LS_30116 vanessa cooke 4

The speaker discusses the challenges facing South Africa post-apartheid, highlighting issues with the education system, lack of training in various fields like theater and nuclear plants, and resistance to retraining. They mention the impact of Bantu education, closure of colleges in homelands, and the reluctance of older generations to pass on knowledge. The conversation emphasizes the need for retraining and addressing qualification gaps in different sectors. No, and people always say, especially white people, you know, it's been 20 years now. It should have sorted itself out. It's not just going to sort itself out. People are delicate and scared, you know. I can... Yeah, yeah. And it's... Yeah, of course. And people have to know, have to have a know-how. They, from the very beginning, don't know how. I mean, Bantu education has destroyed this place. Bantu education. The education system from apartheid. And it's not just going to be okay now. They closed half the colleges and... In the townships or in the homelands? In the homelands and... It's hard. And why did they close it? The nets. They closed them before they lost power. The nets? The Afrikaners, yeah. Ah, okay. They didn't help. Okay. At all. Ah, okay. Yeah. No, I mean, this is what Paul Hoodboom, for example, described to me yesterday, saying that there is a serious qualification problem in the state theatre. That there are only very few older guys who know still properly how to use... How to use the theatre. The theatre, in a way. And that all the... They have loads of sound guys, but they are all... They know how to make it loud or... DJs. Yeah, something like that. But they don't know how to create sound. How to deal with it properly. How to technically drive a complex play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And... It's true, because there was no training at the state theatre. None. Yeah. And then those big white guys left most of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I said, bye. Thank you. And those who are there are not willing to train. And nobody said, stop. Stop. Don't. You know? And this happens in a lot of spheres. I mean, the nuclear plants. Those guys kept the information very much to themselves. And then they were offered packages. Bye. And then you left with somebody who's not sure. But who has a job. Go on and lose your job. Because there are not that many jobs. It's very hard, I think. I have a friend who is... She is now... There's a big program of retraining teachers. And a lot of the teachers resist, you know? Yeah, of course. You're touching... You're touching a soul. Soul plays. But it has to be done. Yeah, no, I agree with Paul. And you see, that's why the market was clever. But now, even... There's not necessarily a job for everybody who's trained. It's hard. Yeah. Well, I think we can stop here. Okay. I'm sorry I haven't got the flowery good news. I will transcribe this.