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Provincial pastors and spouse retreat 2023 day 2
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Provincial pastors and spouse retreat 2023 day 2
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Provincial pastors and spouse retreat 2023 day 2
The speaker begins by praising God and acknowledging His power and authority. They express gratitude for the blessings in their lives and ask for guidance for the meeting. They thank and appreciate the pastor and his wife, as well as the other leaders present. The speaker then apologizes for going overtime in the previous day's session and emphasizes the importance of time management. They introduce the theme of the meeting, which is "new wine for marital bliss." The speaker references Genesis 2:18, 21-23, which talks about the creation of Eve as a helpmate for Adam. They highlight the importance of cooperation and support in marriage and ministry, stating that two are better than one. They emphasize that marriage is a blessing and though there are challenges, the benefits outweigh them. The speaker encourages married individuals to work together with their spouses and not give up on their marriages, even in difficult times. They conclude by mentioning that the wife will continue the d I can't hear you, I say praise the Lord. You are God from beginning to end, there's no place for argument. You are God all about yourself, you are God. You are God from beginning to end, there's no place for argument. You are God all about yourself. Father again, we are grateful because of who you are. You are God who made the heavens and the earth and you are God by yourself. You are God not by man's election or decisions. We thank you again for another day. Thank you for the blessings of deliver to our lives and the ones you will see deliver. Today again speak to us in your own way. And at the end of this meeting glory will be given to you. In Jesus name we have prayed. Praise the Lord. Please help me before you take your seats and celebrate the set man in youth province 8, a pastor, a beloved wife. God bless you sir, we appreciate you. And the API CPs, we can do it better, let's celebrate them. The API CPs and their wives want to appreciate you greatly for this opportunity. God bless you sir and ma'am. Please be seated, you are welcome. Praise the Lord. We want to appreciate God for another day. And I want to thank you all for accepting us to be part of this meeting. Let me start on the note of apologies. Yesterday we were expected to stop around 1.30 but we stopped around 2 a.m. I'm a time keeper and my wife knows. Time is one of the things I fight for everywhere I go. And I'm sure everyone is stricken with the time allotted to them. So today we've been told to extend to 10.30 because we are starting a bit late. So just bear with us for yesterday. I know you are forgiving us. Anytime we overshoot our time of service, I apologize to my congregation. Because they already have the time. We are doing so, so time and they have what they want to go and do at home. So to overshoot that time, I just feel the Holy Ghost has moved. Next Sunday they will come. The Holy Ghost is moving. We'll go to where they will keep to time and the Holy Ghost will still move. So time management is very important as a leader. So you don't just do things anyhow because you have the power of the microphone with you. We must also ensure to let time management be part of our life. God bless you. New wine for marital bliss. Don't forget the theme of this meeting is new wine. I told us yesterday there's no way you can put, like Jesus said, put a new wine in an old bottle. So the two will burst together. So the container will be destroyed. So for us to move on in the area of marriage is very key. Yesterday we talked on the ministry. Today it's about marriage and other things. And these two are what is so important to our lives and how we can move ahead to satisfy and accomplish the purpose of God for us. Chapter 2 of Genesis, verse 18, then 21, 23. In chapter 2, verses 18, 21, 22, and 23. And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone. I will make him an helpmate for him. And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam. And he slept. That was 21 now. And he took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh instead thereof. And the rib which the Lord God had taken from man made he a woman and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, this is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman because she was taken out of man. I know we've had several messages and we have preached several on this particular scripture. It's not a new scripture to us. It's a familiar thing. And God doesn't want us to pick on two things from there before our wife will come and continue from wherever I stop today. And then I will come back just to pray for you. I like us that no one will ever excel alone without the help or support of somebody else. Life is not to be lived as a low ranger. Many people try to keep their lane, but when it comes to marriage, you can't continue to keep your lane and expect good success to come your way. This is the whole essence of marriage because in the book of Preacher called Ecclesiastes chapter 4 verses 9 and 10, the Bible may declare that two are better than one because they have a good reward for their labor. It says, for if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him that is alone when he falleth, for he hath not another to help him up. That is the whole essence of marriage, especially when it comes to ministry. Like my wife said yesterday that we must carry our wife along. We must run things together because we are already in need together. If the husband is the one who have the call, then the woman automatically have a call. You don't say God has not spoken to you and you are not going to run with your husband. The Bible says, because like I used to say, if your husband as a man, you are at level 8 or step 8 in life for the same ministry, far up to step 8 out of 10, then your wife is still at step 2 because she is not coming up like you. By the time you have a problem, maybe you fall and then you are going to decline. And the level where she is, is where she can help you up. So you will fall to that step 2 from 8 because she is not up there to sustain you. So for your marriage to be blithful, you need the help of your wife. And if it is the woman that God has called, vice versa. I have women who are in the ministry and their husband is supporting them 100%. They don't stop them. I have a woman in Lagos on a legal property 7. Each time we move the woman, the man automatically moves with her. When there is a project in church, they do it together. You will never say, this one you are calling as if you are the owner of the church. You want to kill yourself. No. When there is a project, they run it together. So two are better than one. So for your marriage to be blithful, the two of you must agree and follow each other. So today I will just say one or two things and then shall we come to continue from wherever I start. So being married is a blessing, an advantage to us. Because the Bible says two are better than one and I will explain that later. The benefit of it outweighs the challenges. Saying that there is no marriage without a challenge. There is no perfect marriage. There is no perfect home. Only God is a perfect God. So in all our lives, you have your own challenge, I have my own challenge. There is no way two of us will be together and we say we don't have any fault. I have my weakness, she has her own weakness. But the blessing in marriage outweighs the challenges. Because by the time you understand what marriage is all about and the true concept of marriage, then you will know that marriage is sweet. It is not a problem. But to many it is like marriage is a problem. I have had people saying to me all the time that where I am now, I ought not to be there, if not for the person I got married to. If I marry the right person or the right way, my life will have been better times ten of who I am now. Maybe they didn't wait enough or they didn't understand each other enough. Once you are married, you are married. And then you need to begin to work it out how things can get you up in life. Even if you marry a witch, like that Jew always say, you are married, you are married. Go and be praying for deliverance to see how you can deliver her. That's why you are a pastor. If you can't deliver your wife, who is a witch, then who will deliver the wife for you? Primarily, you are the pastor of the house, you are a pastor, and then you need to do everything possible to ensure that she becomes the kind of woman you want her to become. And so, she will be talking more in that direction. That's what the Bible says in that scripture I read earlier, chapter 2 of Genesis, that God said, it's not good for the man to be alone. And then God said, we will make a helpmate. Not somebody, one is up, the other one is down. No, he said, helpmate. Helpmate. Somebody who can fit in to your desire, who can fit in to what you are doing. And that's what Adam called the woman, the bone of my bone. Because in our body, that's what they call socket. And in all the joints where things are moving, there are sockets there that the bone has to fit into. You can't go and bring another bone to fit into a socket that is not made for it. As Adam said, this is the bone of my bone, shall be called a woman. And so, God expects you and I that are married. And if you are not married, then you have to prepare for one. When I was to get married in 1996, I was already engaged before I came to RSCG in 1990. We were engaged in court. I was an Anglican person, and this girl was a redeemed lady. She's one of the choir, but we are dating. What do you call that one? It's dating. It's not engaged. And because of nonsense love that I don't understand, when the pastor called me and said, Brother, you are doing very well. When I came into the church, how do you want to marry Jesus? So and so, I said, God spoke to me. Okay, what is your conviction? In those days, conviction is based on revelation. I was stranded, and she came with umbrella. Rain was falling. She covered my head with umbrella, and we were going together. We were smiling. I said, okay. I quickly ran, and I discussed with her. Pastor has called me. If he should call you, tell him something that will make him to know that we are going to get married. Now, pastor called actually, and she told the pastor that she was fetching water from the well. The thing was becoming too difficult for her to do. I just appeared from nowhere. That's the kind of nonsense love. Some people practice and go into trouble. But God loved me so much because there were three friends who were moving together. One confessed right inside the church during a program, a sick day program when somebody ministered. I was coming up, and then another one also confessed. I now ask her, when are you going to confess too? She said, I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch. But three of you, you wear the same clothes. Their houses are together. One here, one here, one there. So how can you tell me you are not possessed? So one day in 1995, I became a pastor. I saw a revelation that God gave to me. And I saw that she was pursuing me on water, and I couldn't swim. And she was running after me like a turtle dove. Running, running, running, running. And by the time I was out of the water, she turned to eagles with two horns, pursuing me so much. And by the time I looked back, I fell. For her to hit me with the horn, I woke up. Woke up, I became sick. I was sweating, and I became sick. In that time, there was no telephone, so I wrote a letter to her post office. And I said to her, Auntie, it's enough. She said, no. Because if not, I wouldn't be where I am today. After that disengagement, I don't think she even left to redeem. She left the church, went back to the wall. I don't even know where she is today. So even if you're married, you already made the mistake of marrying the wrong person, go and keep praying to God. You cannot go and say you want to divorce. You have to keep continuing to see how God can help you. So a few things I would say, number one, see yourself as one. See yourself as one. Don't see yourself as two. A man of God preached a message somewhere and explained the scripture to us. Our pastor was in that meeting also. And was able to let us understand that one plus one in marriage is not one. Like they say, it's not two. One plus one is not two. And explained very well to us. I would like you to also understand that too. Because if you have your daughter, and you remove a leaf out of the daughter, and then if you put it back, it's still part of that particular daughter. It's still one entity. So you must see yourself as one and not two. God made the woman as her mate for you. And by the time Adam woke up, he just saw a woman and said, this one will be called a woman, wooed out of me. So it's the same Adam that is still representing in a woman. So if you are married, if you look at yourself, the woman beside you that is your wife is still yourself. It's another version of you. And that's why you must do everything possible to ensure that she comes out of the level where you are. Number two, understand that you are incomplete without each other. You are incomplete. You are incomplete. There's no way you can say I can do everything on my own. Somebody that God has made to complement your efforts. There are things you cannot do as a man that a woman can help you to do. There are things you carry on your head. Little advice you download immediately. There are things God has put in her or in the man that will help each of us to become the kind of person we are made to be under heaven. And number three, be committed to each other. Be committed to each other. You need to do that with passion. Be committed to your wife. Be committed to your husband. It will take understanding to have that kind of commitment. You don't just do things anyhow without putting her into consideration as a man now. And vice versa, if you want a beautiful home, everybody must be carried along. And she knows there's nothing I do. And there are times me, I'm a very fast thinker. I may look so gentle by face. When it comes to action, I'm an action man. Those who have worked with me, they know if you ask me, you can't work with me. You can't work with me. That's where I have you with staffs in the office, and I told them, many of you can work elsewhere because you can accommodate nonsense. But for me, wherever I am, I'm a manager. When I get into church, I become a pastor. When I'm in the office, I become a manager. As in between a manager and a pastor, I think I'm right. A pastor can accommodate anything because people come into your church, they are not being paid. They come willingly to come and serve God, so you must pastor them. When it comes to office affairs, you are to manage them well because they are paid staffs. You must work for the money you are earning. You can't just do things anyhow and expect God's blessing to come upon you. If you spend the money you do not work for, it won't last in your hands. It's not a cost, it's a principle of God. Everything that comes to you, you must work for it. And that's why people look at me, you are very hardworking. It's not for fun of it. I know what my target is. So I have to be very hardworking because that is what God has called me to do. And so we need to be committed to each other. And then maybe I will say finally, as I wrap up this session, when we talk of new wine for monetary bliss, what are we talking about? Three things that we also had, ability to generate new ideas, that will reposition your marriage and make it enviable. Talk about new wine, you need to find a way to inject something new into your marriage. You see, one problem we have in the church is the fact that we look at organizations out there, how they are doing well and all the rest. It's because they look at what is happening in the world. If their product is no longer selling, they sit down to find out what is the problem. But in church, when the church is not growing, we don't bother. We just keep praying and fasting, keep praying and fasting, keep praying and fasting. Praying and fasting is not enough to grow a church. Because if there are other things in there that are not good, that will not allow prayer to be answered, the problem will still continue. And the person is a prayer warrior, that's not enough to grow a church. Same thing in the family. When things are going wrong, you must sit down to look at it, what else can we inject into our family that will make it better and more enviable. Because each time you identify a problem in your marriage, you can point it out. And then you can generate a new idea that will counter it. And then the marriage will begin to move on the way it ought to move. So your marriage can be enviable, it can be blithful, if you are not injecting new ideas into it per time. Like I said yesterday, as a manager, as a leader, you must be able to manage well. And if you are a man, you manage your home well. When I got on the province phone, the admin would bring bills for running of the church for one month. The first time, first month of September, and I was new. Bought a bill of about $400,000 plus to run the parish. Diesel, petrol, this, that, I just signed. I didn't bother. October, I signed. November, I paused a bit before I signed. So this one, this one, this one, I won't sign for them. When they are needed, then we address it. By January, I changed the whole system. I have to inject new ideas that can help me to achieve my target. Now, people now came and said, but earlier they said there was no money before. Where is the money coming from now? But I was able to save part of what they were wasting. The way I run my family is the way I run the church. My wife is there. She knows I'm not a waster. Whatever I don't need, I don't buy. I buy things that will make my home, my life to be okay. But as a matter of fact, I don't even buy things. I use one shoe for five years. I'm not bothered. But she can't do that because she's a woman. Are you following me? So you don't look at your wife and say, ah, you keep buying cloth, keep buying cloth. Me, I'm not buying. You are not competing. The life of a woman is not the same as the life of a man. A man can wear the same shirt for one year. But a woman can't do that. They have to keep changing because of their nature. So me, I'm not bothered. All the cloth I came back with from Lagos, from Abuja, I didn't even touch. The one I've been using, that's my own nature, not your own. Until the thing begins to fade, I won't drop it. That's my own nature. But in our own nature, what fades, it could fade. Push them out. You need to buy another one. So idea that will keep your home running, you need to keep doing that. Number two, make your marriage even on earth. She will talk more on that also when she comes. She will understand the things you need to do that will make your marriage even on earth. And number three, breaking your marriage loose from certain systems, beliefs, and practices. So when we talk about new wine for marital bliss, we're saying you need to break your marriage loose from certain systems, certain beliefs, and practices. There are systems that we are born into that can't run the present-day marriage or family, as the case may be. There are beliefs that we carry from our father's house, from your mother's house, that can't run our home anymore. But there are practices that we are used to that can't work at all. They're already obsolete. That's the reason for the new to come. My wife used to say, when I said this in the church, they laughed. I said, well, maybe that's happened to many of you too. We got married yesterday about new power soap. Now we have to bet with one. I have one, she has one. So if your own finishes, then you're on your own. Then, do your toothpaste. The kind of system I'm used to, from where I'm coming from, my background as a man, you press toothpaste from the bottom, not just anyhow. That's the system I was used to. So when she came, we were kind enough to press it. The second day I woke up, she pressed it. I would press from the bottom to fill it up. She would come the next day, she would press it out of the middle. I would fill it again. I said, stop pressing this in from the middle. As she pressed it from the middle, we emptied the whole container. So one day I realized, I'm just wasting my time. Like you press from the middle, you press from below. It doesn't make any difference. The amount of content inside it is still there. So instead of us fighting and quarreling over it, though we quarrel, we quarrel over that one. You need to press from the bottom. Ordinary toothpaste. It was the system I was used to. So I brought that into the marriage. When I came into the marriage, I'm not used to a woman. I never have any woman I sleep with. I have plenty of ladies around me, but I never sleep with one. Because my father used to warn us, if you pregnant a woman, that's a university. I can't accommodate pregnancy and send you to school at the same time. So you would choose one out of the two. Because we used to go to farm, I said I'm not going to be a farmer. I'm not going to farm every day like this. Because I see some other boys who are older than me who are then farmers. Because they pregnant a woman so early in life. So they couldn't go to school. They end up becoming farmers. I said, me? Even when they locked me up with a lady in the room, my friend, who called me a kobo. Do you know what a kobo is? This one is impotent. For one year, two years, she never touched me. They locked me up with that girl in the room. And she was touching me. I said, if you touch me, I will kill you. Be careful. Come close to me. Leave me alone. So we were there for like another 30 minutes. And I said, what am I doing here, Zev? I told him, open the door. The door was locked. I said, eh, eh, eh. Kochiche. When they opened the door, we were going. And the girl and the boy, my friend, were talking. Kochiche came out. Ah, ah. What's wrong with him? There was something in my brain that was working. If you bring in a lady, you must know I'll abort the pregnancy. The lady must come to the house or come and live. But your school, our school, I will use to take care of the girl. When I came into the marriage, I brought that into the marriage. Sleep in your room. I sleep in my room. Sex in you was a problem. I never had one before. When she touched me, I said, if you touch me again. That was the system, the belief that I carried into marriage. And many of us are still loaded with beliefs from our parents, from our brothers, people we live with, and it's still affecting our home up to today. So we need to break off from those things that our family can be better. You don't use the example of your father or your brother to determine how your home will look like. It can't work. What worked for them can't work for you at all. So that's what we mean by new wine for a blithful marriage. So if your home must be blithful, you need to. And the word blithful simply refers to the fact that it has to be joyful, celebration all the time in your home, excitement. That does not negate problems at times. But you disagree to agree on time, and you move on. We don't allow you to linger. There were days I don't eat her food. She's here. Because me, I'm a stammerer and an angry man. I get angry easily. So little things will trigger my anger. I won't eat at home. Even as a pastor, she will come beg me. No, no, no, don't beg me. But in her nature, she will always come. Saturday evening, she will beg, beg, and beg, and beg. After Sunday service, she will come back here and say, I begged yesterday because you have to go and preach. But what will you go and tell the people there? My heart will melt. So there are things, because my father, if my mother misbehaves, she will take Cain. She has Cain for my mother. He's at his room. And he will not eat. That's the kind of system I was coming from. He won't eat. He will be asking another woman to bring food from outside for him. Because he's still angry. So there are systems we are used to. Even as pastors now, we still have faith in our homes. You need to sit down, analyze who you are, and who you want to be in the future, for a better home to emerge. God bless you. I want to hand over to Anne to pick it up from here.