want. It's just wild that their esports division is really good and the rest of it, not so much. They're winning. We won't talk about that. Yeah. Out of our depth and out of our pay grade. Unless you want to start, you want to use your uni degree. Which one? Which one? Oh, look at me. Shut up, just shut up. No, man, I don't understand what's going on. My understanding of that situation is that they, as with everything realistically to do with this space, like, you know, they did something great off their own back. The suits turned up and pumped a load of money into it, took control, ruined it, because they didn't understand what the value creation was. And now here we are. That's my understanding of what the problem is. Unfortunately, I can't comment because I don't actually know. No, I don't really know either, to be honest with you. I'm not exactly like, like, I like FaZe esports. I'm not really a massive FaZe guy, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I like them, literally, because they're good. That's the only reason why. Yeah. But saying that, like, if the FaZe Halo team, like, Yeah. But saying that, like, if the FaZe Halo team left and went to a different team tomorrow, I'm more of a fan of those players than I am of FaZe. You know what I mean? Like, when they were on Sentinels, I wasn't a FaZe fan. Let's just put it that way. No? No. I wasn't really a Sentinels fan either, to be honest with you. Pretty fluent between teams. Yeah, I just like watching the games, man. Just like with, well, I mean, like, with literally everything, isn't it, really? Yeah, true. Apart from the Carolina Panthers. I've done quite a bit. And that'll do for today. Before we get this started. Okay, a little Superbowl review before we get out? You just want to moan. I thought it was... It was all right. It wasn't bad. Not the result you wanted, though, was it? Absolutely not. I've seen... Oh, mate, right, like, the result is what it is, right? You know, obviously... It is what it is. It's just, like, all the absolute trash I've seen on Twitter since about how Mahomes is the GOAT. Oh, yeah. And this, that, and the other, and it's like, Mahomes is really good, don't get me wrong, but Brady wasn't the GOAT until he's won everything that there was to win, basically. Yeah. And now it's like, oh, Mahomes has got three rings, he's the GOAT. My man got seven, like, literally, what, like, three years ago? Two years ago? What are we on about? Yeah, but I think it's because Mahomes is only 28, so he's, like, near the... he's quite, like, still quite early in his career, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, for sure. And that's why. So the trajectory of where he's going will be greater than Brady if he keeps up the trend, you know what I mean? In theory. But, I mean, you know, he's so good at football that his team kicks field goals. That's how fucking sick he is, bro. Against the 49ers defence, that doesn't have Drake Greenlaw in it. Yeah, because he pulled his fucking... he did his Achilles in the celebration. Yeah, that was insane. Mental. Imagine that being the way you work all year to get to the Super Bowl, and that's what happens. It's because he... it just reminded me of that photo of, uh, was it the Ravens security guy that walks onto the field, and he put the finger guns up to his head? Wow. Have you seen that? No. That's that karma coming back for Drake Greenlaw. Right. Good. Either that or the Italian mob that that security guard definitely isn't a part of, um, did something to his leg. Oh, yeah. Do you want to expand on that, or should we just leave that there? Absolutely not, bruv. If you want to see evidence as to why this guy is a made man, I would urge you to go and watch, uh, the Cam Newton video about it, because he said it, not me. So, there we go. Any mob hitmen listening to Team Ned podcast, please don't kill me. Okay, this is extended beyond its lifestyle today. That's that lifeline of today. That'll do. Right, let's kind of wrap this up quickly, because I'm going to have to go into hiding. Yeah, that's it, man. I've got to hide from the mob now, guys. Maybe, maybe a new episode next week. Maybe not. Who knows? Here, a new episode from my CIA safe house. Safe house. I'm trying to take you from my house. I've got to take my PC, though, for the podcast, yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice one, yeah. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. For the podcast, yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice one, yeah. Cheers. Oh my god, I just hit my Xbox. What's that? No webcams? Oh, but what about my stream? Need a webcam for my stream? Nah, shut up, eh? I'm just trying to take anybody from, like, British towns into safe houses. Yeah, it just wouldn't work. Shut up, you. I can imagine it now, man. So they've moved the Donny to the safe house. Like, in the night. And then in the morning, he's got up and gone to the shop because there was no milk. And the CIA are just, like, absolutely, like, losing their fucking heads. Because they tell them, like, this guy's gone. And he just walks in with, like, a two-pinter. It's just like, you know what I tell you? Like, they're just like, where the fuck? Where the fuck have you been? Why did you get the fucking milk? I suppose you think that's acceptable. It's like, I just got a fucking green milk, bro. But you're like, yeah, let's pick up the Cravendale, man. Yeah, get Cravendale. You know, those fucking, those kittens with the thumbs there. Pretty cool, aren't they? What's that on the YouTube last night? I thought I'd see it. I was looking for the North Sea. Donny's Cravendale, that. So I went into the corner shop. Fuck off, man. Shut up, man. They made me out of the podcast again. Shut up. You started the kittens with thumbs. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. I'm not disagreeing. It's a real thing. I just find it funny. We tried to, you were trying to explain it to me and like, and make it state your point. Well, there was an American in the, in the discord, like what the fuck is happening? He loved it because we were arguing. That's why he loved it. No, you loved it because you just think of absolute opposable thumbs, bro. That's why. Yeah, that. And then he listened to me and you argue like a, like a married couple. Maybe this is why they think we're married, bro. Yeah, because we argue with each other because we find it funny just to argue, try to get one up each other. Yeah, maybe. At the end of the day, we don't go fight. It's funny. Yeah. I've never heard anybody so passionate about the cat, the cat video for the Cravendale. I was literally trying to cut your trousers to any reason as to why you called us and just absolutely battered my head in, bro. To the point where you're like, we're just like, oh, what are you on about? He's like, yeah, look, look, oh, here it is. Cravendale kittens with thumbs advert. You've just got to Google that shit. It'll come up. I go to the search bar and type in Cravendale cats with thumbs. Enter what Cravendale? I'm not giving them a shout out. Cravendale, you want to sponsor us? Get me your milk is very expensive. There's a fact that we managed to convince to make you go and look this video up just in case you were in like a different world and in your own simulation, like, no, I've fought this up. No, no, no, no, no point in that entire conversation. Did I doubt my own memory? Like, I just like your memory shit. You admitted that earlier on. Oh, yeah, yeah. But like, bro, I know that was a thing. Like, I know that was a thing. Do you remember the crusher cats as well? Yes, I remember the crusher cat. I remember both the adverts. I just think I'm going to try and gaslight you. Bro, the master manipulator reveals himself once again. Yeah. And he's already back into the shadows. He just comes back into the shadows. Shut up, man. I like to gaslight straight back into the shadows again. What are you going to do? Oh, my days. He can never catch the gaslighter because he's already gaslighting you. You're a gaslighter. No, I'm not. You are. That is a one. Can you imagine the situation? You know, why are we lying about it? You know, we're all... Stop lying about it. Doesn't come across good if you're lying about it. Fucking hell, man. I think that will do for episode 12. Oh, thank you very much, everybody, for watching. Watching? Hang on, let me reach that. Hey, yo, wait a minute. You're revealing the, uh... We ain't got fucking shit. You're revealing the next step. We ain't got fucking shit. Announcement today. Oh, we're apart and we're going to put it on. Oh, hang on, I've got a text. No, we're not. We're not doing it. No, it's the last shot, so you can't come on the show. Yeah, for fuck's sake. Fucking bastard. I'm raging for the next day and a half. No, thank you, everyone. Thank you very much, everybody, for listening. As usual, any positive, negative, constructive feedback is very, very welcomed and appreciated. Let us know what you think, what you would like to be different. Yadda, yadda, yadda. You know the drill. Um, as I said at the start of the podcast, we'll reiterate it again. Twitter, TeamNadePodcast. That's TeamNadePod. That's TeamNadePod. Oh, my guy. We're on the spot. Oh, for God's sake. No, it is. Marketing. It is. We're on the spot by TeamNadePod. Capital T, capital N, capital P. TeamNadePod. Okay. We're on Twitter. We're on Spotify, TeamNadePodcast. I know we're on Twitter, but we've just been over that about five times now. I don't like you. Yeah, I know, but you... We're on Spotify, TeamNadePod. We're on Samsung Podcast. We're in Amazon Music. We can put it on... Amazon as well, aren't we? Yeah, we're on Amazon Music. We can be on Apple Podcasts if we want to. It's just a manual submission. If there's a request for it and a desire for us to be there, we can do that. If it's easier for certain people to do it, we can do that. I'm looking to doing that. Take a couple of steps. Easy done, you know? Easy money. Thank you very much for listening, and we will catch you in the next one.