EP. 39 DEJANDO IR UN VIAJE HACIA EL PERDON

Pues andamos muy bien Lupita aquí, mira ahora sí nos tocó grabar de nochecita, la gente no se dará cuenta menos que se lo digamos, pero ahora nos tocó de noche amiga. No, pero pues yo ya me eché una siestita en el día, si es de que ya cargué pila para echar guerra cambió el podcast. Claro que sí. Y hay que mencionar que, sí, hay que mencionar que no siempre significa perdonar a terceras personas, sino también en ocasiones a nosotros mismos. Claro que sí. Claro que sí, de esas fallas, de esos errores que cometemos porque todos lo hacemos, es importante que podamos liberar, liberar toda esa carga emocional de sentir culpabilidad, perdonarnos y avanzar y seguir adelante y de allí pues ya llevamos la carga más ligera y estamos listos también para pues claro entender que las otras personas igualmente se equivocan y de verdad de todo corazón aceptar esa disculpa si es que te la llegan a pedir, aunque déjame decirte Lupita que no en todas las ocasiones va a ser así, que te pidan una disculpa, tú debes de perdonar a esa persona desde tu corazón, desde la mayor honestidad, aunque esa persona ni siquiera se haya disculpado, es de la forma que nos liberaremos de esa carga emocional tan negativa y tan pesada, pero más adelante vamos a entrar más en detalle. No sé qué te parezca si comenzamos dando la definición de qué es el perdón. Sí, bueno pues el perdón no significa olvidar ni justificar el daño infligido por otros, más bien es un proceso de liberación personal, un regalo que nos hacemos a nosotros mismos, es soltar la carga emocional que llevamos y permitirnos avanzar hacia un estado de paz interior. Sí. Cuando perdonamos. Sí, claro que sí, desde el corazón, desde la sinceridad. Oye, pero me gustó la parte que menciona a la persona que se ha perdonado, que se ha perdonado, que se ha perdonado, que se ha perdonado, que se ha perdonado, que se ha perdonado, que se ha perdonado, que se ha perdonado, que se ha perdonado. Desde el corazón, desde la sinceridad. Oye, pero me gustó la parte que menciona que el perdón no significa olvidar ni justificar el daño infligido por otros. Esto responde a la pregunta que seguramente por ahí pueden llegar a ser muchas personas y qué pasa cuando trabajo en perdonar desde el fondo de mi corazón a esa persona, pero ya no quiero a esa persona en mi vida por cuidarme a mí misma, por mi salud mental, por mi salud emocional, porque esta persona a lo mejor puede haber pedido disculpas o pudo no haberlo hecho, pero qué pasa si la confianza ya no es la misma o lo que haya sucedido en ese caso. Entonces, allí se responde esa pregunta. Es un regalo que nos hacemos a nosotros mismos, sin embargo, no significa que te tienes que aguantar y seguir teniendo a esas personas en tu vida. Si sientes que no puedes tener de regreso a esa persona en tu vida, sea pareja, sea amistad, sean relaciones con personas de tu trabajo, lo que sea, es bien válido decir sabes que ya te perdoné desde mi corazón, ya lo suelto, no tengo rencor, no te deseo el mal, no nada de eso, pero de verdad, ya no creo que puedas formar parte de mi círculo de personas cercanas. Un familiar. Yo digo que, pero no te quiero cercas de mi vida. No, claro que no, esto cuando es los hijos o padres y demás, claro que no es como que pues ya hay arreglarlas como pasa, los hijos no, pues obviamente cuando es un daño muy grande, aunque de verdad, no sé, no me pasa por la cabeza llegar a pensar que con los hijos, pero sí se dan los casos, ¿verdad?, que pueda pasar a ese grado tan grande, pero pues yo estoy segura que si es algo que fue de verdad algo que te hirió bastante, que te dañó tanto, ahí es cuando se recurre a la ayuda de los profesionales para poder trabajar esas emociones de la forma correcta y canalizarlas, pero sin embargo, también déjame decirte que he escuchado muchas ocasiones que aunque sea familia, puedes optar por sí, hablarle, saludarle o lo que tú quieras, pero ya no es la misma cercanía cuando esa persona te hiere, y esto se ve en casos hasta con los padres también, cuando la relación es hiriente, porque hay veces que nosotras, pues bueno, ¿qué te cuento, verdad?, si tú ya estás bien entrenada con lo que es la certificación que tomamos con el doctor Erasmo Rocha, que nos habla de las personas, estamos, que pues hay veces que esas personas pues sí, se encuentran precisamente ahí, entre las personas más cercanas a nosotros, que son personas que están dañadas y que no lo hacen a propósito, es que simplemente son personas que aún así no pueden con su propia vida por tanto daño que han pasado, que han vivido, entonces pues esto va a incluir a la familia también. Claro que sí. Sí, por aquí tenemos preparado lo que es el proceso del perdón, y pues es que no es como uno y dos, ¿no? Tenemos ocho pasos a seguir que pueden contribuir en este proceso del perdón. Y bueno, pues dando el inicio con el número uno, es el reconocimiento del dolor. Se lleva a cabo, como ves, cuando es un duelo, ¿no?, que es un proceso, acá tiene también su parte. Y es que la primera etapa implica reconocer y aceptar el dolor, la ira, el resentimiento u otras emociones negativas que se pudieron haber experimentado debido a una herida o injusticia. Entonces ese es el primer paso, reconocer el dolor. Bueno, pues ya hemos terminado el primer paso, reconocer y aceptar el dolor. Bueno, pues ya hemos terminado el primer paso, reconocer y aceptar el dolor. Bueno, pues ya hemos terminado el primer paso, reconocer y aceptar el dolor. Bueno, pues ya hemos terminado el primer paso, reconocer y aceptar el dolor. 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Esto es una decisión basada en, pues ahora sí que ya mirar un poquito más a fondo qué tan fuerte fue esto que sucedió, si hubo daños, que a lo mejor ya la conversación ya está como dicen extra, que ya no es bienvenida, o si es algo que de verdad ni fue para tanto y que ya cuando van pasando los días empiezas a analizar y dices, oye, pero no fue para tanto, y ya se inicia esa conversación. Entonces esto es totalmente opcional y esto es de acuerdo a tu decisión. Lo que tú vas a decidir, porque no es como que forzarnos, porque incluso de repente podemos tener a lo mejor la plática con alguien y nos puede decir, oye, ¿por qué no le contactas, por qué no hablas con esa persona? Pero de verdad que esta decisión no debe de estar influenciada por nadie más que por sí mismo, de decir cómo te sientes, te gustaría hablar una comunicación para ver si se puede llegar como a un perdón mutuo, a lo mejor también donde no solamente una persona fue la que hirió, sino ambas. 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