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The speaker went on a trip to Palm Springs with their family, where they noticed a lot of interesting architecture and gates. They also talked about being pretentious about architecture but not being able to afford it. They then mentioned a conversation with an 84-year-old woman named Harriet they met on a flight, who shared various interesting and sometimes offensive stories about her life. The speaker found the conversation entertaining and learned a lot about Harriet's experiences. And we're good, and we're off. Oh my gosh, it's been a few weeks. I went to Palm Springs, and that was really fun. Very gay, but I was with my family. We rented this house that was... Yeah! I'm the gayest of the family. Actually, yeah, that's true, that's true. But there was a lot of queer representation there, which I think was really good for some of the members of my family to get exposure to. So we did that, and then same old, same old. Just working, doing architecture stuff. I just took myself on one, like a lot of walks. But more than anything, that place was like the city of gates. There are so many fucking gates. Like, all the architecture is hidden behind tall laurel bushes. And... Yeah. I guess I couldn't look at the houses. I could only every once in a while see an eave or a roof detail. So I was enamored, actually, with a lot of the gates. And appalled. Yeah, gay-girly, I'm appalled by a lot of them as well. There are some horrible choices out there. It's, yeah. Okay. But I, the weird thing about architecture, and being an architect, is like, I'm so pretentious, but I would never even be able to afford any, any of what I'm looking at. No matter what. I guess it's just a lot of taste, no money. Which is also pretentious. Oh, yeah. Yeah, money can't buy you class. Oh. Yeah. But, I'm good. How are you? Oh. Amazing. Oh, my God. I read a lot of fantasy books, so this is, like, I love this for you. I could see it. Yeah. Yeah, that'll give you a big head. Whoa. If, how did TikTok know, or did you look up on TikTok what happened? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, do you, do you, like, make your, like, lists and stuff on, like, your store list and stuff on your phone? Yeah. Yeah, nearby. And you hope either Ryan or your phone takes care of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, yes. I mean, I would believe it if resurrected Steve Jobs came right to your door and was, like, listen, it's you. Listen, it's you. You're, well, you got it, like, on the eclipse day, right? Whoa. Yeah. Well, I could see you being, like, the head of a matriarch, like, a matriarchal village society. I could see that. No. Yeah. It's, like, it's forced upon you to be this great. A white witch or red. What's the difference between the two? I have to scoot. I'm so sorry. I have to go. I have to go. Yeah. Yeah, new makeup tutorial. Oh, my God. I would love it if you did an unboxing video and we podcasted it and we didn't film it and it was just for me. It was you unboxing thing. Yeah, an ASMR. I could do unboxing things for my Nuuly orders. Okay. So true. See, this is why you're the leader. Yeah. Cool. Okay, do you want to hear some super cold gossip? Okay, so, flying to Palm Springs, I am not, like, I try not to let anyone see my super kind face. Like, I have a face that people will talk to, unfortunately, and I think, yeah, I think it's because I, I don't know, I think it's because I'm short and maybe I look scared because I'm in the city and I'm from a small town. Yeah. I've been described as a baby bird and I, I'm like, well, I don't like birds, so I don't love that, but I think at an airport, I am a baby bird in the airport. Like, yeah, just trying to get out of there. So, I wore, like, these big headphones. I usually wear a baseball cap so that my eyes don't get super dried out from the AC in the, yeah, and I was wearing a ton of layers because I never know if I'm going to be wildly hot or freezing cold on airplanes. So, it was kind of like a, a don't talk to me situation. There were so many layers, like, my eyes were covered, blah, blah, blah, and that just wasn't an option for the person who was sitting next to me. She was going to talk and, oh, I, at first, was like, oh, Jesus, and the person on the edge, so I was the window and then the talker was in the middle and then this very sweet person from Portland, Oregon, was on the aisle and I was like, oh, that poor woman because I'm not going to engage. Well, normally I would hate this, and I did, like, kind of in and out I hated this, but she was saying the craziest stuff. This woman was 84. She used to live in, and we haven't even taken off yet, and through my headphones, I was hearing her tell the person next to me that she was going back to Palm Springs after five years because she moved from Palm Springs to Walla Walla, Washington because she was found on Ancestry.com by her late son's ex-wife and the ex-wife found her and told her that she had a grandson at 79 years old or whatever. Yeah, yeah, but apparently she, and she never got into this, which, you know, some people, maybe she's making it up. I don't know. If she's making it up, she's a great storyteller, but, yeah, and she wouldn't let me get a word in or the Portland, Oregon person, so, like, we really had no choice. It was like sitting next to a podcast that you could sometimes engage with, but, anyway, so she, the ex-wife, came down once she found, okay, so, no, wait, the grandson did Ancestry.com, and that's how they found, her name is, yeah. He's 28, I believe. She gave me her card. It's just a calling card. Harriet, yeah, Harriet E. Link, if you're listening, I enjoyed sitting next to you, but I wasn't thrilled at first, but you melted my heart. But, like, it was two and a half hours, and it was nonstop. This woman has lived a wild life. She was in a throuple, basically, in the Navy, but she didn't know that, because this is, okay, this is how she said it. She was like, I was in the Navy, and I was having relations with these two boys who were roommates, and they both had my photo on their wall, but they were different. One of the photos was of my back, and one of them was my face. So, like, it was, I was like, okay, that's not how, they would definitely, yeah, but Harriet was going. She was going. I, like, yeah, there was no way you were stopping her, or slowing her down, even. Yes! Sorry to yell, but, yeah, they were also hooking up. I think the Navy's pretty gay, right? Like, isn't that a thing? Yeah, anyone on a boat, gay. So, the way she was describing her first marriage was that they were, like, best friends. They had just gotten out of the Navy, and then they had their son, and he grew up, and, like, once the son left home, she said, he traded me in for a man wife. That's how she phrased it. She's 84. She's got some antiquated way. I don't either. I don't either, and so the woman from Portland and I, I don't even know the Portland woman's name. This is bad, but I know, but we both have Harriet, so, you know. So, she said man wife, meaning he married a man, and I don't know if it, I can't remember if it was the roommate, but it definitely was a man. Yeah, exactly. And then her next husband, her second husband was, like, this evil guy who was scamming people, like a psychic scammer. Like, like Long Island medium type stuff, but psychic. And she left him because she was like, I'm not scamming anybody. By the way, she is an avid casino goer, and she said that she has all this, like, she has all these hiding spots for her cash, and she knows how to beat the slots is what she says. And so, yeah, when she moved from Palm Springs to Walla Walla, Washington, she bought her house outright, like cash. Yeah, I mean, it was 80,000 Walla Walla. She did, yeah. No, she, yeah, she, I mean, yeah, I mean, I certainly don't. I live with my parents. Maybe I will if I stick around for a while, but for a few more years, well, lots of years. Anyway, this is about Harriet. It's not about me. Yeah, so she was talking about how she, like, immediately, you know, moved to Walla Walla, Washington, to be by her grandson, and they go to picnics every Sunday, and they hang out every Sunday. And I was like... Mm, no. Yeah, and he drove her to the airport from Walla Walla, Washington, which is, like, really far. I don't know how, like, five hours of the drive? Yeah, and she loved her grandson. She told us about his girlfriends, about how she didn't like the last two. She's trying to warm up to this one. It was, I would say it was, like, 75% her to us, and then maybe, like, 80-20. It was an 80-20 combo. Because she, every once in a while, would say something homophobic, and I, like, couldn't. Or, like, you know, just a little off-color. It was a sign of her time, and I would say, oh, you can't say that anymore. Her name's Harriet. Yeah. Well, she seemed cool. She was, like, the stuff she was talking, well, I was just, like, she can handle it. She can either ignore me or not, but I'm, like, she told me that when she moved up to Washington, she, like, got back in touch with her ex-husband's, her first ex-husband's friends, and they all invited her, because I guess he moved to Washington, so he must have kept in touch with the son. I don't know. We didn't talk about the most crucial stuff, which is how did you fall out with your son? How did you not know you have a grandson? Blah, blah, blah, blah. But I learned a lot about her in every other way. But she was telling us that she moved to Washington, and her ex-husband's friends threw a party, and they were all gay men. And she was, like, telling us about the party, and they were doting on her, and I was, like, sounds great. You have friends. Blah, blah, blah. And then she goes, and then my daughter-in-law and her husband came to get me, and I was, like, oh, real people. And I was, like, well, gay people are real people. And just, yeah, I know, exactly. So immediately I was, like, well, just so you know, gay people are real people. And she goes, yeah, of course I know. I just, you know. And I was, like, okay. People are nuts. And, like, I've just barely scratched the surface of all the shit that she told me on this flight. It's an address and a phone number. And she got these cards made so that she could start dating again in Walla Walla. Yeah, she said her grandson took her to the, like, Elks Lodge, like, family breakfast thing. I don't know. And she was giving out this card, her card, to a few men. It was flirty and fun for sure. She was, like, she was unassuming, like, physically. She had a shorter cut. She had glasses. She needed assistance. Like, she had a cane. And so she seemed, you know, like a sweet old lady. But she had a mouth of a sailor. She was in the Navy. And she was, like, describing how when she moved to Walla Walla, all of the family was, like, okay, well, we have to adjust our, like, retirement so that we can all help Harriet when she gets here because she's, like, what was she, 79? So she was retired at that point. And she was, like, you don't have to help me, bitch. She was, like, or she was, like, describing herself, like, I'm a rich bitch, you know. You don't have to help me. And I was just, like. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah. Yeah, sit next to me on a plane. And. Yeah. She described her third marriage and how he died in her arms. And it was, like, devastating. But also beautiful. She was a nurse. And so she was, like, I knew it was coming. And it was her attitude. No, she didn't kill him. At least she didn't admit to that to us. But she was, like, totally in love with him. Oh, my God, this was funny, though. So he was in kidney dialysis. And so he was, like, he was tired. But he, like, a couple days, maybe not a couple days. Shortly before his death, he took his wife, Harriet, to lunch and then invited this man that she had never met before. And it was probably, like, a contemporary of their age. And Harriet was, like, this is weird. But anyway, they went to lunch. And then Harriet was, like, never invite that man to hang out with me ever again. And he was, like, well, I thought I'm introducing you to your boyfriend for when I pass. I don't want you to be lonely. Yeah, and she was, like, ugh. She was pissed. And I was, like, oh, man, that's crazy. How thoughtful of your husband, though. Yeah, she was. Or maybe he thought it was funny. I could see that. Yeah, a little parting prank. But then he did eventually pass. And the guy started calling her, like, nonstop. And she was, like, literally day of the death or next day. Yeah. It's true. And also, like, yeah, out of that, a lot of people do that. And old people are getting down. Like, they're getting busy. They're throwing caution to the wind. They're just, like, they're, like, we don't have a lot of time. Let's do this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Ugh, yeah. Okay, so get this. So he started calling her nonstop. And she was, like, I'm not having this. And she, like, deleted his message. And then she looked at both of us dead in the eye. She, like, swung her head to both. And she goes, I kid you not, I walked outside. I faced east. And I prayed for the first time in 30 years. And I said, God, I need your help. I need you to take care of this. I can't have this nuisance in my life. She's talking about the man. And I was, like, I didn't know you were supposed to face east. Maybe that's been my issue. But anyway, she goes, yeah, yeah. And anyway, she goes back inside. She goes about her business. And then the next day another friend called and said, that guy had died. Yeah, she was, like, I killed him. I killed him. And I was, like, sure. She was also at Kennedy's inauguration. Yeah. And, yeah, like, it could be bullshit, you know. That's totally fair. My brother, who's a doctor, was, like, I was telling him these stories when I landed. And he was, like, no. That lady didn't take her meds. And I was, like, I don't know. She was pretty sure about it. But this Kennedy inauguration story really got me. Because she actually wrote a book. Maybe we should Google her and see if it's true. But she was at the Kennedy inauguration as a nurse in the Navy, which I was, like, that's weird. I don't know. I don't know if they get naval nurses. But she was there. It could have been. That's okay. So she was there. And she was with a different nurse or a different medical team. And apparently the stands where the inauguration actually happens, where the oath is taken, was made out of 2x4s at that point. Like, the seating. And now it's metal pipes or whatever. And so Kennedy, like, got a big sliver in his hand right before. And her medical partner or whatever had to remove it and then put a Band-Aid on the president before he took the oath. And I was, like, that's crazy. So I was trying to Google, like, was Kennedy wearing a Band-Aid at his inauguration? And I was, like, zooming into these pictures, like, enhance, enhance. And they're old as shit. So I can't. I couldn't see in the black and white photos. But then I chat GPT'd it and asked if Kennedy had a Band-Aid on his hand. And it said yes. And either way, I mean, it could all be made up. And I still had a great time. And I thought I was going to have a. I don't know. Me and this lady. Yeah. No, it's fine. So she said she wrote a book. So maybe I'll Google that after because I don't have Internet up here. But, yeah. I think her life. The title is something about lemons because she's always made lemonade out of lemons or whatever. But, yeah, maybe she didn't go into her hardships. She really stayed at the highlights except for her one murder thing. Her murder through prayer. It was sad, but it was also really beautiful in a way. If it was true. Like, he was in hospice and the nurse was, like, she was crying. He was in hospice and the nurse was, like, she was helping the nurse. And, like, to change the bed sheets, she had to, the nurse had to roll her husband towards her. And then, like, put the sheet back on or whatever. And, like, during the rolling, so he was being held by Harriet. And he said, I love you. And then when she rolled him back, he passed. Two and a half hours. It was, yeah, I mean, it was nonstop. There were no silences. I got off the plane and the couple that was in front of me was at the end of, like, right before, I don't know. They were standing off to the side. I was, like, about to pass them. And they were, like, you are a really good listener. And I was, like, oh, my God. Yeah. They were, like, wow. And the husband was, like, I turned off my podcast. And I was, like, well, I hope you enjoyed ours. Like, yeah. Yeah. She had a glasses case that she got from a patient in the 80s that said it's hard being a sex symbol. And, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I couldn't have. Like, I still am not even partway through the number of stories that she relayed. And this is the longest my segment has ever gone. Me, too. She seems great. She's not. And she doesn't have a cell phone. Which I'm, like, girl, you've got to get a cell phone. And I was trying to, yeah, I was trying to teach her how to. She has, like, one of those, like, jitterbug things where it's only a few people. So I was trying to show her how to use my phone. But she got distracted and started talking about herself. Oh, she's a Leo, by the way. She's born in August, I guess. They're supposed to be kind of, like, showbiz, baby. Like, they're, like, really outgoing, I guess. Yeah. Well, my brother-in-law is a Leo, and he is not. He's, like, confident, but he's not, like, loud or. No. No, no, no. He's, like, pensive and will talk to you. But he's, like, seemingly, he's pretty quiet. You know? What are you? What are you again? Not that I, like, I don't know. Oh. I have no idea. Cancer. Cancer. We're supposed to be, like. Oh, yeah. I think. I think I talked about myself. And, oh, I talked about Pisces. Because in February, that's, like, all the Pisces in early March. And they're supposed to be really close with cancers. I think that's what we talked about. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Yeah, that's what I have for you. And I might have a Harriet part two. I mean, maybe I should give her a call. I mean, I, like, yeah, I'll do some more Harriet research. Her name's Harriet E. Link, if you want to look up her book, everyone, all of our listeners. Yeah. She apparently had her grandson give out lemonade at the signing at the Walla Walla bookstore. Yeah. And. Oh. She was very, like, she called herself plenty of names. I'm a lemon tart. Yeah. Or, like, slut. Maybe, like, life's a lemon. But she didn't seem, she kept, like, instead of being quiet in between stories, she would go, yep, that's just how I am. That's how I think. I'm just positive and I think good thoughts. That's just me. That's me, Harriet. Like, that was how she punctuated her stories, by being, like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she was really positive. Like, she said some darker stories. She didn't go into how she lost her son and disconnected from her family. Maybe she would. Maybe we should get her on the pod. Yeah. Yeah, that's Harriet. Yes. Not Caitlin Clark. JoJo Siwa has been being made fun of on social medias. And I don't know what's going on. But I can tell they're making fun of her. Okay. Yeah, please. I'm. I don't know who it is. Once you start describing, I may. I don't at this moment. Okay. Okay. I'm back on board. I know who this is. I've seen clips of her getting taunted from the crowd and being, like, like, totally unfazed. Okay. I'm back on board. I know who this is. I've seen clips of her getting taunted from the crowd and being, like, like, totally unfazed. Yeah. Okay. But I'm back on board. I know who this is. I've seen clips of her getting taunted from the crowd and being, like, like, totally unfazed. Yeah. Okay. But I don't watch sport. I don't sport. Oh, yeah. I'm mad for March. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my brother-in-law had games on when we were on spring break. I'll ask him. I'll see him this weekend. Yeah. If you don't know who Caitlin Clark is, I'll. Okay. Okay. Okay. If you don't. Yeah. Yeah. You wanted to be a Barbie? I thought that was your dad's engagement. Yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. We put our little feminist dose into that segment, that we all know who Caitlin Clark is and we're behind her 100%. Ooh. That's some real Harriet language right there. Okay. Oh. I've never seen a full episode, but I have. I've seen clips, yeah. Mm-hmm, Clip City. Oh. Wasn't there a bow? Okay. Oh. That sucks. Mm-hmm. Okay. Right. Yeah, she just had her tongue out. Yeah, no, I'm a Miley fan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, she's like, she's rebranded, but she's stayed pretty consistent since then, like doing, not like super racy, but like she's not, she's not gone back to like squeaky clean, like she's not, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, this is the thing that I saw clips from. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. There is. I didn't realize that was. I mean, I saw it. I didn't realize that was what she was referencing. Are you serious? What? Oh, that's. That's, that's really embarrassing to say those things. Regarding a 2011. Song. Cause I wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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