Episode 2: Aliens

The hosts of a podcast discuss the topic of aliens and UFOs. They mention that a government official testified that the government had biological samples from aliens. They also talk about the government's lack of control over this information and how it is now in the hands of third-party companies. The hosts share personal experiences and discuss the possibility of more whistleblowers coming forward in the future. They mention a UFO landing incident in Michigan that was kept hidden from the public. Overall, they discuss the shifting dynamics and lack of transparency regarding the government's involvement with aliens and UFOs. All right, guys, well, welcome back. Welcome, welcome. This is Rob. Alphonse. Yes, sir, we're back. You're not going to get our last names yet because you guys haven't earned that right, but you'll get there. Most of our listeners probably know our last names. It's actually just probably three people. One of them is my sister. Shout out to Hannah. Hey, Hannah. And Luke. I've got to give a shout out to Luke. And Joe. That's pretty much it. Does anybody listen in from your end? I do. So shout out to Alphonse. Other than that, no one else. But it's okay because we're having fun. So we're going to start this off by saying I came over. We're doing a deep dive. We're doing a deep dive on aliens. I just want to say that I really appreciate Alphonse for the past two weeks. He's just got like not even knuckles deep. I'm talking like whole shoulder deep into alien. Like calling me so many times. I called him back because I had some questions. But calling me and like telling me more and more information. He just did super deep diving. He had to go in the backyard and meditate for an hour and a half just to get his mind right. But I was so glad that we could do this podcast because there's a lot of information he's done. Research he's done. I feel like people need to know it. Oh yeah, dude. Take it as you will. And so like I would say we really need to start off by some information that blew my mind when he told me this. And it makes a lot of sense. I mean have we even, I don't even know if they know what we're talking about right now. With aliens, yeah. Okay. Yeah, aliens. Yeah, no. We're definitely talking about aliens. But let's start it off by like aliens. Like what's going on right now because I think what's going on right now is super important for how the rest of this podcast will go into all the information that we have. So like Alphonse, what would you say is so significant that you've learned about what we know about UFOs, aliens, and all that as of right now? Well, right now I think the big deal right now is we have the guy David Grouch. I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name correctly, but he went to Congress and basically testified that he knew other people, some of his colleagues, other high officials in high departments, who were witnesses and had evidence and knew information and knew that the government, at one point in time, the government had biological samples from aliens. I don't know if we should call them aliens or not. I mean that's… Would you call them EBOs? That's what some people refer to them as, but I mean, I don't know. It's hard to put a name on it, but we'll say aliens for right now. We'll call them aliens or… I say, yeah, I say aliens. Aliens, but yeah, they have material. So basically they have alien bodies and they also have alien spacecraft. Do they have alien space suits? Possibly, man, possibly. Are they shiny and chrome? I'm sure that they've got some bodies and they say that there's a film over the body that they wear, almost like a suit almost, but it protects their skin and under their skin is actually quite lighter. But that's a little bit deeper. Yeah, yeah. I just real quick like to think of my aliens when I think of aliens and kind of like a chrome looking Elvis Presley collared kind of status, you know, with a cape. Well, I mean, we've had conversations about this before. Didn't you have an experience? I did actually have an experience. I would say I was nine, maybe 10. It was when the Starcraft N64, which is funny because it's all about aliens. It was going off and I looked outside the window because in Michigan you don't have AC. You just have the windows open. So the windows are open. I go, I look out the window. I see right above this parking lot that's really, really close, really, really, really close a helicopter, but it is not making sound at all. It's just hovering there. And so I like tell my friend and he sees it and then we start panicking. So we run to my friend's mother's room and we're like, we can't, we're freaking out. There's aliens. And so we, she's like, fine, you know, whatever. She's just so tired. But then we can't shut up because we're just talking about aliens. And she's like, get the hell out of this room. Get out right now. Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. I mean, it was, it was, it was gliding. Like it was going kind of like a helicopter would, but not making any sound. You know what's interesting about what you said, what you're saying right now? And for all you other Michigan listeners out there, you might find this pretty interesting too. But there is also evidence of a big landing UFO that happened in Michigan. And that was actually kept under wraps. Never really made it to like mainstream media, but there's evidence of it. And it's actually quite a big deal. What? Yeah. Where at? I'm not sure. I haven't, I haven't gotten to all that, the information on that yet. What year would you? That's actually new information to me because I wasn't even aware of myself. But I was listening to another podcast where they had actually mentioned it. And, but yeah, I've yet to do more research on that, but I plan on getting into it. So talk to me again about kind of the government. Because anytime we think of aliens, we think of the government. This was something that you told me that kind of blew my mind. Yeah, well, what we're starting to figure out is that, okay, it's not as black and white as we all might have thought with the government. So a lot of people think that the government is trying to keep these secrets. And, you know, if you thought that at one point in time, you're right. They were trying to keep this under secrets and they were trying to keep this under wraps. But what has happened now is that the government no longer has control over that information or over that evidence or over that research. There's these third parties, third party companies, these blackout companies that are funded by the government, that the taxpayers, our money, our dollars go to. But the government officials, the higher-ups, the officials that you would think would be privy to this information, the president, they don't have access to this information. They don't have clearance. And, you know, I think it's an easy way for people who aren't voted into government to have control over that information, right? Like essentially they did that out in Iraq. Like when they needed to go into a city to get something, but they had to follow law, certain like, you know, global laws or whatever, they hired what was it called, Blackwater, to go in these third-party mercenary groups. Like the higher-ups, some of them didn't have, they probably didn't need to know, right? But you had these other people in government, again, that aren't voted in, dealing with these situations through third parties. And that way they're not kind of restricted through any law or any like obligation to tell anybody. They're not actually controlled by the government. You know, they're not actually controlled by the government. And they're not trying to put this information out either. That's why it's been under wraps for so long. But now there's government officials who's trying to tap into that information, like David Grush. And they're being stopped. They're being stopped from being able to get to that information. And it's been what I would call maybe like a shift. Like, to me, his name's David, right? Yeah. I would be, so basically they tasked him with going in and being like, hey, look, we need some oversight, go see it. And he just goes in there immediately just like, holy crap, dude, what is going on? Especially with all the new laws that are out with the whistleblowing. He was probably like, I just got to get this out, man. What the hell? But why? To me, that seems – it could seem careless like there is a reason for it. But at the same time, the government is not as calculated as everyone thinks them to be at times. Sometimes in history you've seen the government become kind of sloppy. And maybe the people that are in control outsourcing this information to third parties aren't keeping and maintaining other factions of the government. So then they're like some faction of the government is like, let's go do some oversight. Then all of a sudden they don't pick the right person that's going in. Because you would think that the people who are the ones in control are going to pick someone to go in there and be like, yeah, everything looks dandy. But somehow that didn't happen. That's the thing. The government officials or at least the people in government who you might think of as the ones in control are even not in control or aren't even cleared to access this information or to get this information. So it's just like you see certain people who at first were kind of like looking at the government a little funny where it's just like, oh, you know, the government is trying to keep all this secret. But now their view of the government is kind of starting to change where it kind of looks like the government is starting to ask some of the same questions as the people are. Trying to figure it out. Yeah. So now that this accountability is in play where the government is essentially holding these organizations a bit more accountable, there's going to be more whistleblowers. They're going to be coming out. There's going to be a lot of probably cover-ups and stuff like that. Well, I want to clear something up here really quickly too. This isn't to say that the government didn't have these things or didn't have access to this information at one point in time. When we got the Roswell crash and everything like that and the Blue Book project was set up and different things like that to try and deny UFO cases and different things like that, that was the government. Those were government programs. But those were old time. Yeah, but those were older. At a certain point, these government programs – or not government programs, but these companies that were actually doing the research where all this money is going to, they gained the control. That's where they kind of blossomed. The admirals and the colonels and the generals didn't have access. They didn't have clearance. Really? They had to keep it under wraps. So that's probably where those people started to begin forming or those institutions started to form. Exactly. Because it's interesting too. I remember watching a Jon Stewart interview talking about all these audits they were doing on the government. The one audit that they were not able to get back and he was kind of getting on to her, this lady who's over the military and the budget with that. Basically, they couldn't tell the people where all that money was going. He was really frustrated with that. So it makes sense that like, yeah, if we saw where this money was going, how much is it going to these organizations? Well, I watched a documentary and this is where Rob says I was doing my knee deep. Dude, just wait until you hear all the research he's done. So I watched this documentary and basically what Steve Greer said, who's like one of the top guys on UFOs. He's actually got a Ph.D. He's a doctor. He's a surgeon. But he's also like top notch with UFO knowledge and he has all these documents and he's been tapped on the shoulder by government officials to explain this information. But I want to say that he said it's got to be somewhere between $24 to $80 billion. What? Yeah, that's going to these black site companies. It's funded by the government, but even the government can't access the information. It'd be nice to have a little bit of that money for schools. I'm sorry. You're right. You're 100% right, man. You're 100% right, but then also it's just like the reason why this information and these companies are keeping this under wraps or they don't want this information out is because it's a situation of turning the economy upside down. Energy. Energy wouldn't be the same. We wouldn't be relying on oil. Limited energy resources to do all sorts of things. So it makes sense that they would do some investment for that, especially if it's a third party, then they could sell that information to different companies. Right. Since there's a lack of accountability, you've read newspapers for the past couple of weeks. You've been watching documentaries. You've been going on Reddit. You've been going through all these different types of... What would you say is the most compelling or the one that you found most interesting? Like, wow, this is some really interesting information that seems valid about the aliens. Well, one thing that I thought was pretty interesting, I mean, I can't necessarily speak to its validity, but it was very, very interesting to read. There was a Reddit post about a month ago that came out, and it was basically this guy who claimed to work for this lab that was studying alien bodies. They were studying alien bodies and studying alien DNA, studying the tissue and everything. So he did this whole post where he talked about their genomes. He talked about how they were different from ours. He talked about how their heads were different, their face was different, how their arms were different, all their physiological aspects, and some about their biology, too. And it was very interesting. But from his research, what I think was kind of most interesting about that research that he did, and the research that he did is on the traditional aliens that you hear about. You hear about the greys. They're the four feet, big eyes, big-eyed aliens. Exactly. The most interesting thing that he had in his post that was actually quite long and filled with a lot of information. I encourage anybody who's out there listening to go check it out if you've got time to read. But the most interesting thing about it was that there was a lot of evidence to support the idea that these greys that they were finding in these red ships were actually biological AI. So you've said this to me. We've talked about this on the phone extensively. Right. So AI drones would essentially be another creature from another planet who's basically sending them code of like, hey, we need this or that, or it's basically telling them what to do, like little biological AI robots. Right, giving them a direction. Okay. And they come down and they carry it out. Or maybe they come up and they carry it out. So that may be why, like to me, when the US government talks about like, oh, well, they're just shooting these UFOs out of the air left and right. And I'm sitting here like, why are the aliens not retaliating? You know, I would, if it was me, I would be like, holy crap, should we fire? And if we do, could there be like a retaliation? But they're just so willing just to shoot. So it makes me think, I wonder if they're privy to that, like, these aren't really aliens that if we shoot them down, they're concerned, we're concerned with. But what you said to me was very interesting, too, is that the guy on Reddit is throwing out all this information about, you know, what he, what he, I guess, dissected. Yeah. And there's a bunch of people that came out that were... I don't think he dissected anything. I don't think that he dissected anything. He had access to a lot of information, and he was studying the genes. So he was coming at it from like a specific point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was able to answer questions from Redditors who were doctors, who were geneticists. Yeah, and a lot of those, a lot of those Redditors who were in the post and asking him like technical questions, kind of just trying to gauge... Yeah, yeah, yeah, trying to see if he was actually, you know, studied in genetics and actually had a doctorate in those sorts of things. And a lot of them confirmed like, hey, the way the guy is answering these questions, you know, he knows what he's talking about. Like just for this right now, like what we're focusing on is what the government's basically trying to focus on. And so we're going to focus on basically just the gracer right now. And so if they are AI, little, you know, fleshy AI bots, like, which is weird to think, they're not robots, but they're like biological material that is like robotic in a way. Like we had to use robotic, that word, just to comprehend. Or AI. I mean, AI is a hot thing right now. So it's just like, it makes sense. So to me, what I find so interesting, and we've talked about this before, is the question between aliens coming from space or from the oceans. And I am kind of under the opinion that why, if you are an alien being, a very intelligent alien being, you come to a planet filled with a bunch of these like really smart monkeys, you know, and then you kind of hover over them. That's where we get all the history of like ancient aliens and all that crap. But before they leave, why not set in the ocean where they know these life forms are not going to be able to access, or very rarely, or maybe there's a way to camouflage? You know, I think that's what it comes down to. It's all about access, you know what I'm saying? Whether it's the oceans or, you know, some people say it's in Antarctica, you know, or whatever, or some people say Bermuda Triangle. But I think it's all about access. There's been claims that they've been here for a long time. Most of the people talking about these things are saying that they've been here for a long time, and so it would make sense that there might be some sort of base or some sort of… Just a way to access the planet. Like when you leave the planet, you're going to want to be able to… Because these AI beings could essentially become just like a tape recorder, like little iPhones walking around, just giving you visuals of stuff, and taking in audio and visual, and maybe even collecting sample stuff, or just getting a pulse on the culture, how things evolved. And you can't just send someone from your ship, send someone from your planet. If you're already there, you might as well just keep little pods there in the ocean. Every time you need to check in, they come out, you know what I mean? But you were also saying something that was very interesting, because a lot of the times when you hear about UFOs, the shapes of the UFO ships are never the same. Would you say that are they different aliens with different ships, or are they the same greys or same aliens, and they're just making different ships or have different ships? Well, some of the things that I was reading about it was basically saying that it's speculated that there's alien bases, right? You know, whether it be Bermuda Triangle or Antarctica or what. And all this information, some of this information is not new information, but the reason why I want to talk about it and bring it up is just because the government has admitted to having these things, and having biological material, having alien bodies. They've admitted to having these things, and the evidence of it. And so, I think we need to go back and look at some of these cases where, yeah, maybe you believed UFOs were real, but maybe you didn't believe that story where somebody said the government actually had bodies, but now we've got to re-look at those. Yeah, and I think, hitting on that point, the guy that was on Reddit, and he was talking about the way the alien would excrete this waste, right? Like, we poop and pee, but these aliens, how would they excrete it? Yeah, well, they don't have a normal penis or vagina or anus or anything like that. The way that they excrete their waste is through their skin. And so, in excreting their waste through the skin, you hear these stories about when people make alien contact, these terrible smells that they smell. Now, does the feces and urine or whatever it is, because, again, they don't eat, like, these AI aliens, you also said they don't necessarily eat. I imagine it's some sort of liquid, maybe. They have like a liquid kind of food. Almost like a sweat on the skin sort of thing. So, when they, it's kind of like they defecate or whatever you call it, and it just stays kind of on that skin, right? Yeah, yeah. I don't know if they get it off them or what, but it's on their skin. So, when you said that to me a couple days ago, we were watching, probably last week, a documentary about alien crash landings, or an alien crash landing that happened out in Brazil. In Brazil. Varginha, Brazil. Varginha. And there were three sisters that were very young at the time, and they said that they saw an alien run in this one area. Was it by their house? It was somewhere. It was somewhere. By a fence? Somewhere near the town. It was like a wall nearby. Yeah. Alien was kind of crouched down in front of the wall. And they looked over, and it was just right there in front of them. Not like across the street, I mean like, they were in this area. It's like in your backyard, you look over, there's an alien crouched down. They look at the alien, they scream, the alien basically jumps the fence. But what they said is they smelled an ammonia, sulfur-y kind of smell to it. They had an alien body, I believe, in that case. And I think that's what the doctors at the hospital said too. When they brought the alien bodies to the hospital because they did x-rays on them, they said that the smell was so bad, it lasted in the hospital for weeks. So just like to me, there's a lot of different things that you're finding that are coming out. There's like these threads, right? Yeah. These threads of truth. Yeah, they're definitely matching up. I'm glad that you brought that up because one of the things that you see in a lot of these cases where you have these documentaries of people talking about when these aliens crashed and the government had these bodies and the smell that they smelled coming off the bodies. And then I'm reading this Reddit post, and in the Reddit post, the guy is talking about, because he's talking about their biology and how it functions, and he's talking about how they excrete their waste through their skin and why it smells the way that it smells. And it actually gets pretty technical. I'm not trying to bore you guys with all the technical information, but it has to do with the fact that a lot of their body depends on copper. It depends on copper for a weird reason. I have to go back to the post and exactly see why. It's interesting that that would be copper because you hear a lot of the ancient aliens or one theory of why we have intelligence and stuff is because aliens came down and basically gave us some of their genes so then we could think and do things a little bit more intelligently and kind of listen to commands, I guess, be good little monkeys to them. And then we would go mine gold for them, right? So it would be interesting that they would use gold as the source of some sort of life source and then these ones would be copper, which is way more—it's not as rare. It's not as rare a material. That's what they say. I don't really know, though. I'm not 100% sure. We don't know any of it. I'm not 100% sure on the history of it because in order to really know 100% sure if that is what was going down, we need to really know their origin. And I'm not sure if we know if these beings are from another planet. What? I'm not sure if these beings are from another planet. You're saying that they're from here? I mean, they could be from here. They could be from a different dimension. You know, to keep this from going super different directions, because you're totally right. You're totally right. Aliens? What is alien? Are they from space? Are they from the ocean? Are they from different dimensions? You have to think. If they can control time and space, right, doesn't that mean that they can travel through dimensions? I mean, I'm saying—I bet there's some aliens that can, some aliens that can't. You know what I mean? I bet anything that there's not just one type of alien that has interacted with Earth. You have to be able to travel. You have to be able to have some sort of dimension travel to move the way they move, to do some of the things that people have seen these crabs do, and to function and have the technology that some of the people, some witnesses are saying that they've witnessed the technology. You have to be able to. And if you can, who's to say that they're from another planet? This is true. Who's to say that they're from another planet? And that's why I don't want to say alien. You could call it maybe like visitors or beings or something like that, because to be honest, we don't know where they're coming from, bro. They're alien. Yeah, I mean, it is. It is alien. But I guess, like, out of all, because we're kind of getting close. It is alien, but alien to what, though? To us, I guess. Alien to us, bro. But not to them. I guess we're aliens, technically, you know? But I guess we're kind of getting close to the end here. But before we go, I just kind of like, again, you've done so much for this, like so much for this. And it's just crazy how you spend, like, two weeks getting all this together for just, like, a 30-minute podcast. But what would you say is, like, the biggest takeaway out of all this stuff? Just, like, everything you've learned. Like, human beings, like, should we be scared? Should we be putting on, like, tinfoil hats? Should we get naked and then try to embrace them and give them love? I think it's an eye-opener, man. I think it's an eye-opener. I don't think that we should be scared. I know there's certain cases where you've got people who say that, you know, they're being, like, animal pros and different things like that. I mean, if that's happening, I can't speak on the validity of that, but if that's happening, then maybe you should be scared. But from all the cases that I've seen where people have come in contact with entities, you've got the case, like, Brazil, Virginia. We have a case in Africa where they landed down and it says that they communicated with some kids at a school in a rural village in Africa. And what they say is that the message is always the same, that our technology is going to destroy the world. Okay, I can see that. Our technology is going to destroy the world. They're always there. They say that there's, right now, if we were to try to take a nuke into space, the UFOs wouldn't allow it. Really? Yeah, they'd be activated bombs. So then that way it just can't be taken up to outer space. Yeah, and the claim is that they don't want us to destroy ourselves or to destroy this planet for whatever reason. But I've also heard that, like, when you set off an atomic bomb, that it does something to the other side, if you will, like the different reality that we can't see. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it definitely has effects on, you know, like the atmosphere. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because if you think about it, like, what is a bomb? The biggest concern of an atomic bomb is the radiation, right? And I know from a long time ago, I used to do a lot, read a lot about, like, physics kind of stuff, right? But they would say that there's these bruises in space. And they called them bruises because they don't know really where they came from, but there's just these, like, high amounts of radiation. And they're kind of speculating that... That's from the atomic bomb? No, actually from other dimensions colliding against ours, but since they have different physical properties, they can't... It creates bruises. It's almost like it runs up against us, but it can't mix with this reality dimension. And so it creates these high levels of radiation. So think about getting on your planet, and then a bomb from another dimension goes off, and it shoots radiation from that reality into your reality. Now you're getting radiation poisoning from this different reality out of nowhere. I mean, like the bruising that happened in space. What happens if that happened on Earth? There's definitely a possibility, man. We'd all be radiated poison and die. There's definitely a possibility because, like, the basic thing is that we don't know. We're not pretty enough to know what effects we're having on the environment when we blow up those bombs. But apparently they're not going to let us blow up anymore. So their whole thing is just like, hey, if you guys want to do all this harm to yourselves, we're going to sit here and watch you guys do this and make sure you don't affect others. And if you do affect yourself, that it's not going to wipe you out entirely. We'll save some of you, maybe. But it's just kind of like quality control, like make sure that we kind of stay in our lanes a little bit. Yeah, I think so. I definitely think so. And I think it also has a lot to do with, like, the technology that we do have access to that are in these labs, but it's not being put to use. It's fucking up the Earth. It's fucking up the Earth. It's fucking up the Earth. And we can see it right now. I'm sweating bullets right now. It's so hot. It's like 110 degrees in Houston and it's around nine o'clock. I know. You know? And, yeah, like if we had access to that tech, if they actually use that tech to better the world and better our systems, we'd have access to unlimited energy. We'd be living a whole different life right now. It was corporations. It's speculated that we lost 100 years of advancement. How? By not having access to that technology. Really? Yeah. It's like we're way, way, way behind by, like, the standards of what the tech that we actually have, everything that we have in the public is way, way behind that shit. Maybe not in Japan. I'm just kidding. But, all right, yeah, that's the UFO news from us, at least. Next week we could probably talk about something, maybe, I don't know. Who knows? We could get into a lot of different things. Yeah, we can. We could talk about barbecue sauce. I love barbecue sauce. Me too. Everyone, I feel like, loves barbecue sauce. But you know what else we love? We love you. And we're so glad that you're here with us and listening to us and giving us your patience and your time. Hopefully, you learned some things. I know I have. Thank you, Alphonse, again. And, I mean, do you have anything you want to say? No. Well, just, you know, keep those buttholes closed and don't look at the sky too hard at night. And I guess you'll be okay with aliens. Yeah. All right, well, signing off. We love you guys. Peace. Bye. Bye. Bye.