02-19-2024

Two friends discuss their love for TikTok and their experiences living on an island. They talk about their friendship and how they met through a mutual friend. They also discuss their love for reality TV shows like The Bachelor and Love Island. One friend shares a funny story about a friend of a friend who set up a "bachelor-style" evening for herself and invited multiple suitors. They also talk about their preferences in dating and relationships, including openness and polyamory. They briefly mention the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and share some personal experiences with relationships and falling out of love. Me too. Recording on my end. Yeah, go for your intro. Okay. Hi. Hmm. I love it. My name is Maddie. I am also pretty obsessed with TikTok. I live on an island. Oh, yeah. I mean, I get a lot of gentle parenting stuff, and I don't have a child, and I don't plan on having a child. So, I live on Bainbridge Island, and a little island in the northwest. I'm single. I work in architecture, and I live in an ADU on my parents' property. I don't have a dog, but my mom has this really bitchy cat, and that's my life. Are you sure the hole lives above my parents' garage? I guess I didn't specify. Thank you. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I'm all for meds. I guess that's my biggest thing lately, is I went on antides, and I love them. Citalopram. Yeah. Should we say why we know each other or how we know each other? Okay. So, Liz and I have a friend that we share, hence, friend of a friend. My friend from high school, Liz's friend from college. Yeah. The sweetest person in the world, Hayley Allen. She had a bachelorette party and invited 19 of her closest friends, because she's I know. I know. That's like an intimate gathering for her, which was such a lovely time. Liz and I hit it off, and this podcast is going to document us becoming friends through talking about gossip, reality TV. I don't know. What have you? Men TVs, work, life, all the things. It feels odd. It feels like you got to be cooler than you would be in a job interview. You got to sound relaxed, but also Yeah. This is endearing. Yes. Okay. Liz, I've actually been dying to tell you this, because it cracks me up so much. Okay. So, I don't think it'll ever get back to the person, but a friend of a friend accidentally went to I don't even know how to describe it, except for this person set up sort of like a bachelor, bachelorette style evening for herself, and yeah, and she invited like all these suitable suitors, I guess, and my various places, I think, well, she's quite adventurous and super personable. I've met her once, and I was like, whoa. She acted like we were old friends, and like in somehow not an off-putting way, so I could see how she could amass that many suitors for one night. So, I honestly love her, because as a single gal, I need to work on that kind of confidence. So, my friend went, and he didn't realize that he was one of the potential suitors, and so it was at this brewery, and they were like, I want to say like 13 to 15 dudes, and then all men, and then her. Yeah, and then her one friend and her friend's husband, and so it was like she basically set up a bachelor episode. They didn't really know. She said, oh, like it's just a gathering of a couple friends, but as my friend started talking to others, he realized their, like their connection to her was about the same kind of distance, like either from a work event, or like my friend was on a project with her. So, like yeah, but it was all that kind of like acquaintance level, plus she had recently dumped somebody who was like two and a half times her age, which yeah, she's just a gal who knows what she wants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and so these dudes were like talking about their hobbies and whatnot, and they were all like they were all like really outdoorsy, very much Pacific Northwest, and like they're all, they all looked the same. That was the other thing. Yeah, she's, she's got a type, and my friend was, yeah, he did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, did you get a rose at the end? That would be a telltale sign that you went to a bachelorette event, and he was like, no, I didn't. I don't know. I think it was a lot of like, can I steal hers for a sec? Yeah, well, you know that they have to become friends, and I think there was a bit of posturing is what my friend told me. Like, you know, in explaining what their hobbies are and whatnot, it was like, well, I'm like, I've been sailing for however many years. So, he basically got their like that little bio that's under them, their frame. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, my friend was like, I was not on par with these people, and I was like, that's ridiculous. You're well above them, in my opinion, but it was, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Turns out she started dating, again, a much older man. So, like, she didn't find love that evening, but what a story. Like, I just love that for her. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I had to explain to my friend the premise of bachelor, bachelorette. I am not part of Bachelor Nation or whatever they're called. I've only seen one season of The Bachelor. Pilot Pete. Yeah, probably. Oh, I guess I watched half of Claire's, the following one. That was really, yeah, that was, are you into it? No. Yeah. Well, no, I'm not above it either. Like, I am obsessed with Love Island. Like, yeah. Like, I spent, the other weekend, I think I spent like six hours watching, straight, UK. And I've never seen the U.S. version. I mean, I'm not, I mean, I definitely would. Maybe I'll get into it. I did follow the host. Yeah. I watched Love Island all stars the other weekend. And so it was like, I think what would be like Bachelor in Paradise is what I imagine it. Yeah. Yeah. I watched Love Island all stars the other weekend. And so it was like, I think what would be like Bachelor in Paradise is what I imagine it. No, the challenges on Love Island are like, that, like, no one really wins. Like, there's no winning. It's just like something to do because they're locked in this house for however many weeks without books and phones. And like, I mean, I don't know how people go, or like, get out of there with their brain intact. Honestly, I don't think they do. Yeah. And it's been like, just to, yeah. And what I like about this season is the, they're like all stars or whatever. So I know some of them from past seasons. And they talk about what it's like on the outside. And like, they don't really do that in, like, in the newer or like, in the regular seasons. They do like, today, see something on the outside working blah, blah, blah. Yeah. But like, here they talk about it a lot more, which is so interesting, especially because they're all of their lives are somewhat similar in a way. And so it's like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Which is so interesting, especially because they're all of their lives are somewhat similar in a way having been on Love Island. There's like this really low level fame. Most of them are influencers. Like it's, they're like, I don't know. It's so interesting to me. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. Well, currently, I'm like, sort of seeing, or like, I have a crush on somebody who's like, 13 years older than me. And that, I think I could go a little bit further than that, but probably not much more. Okay. Mm hmm. It's like you were married or, yeah. Yeah. I think, I think the person I'm interested right now at 45, I think that's probably my max, maybe. I mean, never say never, I guess, but like, they'd have like, I mean, that seems it's like fine right now. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's having mentibes right now. So. No. I would love those. I feel like I had a question. No, I guess not. Yeah. The confidence. Yeah. Yeah. I know. There probably would have been 15 more, but the rest of them were in bed by that point, like the old men. Yeah. Woo. Yeah. I'm ready to hear your segment. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that who was telling you? Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I hate the holier than thou stuff. It's like, I'm sure you have a vice, sir. Like. Yeah. Everybody has something. Get him. Drag his ass. Okay. Mm hmm. I used to watch in high school quite regularly, but not recently. I guess I know some of the characters, like I know Erica Jane. I know Kyle. I've seen clips of Sutton. Name them. Name them. Name them. Name them. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was like rock solid. I don't know. Well, okay. This shows my, like my origins with Beverly Hills, but do you remember the dinner party? Yeah. Oh. Just go watch that clip if anybody's, if anybody's interested. It is, it is. She sits back with like an e-cigarette. Mind you, this is before like e-cigarettes were, yeah, before Juul. This was like, I think 2009, maybe 2010. And she sits back in these horrible Tuscan inspired chairs in this sick LA mansion or Malibu thing. And she is smoking this e-cigarette with a huge margarita. And it's just like telling these housewives what's what. It was one of the best things I've ever seen on television. Yeah. No, nothing. And it had a real choke hold on everyone. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think that kind of falling out of love happens over time, but I did see some TikTok, and this is anecdotal, of course, that was like, she said she was a therapist, but who knows? That was like women, women, when they like finally like reach a certain point that the women, when they like finally like reach a certain point that the, of the frustration, they kind of snap. And then like everything changes, even if it's not like one big blow up. I know in, in like, in my ex's relationship, like my relationship with my ex was like, there were lots and lots of little terrible things. And eventually I was like, I can't take this anymore. Yeah, yeah, something must have happened. I also think like fame sucks with people's heads. And I think perhaps, well, certainly. What? Oh, is it about the... Mm, got it. Oh. Hmm. That's a tough one. Because I'm not against, like, polyamory. I'm like, oh, I'm... Yeah, like, I think, I mean, I'm single right now, but I think if I were to get into a relationship, I don't know, in the next couple of years, I'd probably want polyamory as part of it. Maybe not poly, but like, whatever, openness. No, I'm an argument, whatever it is, like, um, maybe, I don't know, maybe I want to close it off. But I think if it were not discussed, yeah, I would be like, okay, well, it signifies some deeper problems. But I don't know, because I have some friends who went through a cheating situation, and they're like, now, so, so much closer, and they're like, stronger than most couples I know. Please. Mm-hmm. I mean, technically, I'm a product of, like, an adulterous relationship. Sorry, mom. Uh, if you are listening, yeah. So, my dad got married super young, and then went to grad school, and that's where he met my mom. And he, like, fell out of love with his high school sweetheart, but he had a baby, my sister. And so, it was this very dramatic ending to their marriage. But my parents have been together 35 years, 30. I think I prefer this, maybe because I am biased, but, but also, I'm like, okay, fine, it was worth it. Like, it was better for everybody involved. And, and, oh, but actually, so, my, I mean, maybe, maybe I shouldn't say this. I don't know. Her, my sister's brother and I had, like, some mutual friends for a little bit in college. He's my age, 31. And he, it got back to me that he was, like, shit-talking my family and my dad. And it's like, if my dad hadn't cheated on your mom, you wouldn't exist. Yeah. So, and, like, the, yeah, like, my sister's mom and her husband were also, they also went to high school together. So, my dad went to high school with his ex-wife's husband. His ex-wife's husband. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, they've been together ever since they got together a long time ago as well. So, like, I don't know. If someone cheated on me and left me, I think I would be devastated. But also, I'm like, I hope, I hope that actually works out. Liz, you kill me. I had a long, no, I already went to grad school. No, but I think, it's a trope in architecture school, actually, for them to, or for people to, like, hook up and then get married and, like, start an architecture firm together. That's, like, a thing. And my parents did that. There's tons of them. Like, a lot of, especially in my parents' generation. I wonder if I haven't, I don't really, no one that I got together from my year when I went, the love is gone. Yeah, it's just kind of a grueling program, usually, architecture school in general. And people just kind of, yeah, kind of like medical students. I don't know. Yeah, maybe, well, isn't it a thing, like, business trips and, like, conferences and stuff, people, like, go there and cheat? But I did hear this story of, like, my ex's friend or some friend that this guy, like, moved to wherever her school was, and she was doing a PhD, so it was a longer program. And it was, like, I think, like, six years or something like that. And they were together the whole time. She was in school. He was working, new place. They made friends, whatever. And then, like, six months after she graduated, or less, maybe, like, three or four, she was, like, I've been cheating on you with my PhD partner, and I'm in love with them, and you need to leave. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, like, that's, like, so harsh and heartless, but also, like, I guess if it was done, but, like, if you've been cheating for a long period of time, like, just cut the other person loose. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. You're a good worker. Ugh. Yeah. You spend time, enough time with someone. Hmm. Okay. They broke up, but is that, so, like, she hates it now, or? Yeah. Sorry. Hmm. Oh. I saw a TikTok that, like, did a deep dive on her psycho mother. Yeah. And that was insane, but they didn't bring up the fact that her and Mo are separated, but. Oh, I did. Time will tell. You can fall in love with anybody. Mm. Yeah. Sounds good. Nice. Good. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I would be waiting patiently. You're welcome. Mm. Mm. I think that one's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. That's important. I hear that on podcasts. Mm. Please be nice. I think we can. Oh. We can, we can respond to them, maybe. Like a. Yeah. Thanks, everyone. Bye, Hales.