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2 Dec 2022 - NZ has NOT had "Emergency Covid Law" in place since 8TH JUNE 2020! There needs to be a bloody big wake up in this country! We discuss this along with - Baby Will Update, Liz's Judical Reveiw of Covid 19 Response Act and Vax Orders all being Ultra Vires The Health Act 1956 only applies to Individuals PROVEN to have disease
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2 Dec 2022 - NZ has NOT had "Emergency Covid Law" in place since 8TH JUNE 2020! There needs to be a bloody big wake up in this country! We discuss this along with - Baby Will Update, Liz's Judical Reveiw of Covid 19 Response Act and Vax Orders all being Ultra Vires The Health Act 1956 only applies to Individuals PROVEN to have disease
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Sorry to interrupt. I'm going to talk about the union now anyway. Is it all right if I just do the live Facebook thingy, Liz, and then we'll... Yeah, yeah, go for it. Yeah, don't want to interrupt the opening. Here we go. Thanks, Emma. Good evening, everybody in the Facebook band and everybody who's just joined the Zoom. A few more people popping in there. Hope you're having a good day and got some plans for the weekend. Yeah, it's kind of... I know Erica's been real hard at this week, getting her civil case just about ready to go. Wow. Changed it at the last minute from criminal to civil. We'll get a good piece of section 97 of the Health and Safety at Work Act. And that will be very, very useful for people who are contractors or etc. Yeah. Hey, I'm just going to pop out. Sound bad. We'll be back. Whose sound is bad? Oh, Lynette. Lynette. Right. Oh, she's popping out of the room. Yeah. OK. OK, cool. Yeah, but so there's justice to be sought for the people who were section 83 members then came over and joined the union. And then there's also the people that are in the workplace and more and more people are calling and saying they're putting pressure on us in the workplace. And this is, you know, the employers still don't seem to realise that what they've done has followed an outlaw government. Yeah. Because, you know, I think I spoke on Monday about the Health Act and how the positive part of the Health Act is in terms of the section in the Health Act about there will be no compulsory medical treatment in no case is how the section starts out. So that's section 92I for indigo, capital I, subsection 5. So that's going to become extremely important. I was busy this week. Was it Tuesday? Wednesday. Wednesday. I went to the High Court. Sue Grave was defending the appearance of Baby Will against the state because the state is looking for guardianship over that child. The judge wasn't willing to let the, I believe it's Starship who's seeking it, but probably the Oranga Tamariki that will be called into as well. But anyway, what happened was, I think the state or the doctors who were standing in for the state, I'm afraid doctors, they're a real bad smell these days, aren't they? I mean, they're as bad as the state. The state has tried to become doctors and the doctors have tried to become the state. You'll watch Carleen's live now. We'll get you to tell us about that in a minute. I just wanted to make the point that there's going to be a mediation and I think they were, the judge was wanting to know today how they got on. So I'd given them a couple of days to mediate this and if they could have come to some arrangement and the only arrangement that, of course, would satisfy the parents is that the child receives unvaccinated blood. And so I haven't heard anything, but it's still, you know, there's still time to get that agreement done. And then the judge wants to see everybody back on Tuesday. Now, the commentators seem to believe, because I heard Michael Law saying this morning on the platform, oh, well, you know, it'll be, it'll be, you know, the mediation and of course the court will come down on the side of the, on the doctors, you know, people with common sense and everything. And he was interviewing, I was listening to it because he was interviewing my daughter's friend, Ellie, and, what's her second name, and the other one, and Deeks, the lawyer. Clare, yeah. And I remember her as Alia Bennett. Oh, Alia, yeah. Yeah. At least she was blunt. I think she calls herself now. But she was Alia Bennett when she lived on Waiheke. Was a kid, you know, 14-year-old, 15-year-old with my daughter. We're in the same class. They were friends, still friends. And, you know, their lives are going ahead, went ahead. They've got, I don't know about Alia, but Alex has got three children now. Oh, not Alex, my daughter's got three children now. And my daughter was telling me that when I came back this afternoon, she just heard that a contemporary of her son, who's 13, this boy was 14, died of a heart attack during the week. Oh, my goodness. Just how these people can still be blind to this is unbelievable. Unbelievable. I mean, I recall that a friend of mine, when I was first working in Auckland, he was on a building site, and he was only 17, working in the school, not the school holidays, because he was going to go to university, because it was last year of school. 17, working on a building site, killed in an accident. It was just the most devastating thing for a young person. And young people are expected to normalise this carnage. It just makes me so furious. So we've got to make sure that we expose this through court cases. And we also have got a very important role in the union to make sure the Health and Safety at Work Act is observed. Now, that's the most important thing about this union. It's the central point of it. So please, please, anybody who knows anyone in work, even if they've had jabs and they don't want any more war, they're starting to see family members hurt and dying, please, please tell them to join the union, because we can do something about it. Absolutely can do something about it in the workplace, right? Yeah. Because if you're in the workplace and you're told, and you're a member of the union, we'll be there so damn quick. Right? So quick. Yeah. So and then, of course, once we get our membership built up and we get good numbers of people in the union in workplaces, we can make work stop. All work stop, because we can have, you know, we can be quite strategic and get people who you can make, you know, can have stop work, you're not going to have to be, you're not going to get sacked. They can't sack you for health and safety, raising these health and safety things. And it's not only going to be that, you know, it's going to be bullying reports about this before. Okay? So people, please get in touch with everybody you know, talk about the union whenever you can. It's certainly some of the things that I have been able to, that I have learned myself as a lawyer, is the importance of the individual. I was talking on Monday about the individual is the focus of not only the Health Act, but the Bill of Rights Act as well. Right? So the state can't do anything to you, actually, if you know your rights. Now, the unions were in a great position, of course. They should have known this. They should have, but they just became soft and they became pawns of governments. I say governments, not just the Labour government. They played, they held hands with the national government as well. Absolutely. Yeah, because I mean, I was looking back on whenever they have a new judge in the employment court, the union, you know, head of the union, head of CTU gets invited along and that's whether it's a national government or a Labour government. Oh, and by the way, the thing about trying to rush through the three waters, right, not just rush it through, but make it entrenched legislation, so it would make it difficult for a future government to undo it, was Green Party, Eugenie Sage. Right? Now, Eugenie Sage used to be the Minister of Conservation. Yeah. And who's all the conservation land going to get handed over to? Yeah. Okay. So I'm just sort of doing a bit of a rah-rah. I haven't got any particular news for you, but let's hear from you guys. What's people, what are people saying in the chat? Who wants to, if you want to say something, put your hand up perhaps and then we'll. Oh, yes. Tell us, Lynette, tell us about Karlene. Is Lynette back in there? Yep, she is. Yep. Yeah. Hi, guys. Hi, Lynette. I thought I'd actually sent it to you, Emma. I was just checking it out. I've watched. Yeah, I haven't had a lot of time today, but I've watched some of it. Did you watch the one with the guy that joined in from Scotland? No, I didn't send it to you. I'm just checking it now, but I'm having problems getting it into my phone. No, the bit I watched was where Karlene was at the organ harvesting. Yeah, yeah. But the previous one, and I don't know what, probably because I was too busy bloody crying, actually. That was with, I mean, in June 2021, we went to Aotea Square for our first protest, right? And that was when there was this guy there from the far north, and he spoke, and he was basically accused Starship Hospital of killing his little boy. And it was, and I mean, let's put it this way. It was absolutely brilliant. I'm going to try and find it, and I'm going to send it to you, because it's just, it was too sad for me to watch, because he was basically screaming out yesterday, and I know these stupid people are going to go into today with that stupid judge. I mean, he's a, you know what? Anyway, and this dad had lost his little boy to the same way as Will's going to go, and he's a fully, I mean, he's a fully trained paramedic. He knew he could see in Will's eyes, because what he's talking about, they are Aotea, and Liz, you'll know a little about this, how it goes into one and out the other, then it drains into the lungs and that. And he basically was saying, if this operation is not done by Tuesday, he's basically saying this is the dad of this little boy that they already have killed. He's basically saying he's not going to survive. And they're going to use this whole thing and make it look like propaganda throughout the whole damn world that this mother wouldn't accept it because of the unvaccinated blood. So I've been looking all day today, because I'm now in Oamaru, and I haven't been online much, but this guy, and I know you, David, are a paramedic, you'll understand what I'm saying here. I'm actually also a trained nurse, and it's just like, I understand how the heart works. So basically, this little Will is going to basically drown with this bloody oxygen not getting pumped through his heart. And they're just, I tell you, but they're going to use it for the biggest propaganda load of bullshit throughout this world and blame that beautiful mum. And I'm so over it. They can't get it done privately or anything like that? Well, people suggested that, but this little boy cannot actually, and yesterday on the page, people were actually saying, well, don't donate money. But the little boy, as you know, is not actually well enough, really. I mean, the hospital even tried stopping her going to that ridiculous court load of shit and saying she had to stay there. If you actually listen to Liz Gunn and Sue Gray, and listen to what the mum said, she said, they told me I couldn't go out. And that's what it's going to do. I'm telling you now. And this dad, who's got dreadlocks and looks like a hippie and every damn thing else, but because of that, and he's so qualified in his profession, but because he doesn't look like what we're meant to look like, you know, what are we meant to look like? You know, just, you just, I tell you, if that little boy dies, you've watched the bullshit. Yeah. Well, Lynette, I was at the court. I know. He didn't, he didn't, to me, you know, he didn't. Look sick, yeah. Well, no, he's a lot smaller than his brother. He hadn't been putting on weight, but with the feeding the, you know, through the nose feeding, and he's still breastfed as well, and he's getting extra supplements. The thing is that a lot of their stuff is about, you know, if we don't do it immediately, he's going to die. Well, he's not going to die immediately. I hope not. No, he's not. And the thing is that it kind of, to a certain extent, if it's played, it's not a game, but if it's, if it's a gut strike, it will, the courts will be forced, because if, if on Tuesday, say there was a hearing and they came down on the doctor's side, right? That is not the end of it. That's only the high court. There are two more courts above it. It's a baby's life, Liz. Yeah, I know, I know, I know, but the thing is, the thing is, the thing is that she can't just say, well, you know, I'll go and get it done somewhere else. There's nowhere else. And she needs, she needs that blood processed, etc. It's not, it's not so easy. And, and don't, don't despair. You know, don't despair. I mean, that, that father who, who lost his son to this, of course, he's, he's highly, you know, he's highly upset, etc. Of course he is. They did the same thing to him. Yeah, yeah. You know, we, we all know we need oxygen in the blood to keep us, you know, like, the heart goes in, one goes out. The little boy, the little boy isn't on oxygen. You know, he's not on oxygen. He's breathing fine on his own. Okay, so what's that thing in his nose? Feeding tube. That thing in his nose is for feeding. It's feeding, yes. Yeah, that's the feeding tube, yeah. So they can give him extra and he doesn't need to look at it. He's, he's just not thriving. You know, the, the children, there, there is failure to thrive in a lot of conditions. But the thing is, what they try, why the doctors are dramatizing it, if you like, is because they want their way and they're trying to railroad the process. Well, the, the judge, the judge wasn't railroaded. The judge wasn't railroaded. Good. And, you know, the thing is that they expected to be able to ham dunk that day. Now, now Sue and, and, and Kirsten, they had all of their, they had all of their stuff ready to go, had all of their submissions. So they were ready as well. But then the judge said, no, I can't hear anything till five, till Tuesday. So, so although the other side didn't like it, it was the best thing to do. And they've gone for mediation and I hope that, you know, mediation, hope and pray. But if it doesn't, they can't, I mean, they can't go ahead and allow it. They've got to appeal it. Now, I was just going to say, when, when, what's his name, Michael Laws was, was saying this morning on his show and he was interviewing these two women and he said, one of them was Claire Deeks. And he said, well, you know, what, what happens when, because he's sort of thinking of the judge is going to do that. And I'm not so sure the judge is going to do it, actually. What? I'm not so sure the judge is going to allow it. Because if the judge doesn't allow it, then they'll have to do the operation using the unvaccinated. But what they're, what they're after at the moment is getting guardianship. Right. It's a big deal. Now, the thing is, the thing is with guardianship, and this is my view of it, guardianship is instead of the parents, but the only people that should be granted, there should only be people granted. Firstly, number one, the cases involve, well, there's three sorts of cases, I suppose. There's cases that involve people who have guardianship taken, have their children made wards because they've neglected or abused their children. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. However, and this is, this is the other thing that we've got to realize is that you've got to prove that they've done it in the first place, for a start. And that's not been happening. That's not been happening. And this is kind of going to be a bit of an opportunity to make these points, right. These are my points. First, you've got to prove that the child has been abused or neglected. They're trying to say neglected, right, to a certain extent. That probably would be their line. However, the state itself should not be able to take guardianship because the state is an incorporeal, which means they have no body, which means they are not people. Okay. Even this union is not a body. Right. We haven't got a body. We've just got a name. Same with the state. Same with the government. Same with OT. Same with Starship. If you get guardianship, the rule should be that you take over full care of that child. You take them home. You've got a spare room, or you pay for all of their hospital, and you act as parents to them. That should be the rule, and that should be the argument. Look at the little boy that they just murdered, I mean, last year, and that court case, hearing that come out today. That's the insanity. I know it's insanity. I know it is. I know it is. But people have been thinking about these things, Lynette. You know, what's happened over the last two years, and all of the people have talked about being sovereign and everything. What it actually means is we have the power against the state. But unless we argue it in the court that way, then they will continue on with this. But I feel that things will actually turn out okay. I was in the courtroom. I had a feeling that the judge was listening carefully. The only reason that the other side supposedly had for not doing it, because the good point that Sue Grave made was, and it was the main point of it as far as I was concerned, was that the parents are not far from neglecting the child or not wanting it done, not wanting it done at all. They just want better care than what the state is willing to provide. And the only reason, and it's not a reason, it's quite unreasonable if you look at it in legal terms, that the doctors won't do it is because they don't believe there's any danger, and they think that the parents are what they call conspiracy theorists. What the hell sort of argument is that to take to a court? And I think that the judge, you know, I don't think all of the judges are quite as stupid. Really? Right, no. And you've got to remember, Lynette, that a lot of people, whether they're judges or whether they're anybody else, I'm sorry, but there's a lot of people whose family members are dying. And they already know, they already must know that the vaccination didn't stop transmission. It's been proven for God's sake. It's in the Pfizer documents. But they knew about it, they knew about it in 2021. They knew about it in 2017. That was supposed to be the evidence of Dr Thornton, that the Pfizer hadn't done any testing. So how could they know anything about transmission? And as soon as they started to inject people with it, and they still kept getting COVID, well that was it. There we are, there was the proof. There was the proof that was needed. And all this rubbish about breakthrough, breakthrough, isn't it? In something that stopped transmission, don't get breakthrough. But everybody got breakthrough. So it was obviously a load of rubbish, wasn't it? And now we've got that ridiculous Joe Biden, whatever his name is, sitting there saying that, oh, cancers are going to reappear. Well, hello. Here's an interesting thing about what Joe Biden is, what the Biden administration is doing. And it just sort of hit me like a cannon the other day. Because I listen to lawyers in the States, one in particular talking about it. And he was talking about them wanting, there were 12 Democrats across the floor of the House, the Congress. And the Republicans haven't even taken over the House yet. But they crossed the floor because they said, we want the emergency to be ended. And, oh no, it wasn't on the American one, it was two women. One is an American and one is English. And they were talking about, you know, what's going to happen if, once the state of emergency goes. And the American one said, oh, well, you know, they won't be able to, they won't be able to sell their stuff anymore because it's only got emergency. And if it's no emergency, they can't sell it. So the thing is, we haven't had an emergency law in place since the 8th of June 2020. Thank you. It's got to be a bloody good big wake up in this country. And bloody Trudeau's been pulled out on it now too. What's been pulled out on it? He's been caught out, Trudeau's been caught out in line. He used that emergency power too. I mean, is that emergency power still in this goddamn sake and country? No, no, no. It finished on the 8th of June. So it's finished. Yes. 2020 Lynette, not 2022. 2020. I'm still watching people in Akaroa walk around in the street with masks on. For God's sake. I know. They're insane. I just want to slap them all, man. Yeah, well, Carrie, I'm, and you guys are all going to find out about it. Carrie's saying the COVID Act is what they are making these actions under. Yeah. Now, the thing is that nobody has done a judicial review on the Act or the Order. I'm doing one. Good. I'm doing one. And you guys will be part of it because, you know, it really helps me to talk to you, find out what's going on out there. Not that the union's going to be neglected. We're going to continue on, of course, and do what we can there. But, yeah, I'm going to take a judicial review of it. Well, I'm going to apply to. Can you outline for us lay people of what that does? The judicial review puts the question to the court, was it lawful for them, one, to take action under the Act? You can make an Act, but if you don't take action under it, well, you know, sort of fail-a-vie to a certain extent. But before we start, and I'd put the date probably at the end of June, right, would be the last date probably, would be the date that I'd be looking at. When the emergency thing ran out on the 8th of June 2020, that's where I'd take it from. I'd be asking the question, was the vaccination order legal? Because Section 11 of the 2020 Act seems to say it isn't. I'd say that in terms of making a lot of the stuff they did with the lockdowns, well, pretty much the whole Act was wrong because it was aimed at groups. And the Act that they use and continue to use, because that Act hasn't been repealed, is the Health Act 1956. Now, the Health Act 1956, as I've been saying, is all about individuals. There's nothing in it about groups. The State cannot use that sort of law and say it's aimed at groups. And also, it's quite obvious when you look at Section 92i that it was always forbidden, using that Act as your backup, to have compulsory treatment. Now, under compulsory treatment, there's also the masking and also the testing. Because they were all invasive. Now, there can be testing, but according to the cases, the only one that you can get without consent is the hospital testing. You might actually even have to argue in court about a hospital test, but a breath test is pretty much the only thing that you can get people to do without getting your informed consent. That's why there's been so many cases about people having to give DNA or blood when they drink driving or something. But you've got to remember that all of us were innocent. None of us had done anything. None of us were even sick. And the Health Act, that they actually generated the Civil Defence emergency through, is all aimed at individuals, as I say. If it's anything to do with people, it's only individuals. It never was groups of people. It's all unlawful. It's all completely unlawful. And basically, a judicial review is getting answers to those questions. If you read a couple of the cases that the judicial review has been taken on, they were all about, as I say, I think the workers' ones would have succeeded better in the employment court. And then the other ones were mostly about workers, but there were ones about rollouts and stuff like that. But they're all sort of swirling around the edges. None of them are actually saying, well, for a start. Because remember, there was the first one that they had when they said, well, I think they did the first lockdown starting the 10th, I think. And that's when they put it on the schedule as a contagious disease. But they didn't do the first, what was it, the first emergency order wasn't out until the 14th, and this was March. And then they didn't actually get the 2020 Act signed off by, you know, it didn't come into force until May, because that was when it got the Governor-General's signature. And in that first case, they kind of brushed it aside because it was, you know, it has to be done. It was an emergency. But if it's an emergency, it had to go through the Health Act. And if it had to go through the Health Act, then the rules under the Health Act applied. And when they then finally put an Act together, the Act 2020 Act, it breached the Health Act. So it's that the Act is ultraviolet rays, the Health Act. The COVID-19 order is ultraviolet rays, the Act, even if they said, oh, well, the Act is, you know, we thought, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think as soon as it became clear, you know, I mean, those things about lockdowns, et cetera. But I think, I think pretty much as soon as they started to talk about vaccines and started to say to bosses, you can't, you know, you've got to have these affected workers and all of that, that was all bull. That wasn't lawful. When you look at that, what it's, what they're counting on is Section 34 in the 2020 Act. That says that they are free of liability for any of their actions. But when you under Section, I think it's 129 of the Health Act. But when you look at Section 129 of the Health Act, they're free, they can do anything, even if they make a mistake and all of that. Except if it's done carelessly, which is all of that vaccine stuff was, or in bad faith. Now, you know, I think there's enough evidence that they knew all along, but that's why they swapped over and put this new Act together, because the Health Act itself was exactly, you know, prepared for an epidemic or a pandemic or whatever. It's got everything in it. It's got everything in it, except you're not allowed to use compulsion. You're not allowed to, you know, there's all sorts of protections and it's all aimed at the individual. And now I think that that point of it's all clearly individual people who have proven disease. It's not, no way is the Health Act aimed at healthy people. And yet, that is the Health Act is what they're using as their backup. Now, they did all of this. They must have known the law, I won't say the lawmakers, it's the drafts people, right? The Office of the Prime Minister has this division called Parliamentary Council. What these people do is they draft the laws. Now, you can tell how close these people are to the Prime Minister, because she was asked a question about three waters and wasn't it five waters and that, and she said, oh, no, no, it's not. But I'll ask the drafters, and I've often said she doesn't know anything about law. You know, that's not her fault. But the full New Zealanders, and not so much the everyday person, but the full lawyers of this country who listen to that twerp every day on TV, because they must have, they can't have been brainwashed any other way. So, the 19th of March, 2020. Yeah, Janice is saying, UK announced on the 19th of March that COVID was no longer considered a high consequence six days before we had it announced as an emergency pandemic. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, Alicia says the courts can't get away from having to hear the psychological aspects now coming forward. It's in every single case, bullying and harassment under the Health and Safety at Work Act. Yes, and coercion under the Health and Safety at Work Act, Alicia. There was no other way they could get people to do it. And the only way they're getting away with all the injuries is that they're manufacturing the evidence around that, like the change in the coroners and all that stuff. Yes, yes, yes. I just don't know how we're going to have enough prisons, really, for them. No, well, we don't want them to be in there long, do they? No. I mean, our job as a union is to make sure the workplace is safe for you guys. So, you can be safe, and if you're safe in the workplace, you're safe everywhere, because if they have to go by what the workers say, then they will have to back down. Okay, anybody got anything they want to say? Gitmo has been expanded. I think Gitmo is far too salubrious. I think the Auckland Islands. I'm still keen on the Auckland Islands. Yeah, yeah, we could do like a celebrity Treasure Island without the treasure. Oh, funny thing you should mention, Treasure. I think it was on the last Zoom I did. Somebody said, how come is it that you're the only one, Liz, that's talking about this? And I was sort of strudging and saying, well, you know, they're not looking hard enough. But it's kind of like, what a real systematic problem is, is the law. It is hugely overblown. Far, far too much of it, when a simple reason, like a lot of, and you'll see it most simply when you look at the purpose of an Act. And they always say, read the purpose of the Act. Right. The Health Act to protect public health. Public health. Okay. Well, what do they do? They bring out this Act that's what to do to stop the spread of COVID. That's what it's supposed to do. And of course, then they come up with a vaccine that they say, this is the single source of truth. This is the way to stop it. It was nothing but a marketing campaign for that bloody Pfizer vaccine. It was an Act of Parliament that was a marketing campaign. Maybe that's how I should start my judicial review off. Yeah. But yeah, why because it's kind of like, well, I've got some guidance, let's say that. But it is like having been presented with a haystack and saying, right, find a needle. It's really quite difficult. We'll only do it for huge donations. What, Winston Peter, take a judicial review. People have got too much. This is why our union is never, hopefully ever, well, it won't be because that's the rule of it. There'll be no politicians in our union. If you want to go there, go and do it. And I guess people think, well, that's the only way to do it, but they don't realise their power. They don't realise how each one of us has so much power because we've all got the power to bring a case. Yeah, we've all got the power to bring a case. And if we bring the cases ourselves, don't use lawyers. Yeah. Because nobody can stop you taking cases. I mean, they're trying real hard to stop Erica at the moment. Are they? Oh, yeah, they try and strike out. Tell us about it, Erica. How are you getting on? She was on before, eh? Yeah, she's here. Yeah, I'm here. Yeah, strike out. I went through some old emails and there's one from July going. I hope this is the last amended claim because it's going to do an awful lot for costs. Now I'm thinking, well, you don't work for me, so. Exactly. Why should I care? What's the cost of justice, lady? Yep. What is the cost? Are you working for the private sector? We'll be making some strong submissions on costs, don't you worry. Getting them off the other side, eh, Erica? Yes, they are. I think all they care about is how many hours they can bill. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. They don't really care about anything else other than billing. And they're very good at hurling out the insults. Oh, that's interesting. Sorry, Erica, Janice is just saying they are now using prison barges. Get Moa's full. Did you guys talk about how Mr Phillips got... No, tell us about what's happening with Mr Phillips. So he's been sentenced. He's got three and a half years, I believe, and they said that it's sabotage, and he caused a million dollars worth of damage, but they won't say what kind of damage, and it just says to Transpower. So they're not giving all the details. We can only speculate. I mean, Transpower do. The network, internet, I'm not sure what else. So it'll be a written-up judgement, surely. Yes, but they're suppressing the details of what it was that he attacked, the damage. Apparently it's a million dollars. I mean, you know, someone could set fire to a house and that's a million dollars damage, isn't it? Yeah, well, that's right. Exactly. He stood up in court, I think it was, and said that he did not want to plead guilty, and that he was coerced into pleading guilty. Yeah, that's on the record somewhere. And also they got talking about that case where those people sabotaged the spy. Was it the spy? Yes, yes, yes, that was Waihopu. All the charges were dropped? Yes, you know why? They were mates of the Labour Party. One of them was a priest, right, and he got sent up to the islands to put them out of the limelight. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. But I think the better way is to, you know, fight them. Fight them with your mind. And Martha Phillip remains on the Tennis Club committee. No resignation there. Yeah, funny that. Which is, yes, very interesting. The report about him says that he did, maybe she made a comment saying, you know, he kind of lost his way, but I was thinking back in December, there was no outlet for people who weren't happy. You know, if you rang the Human Rights Commission, you've got a kind of sleeping spell answering machine, and they weren't listening to any complaints. There was no one listening. So I'm sure a lot of people chose outlets like that that weren't necessarily the correct ones. Well, not enough, obviously. It's still standing. No, but I remember, actually, back in 2020, when there was talk about, you know, the 5G and what it was doing to people, because this was before, even before the vaxxers were on the scene. And now, you know, there's talk about, well, when they turn the full power of them on, watch out, people. But my comment was, look, we're going to, you know, they're all linked to the network that we all need. And so it's not a good idea. Right. But, I mean, at that stage, you know, I wouldn't have known about what they had intended with all of this metal stuff that they're injecting into people. But, yeah, maybe he knew that. But who did he have as his lawyer in the end? Oh, I don't know that, actually. Yeah, but also, did he get time served? Because he's been there a year. Yeah, yeah. So, was it four years and the time off for time served, or what? No, three years and then the time off. Three years and something, I forget how many months, and then the time he's already had will come off that. Oh, it'll come off that, yeah. I used an example of a Canadian case, which I think was four years. Yay, Canada, not. I don't know why they're using Canada as an example. I guess it's better than the US. Oh, I think, you know, that justice is coming, and it was possibly coming for him as well, you know, or Mr Philip as well. Because, you know, when their wrongdoing is exposed, which will include, you know, what they have in mind, or what they had in mind, we might know, you never know, there might be a whistleblower in that we come across in the next few weeks that knows something about what they had in mind for, and what they have in mind for these towers. Never know. All sorts of people got, what would you call, coerced and chucked out of their jobs, because you didn't want anybody working for Spark who actually wouldn't hate to jab, right? But also knew, perhaps, about what these towers, etc., and the tracking, etc., that was involved, you know? Maybe one of our union members might tell us something very soon. Who knows? Might be a nice Christmas present. It's about time some of these people that were, you know, in the hospitals need to wake up. Need to come forward, because they can. With us, you know, that's another function of the union, I believe, that we can say under the new Whistleblowing Act that they could whistleblow to us, because they won't get any joy from their bosses. Okay, so we might have an early night. Yep. Down for time. 20 past 8? Yeah, it's almost midnight anyway. Yeah, 23 past. Yep. So anybody got anything else desperate they want to say, or not desperate, or funny, or newsy, or? Oh, the Prime Minister got absolutely rubbished at field days. Yeah, I saw that. Oh, it's going to be a recession next year. Oh, and it just suddenly happened. I don't know how that happened. Yeah, there is a really good stone called Shungite that the Russians especially have used a lot. It deflects a lot of the electromagnetic stuff. The Shungite comes from Finland, and it's the only place in the world that it's found, and they think it was some rock from outer space in the far distant past. If you believe that, eh? Thank you. Military surrounding Australia waiting for the go to make mass arrests. Well, yeah, we hope so, Janice. I've seen that report. Yeah, and China looks ready to pop. That really does look seriously like they're going to have their, what do you call it, the guy who ordered the Tiananmen Square massacre. He died aged 96. Multiple organ failure. He was also the kingpin in the CCP. Yeah, he was head of the CCP, but he was also the kingpin in ordering the organ harvesting of, what are they called, Faolong? That group of people have a religious belief of some kind, spiritual belief of some kind, and yeah, just some terrible, terrible, terrible things that he did. I think they had 100 million people, and he wanted them all dead within three months. He was super, you know, I think probably, you know, they come from Genghis Khan, a lot of those people. Yeah, they've got a bad line. Faolong gong. Thanks, Carrie. Yeah, well, let's hope we see them all go down the line pretty soon. We need a wind-down dinner. Yeah, it sounds like a good idea. A wind-down dinner, we do need. Can you name the venue? We'll be there. I think Alicia's got one in Auckland. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, yeah, what did everyone think? Oh, yeah, they died suddenly. It was pretty sad. Yeah, it was pretty sad. But, I mean, the thing is that it was horrific, but I think that, really, when we know people, or when we hear of young ones, like I was just saying, you know, my daughter told me. Yeah. That's really sad. That's really sad, because that really brings it home to us, and, you know, we've got our own grandchildren of the same age, and, oh, thank God. We've got good friends. We're all alive. We'd better arrange something soon, Alicia. Yeah, yeah, we should do it, eh? You'll arrange it, Alicia, and we'll come. The other thing is that they're good friends, but they're business partners for a long, long time, and the hotel is a heritage building, so it used to be the old Union Hall. Oh, let's go. Can you ask them? Absolutely. I'm there every week, so I've been giving them a heads up for a while. Even New Year's Eve or something, that would be cool. Yeah, how many Aucklanders have we got on? Quite a few, hopefully, yeah. I think Simon is. People might travel. Yeah, if people travel, we could look for something for accommodation as well at the hotel. Waikato's not so far away. Which part of Waikato, Priscilla? Huntly. Oh, come on! Yay! Home town girl. Yeah. Okay, guys. Pukekohe, cool, cool, cool, cool. Okay, great. Okay, night-night for now. Fantastic, yeah. Bye, thank you. Thanks, everyone. Yeah, proud on us. We'll see you. Tauranga, we won't turn you away. Yeah. See you later, Facebook. Okay. Bye. See you. Good night. See you, everyone. Have a good weekend. You too.
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