The Princess Bride

Dennis and Bonnie talk about their love for the movie "The Princess Bride". They discuss how they first watched it and how it has become a family favorite. They also mention their recent experience of watching the movie in a theater and meeting Mandy Patinkin, who played Inigo Montoya in the film. Mandy shares some stories about his time on set and his memories of making the movie. Hi, welcome to Sydney Cinema. I'm Dennis. And I'm Bonnie, and we're here for a bonus episode. Bonus! Yes, we're going to be talking about a movie that was nowhere near the best-pictured lineup in 1987. What are we talking about today, Bonnie? Today we're talking about The Princess Bride. Yes! Ever heard of it? I have heard of it. What's your history with The Princess Bride? I didn't see it when it came out in the theater in 1987. Yeah. I can't remember when I first watched it. Yeah, somebody... Not terribly long after that. Yeah, somebody introduced it to me, and it was like, well, that's fun. And then, let's see, 87, so I was in college. And then, I don't know, by 1991, I was having kids, and the kids were really little. Then when we started, just really, it came out again. And the more times I watched it, the more times I loved it. And now we watch it at least once a year on Christmas Eve. Oh, okay. Sometimes more. And yeah, well, I mean, we... I don't... It's hard to go a week without quoting something from this movie. It just always comes up. So it's really, we named our dog Fezzik after one of the characters in the movie. Not only did we name him after that, but when we thought of the concept of getting a new dog, it was like, let's get a giant dog, we'll get a male, and we'll name him Fezzik. Wow. So we did have a buttercup for a while, but after a couple weeks, maybe not even, maybe it might have been a couple of days, Tessie was a little bit better. And then we tried to also adopt a Chihuahua, and we were going to name him Bissini, but we just couldn't get a good match. Yeah. I really wanted a Fezzik and Bissini. Anyway, yeah. Let's get a six-fingered dog. Six-fingered dog. They're harder to come by. I actually did see the movie when it came out. Our brother Joe, who we've talked about before on this podcast, is a huge Mark Knopfler fan from Dire Straits. And he did the score for The Princess Bride. Amazing score. Yeah, really great score. Was the score not nominated for anything? The score itself was not, but the song was. Oh, it was nominated. Okay. That was its only nomination, was for Best Song for Storybook Love. Okay. It's a great song. It is a great song. So Joe wanted to see the movie just because it's Mark Knopfler, and it looked like a kid's movie. So he invited me, and we went to see it just when it opened in 1987. And I just loved it. I would have been 11 or 12. Yeah. Yep. And I just I totally just fell in love with the movie. And it was not a hit movie that people were talking about. It's kind of started to catch on little by little, like out on video. And I do remember not terribly long after that, like a teacher showed it in class in one of those days where the teacher just shows a movie to catch up on something. What was with that? Yeah. But anyways, this was a good movie to show kids. And I felt special because I was like one of the only ones who had seen it before. And they still didn't like me after that. But that's a whole other story. But anyways, yeah. And this is a huge family favorite. Huge family favorite. Among actually just me and the brothers. Cindy, not so much. She's not all that familiar with it. Her parents are only vaguely familiar with it. But of us five siblings, four of us could basically quote everything. Pretty much all of the next generation. Yeah, exactly. Completely. Yeah. Yeah. So I have to give a shout out to Jennifer for taking me to this movie. Yeah. He did a good job on that. Yes. Yeah. He has a great family too. He does have a great family. Yeah. Yes. But he stopped me from going to see The Last Emperor a couple months later. So yeah, that's another story. You can hear about it on one of our podcasts. I like this movie better than The Last Emperor. Yeah. The Last Emperor won Best Picture for 1987. Okay. I like this movie better. Well, the Last Emperor is fine. It looks great. Well, Dennis, you should tell us what the movie is about. Yeah. Well, this is about a grandfather. Oh, yeah. Played by Peter Fogg, who comes to read his young grandson a story. Because he's sick in bed. Because he's sick in bed. He doesn't want to hear it at all. But eventually we get into this story set in kind of a medieval fantasy land where you have a farm boy and a farm girl who fall in love. And then he supposedly gets killed and the prince wants to marry her. And then we get introduced to pirates and swordsmen and giants. And there's filled with adventure and true love, sword fighting, kissing, shrieking eagles and large rodents. And the grandson loves the story. Yeah. And that's the end. Yeah. That is a framing device done well. That's such a great framing device. Yeah. And they do it again. This is My Beef with Titanic, which is a movie that I have reluctantly admitted that I actually really, really like. Yes. Still one of my favorite ones that we've watched so far. Anyway, but I hated the framing device. But I think it was going for something like this. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, this is a terrific framing device and it would be a different movie without it. Yeah, it would be. Yeah. Yeah. It's really, really good. Yeah. So maybe we should talk about what is your, why are we talking about this now? Yeah. So we're talking about this now because this week, all of a sudden I had an opportunity to go see it in the theater, which for me was the first time seeing it on the big screen. And we have a friend of ours who is part of the, who's actually has a very good friend who leads the Cinema Society of San Diego. Andy, well, our friend is Ken, but his friend, Andy, I should remember his name. I can't remember Andy's last name, but he's a big guy in the movies. He's involved in the industry and he runs the Cinema Society of San Diego. And so what they do- How do you join that? You pay a lot of money. A lot, a lot? I suppose I could look it up. Yeah, we could look it up. I was the youngest that I noticed in the theater for this. So they do showings of films, some new films coming up. I have heard now just the intro. I'll get into that. Anyway, so they get together for screenings and then they'll have people involved in the movies come and talk to this group. So this week, the screening was for Princess Bride. And usually, or very often they're new movies, although I think they're, I don't know if it's very often, but they do both old movies and up and coming movies. And then Mandy Patinkin was there. And so he plays the Spaniard, Enigo Montoya in this and is one of our beloved, I mean, they're all beloved characters. He's definitely one of our favorites. They're all great. Yeah, they're all great characters. He's definitely one of our favorites. So our friend, Ken, was telling me that he had these tickets, but he and his wife couldn't go. And he asked me if I wanted to go. And I was like, wait, so what is the movie? He says, Princess Bride. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And I didn't have time that evening. But anyway, so it's this last minute thing. And then he said that Mandy Patinkin was going to be there. And he's like, yeah, I think he was the, and he gave the wrong character. And I was like, no, no, no, here's Enigo Montoya. That's not what that was. But anyway, so I was like, well, I just have to go. So I did text Dennis. And I should have texted my other brothers. But then I called Adam. I thought I was picking him up at the airport, but he actually got in at 1pm. Okay, so I found out afterwards. I was like, okay, well, and so he came, he came with me. So we had to go, I actually had to present our, you know, you had to go get your, your passes. I brought as a, as a show and tell today, my pass is that I had to present myself as the other person. Because we weren't on the list, but that they were there. And so it got us into two things. It got us into the show. And then not everybody who is at the showing could go to the meet and greet. But anyway, we got to go to both the showing and to the meeting with Andy Patinkin afterwards. So, so it's really, it was pretty awesome. And I was in this theater. So they, they rented a theater. This was the one over at Claremont Square. Yeah, I hate the parking there. Do you? I don't mind the parking there. It's right in front of the theater. That's all it is. But there are skinny spaces and they get crowded. Yeah. Yeah, they do. It's part of a shopping center. Yeah. So anyway, we went there. And as I said, it was filled with a bunch of wealthy, older people. Okay. A lot of them seeing it for the first time. Wow. Okay, that's great. So it was kind of fun watching this movie. First of all, watching this, the first time watching the movie where it's not like half the crowd, which is our family reciting every line. So it's hard to remember to like stay silent the whole time. But you know, just being part of this buzz with everybody, most of them older, so not having seen it. So, and it's a great movie. It just doesn't, it goes by so fast. Yeah, it's really plotted so well. It's tight as a gum. There's like no lag. No, there's no lag. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so then Mandy Patinkin came on afterwards. Yeah. He actually arrived in the theater right at the point where his character got stabbed in the stomach. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, and so then he, afterwards, before the meet and greet, he just answered, you know, people ask questions and he just told stories of his memories of being on set and on the film. So great. Yeah. So I should tell you a few of those. Okay, great. Yeah, I'd love to hear it. So, and I actually didn't come prepared. I had typed out some of the things so that I wouldn't forget, but it's only been a few days. Okay. So one of the stories that he, first of all, he had very fond memories. They had a lot of fun making this film. Yes. He very famously is a swordsman in this film. That's who he plays. That's his expertise in this. And he, they didn't, the only part of those scenes, especially, there's this very epic between he and Wesley, the man in black, the man in black at the time, we don't know it's Wesley. They have this epic sword fighting scene that is, you know, long and involved and all that kind of stuff. The only time they use stunt doubles was when they, there's a part in there where they do flips, you know, and they actually had Olympic gymnasts. Okay. Yeah. Did the, you know, did the flip part, but they did the beginning, the jump on and the landing themselves, but all the sword play was. Who are you? Oh, so good. All the sword, all the sword stuff was them. And they had to train, they had to be trained for this. And he didn't have any prior experience. Right. So he and Cary Ellis and then Sarandon, what's his name? Chris Sarandon. Because he's the other one who is the, wait, no, no, no, no, not Humperdinck. Christopher Guest. Christopher Guest. Yes. Christopher Guest. Right. He's the other one that has to be a swordsman. They all had, the three of them had to go to training. So he went, he had to go for like two or three months, trained at Yale, their fencing program there. Yeah. And then had to follow up with more training with an Olympic coach, a fencing Olympic coach for that. So they literally learned how to had a fence and then the choreograph. And he said that that scene, so that was really interesting. I didn't know how they had done that. Yeah. He talked about how much fun it was to do those scenes. Right. He and Cary Ellis, right? That how much fun they had just practicing and practicing all that part and then performing it. Yeah. And it was just a real joy. And to the point where this, that was one of the last things that they filmed in the movie was that scene. It's kind of early on in the movie, but it was one of the last things that they filmed. But how sad he was when they had the final cut, they got it. And just because it was over and that had been like such a part of their lives for, up to that point. And I think he said that Rob Reiner, they were having trouble getting some of the angles of these shots. Yeah. So they had already filmed everything, but then Rob asked them if they'd do the whole thing one more time with a, like an overhead shot, you know, they must've been using, I don't know if it was prior to drones. So whatever they using, just his euphoria of doing that. And, and he has the sword. He has the two swords. So yeah, he has that sword that was, he presented as his father's sword that they showed him using, right? Never seen a sequel. Never seen a sequel. Yeah. So he has that sword and then the one that, I guess it's the one that he actually used all the time. So anyway, he has both of those framed up in his, framed up and such in his house. But anyway, so that was some of his memories from that. Another fun memory that he talked about is they were filming, I can't remember where he said, somewhere like Ireland, Scotland, somewhere up in Northern Europe. They have castles. Yeah. And anyway, the, the rodents, did I just tell you this part about the Rodents of Unusual Size? You sent me the clip from it. Oh, I did send you the clip from it. I forgot I had that. I forgot I took a video of him talking about it. Rodents, the Rodents of Unusual Size are, they were actually played by, those were people in those costumes. And there were little people, as he was calling, he was like, so there were little people in the costumes actually playing these, which I never knew and wouldn't have known that they, I had no idea how they did those things. So it must have been a combination of kind of 80s CGI and people in the costume. Because it makes sense that there would be little people in the, somebody in the costumes, because they do a lot of wrestling with them. There's a lot of physical stuff that happens with the Rodents of Unusual Size. Anyway, they were out, these guys that were, these actors, the little people actors were very a rowdy bunch. And they, he said they were out one night during filming out in the town, got completely drunk. They probably always got drunk, but they got completely drunk. I don't know if they got in a fight, but they got in enough trouble that they got arrested. And so Rob Reiner and somebody else from the film had to go down to the police station in this small town where they were and explain to them that they needed them out. They had to, you know, they couldn't wait for whatever they wanted them to do. They just needed them bailed out tonight because they were filming with them the next day. And, you know, they couldn't delay filming. And he said he was trying to explain to them how they're playing Rodents of Unusual Size. I don't know why you couldn't just tell them they were actors in a film. But anyway, he was describing that, which I thought was a fun, fun takeaway. The other fun scene that he was talking about was the one with Billy Crystal. Oh, great. Did I tell you about that? No. Billy Crystal plays Miracle Max. He plays Miracle Max, and he's really only in one scene, which I hadn't really thought about. So Billy Crystal wasn't on set for very long. He was only there for a few days. In Carol Kane. In Carol Kane, right? Yes. You won't see it again. Yes. So they're filming in this actually pretty small space. So there's a table where you've got Wesley now dead or mostly dead, right? And Billy Crystal's on one side of the table. So anyway, they're on either sides of this table. And then those of you who know the movie can imagine next to Inigo Montoya to his, I think, left is Fezzik, right? Yes. And then just to his right is the camera. So right to Inigo's right is the camera. And then on the other side of the camera is Rob Reiner. We, of course, don't see the camera, Rob Reiner, but they're right there. And he said that Billy Crystal, who just came in for a few days, just improvised all these lines. And he said he just kept making up all these medieval jokes. Oh my God. Like mutton lettuce and tomato sandwiches, the one that we know, right? He just makes all this stuff up. None of that is in there. And every time they do a take, he does something different. It's never the same thing. And so they were having the hardest time keeping it together. And he said Rob Reiner was the worst of it. Rob Reiner could not hold it together. Everything that came out of Billy Crystal's mouth, he just kept busting up and ruining take after take after take. And so Rob Reiner had to go into the hall. Apparently there was a little hall off the room. He had to go into the hallway and stuff a towel in his mouth to keep it, to muffle it enough so that he wouldn't have to ruin the take. Let's see. One other thing that you talked about when they're in the, what do you call it? The peasant, the poor people's wooded area. What do they call that? The Thief's Forest? Yeah. The Thief's, do they call it the Thief's Forest? I want the Thief's Forest. Yeah. When they're there and Fezzik comes across Enigo Montoya and Enigo Montoya is crazy drunk and they have to, he's trying to sober him up. And so he's got two barrels of water and we see one is steaming and one is cold. And so Fezzik, Andre the Giant, is just holding up his head, up Enigo Montoya's head and dunking him one after the other. But he said that scene, they were actually doing that. I'm sure one was hot water, but they were doing that so much, he kept banging his head on the inside of the barrel. But he said the only injury he sustained in the movie though was, he said, I don't know how much of this is actor embellishing, but he said it was from a bruised rib from trying to not laugh while Billy Crystal. That's the only injury he sustained. He also described how he had his kids on set that day when they were doing that scene with the bobbing his head up and down. And he has a picture framed at home of Andre the Giant putting his hand on his four-year-old son's head. And you couldn't even see his kid's head because the hand covered so much of it. Are they talking all about his relationship with Andre the Giant? They have such great chemistry. Yeah, he said that Andre the Giant was the kindest, most wonderful person he's maybe has ever known. So that does make sense. Yeah, they did have wonderful, the two of them, the chemistry between the two of them was fantastic. But he did say the whole cast, they got along really well. At the meet and greet, I asked him if he knew how funny this was going to be. Could they tell? And he said that they laughed a lot on set. So they knew. But that they couldn't have a sense of how the movie was going to be. And he talked about how it was kind of a flop when it came out. And then actually, he said he remembers it being a flop. But then after a little bit of being out, it kind of caught on with university students and spread through that, which makes sense because I was in college at the time. And so then I also told him that our nephew, we have a nephew who is a Division One fencer. And I'm pretty sure that Jacob began fencing from loving this movie. Yes, he did. That's what I thought. Because that's what I told Mandy Patinkin, that we have my nephew, our family loves us so much, but our nephew loved him in this movie so much that he took up fencing and now he's fencing at the highest level in college. And also how much joy he's brought our family and stuff over the years. So that was really fun. So that was some of the stuff I remember from as far as the Princess Bride stuff. I also didn't know until we were in there, like I had seen Yentl, but I didn't know until I went to the screening that he actually had a big part in Yentl. So he talked about being on that set too. A very different set than the Princess Bride. But he seemed to have a great respect for Barbra Streisand. Of course. But anyway, yes, I didn't know about that. And they talked about other movies he was in that I also had never heard of. Yeah. I mean, he was in Broadway in Sunday in the Park with George and Stephen Sondheim. Yeah. So he has a good voice. Yeah. And he had been, I guess, in theater before that. And now he does a concert. But even though he sings, it's not a singing concert. It's like a narrative. Yeah. He's a storyteller. Yeah. He was in Chicago Hope, a series. I don't really watch it. Yeah. But this Cinema Society, you would love. All your people. And they screen all these things. And they also give them, they clearly had homework assignments on who saw what. All these movies I've never heard of that are, some of them are just getting buzz in whatever festival or whatever something. But yeah, they all talked about all these up-and-coming movies. I got to look into that. Oh, sounds exciting. Yeah. So they were all, yeah. So that was, they discussed that. So it was all things kind of over my head. But it's fun to go and watch it and meet him. And so that was my Princess Bride experience. Yeah. So I mean, should we talk about the movie itself a little bit? I thought we had, but maybe we haven't. It's a great movie. It is. It held up well for you? It held up so well. Yeah. Yeah. I watched it again, not in a theater. I haven't seen it, of course, in a theater even since that time with Joe. Okay. Yeah. It's just so, you know, I don't watch it every year. So I think it's been a little bit, not terribly long. You only sneak out Christmas Eve. Well, if we get together. Christmas Eve, I usually watch a different movie. Jimmy Stewart movie. Wonderful Life? Why are you rolling your eyes if it's a Wonderful Life? Because everybody does that on Christmas Eve. You wouldn't, it's a Wonderful Life theater? No, I love that movie. But it's so overdone watching that on Christmas Eve. Okay. All right. I'm not judging. Yeah, I love coming back to that. I really love, I think it has a great use of subtext, which subtext is, of course, when the, you know, the text is what's actually said and done on screen. And then the subtext is what it really means. And that's what, that's kind of the backbone of storytelling where, and you can kind of see it in this movie where the audience learns that as you wish really means I love you. Right? Yeah. And the, you know, Inigo's mantra is not just a quest for vengeance, but it's this character's whole life story. So when he's saying it, you're thinking not just of his desire to kill this guy, but of what this kid has been through in his relationship with his father. And so there's all these, it invests us with these characters. And it really kind of flushes things out in this very wonderfully plotted story within a story or within that framing device. And I think that really pays off as the movie comes to the inevitable happy ending, because you know, obviously, Leslie and Buttercup are going to end up together. It's just not going to be one of these 70s movies. All nuanced and everything. Although Humperdinck does live. He does live, and the movie spoils that. But I love how we're getting to the inevitable happy ending. And once we get to that, the grandfather interrupts it, interrupts that moment. And it's another use of subtext, because we've learned to understand that the complaints about the kissing, it's not so much that, but that actually means that the kid is not invested in the story. Right? Okay. And so we have that kind of payoff where I'm saying that, okay, he actually doesn't mind, and he wants to hear how it ends, that he's kind of come around full circle. And so the big happy ending, it's not so much just a love story between Leslie and Buttercup. It's a love story between a grandfather and his grandson. And it ends with the grandfather saying, ashubish, or I love you, to his grandson. And it just gives the movie so much warmth. And that's where I say it wouldn't be the same without that framing device. Because there are some rough edges, or like the, when you were talking about before the stunt doubles for the flips. Watching it this time, I was like, oh, well, that's like a lot more obvious. Yeah. That it is a stunt double, even for a 1987 movie. Right. And you know, some of the sets look a little fake, but I think that that really works, because there is something kind of at arm's length, because we're kind of investing in the story through this child and his grandfather. And, you know, I was kind of thinking, what would this movie be like? I'll hand it to Rob Reiner, who's a very efficient director, and had a real strong streak there. But he's not a genius, right? What if Steven Spielberg had directed this? Are you saying Steven Spielberg is a genius? Oh, yeah. I mean, he's a phenomenal director. You know, it's as great as that Rob Reiner had, he doesn't really have a distinctive style. Like, you're not going to see, you know, When Harry Met Sally, and A Few Good Men, and The Princess Bride, and say, oh, the same person, the same mind made these. They're all, well, When Harry Met Sally, and The Princess Bride are great. And, you know, A Few Good Men is good. Yeah, it's entertaining. But I think it just, it really, because if that, volume of the movie were produced at the level of Raiders of the Lost Ark, where everything looks great, and it's just filmed with consummate skill, it would kind of take us out of that framing device. Because like, imagine Raiders of the Lost Ark, where we get a device where everything's just a book that some guy's reading, it would lessen the stakes, right? Because we're too invested in the body of it. Whereas here, we get invested, kind of, we do get invested in these characters, because they're great characters. It's through this really sweet relationship. And it's even, the framing device is so well done, because you do have, it kind of has its own character arc, because every time it's interrupted, it's more investment in the story, right? Because they interrupt it with the eels, and the kid's like, well, I wasn't, I'm just a little concerned. But later in the movie, he's like, who kills Humperdinck? And, you know, really well done. So credit to Fred Savage and Peter Fox, who are very, I think, an essential part of this movie. Yeah, it's interesting that he starts out with that, Fred Savage, like the kid, starts out with that, who kills Humperdinck, or not starts out, but in the middle of the movie, as he's getting invested into the revenge part, right? And that was one of the things that Mandy Patinkin talked about, his big takeaway from the film, because people have asked him, what do you think it is about? And you're supposed to say true love, right? And then you describe true love as the father, the grandson, or, you know, however you do it, you know, it's framed as this. But he said he sees it as his final words in the movie. Remember when they're at the, he's already avenged his father's death. Yeah. He killed the six fingered man. Right. And now they're about to jump onto the horses and jump out the window onto the horses and run away. And right off into the sunset. And he, his whole life has been about avenging his father's death. And now he's done it, and he, yeah, and he feels it didn't satisfy. Yeah. You know, that vengeance doesn't satisfy that thing. Kind of like unforgiving. Right, exactly. But anyway, he talks about that, and he related it to politics of today, but that's just the sense of, you know, there's, that will never be satiated. Yeah. Yeah. Vengeance will never be satiated. So you need a greater purpose than that. And so anyway, so he said that that's what he's most proud of in that movie is his final. And that storyline just balances so well with the love story. Yes. You know, it's just kind of like a sweet and sour type of yin and yang. Yeah. Kind of fit together. Right. So well. And even that subplot is also just kind of a love story between Inigo and his memory of his father. Right. And the friendship story with Fezzik. Yeah. There's just so much to investment. It's such a great movie. Yeah. And I love how you're saying that it should have this, I mean, the song, the Mark Knopfler song talks about the storybook, you know, that this is a storybook love story, storybook ending, all that kind of stuff. And it does have this feel of a not real life. We're not entering into medieval times, but it's a storybook, you know, the whole knot on the wall. It's that, you know, on the tree stump where you, you know, enter into this. But yeah, there's so many just wonderful things. And I do love this movie. I love it, too. He did mention Storybook Love, which was the movie's only Oscar nomination. Yeah. Right. For Best Song, it did lose the Best Song Oscar that year. So Ken, I want to see if you can name this too. Okay. Which is the movie that did win Best Song for 1987. Okay. It's not from The Last Emperor. I think you'll get this, though. I've Had the Power of My Life. Yeah. That's how I can see it. That's a great song. Yeah. Princess Bride's better than Dirty Dancing. It holds up way better. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Dirty Dancing is pretty fun. It is a fun movie. I really, I liked it. But it. Yeah. Did you do a limerick? Maybe. Okay. I have one. Okay. Ready for mine? Yes. Okay. In Florin, a love story is retold with heroes and villains quite bold, but true love prevails as the story unveils a tale of adventure and gold. That's one of the best ones. I think that might be the best one it's ever done. That is. That's great. That's really good. Yeah. I took a completely different tack with mine, but that was a very good one. Oh, you did. I love this. Is this me, is this me, Kevin? I forgot that. I think he's named, but he's Kevin in the Wonder Years. Grandfather pulls out a book, but the kid couldn't bother to look. Then tales of excitement inspire enlightenment. Now Kevin is totally hooked. Oh, that's so good. Yeah. I do kind of see it as the framing device. It's kind of essential. It's so great. Yeah. And really just makes it a different movie than it otherwise would have been. Yeah. Yeah. Anything else on the Princess Bride? No, this is fun. I'm glad. I mean, we've been kind of wanting to talk about this movie the whole time. Is there another movie that's like this for us that we just love but we'll never talk about? Well, we can talk about whatever we want. I mean, maybe like Toy Story. We can definitely talk about Toy Story. Or The Incredibles. Maybe we could do a Pixar ranking after this. I do have another ranking that you need to do. Oh, yeah. What is it? First of all, to see if you can name and rank all the Robert Redford directed movies. Like right now? No, because it's not on topic. But maybe we'll do it at lunch, if you want to go to lunch. Sure. Now everybody's getting in our business. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think I'll get a few of them. I think one of them was from 1992. Oh, really? Yeah, that would be unforgiven for best cinematography. Anyway, that's not relevant. These are the sort of things that we talk about when we go out to breakfast. Yeah. Or today, maybe we'll go out to lunch. Okay, so let's do that. So we can wrap this up. And you don't get to hear our Robert Redford discussion, because we already talked about his only best picture winner. Yeah. So that's for you. Yeah, as you want. If you're not into Robert Redford, just watch Ordinary People again. Yeah. Or this thing. Yeah. But I actually prefer Ordinary People. I'm weird that way. Well, we'll see what the list says. Yeah, the list thinks this thing is better. No, I meant the list that I have. Oh, okay. I don't know if I'll get the whole list, but yeah. Well, we'll see. So, yeah, that's the Princess Bride. And next week, we'll be back to continue our ranking of the best picture winners. We're deep into the top 20 now. Yeah, pretty well. Approaching the top 10. Yeah. So this is our bonus episode. This is our, we'll call it shout out to Jacob. Shout out to Jacob. Shout out to Mandy Patinkin. Right. Shout out to Mandy Patinkin. Yeah. We will, the only one for the Princess Bride that we'll see again is Carole Kane, I think. She has a small role in Annie Hall. Oh. We did already see Robin Wright in Forrest Gump. I don't think we'll see any of them again. At any rate, we'll be back next week to continue our countdown. Yes, we will. Thank you for joining. Bye. Bye.