230326 Channeling differences

The speaker discusses their exploration of different channelers and spiritual teachings. They mention Mooji, a spiritual teacher who resonated with them in the past but doesn't anymore. They also mention Abraham Hicks and Eckhart Tolle as other spiritual teachers they have listened to. The speaker reflects on the different ways these teachers deliver their messages and how they all ultimately convey similar teachings. They express their preference for practical and clear spiritual teachings. The speaker also discusses the idea of joining a spiritual community but ultimately decides against it, feeling more comfortable being alone. They mention the potential distractions and attractions that could arise in such a community. The speaker concludes by mentioning their interest in interviews with channelers and reflects on their own spiritual journey and the teachings they have absorbed. Morning. Well, I say good morning, but you may not be listening to this in the morning. It's just that I am making it in the morning, so good morning. Um, I wasn't exactly sure, I'm still not exactly sure why I'm speaking, but some thoughts have gone through my mind. I've been recently exploring other channelers. There's a new podcast, or a new YouTube channel podcast that I found where several times a week, for an hour, he interviews various people who channel various entities, or who just channel, who I've never come across before, and I was interested to see, to hear, what difference there might be. Some men, some women, some voices change, some eyes close, some processes are required, some just do it effortlessly. Um, some I could resonate with, others not so much, and I realized that the ones that I had been drawn to were enough. Um, while Mooji isn't a channeler, he is simply a kind of living Buddha, many people think of him. Um, I find the way that the followers, because it is a sort of a connected to Indian tradition, Hindu tradition, and I'm familiar with it, having spent time in India, the way they revere him, the fact that he basically says the same thing all the time, over and over, um, because those people need constantly to be reminded, to be reconnected to it, and it's really good, and there was a time when I would listen to him regularly, because the resonation I felt was so strong. Um, but not really now, because if I dip back into him, it's just the same things that I am so familiar with, his energy, his pointings. Um, his name is Tony Moo, uh, a Caribbean, I think Jamaican-born chap who lived in Brixton in South London, um, who, when he was discovered by those who revere him, gave him the suffix ji, meaning holy, so he became Mooji, Mooji. And so, as time went on, he was no longer Mooji, he was just Mooji, and that's how he's known now. And some people, having forgotten that they affixed the suffix ji, just think his name is Mooji, so they add a suffix ji, so now he's Moojiji. And it always makes me, I don't know what, it makes me feel like, why? Why have you made him Moojiji? Is that, is that going to continue? Will I one day come across him and he'll be Moojijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijijiji That really offers practical advice in the present to an individual. I feel like that channeling is the most informative, the most clear, the most practical, the most clarifying of all the spiritual teachings that come through people. Abraham Hicks isn't bad, but each of them have a certain way of speaking, a certain kind of language that you need to become familiar with in order to get the most from it. And also you need to spend enough time with them, because you can't say everything in one session. In order to hear the totality of the teaching, and eventually you will hear it being repeated over and over again in different moments to answer the different questions of those who either haven't come there before or they haven't really taken it in. Even with Bishara, the information, which is what it's all about, even Dharalanka will say, it's the information that matters, not whether you believe that it's a separate entity or that it's an extraterrestrial or any of the kind of structure that helps to carry the information. It's only whether the information helps and is of benefit. I like that a lot. The other spiritual teacher that I would listen to and could still listen to because of the calmness is Eckhart Tolle. And again, not a channeler, someone who has come to wisdom through reflection and experience. And those three, certainly when I was in the first van, gave me exactly what I needed. The resonation of connection in the present, to spend several hours a day in their company, and the feeling of connection to the information, to the ideas that helped bring me peace. So, even though I could sometimes dip in to them from time to time, I don't stay very long because it's like perhaps I don't need them now. And yet those who are around them constantly, it's almost like a crutch that they rely on them in a way that seems to be... it doesn't work for me, I couldn't. I did think about joining the Muji community, they have an ashram in Portugal, and when it was time for me to experience homelessness, where I could have literally gone anywhere, lockdown prevented any of that as an option, and I might have taken it had I been able to. Now, I don't think it would have been right for me at all, so life ensured I didn't have to do that. I don't know if it would have been a waste, Portugal wouldn't have been difficult to get to, and it's a lovely warm place, and maybe I could have found some connection to it, but I never got to experience the opportunity to try. And now, I'm okay with that, I don't think I could be a part of such a community, I feel more comfortable alone. Not that I would have had to stay, it wasn't a cult or anything like that, I wouldn't have had to have signed over all my worldly possessions in order to be present with them, but the way they operate is a very, in many ways, kind and loving and supporting and caring and so on. He's not egotistical, so he's not running it in the sense that cult leaders run their communes. But having dipped into other channelers and how they speak and what they say, essentially they're all saying the same thing, they have to be. If you're with them long enough, then you hear the basis of all of their explanations, their teachings, there couldn't be something so profoundly missing that you only find it in one and the other doesn't have it. They all have the same, they're all connected to that source. It seems to come through with slightly different personality structures, ways of delivery, and depending on why you're there, you may hear, be told things that you didn't expect or just need to hear. The issue can be that you just never leave, you're there all the time. I would sometimes watch Mooji's satsangs, gatherings of people where he would speak, but many would come up to microphones and ask questions and there'd be familiar faces. For years, the same faces are there. They feel they've found their God, in a sense. So they're projecting the idea of this spiritual master as a kind of God image, I suppose, that they're needing something. But they've come from a very religious tradition, and so it's very easy for them to do that. Or they've needed something, they've had to let go of a spiritual tradition because it didn't work for them, and then they find this and they feel the reality from it, and now they are serving it, just like that sort of way that traditional religions, God, you believe and you have faith, and you see something and it gives you what you need, it gives you the bubble of comfort, of security, and some become disciples. And I get it. I'm not knocking it, it's not for everyone, and I'm not even sure how it would make me feel if I was to do it, but I don't feel drawn or called to try. I think I would always feel outside. I would always just be observing it. It could be fascinating to spend time in situations of spiritual community, but I suspect that in a very short space of time, I would feel attracted to some of the women who were drawn there for their gentleness and their openness. I can't help it. They would be kind, loving, caring, gentle people, and I'd be drawn to that, so that would distract me from the role. Now, of course, they could be kind of nun-like, which would make the most sense, that they'd be living a sort of celibate life. They wouldn't be called to that. It's not essential that they're not going to a monastery or anything like that, but yet it would make sense because, as we talked about, the higher vibrations sort of take you away from the physical pleasures, the needs and desires of sort of lower human activity. They may not. It may not be like that, or it could be brought back, but generally, I suspect that that would be the case. But the feeling might be there, and it would be a distraction, and that's why, in many instances, the monastic situation is male-only or female-only. They separate. Whereas in the more New Age-y type communities, they're all together, as they are in the Muji community. And so, yes, having watched or listened to some of these interviews, and it's interesting because many of them are just interviews, and some of them are interviews with a bit of channeling, and it is interesting. I am interested. How did you begin, and how, and so on. The backstories can be interesting. Some people choose it, but most people, it seems, discover that they have it, that they start to hear a voice. They start to feel something. They start to say something, and some of them are kind of Edgar Cayce-like, where they don't remember the experience exactly. Others are absolutely present with it, and know exactly what they are saying and have said. And it could be that because I've spent many, many years with what I've considered to be the highest form of spiritual channeling, the lesser channelers, which work with others who feel connected to them, it doesn't really matter to me. I'm not really, oh, it's more spiritual teaching, any teaching, I'm there lapping it up. I may have absorbed plenty. I may have become the vibration of the teaching, so that's what I live. It's hard to say, because I can't remember what it was like before I did. I'm not saying I've got it all figured out, that I don't need any more. Sometimes I'm listening, and I am reminded of something I knew, or that I have come across and recognized as true, but wasn't aware of again, had forgotten again, which I think is basically what we're doing. We're just remembering who we are, and the more we remember, the more aware of the truth of life, as it were, becomes obvious, to the point where there are some who have such a powerful connection to the afterlife, to what comes next, that they just have, they just know, they just experience it as if it's part of what they know. There's no fear of death, or anything like that. It is a conscious connection as it was before they arrived. The decision, it was all made with awareness, and I get that, that makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know anything, but I don't have any fear of what comes next. I'm fascinated at the idea of the experience of it, the transition, what would it be like, it's fascinating. I'm not in any rush to find out. I'm not trying to escape, to let go of this life because it's too difficult, too boring, too repetitive. It still manages to surprise me, and I'm here because I'm supposed to be here, because I chose to be here, because there are things still to experience. The fact that there is no memory of anything is intentional. It would be far too difficult to live this life authentically if one was completely aware of all past lives, or spiritual connection, and, you know, even those like yourself who have experiences in astral planes, who have very specific type of dreams, etc. still don't know, still can actually have fear about all of this, which is surprising in some ways, but yet they do. I don't experience any of those things, at least to my knowledge. I haven't had a lucid dream for many, many years, and the dreams I have are, well, on the whole, not significant. They're just dreams, and they're not full of clarity and colour, and I certainly don't feel like I'm travelling in some alternate plane of existence. It's boring, really. Almost never anything of note, nothing that I need or would want to share, because they're just insignificant in many ways. If the mechanism of dream is not just one thing, some of it is a subconscious releasing, because we know if we're deprived of dreaming that it really, really affects us, but it could also include the idea of actually travelling to alternate states, which we might misconstrue as dream, when in fact it was something else, something like the things that you and others experience, where you feel this is more than a dream. But I don't have those experiences, just as many, many people don't have them, and I don't know why. I'm not sure what the mechanism is that triggers it, that allows it, that you can practice certain techniques, but I'm not drawn to do that, so it's almost like it's not necessary, that it would maybe on some level interfere with how I live and what I'm doing. So I can be completely okay with that. I don't feel like, oh, it indicates I'm too low vibrationally, I'm not really a good spiritual person. I don't have those kind of thoughts, that would just be a belief, a way of defining something, a way of putting me down, for example. Why create a belief that makes you feel anxious or fearful, when you could create a different belief that doesn't? I don't mean a delusion where I imagine something because the alternative is uncomfortable or scary. I try to do things with a sense of reality, authenticity, but at the same time I have to be aware of what is belief, what I've constructed, and what is simply just happening. I do my best not to have those beliefs, negative or positive. I just try to be in this moment as myself and observe whether I am or not, how I've dealt with this situation or that person, and was I authentic? And if I wasn't, if I felt like, oh, I wasn't, did I have a mask? Was I hiding? Was I protecting? Was there fear? What was the reason? Can I understand? Can I recognise and accept that the next time or in future I'll be able to be better, different, more? That's all. I try not to beat myself up if I've got it wrong, in inverted commas, or if I felt inauthentic, or if it seems that I am a little bit affected by who I'm with, which is often the case. It's still like that, it's always been like that, but in the absence or the lessening of ego, there seems to be more, I seem to be affected by the vibration or the vibrational situation of those I'm with. Not that I am a mirror, not that I am mirroring or attempting to be, to fit in and be accepted by being like them, but I feel more, I feel closer to them, more like them, simply because I'm vibrating in a similar way, so I have similar thoughts. I can be a part of their world which seems easier. I think even that has changed as I've grown older, but it's still there to some degree. And that's why I don't put myself into situations when I'm around lower vibrational beings, because I don't like that feeling, but if I'm around higher vibrational beings, or those with loving kindness and empathy and compassion, then I like that very much, because it brings those qualities out in me. Which means they were always there, but there wasn't the opportunity to experience them as such. Um, yeah, so, like I said, I didn't know exactly what I was going to talk about, um, but it is something I haven't really mentioned about the channelings and the information, because it's so easy to access so many different forms of it, which makes a lot of sense, because those who need a certain way, a certain feeling, are drawn to that particular one, and they can access it easily through a platform like YouTube, which means that sort of prior to the internet, prior to YouTube, where you would only have to be able to find a book, buy a book, see a book in a library or a bookshop, come across someone who might say something, it was a much harder, slower awakening that is now represented by what essentially is a speedy, fast, specific, precise form of awakening, that helps people tremendously. I used to listen to Abraham Hicks for a while, because that only came into my life after the ones that I was close to, and there was a newness, there was a freshness in it I liked, and the information was coming across in a way that I hadn't really experienced from an emotional state, and many people would get up and talk about how they'd been practicing the information that had been given to them, and how it had changed their lives and made their lives better, so all was good, and yet somehow they don't move on, they keep coming back because they're kind of attached to it I suppose, like they found mother or father, and that is traditionally how God is seen, and they can now speak directly to their idea of God and actually get answers. It's much better than just sort of praying and hoping and wondering if God has heard you, and then seeing things take place and either thinking he has or he hasn't, it's now down to you to interpret and understand and put into practice clearly defined ideas that if done right produce results, at least for most people, or many people, or some people. Until you find ideas that work for you and replaces the defunct, old, religious, indoctrinating, hiding, keeping, untrustworthy institutions that kind of need to go, but still many many people continue attending because they do. I let go of my ancestral Jewish religiousness when I was very very young, but I still feel connected to the race, to the people, to the fact that I have come from that path. I still find, I like to discover that certain people I might respect are Jewish, even if they might also say that they are not practicing, they're not religious, but they still get it. But many people who come from the Catholic faith still seem to work with it, even though the priest system and the corrupt, abusive, sexual, ah, it somehow doesn't collapse it, even though there have been so many, so many horrible stories coming out of Ireland and other places where corruption has taken place, it's just a horrible institution, and yet people still feel connected to it. Well, that's up to them. For many of us, the idea of attending a group on a regular basis and going through rituals and repetitive rites makes no sense. And like I say, even listening to teachings from out of voices I've never heard before, from people I've never listened to before, but can tell that it's sort of all coming from the same place, just as the idea that all roads lead to the same place, back to source, it just makes me feel like I don't need to listen to this. Not that, oh, I need, I've lost the feeling of the crutch from Mooji or Bashar especially, who gave me tremendous information, and there's still value, there's always value in listening to those when I come across them, because I like, it's sort of, if I haven't been around them for a while, it's like finding an old friend, and just hanging out with them for a bit, and remembering why you really like them. It may be harder, in some ways, not to be constantly reminded, because it can make me feel better, so I suppose if I'm struggling, it's worth a visit to higher vibrations, to be reminded of who I actually am, and not to get so affected by things that ultimately don't really matter, or even exist. So they always have their use, and many people aren't feeling good, many people are struggling, and so being able to find their way to a very specific, be recommended by people that they love to some particular specific teaching can be exactly what they need. How long they stay, I suppose it depends on how much comfort they feel they get. I feel like some people do just stay there, they've found their place, and they don't want to leave because they know what it's like to be alone. They're not lonely anymore, they've got community, they've got support, they might know people, all of these things can be really good, and I don't put them down because I've never really had them, I've always kept myself separate. I don't have to tell people things that I see that they could do with a little boost of higher energy, I don't have that in me anymore, and I don't need to listen when people start spouting what they say, they know, I'm not around people like that really. And if I am, if they do, here and there, I just allow them to, I don't take it in as if it's truth. It may be truth, but I don't hear it as truth, I just hear it as something they are saying, and then carry on with no judgement, and it's all good.