TeamNade Ep14

The podcast hosts discuss their week, including a stressful work situation and a strange encounter on public transport. They also talk about the Halo gaming tournament and the surprising results. Optic Gaming and Native Gaming faced unexpected challenges, and Faze emerged as the top team. In the EU tournament, Foe and Quadrant reached the grand final. What is up people, we are back, TeamNate podcast episode number 14, with the main man Forbes United 8, what you saying bruv? I am doing well, how are you doing? Yeah, not too bad bruv, not too bad. What's the week been said? Stressful mate, so stressful, everything that could possibly go wrong at my job went wrong, I have been to the office twice on back to back days to get my laptop fixed and both days they were like yeah don't worry, go home, it will work, you are sorted mate, no dangers, got home, both days didn't work. That's always good, back and forth, haven't used public transport, oh no? Yeah but I mean it's chilling, I was going during the day, trams were pretty quiet, although actually, I did get on the tram and there was like a piss head on the tram, it was so bad right, I got on the tram and they were like, this guy, so I was still on the tram, by the door, earphones in, I think it was like Thursday, so I had come back from getting my laptop sorted, and I had to go out back into town again for meeting someone, and I had my headphones in, I wasn't really paying attention, but I noticed that everyone in the carriage around me is acting a little bit like stiff, you know what I mean? It's public transport, everyone is a bit stiff on public transport, but it was like more stiff, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I can hear like, sometimes the tram driver will come over the intercom and be like, yo, we can't do this because this is afternoon service, you know what I mean? Sometimes that happens, and I can hear someone talking, so I pause the music, take one earphone out, and there's no loud talking, it's just like normal tram noises going on around me, and I'm like, alright, okay. So bang the earphone back in, music back on, I hear it again, and I'm like, fuck. And I literally look up, right, and there's this donny, sat in this seat, bro, oh my god, I've never seen someone with a redder face in my entire life. My guy, you know those donnies in the pub, the big donnies, and their faces, yeah, yeah, and their face is like so red, just from the brewskies, like, they look like they're about to die of some kind of like wild fucking heart condition on the spot. That's what this guy looks like, and he was like falling over, almost falling out of the chair, and he had a bottle of what I assume was apple juice, but it could have been something else, and he was like almost tipping it over the floor. Anyway, this guy passed out, and I got off the tram, I didn't see what happened after that, so I was just like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm no part of this. My mom has passed out, I am no help. My guy was about six foot seven, three hundred pounds of pure drunk northerner, like, you don't mess with that. He'd fucking move out of the way of that, you know what I mean? He'd stay about as far away from that as humanly possible in that situation. My skills are not needed here. Yeah, exactly. What's that? You're trying to go through his wallet and his ID? No, sir, I can't do that. That's as far as I go. You know what I mean? Stay in your own lane and using public transport people. I mean, unless you see some like super fucked up shit, and then you gotta get involved, really. You know what I mean? But luckily, I don't tend to see that much super fucked up shit. Maybe it's just because I'm just like... Unaware about your music. It's genuinely just oblivious. I just look at my phone and I get annoyed at shit that I see on Twitter. World of your own. Yeah, basically. What are you saying, anyway, BravadoZoic? Average, I suppose. Average? Yeah. Like you play Halo. Hey! Fucking hold that. One mil. I don't want to do this anymore. That's it. That's final straw. Fuck you. You're still sleeping on that live fire match in the 8th Lobby. You're still mapping. So if anyone would like to audition to be the new co-host of Team Nade Podcast, you can find me on... I'd actually know where you can find me, to be honest with you. Smoke signal or something. I'll find you. Don't worry. It's not that hard. A little bit of research. Listen to this prick. Jad on for about 20 minutes at a time. They waged. I do this for free, you know. It's called tips, Jad. Don't ask me a question unless you're prepared to sit there for an hour as we answer that shit. We'll talk about F1, Sunday roasts or dogs. You're going to be here for hours. Mate, I saw a tweet yesterday, right, and it was... It was a geezer on... It was like screenshots from online. And it was just like, I go crazy for like pizza. I love dogs. And then like, there was like another like really generic one. And he posted all three photos and he was like first team or basic. And I was like that. That's funny. That's good. No, there's nothing. Nothing really happened in my week. I had a busy Sunday, but that was out of my control and not my plan Sunday. But what can you do? No, sometimes it's just the way the cookie crumbles, isn't it, man? Yeah, life gets in the way, doesn't it? Yeah. Mr. Cod, Mr. Halo. You've just got to get on with it. I genuinely, like, I was watching Halo all day yesterday, so I can't fill you in on the cod. But I can fill you in on what happened with the Halo. Well, take us away then. Right. So... Yesterday was the... I don't know what day it was. I don't know what day it was. I don't know what day it was. Yesterday was the... I think it's the... Well, I know what yesterday was. I'm just trying to remember where the event is. I think it's in Arlington. It's the Optic Texas Major. It's taking place in March, right? So yesterday was the... Final qualifier, wasn't it? I think it was the final qualifier, yeah. It wasn't an LTC, but it was like, this was the one that was going to seed the... Pools. Yeah. So, a couple of shocking things happened yesterday. So, I think Native Gaming are going to have to qualify for the pools through the open bracket. Which is kind of mad. Like, I saw APG was having a pop-up with someone on Twitter because the guy was like, oh yeah, I remember when APG said that he'd fucking retire rather than have to... He'd retire rather than have to play through... The open. The open bracket, because that was disrespectful to his legacy. And then APG was just like, number one, I didn't say that. Number two, APG's response was like, wow, bro, right? So he goes, you know, what you say in here is you were taken out of context because I said that was a joke. And it's like, okay, fair enough. He's addressed the main issue straight away. Boom. Straight to business. Straight to business. And then he goes, keep my name out of your mouth because I live in your head rent-free. Okay, fair. And then he goes, but next time you want to talk shit at me. So it's like, well, which one is it, APG? Is it keep my name out of your mouth because I live in your head rent-free or is it at me when you talk shit about me? Yeah, which one do you want here? Which one do you want? Maybe he wants at it when someone is thinking about him in his head. Potentially. I mean, APG did have a good day yesterday. Despite what the Twitch chat was telling you, if you spent any time looking at that, which was full of when Optic played, it was full of like, this is why APG got dropped. And then five seconds later, when Deadzone got five, that was APG would never have let that happen to him. And then when Native Gaming were playing, it was, this is why you got, this is why APG got dropped. And then it was like, oh, APG needs some help. Like, sorry, it's always the same though. Nobody can help you. Yeah, basically. I mean, it's Twitch chat, innit? Like, it's, you know. Full of degenerates, man. Literally, literally, bro. So yeah, that was surprising. Optic Gaming, I think they finished top six after losing game fives against FaZe and Sentinels. Okay. The Sentinels won, like, it was a good series. Don't get me wrong. Like, they were both banger series. But like, I feel like the Sentinels won, they got pretty lucky. Like, I mean, the one kill that I was kind of like, I don't know if that looks weird because it's like an observer thing or he got that kill because it's an online thing. But like, basically, BooBoo got the final two kills. It was like 48-48. And then BooBoo gets the final two kills, right? So like, he's in the yellow fridge. It was Aqua TS. He's in the yellow fridge. He like jumps up onto the, like, you know, like the thing that like blocks the front of the fridge? Yeah. Like, he jumps on the top of it. And one of the optic players like drops down in front of him weak. So like, he'd previously been on that ledge and obviously he was there because he'd been called out and he couldn't find him. And like, he like meleed. But it like, it looks like he meleed nothing. And then he got the kill. Right, okay. And it's kind of like, I'm not convinced that like... Do you know what I mean? Is that an OBS thing? Or is that a... A server? Online Halo thing? Yeah, like a server issue. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then anyway, he slides down to P1 and then goes around the corner and like, cleans up the one shot who was hiding on the yellow P jump. Okay, yeah. You know what I mean? So that was quite good. And then we got to see SSG phase twice, which I was expecting to see optic phase twice, to be honest with you. I thought SSG were going to knock phase down to the lower bracket. But that isn't the way it played out. So phase one, I think they won a game five in the first series and then they won the grand final 3-1. Okay. So phase going into Arlingfield and number one, NA seed. Space station of the number two, NA seed. Legend looks absolutely insane. They've definitely... Well, I mean, there's a bit of information about Legend later on, which I found out today and it absolutely blew my mind. Because it makes... It makes the pickup fucking mental. Yeah, it makes the pickup even more nuts. Yeah. Realistically. And then flipping it over to EU. So, as expected, the grand final was between Foe and Quadrant. So I think Foe played Quadrant in the winner's finals. They got knocked down and then they played in the grand finals again. Yeah. So I was... I didn't watch it, right? But I was watching the LDT stream. And then I flipped on to European Halo League or European Halo, I think was the primary broadcast. I think Atlas were also broadcasting it, but I like... I just didn't watch that. Right. This is the thing, right? So, the whole time that this Atlas and European Halo League thing has been going on, right? So I need to make a statement. Previously on the show, I've said that they were the same entity. That is incorrect. They are not. They're two separate things, right? Yeah. With different people involved. But obviously the... So, specifically my comment about one of them, one of the broadcasts having casters on it that knew literally nothing about Halo, that was primarily aimed at the European Halo League guys, right? Yeah. On... What day was it? The games were played yesterday, Sunday. On the Saturday, they tweeted and they were like, oh yeah, so we've got like outstanding... We are basically like, this was a common complaint about European Halo League's coverage, was that the casters, whilst they were evidently trying their absolute hardest, they didn't actually know what was going on. Right. So they upped the ante yesterday, European Halo League. So they had, on comms, they had Hixxy, not CDL Hixxy, different one. Yeah. He's quite good, Hixxy, to be fair. They had the Donnie with the big ginger beard, whose name escapes me, he's an American guy. And he was like the desk host. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. He was quite good. They also had Manalight Van Adam, if you don't know Van Adam. Yeah. Manalight Van Adam. Manalight Van Adam. And they also had Lethal, not NA Sentinels Lethal, but the OG European Halo GOAT Lethal, with an A, not a U. I mean, I texted you in it yesterday, during the day, and I was like, Lethal's turned up on this broadcast for literally three minutes, and has already dropped more knowledge than the rest of the broadcast combined. It was insane. Like, the guy is like, seriously, if you don't know anything about this guy, like, go and research about him. He's one of the most interesting people I think I've ever read about in terms of esports. Like, and the guy definitely knows his stuff. Yeah. But, getting back to the results, so, yeah, as I said, I wasn't watching the Faux Quadrant Grand Finals. I think it got to like a game break on the LBT stream, clicked it back over, and found out that Faux had reset the bracket against Quadrant. That's massive, fucking huge, right? I don't know the games, I don't know how they did it, but they reset the bracket, which I was like, oh, go on. Because obviously, Faux coming off the back of that roster change, and obviously last week, they placed second to Quadrant, who finished first. Yeah. And ended up winning. Ended up winning it. So, Faux, which is Jimbo, Mighty, Chick, or T-Chick, if you are Wes Clutch, and Wootom, is the number one EU seed. The number two EU seed is Quadrant, which is Glory, Sickr, SLG, and Snipe Drone. And the number, so those two teams have their coverage provided, their travel coverage provided. There's also another team, which will be going from EU with travel coverage provided, and they will play through the open bracket, which is Jump Out Gang, which is Kimbo, Millsy, Sunrise, and Zobey. So, that's really good. I'd love to see three teams going from the EU. Go on. Oh yeah, definitely. Has Faux got an organisation yet? No. Interesting. A little bit more about that later, because I found out some information relating to that today. Ooh! Which... Geez. I know last week, they had a, apparently they had a call with Benord. Okay. But then, like, I was holding out for Cloud9 to sign them, to be honest with you. Yeah. But then Cloud9 announced their roster back in the last week, I think. And it was the roster that had been playing under the Cloud9 name the whole time. Or the ones that have the Cloud9 skins. I think it's like Tusk, Sceptify, Rammy, and someone else. I don't know. Like, it's not... To me, with the greatest of respect, it's not a fantastic team. It's very much a... We have an obligation to field a team in the HCS, and these are the cheapest people we can put together in a roster. Yeah. Type of team. That's what the whole thing smacks of to me. Okay. So, I have the pools, if you'd like to hear the pools. Oh, we would like to hear the pools, please. So this is from ThugNasty on Twitter. So, Pool A is FaZe. Okay. ForGaleLewis, or ForGale, or ForG. I can't remind who's on that team, and my online resources are not working at the moment, so I can't tell you. And Quadrant. And then, the pool player team. Oh, sorry, an open bracket team. Yeah. Pool B is SSG, Foe, and G1, which the streets are saying that that G1 roster is the team with it's the last shot on it. That's what the streets are saying. Okay. But, whether that is G1 or not, I don't know. Because obviously, the whole thing with G1 happened. They've been very, very quiet ever since that happened. Yeah. So I don't really know what the crack is with that. Pool C is Sentinels, Shopify, and Stainers, which I think is the King Nick team. Right, okay. Which, strangely, right, according to Halo Data Hive, King Nick, yesterday, was number two in damage per game. On average, with 5,736. Okay. Which is wild, to be honest with you. But then also, King Nick apparently does put down a lot of unnecessary damage on the map, which is why Ryan didn't like him. Okay. And then, obviously, so Pool B and Pool C, the final team is made up of the open bracket team. And then Pool D, OpTic, forever failing upwards, is Complexity, OpTic, TSS, and another open bracket team. So, OpTic, somehow, by crashing out of the qualifier to their own measure, has found themselves in a group with no other massive organizational team. I think Complexity are going to give them a run for their money. Complexity look really, really good. Yeah, Complexity have been given a good run. Yeah. I think that'll be the standout game from that pool on the Friday, on the Friday. Yeah. I mean, it's like super early predictions. There we go. I would expect phase to top Pool A 3-0 with quadrant second. And then with the other ones, it's a bit difficult to say because obviously depends what team comes out of the open bracket. Yeah. Because it's like, you know, native gaming are going to end up in one of these pools. I believe that. Yeah. It just is a case of which one they end up on. Yeah. Pool B, I would expect SSG to win that 3-0 with foe 2-1. Pool C, I would expect Sentinels to top that pool with Shopify second. Although, to be fair, right, Shopify, another team that looks really, really good at the moment. So, I could see that one, Sentinels or Shopify are going to top 100%. But I could see it being either or. Depends on who's firing on all cylinders on the day. That, that will be a really interesting series to watch. Yeah. Because obviously, Shopify the same as Complexity are kind of like going to be teams that are pushing for that top 6, top 4 finish sort of area. I think that's well within their reach to get. So, obviously, you know, whoever tops Pool C will get a better break in the next part of the round. The next part of the bracket, I would say. Yeah. And then obviously, Pool D, if Optic don't win that pool, then... Big questions to be asked. I would be incredibly worried. I mean, as long as they don't come third, they're chillin'. Because I don't think Optic has the ice to make a deep run through losers. I can't lie. Yeah. Like, you know, I don't think they would be able to do it. Because I mean, you know, if Optic do go into the lower bracket from Saturday, you know what I mean, they start there. At some point, Space Station and Faze are going to play each other. In the upper bracket. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And plus, Optic have got bogey teams and like, Quadrant, and like, you know, if Quadrant drop down and back them again at their own home major, like... I don't know. If I was you, I wouldn't show my face. That's all I'm gonna say, bro. The embarrassment will be too much. But yeah, man. So it was a good day. It was a good day at Halo. All round. Nice. I can't lie. So you've teased all of us logging off. I want to hear the news. Right. Let me take a drink. Give me the fucking tea, sis. Let me take a little drink of the McDonald's Coke, bro. Oh, mate. Come on now. Other Cokes are available. Right, so... McDonald's, if you want to pay me for advertising, get at me. It would be greatly beneficial to me if you did because then you could stop charging me so much fucking money to get a drink. This podcast is sponsored by McDonald's Coke. I like it. It makes me really happy. So, right. There's been a boy in the EU who is a competitive player. He does a bit of observing. He does a bit of casting. Just embedded in the scene. Been around for a while, right? Yeah. He has recently started interviewing other people from the scene on a podcast. So the first... They're all on YouTube. You can find it outcasted on YouTube. Go on. But the one that I was particularly interested in was the Seeker episode. So Seeker, obviously, player for Quadrant. And the biggest... With Quadrant, right, the two big storylines, obviously, picking up Snipe Drone and dropping chick and then legend going to SSG. And fair play to the boy who was doing the interview. Didn't fuck about at all. Literally, boom. Question one, tell me about Snipe Drone. Why Snipe Drone? What's going on? Straight in. Straight in. Straight for the... Straight in. No fucking... Oh, you think you've come here for an easy day, do you? Incorrect. Boom. Tell me this. So that was quite good. So according to Seeker, when they picked up Glory to replace Legend, which obviously he confirmed in the interview, Glory is probably the... Now that Legend isn't in the EU anymore, Glory is probably the most mechanically talented player. Okay. Right? However, that talent is very, very, very raw and it needs kind of like molding and shaping into becoming like a full, you know, more well-rounded player. Right? Kind of like how when Bound joined Cloud9 when he was on FaZe, he was insane but very, very raw. And then he joins Cloud9 obviously that roster moves to Space Station and like the improvement has just been like insane. Like he just keeps getting better. Right? Yeah. This is the same thing with Glory. So obviously Seeker was also an integral part of the Cartel and Ascend roster. So Cartel was what the Ascend roster was called before they were a salaried pro team. And before they had Snipe Drone on the Cartel roster they played with Jimbo as well. Right? So Seeker very, very like aware that having so there's two factors. Right? The first one is obviously so they've gone from being an all French speaking roster even the coach is French into having to switch in their comms into English to accommodate Glory who's Irish. But also they're all very aware that having you know four man out of the five man squad who all speak very fluent French communicating in French a lot of the time can have like a negative impact on the English speaking member of the team because for the past like three, four years that has been the situation that has been the reality that him and Legend and Shady or you know him and SLG like that's the reality of what they've been facing when they've been trying to get down to business and do vod review and you know like go through what happened after a series and stuff like that. Right? Yeah. He says in the interview that like they'll do a scrim or they'll play a game and when they're you know they're coming out of it and they were also worried that the switch from French to English was going to make them all kind of uncomfortable which to be perfectly honest with you like I can understand that like you know it's a second language isn't it? It's very difficult right? He also highlighted that he you know quadrant as a team when it was Chick instead of Sniper and they felt that they couldn't quite work out how to fix and go through and that they you know obviously Seeker's team was Snipedrone before on Ascend Glory's team was Snipedrone before on Na'Vi last season so it you know realistically this is a player where it makes sense for them to get in. I feel like he actually said as well that when Snipedrone was always the player that they were thinking of picking up because of the way that he plays the game like the stability that he brings to their playstyle because like Snipedrone is like he's slower on the map but the flip side to that is Snipedrone will always be the last to the team fight right? Yeah. But he's like a master of his own respawn point like he makes good decisions so it's like yeah he's slower on the map but the work that he's doing is incredibly important when you compare it to the 195 mile an hour pace that the other three will play at. You know what I mean? I know I've made this comparison last week as well like how Royal 2 sort of dictates the pace that the other three will be playing at and that's why Ascend obviously were undefeated for the amount of time that they were. Apparently another thing I found interesting is that Snipedrone like I mean I kind of noticed this with the listen-ins and stuff like he's very quiet in comms he doesn't really speak but he's incredibly good at listening which when you've got three guys flying around the map like nuts doing damage left right and centre that's probably a good thing that you have someone who's incredibly good at listening Yeah someone who's just grounded and not flying around the comms the fact that he's listening to everything that's going on and building up this mental picture of the way that the game is playing and shaping up in his mind the fact that he's so good at listening is probably also the reason why he's so effective on the map You know what I mean? Yeah So that was a little interesting insight from the quadrant side of things This outcasted boy today he released a podcast with Wonderboy who is the coach of Foe obviously formerly the Na'vi roster which was interesting because he'd clearly listened to the previous podcast because he so Seeker so this is another thing that gets into the legend situation now right so when the Europa Halo Blackpool event rolled around right obviously like on the pod back in the day I was like oh yeah watching quadrant kind of like play and interact there seemed to be these three guys and legend and there was a bit of distance in there and that was one of the main reasons I think he's done I think he's out the news of legend going to space station came out or legend informed quadrant and his teammates about two weeks before that event took place right so for them winning that event was kind of their like final sort of like hurrah that was their thing they wanted to win it because that was going to be their last they're a record breaking roster like they've gone and basically you know they've gone overseas they've got historic record breaking placings like you know they're the best team that Europe's ever put out so they wanted to finish off with a bang basically Seeker also said that what was strange about that event was that they're in the grand finals they know so quadrant know that legend is going to America at the end of the season they know he's gone but they also know that glory who's currently sat on the other side of the stage with Na'vi is coming in to fill his place so it creates a weird dynamic right and now Na'vi turns around and he goes yeah so I was like surprised when Seeker said that because we didn't know about that at all right right okay so Na'vi basically sold glory's contract to quadrant in replacement for legend okay but then nobody told the team that that's what was happening now I don't know whether that was because no one could tell the team that that's what was happening because obviously like if if it's common like I mean you know the European Halo community the competitive community I should say is very very small so if my man's been bought out and he's going over there and one person knows it well someone's going to overhear and everyone's going to know but you know I mean so you know probably one of those situations quadrant also probably didn't want to waste business in it at the end of the day like you know they don't want to tip their hand they don't want to show what direction they're going in because then that puts them in a weaker position comparatively and in a business sense and all this right so that was quite wild the other like and this is legend legend when he got approached by SSG basically I didn't think twice about signing that contract which is fair because why would you yeah you know I mean right quadrant let legend go on a free basically hey he just they were just like yeah if that's what that's where you want to go then thank you for everything but like we're releasing you from your contracts and you can just go oh no no no like who the fuck signed that off then that's that yeah bro right space station yeah like are doing bits in the transfer window bruv like doing absolute bits in the transfer window right they managed to get the fucking old cloud nine roster yeah yeah realistically getting like royal two in free agency would be like well getting royal two on a free would be like getting Brady in free agency well and you can say you're not like Mahomes has proven himself to a certain degree but he's not there yet you know what I mean okay yeah let's go with that it's like getting Mahomes on a free or it's like you know getting Harland on a free like you know what I mean like do the fucking work for you and you're gonna get the result out of it yeah because that's the thing man like legend's different like legend is like he is just next level good like it's like you can't like I genuinely can't put into words how good this guy is but like you just you know I mean you you must know it right you've been to football games you've been to football games haven't you you know when you just like you see a player and you're just like oh shit just due to the fear like yeah and you're just like yo like Mbappé versus Liverpool yeah yeah fuck me the fear that that man gives you is ridiculous it's like seeing like I watched the Ravens in London this year right and like Lamar Jackson outside of the pocket and it's no one can touch him you know what I mean and you're just like you're just at the next level above everyone else around you so yeah that was pretty insane I'm excited to see what SSG do this year I think they've got at least one win in them I'm hoping it comes in Salt Lake City you don't want it in London no fuck no I don't want I don't want face to win in Arlington foe to win in London okay foe to win in London foe to win in London oh yeah sorry going back I did mention this as well didn't I so in this in this podcast one of the boys said that he had reached out to 60 to 70 esports organisations all of them had turned him down they didn't have the budget or they basically just turned around and said we'd love to help but we there is no return on investment in this esport which is fair yeah it's just fair it's a lot of money we worked out the other day didn't we if everyone's on what do we say if everyone's on it works out to be like quarter of a million pounds a year in terms of wages and transport and equipment and if you have like anyone you know I mean if you have like a support team or like you have to employ someone specifically to liaise between you know I mean it's like it's a lot it's a lot of money and you know there is no return on investment in Halo really like to me like Halo is kind of like one of those esports that you're involved with because you fucking love it yeah you love the game yeah you just you absolutely love it you love the 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