Podcast ep 3

The speaker welcomes a new guest, Oscar O'Leary, and they discuss their week. Oscar talks about his job as an apprentice electrician and being grateful for being able to work. They also talk about feeling alone despite having a good support network. Oscar shares his experience of his parents' divorce and growing up with separated parents. He talks about the challenges of cooking and budgeting as well as finding a release in working at the pub. Oscar mentions his dream job in electrical work and his plans for the future. The speaker asks about high school and Oscar reflects on his experience. Overall, Oscar emphasizes the importance of staying positive and working hard. Righty-o. Welcome to episode 3. Another big week on the potty. I've got a fair few listens and everything else. Thanks Stevie for coming on. Yeah, it's been a good time. So I've got my next guest here, Oscar O'Leary. So introduce yourself mate, tell us a bit about yourself. Yeah, we'll go from there. So, my name's Oscar. I work at the Globe Hotel on the weekends. I'm actually an apprentice electrician for Connect Electrical. Yeah, not much Stevie. Sweet. How's your week been mate? Fairly busy. It always is. Quite a fun day today and probably busy again next week. Yeah. Sweet. I've actually had a pretty quiet week this week compared to some of the shit that happened last week. So I haven't really been complaining. Just another week off work. So, I actually haven't worked for 15 days. So, when people say they're living the dream, I'm actually living the dream right now. So, yeah, something I've asked my previous guest, is just something you're grateful for at the moment, Oscar? Something I'll be grateful for is being able to get up every day and do what I do. So, work really. Yeah, that's good. Grateful for... I'm grateful for a lot, but I'm probably grateful for annual leave to be honest. Just being able to chill at home with the boys and Chanel and just, yeah, actually relaxing. I've been having a pretty full on year. Fairly wicked at the moment. Yeah, well I'm getting paid a fair bit to do fucking not much. Not much. Which was basically what I was doing at the pub anyway, apparently. Yeah, that's a rumour. Anyway, so, yeah, got me contracting the amount, which I'll go through and get that done hopefully this week or next week and then I'm on. So, I've got a question here that got asked through my Facebook. So, was there ever a point where no matter how much support I was receiving, did I still feel alone? There definitely was. I find that even I was getting support from home and from everyone. I think a lot of the drives to and from footy training is probably when I actually feel the most alone. You get obviously some time where you're just in your own head and if you have a bad night on the track or you've had a shit up at work and you're on the drive out, I think that's probably where I feel most alone. But I just crack the tunes. So, just put some Ed Sheeran classics on and sing me hard out on the way out there and sing me hard out on the way home. But yeah, there definitely is still to this day times where, you know, obviously I'm in a pretty good headspace at the moment, but there's still times where you just get stuck in your own head and you definitely feel alone even if you've got, you know, a very good support network. You know, so if you are feeling alone, you know, just do something that makes you happy. So whether that is listening to music or, you know, exercising or, you know, make a phone call to someone. Whatever it is, just take your mind off it. No doubt that there are people around that do feel alone that have a very good support network, so just rely on them as much as you can. So, yeah, might get stuck into it. I was going to get stuck into your story. Sounds good. Obviously, yeah, we've been talking last week and even on the first episode about, I guess, people's perception of people and I think, you know, this is probably a good platform for yourself to really open up so people know more about you. I think, you know, from the outside looking in, people probably just think you're an arrogant prude. 100%. Yeah, which, you know, I think is very misleading. I think at times you can be, but as we all can be. But obviously, you know, yeah, start us off, mate. Where were you born and bred? Born in Adelaide, bred in Mount Gambier. So, yeah, grown up here. So, local lad. Yeah. Got a brother, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brother Jack and older sister Georgia. Got an older sister Georgia. I actually didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that. You didn't know that. I actually had to surprise her, but I wasn't surprised. Um, obviously, yeah, we'll get a bit, uh, get a bit on the emotional side here, I guess, straight away. But, uh, obviously I only know a little bit, but, uh, mum and dad situation? I split 11, 11 years ago, probably now. Yep. So, I was very young. So, obviously, now I've come to, like, come to terms with the age, you know, so it's just, it's the normal for me. Yeah. I guess so. Yep. Yeah. How'd you, you wouldn't really? I, I can't say I don't remember. I do remember when it happened, but I don't know. I can't remember the feeling. Yep. If that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. And obviously Jack was a lot younger as well. Yeah, he was younger. But, you know, even probably going through it at, you know, around this age or your teenage years, how did you just go? Uh, obviously, yeah, I guess, what was it like growing up? I suppose when you, like, people's perspective on, uh, like a divorce is a double, double presents at Christmas and double presents on birthdays and stuff, but it wasn't, it wasn't like that, really. It was, I don't really know how to explain it. It was definitely different. I mean, like, they, like, my parents still argued a heap at the time, I remember. Um, and I suppose us kids got caught up a lot in that, which was probably, it wasn't our fault, but that's just how it went. Yep. That's why sometimes that's how it does go. Yeah, yep. Yeah. Um, obviously, so where's, so obviously I don't know, but mum's away at the moment. Yeah, mum's away. She lives in Brisbane. Yep. Dad, I couldn't really, he's in Perth. I don't know where he is. I haven't spied him in for a very, very long time. Yeah, yeah. So how does that, uh, how do you reckon that, like, sort of makes you go about life without having, sort of, dad around? I suppose I'm at the point now of, I've shaped myself into the man I am. Yeah. Like, I, he hasn't had a huge, um, influence in my upbringing as of late, so I suppose I'm just, I'm doing me. I think I'm past the point where I need a father in my life. It's more me and any good mates to surround myself with. Yep, yep. And I guess through those, like, three teenage years, that's when you really do form, sort of, who you are. Obviously you're not, you know, I mean, you're not the same person at 18 as you are when you're 28, trust me. No, definitely not. Um, but obviously, how did, like, how did Jack go about it? I mean, obviously you can't speak for Jack. Yeah, definitely can't, yeah, definitely can't speak for Jack. I think I handled it emotionally a lot better than the other two. Yep. But he's, he's, he's chill, I suppose. Yeah. He's working, he's making his way through life like I am, so. Yeah. And I think, like, obviously, for one, coming from a broken home would be pretty tough, but two, obviously not having, well, I guess both parents around, um, obviously you're still in contact with mum and stuff, but she's obviously working away a fair bit. Yeah. That, you know, is bound to take its toll on you emotionally, um, whether you do play it off or you don't play it off. But I guess, like, from, you know, from my perspective on you and Jack, you've done pretty well for yourselves. Yeah, yeah. And you're both just hard workers, and I think that's probably, you know, I've known you since you were, what, 13, as a dishy at the pub? Yeah, yeah. So it's been a while, but, um, yeah, I think you've obviously done pretty well. It's something that, you know, for most people, they, they wouldn't even know about this. No. And, you know, I think it's probably a good chance for you to, you know, speak your piece, and there'd be plenty of people that have, that have come from a broken home, I guess, but have still had, well, I shouldn't call it a luxury, but still had, you know, both parents around them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? So there, there are people that, you know, and sometimes marriage just don't work, you know what I mean? It doesn't always end bitterly or anything, but I guess that you, you and your siblings have probably had the rough end of it, from my perspective. This is obviously just me giving my opinion, whether it's right or wrong, but. And I don't want to take away from anyone else either. Like, obviously, I think we might have had a pretty good compared to some others. Like, there's no, there's no good or bad, really. No. Like, everyone has been dealt their own, and. Yeah, oh, that's right. And so how do you, you've obviously, uh, fended for yourself a fair bit, I guess, over the last little bit, like. Yeah, to some, to some extent, I suppose. I will, I will praise Mum, though. She has had, like, a lot to do in my upbringing. Like, she probably would be one of the main reasons why I'm like I am. And, um, I suppose with her going away, it's kind of made myself and my brother a lot more mature. We've grown up quicker. I suppose we've learned how to live, really. How to pay bills and all the rest of it. And other people only learn, well, I'd say other people learn that when they're going on 28, too. Yeah, that's right. Like, I've learned it early. And you've definitely, like, yeah, obviously, you love your Mum. She's spoken about pretty frequently at work, and, you know, it wasn't until you told me the other day who she actually was, and I was like, geez, I'm an idiot. Yeah, there you go. But, yeah, no, she, yeah, she's pretty lucky to have you boys. So, yeah, obviously, you've got nothing but praise for her. But how'd you go? I guess, what were the challenges? Obviously, with Mum being in Queensland, you can still talk to her on the phone and message and all that. But, I mean, like, physically not having either parent around. What was probably the biggest challenge, especially over the last, say, three years? What do you reckon the biggest challenges are? Definitely finding a good balance between cooking at home and junk food. So, it's kind of, it was just all about, like, not being lazy. I kind of had to find the right balance between work and then going to the shop at the start of the week and knowing what to buy for my meals for the week and just set my week out just so I start ready to go. But I know a lot of times I'd get home from work and I'd be like, oh, nah, we'll just go down to Hungry Jack's and, yeah, that's sorted. But, I mean, cooking was definitely a big thing at the start. We weren't heaps keen on that. Like, we'd be really good for a week and then we'd just fall back into the old ways. And, yeah, and then it was kind of all about, like, how do we save money? How do we budget for this? How do we budget for that type of thing? So, I mean, yeah, definitely cooking and budgeting was some of the biggest things at the start. That's all sweet now, though. I think we've got that sorted. Who do you have to bounce off? Because, obviously, shit gets tough sometimes. I know you say that you sort of just push through it and away you go. But, I mean, yeah, even, like, the last little bit you've been messaging me saying you've been flat and you've been this. So, obviously, that's some range of emotion that, you know, is one way you're actually saying you're battling a little bit. But, like, who's been probably your biggest sounding boards over the last, say, how old are you? 20? 20, yeah. Last five years. As of recently, you've been good. You've been supportive. Grandparents are in town, so they support us. They cook for us sometimes. And I've got another good mate, isn't that right? Luke, he's been really supportive as well. He's always helped me out when he feels he needs to. So, that's been good. Mum, obviously. Yeah, mum will. Which is standard. Yeah, mum will put in where she can. And, you know, Bamaani, she's really good at bouncing stuff off. She's very supportive. Definitely my mates. They'll check in time to time to see how we're going. Obviously, they're busy working as well, so, I mean, they'll, like, we'll check in with each other when we can. Yeah, yeah, that's just life. Yeah, off the top of my head, I can't really think of any others. Yeah. But I'm sure there's plenty. Yeah. Definitely plenty. Yeah. Do you think you work so much just to sort of feel avoid or what's the go there? 100%. 100%. If I'm working, if I'm busy, if I'm occupied, I don't have time to feel flat. Yeah. I don't get stuck in any little rut. I just work and then there's no other time to feel down or get upset about stuff. I work, I go home, I cook, I sleep, and I do it again. There's no, like, downtime. There's no in-between time. Do you think, like, emotionally you're probably better off now than what you were when you were 16, 17? It was a while ago, but I'd say yes. I think I'm way more mature. I know what I'm doing now. Because obviously you hit the piss a fair bit less now. Yeah. Do you feel like you went through, because obviously we all go through that party stage, and I went through it at sort of 18, 19 until I was sort of, like, 21, I guess. Do you think you went through it earlier? Like, if, yeah, you know what I mean? I mean, when... We all went to house parties and shit, but we're 15, 16, but... Yeah, I went to the odd, I went to, like, a few house parties and whatnot, and obviously drank. I wasn't an absolute, like, piss head, but I mean, I had a little bit of a crack, and I suppose when I turned 18, I think I was going out drinking eight months straight or something, and then kind of asked for the job at the pub and then pulled my head in and haven't really been drinking since, I suppose. Yeah. The pub takes up a fair bit of time, obviously. What do you think of challenges at the pub, do you reckon, like? I think I'm fine now, but, like, because obviously I work in the bar quite a bit, if not on the door. You just get people come up and they demand. Yeah. They don't use any manners at all, and that actually gets to me, just like how, I don't know, how they're being brought up or whatnot. It's got nothing to do with me, but, like, a please and a thank you doesn't... Like, it goes a long way. Absolutely. Like, if someone said, like, come up and said, hey, can I please have two vodkas and a soda? Like, yeah, no worries, sure. Yeah. And, like, it actually makes me want to be there. Yeah. But when people have no manners and they're just rude and arrogant, like, it doesn't make it a fun place. No. But it's a good... And I think, obviously, yourself, you're on the tools flat out. It's a good release. Like, obviously, working at The Globe is a little bit different than working at Jen's because of the whole night clubbing sort of things where you don't really get that front bar type people at, obviously, 9.30 at night. Yeah. But I think, yeah, I think it's... I'll find it, even though, you know, it's probably the one thing that went away straight away was, like, the bar work for me. When you're, obviously, running a pub, you just spend so much time doing other shit. And even on a Saturday night, if you're on the door or you're doing, you know, the RP type thing or, you know, the first thing that goes is, like, the bar work. Yeah. I think that's just a good release. You just talk to that many different people. Like, we're pretty lucky, obviously, we work in two of the busiest pubs in town. So you actually do meet a fair few people. For you, is it, like, a good release? You know, you get to a sad day. I know, obviously, you know, the alternative is you just hit the piss. But for you, is it a good release? Obviously, you're busy anyway, but just to get beyond the bar and just have a chat? You know, even the people that we work with, you can chat to them at work and all that. Yeah. It's not even so much about having a chat, because, I mean, most of the time, people are pretty pissy. But, I don't know, just being there busy, being able to, like, you get the odd people that use their manners and whatnot, and that's rewarding. But, yeah, I don't know, just being, like, being busy in the bar is good. I suppose that is a good release. You just talk to some steam, I suppose. Yeah. And you don't have time to think about anything. No, you don't. Let's be honest, especially, yeah, you work your Saturday nights when you've got, you know, five or six hundred people rolling in. You don't have time to get caught up in your feels. Like, you're flat out. So, I guess that's probably, like, obviously, I'm not going to be doing Saturday nights, but that's one thing I actually can't get, can't wait to get back into, is just back pouring beers and chilling out a little bit. You know what I mean? The cruisy one is cruisy. Yeah. Yeah. What's your dream job? Um, well. Don't take this wrong, Connect, by the way. But. Um, I mean, yeah, I don't really know at the moment. I think my main goal is just finishing my apprenticeship. And then, obviously, I want to work for Connect for a couple more years down the track and maybe, maybe travel a little bit and do that. But I love electrical work. Like, it's always done what I wanted to do. I wouldn't have done a different trade. But I think, mate, like, this is at the, like, with my pub job, it's just passing time. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Um, but I would, yeah, obviously, stay in my field and probably go somewhere down the line to that. You're pretty lucky, I guess, having the bosses that you got, too. Yeah. Yeah. They're really, really good blokes. Good to work for. Um, we're actually doing a promotion at the moment with confessions. So. Went down there this morning, actually. Yeah. Brought them early. Got a coffee and got a few Connect electrical cups. So. Yeah, they're all, they're there at the moment. The coffee was good as usual and, you know, looked even better in a nice little Connect, uh. They look really good. They look really, really good. Yeah. I don't mind it, actually. Um, yeah. So, I don't really have much planned, to be honest with you, for this episode. I just wanted to get to know you a little bit more. I think, obviously, yeah, I knew a little bit, but not, not massive. Um, you know, where do you see yourself in 10 years? Oh, um, that's hard. I don't, I can't say I'll look too much into the future. I'm more of a present type of dude. So, I'm kind of just taking each day by day and just. Alright. Well, I've got something on the flip side then. What would you tell a younger version of yourself right now, if you could talk to him? What would you tell him? You know, if anywhere between a 13 year old or 14 year old Australia-ery, what would you tell him? It gets better. It gets better. Just keep your head down and, yeah, it gets, it does get better. Definitely. So, that time you'd been going through high school, how'd that go? What was high school like for you? Um, I think, from my point of view, it was a little bit rough. I mean, I hated school. I did not like school at all. Um, I used to take a lot of, like, I used to have a massive group of mates at school and I used to take everything to heart. Yeah. So, any, like, little bit of banter, I'd take it to heart and I'd feel like it was bullying. But in the whole scheme of things, I probably wasn't. Um, but I used to think I had a really tough time at school. Yeah. I don't know if I actually did. Yeah. Because I went different back then. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I didn't like going to school at all. I couldn't get out of there quick enough. Yeah. Yeah. So, obviously, like, you would have been just an emotional wreck too, I guess, but you probably wouldn't have been able to notice it. Do you reckon, like, obviously you're not really that up in your emotions still. Um, but looking back then, do you reckon it was just the way, I guess, you perceived people were treating you, do you think it was just because of what you were going through or what you had been through? Probably. Like, highly, highly likely, yes. Um, yeah, I think I definitely dealt with stuff back then in a different way than I do now. But yeah, yeah, likely. Um, yeah. So, as far as mental health side of things, you're pretty all over it, aren't you? Like, I think I've got it, yeah. Obviously, everyone fucking gives their own shit differently, but you're definitely someone, I guess, that pushes through. Um, you don't really dwell too much on it. I try not to. I try my best not to. Yeah. Because, like, I think the more I dwell, like, just for me, the more I dwell on something, the deeper, the deeper stuck in I get. Yeah. And then it's harder to get out and you're just stuck there just thinking about the same shit over and over and just, just running every scenario through your head about what could happen, that sort of thing. So, yeah, I try, yeah, not to dwell. Yeah, yeah, which is probably obviously a good way to be. Um, some people obviously can't help it, but that's all part of the journey. I mean, everyone's definitely different on how they deal with things. That's just how I deal with my stuff. Yeah. And I think it all depends on mindset. Like, I get caught up in some shit. Sometimes it means absolutely nothing, but I overthink it. I think I'm a little bit of an overthinker. Like, I take the smallest thing and I'm like, fuck, but I think overall it's not too bad. Um, any questions for me? Oh, I don't know. I feel like I know you pretty well. Like, I don't know. Have you got anything to tell me? Have I got anything to tell you? Um, what don't I already know? I already know you do so. Um, what you don't know about me? I don't know. Did you know I'm alluding to bullies? To bullies? Bullies. No, I didn't know that. Random, random thing. So, I was literally like five or six, maybe a little bit older and got bit by a bully. Yes. Went into like a like anaphylactic shock. Yeah. And yeah, obviously didn't know I was alluding to bullies and nearly died. You just passed out. Yeah, no, I passed out. So, I fainted and shit. And then, um, they obviously stuck a needle in me leg and I don't remember obviously a whole heap of it. But mum told me that I seen, I told her I'd seen a white light. So, I guess I was. A white light? A white light. Oh. So, like I was croaking pretty close to the end of it. So, apparently anyway, I don't really remember much. But, um, yeah, I don't really, uh, I'm a pretty open book, I guess. That's probably the one thing that, yeah, over the last 18 months, I've definitely, I was pretty open anyway, but I tend to not keep too much on my chest. Yeah. Yeah. Any problems or anything I have with people, I just, I can tell. I mean, I think that's a good way to be. Best way to be. So, um, yeah, I think, um, probably nearly cut this one off, mate. Show a little 20 minute chat, which is not too bad. But I think, you know, what, what can you, what advice could you give people that potentially like have gone through or going through, you know, their parents breaking up? I know that everyone's, I know, obviously the reason for divorce is different for everyone. Um, but you know, looking back as a 20 year old now, and it happened obviously when you were reasonably young, what could you give, like what advice could you give people? Because obviously I, I'm from a broken home, so I don't really have anything I can actually put on that. Yeah. Um, where that's obviously, yeah, what, that's what you've lived through. Um, so there's obviously, you know, kids will go through shit. Um, I've, you know, witnessed it firsthand that kids go through shit, especially once, you know, the broken home process is actually, I think once it's in the works, I guess is I've seen some kids, yeah, that's when they start acting up, but obviously it's a massive change to happen at home. Um, but what advice could you give someone obviously that's going through it, going through it and they're a bit lost or whatever, you know, what's, what's something or some stuff that you did to get through it? And I know you sort of already touched on it, but you know, if someone was going to listen to this next week, that potentially is going through it or it's fresh, what could you tell them that would probably make it, you know, a touch easier? Yeah. Um, probably don't, yeah, don't hold it down. I remember a lot when I was in school, obviously, like I did go to the school counselor quite a bit. So I think talking to someone probably was really good. Like, and sometimes we didn't even talk. I just sat in a room, played with blocks or something. Like just, just had like got away from it all. Like do try and find something either with a mate or by yourself that you actually enjoy doing. Just take your mind off it. Maybe don't hold it all down. Just, yeah. Yeah. Just talk. Yeah. Talk, which obviously is pretty big thing. Yeah. This podcast, I guess that's, that's what it's all about is, uh, you know, is people speaking up and obviously, yeah, mental health happens for variety of reasons. Uh, that's the biggest thing I've done is obviously just spoke up. I think it's helped me a lot. Um, obviously I've received messages flat out again through the week from people who are battling and, you know, they've obviously all had the same, the same message that said, it's good to see that someone's, you know, speaking up and trying to normalize it. And I guess, you know, perfect from you to say, you know, just speak up. And I think with that age group, you're going through school and everything, you're going to have a trusted adult. Um, and whether it is, you know, your counsellor or whether it's a buddy, an SSO or a teacher or something, I think, you know, if you go through something like that and you're in the school network, there is very good support, I guess, for people. So, um, did it bring you and Jack closer? Oh yeah, shit yeah. Like, since, um, mum's left, mate, like, he's my best mate. Yeah. Like, could not be closer. It's, I think me and him have a really good dynamic. Yeah. Between us. Yeah. Yeah, we get along and stuff gets done. Who does more around the house? Definitely me. Definitely you. Just being the older brother and I think I'm a little bit more mature than him. He's, he's on his way, but I think definitely me. I'll push him a little bit when he's, like, slacking, I suppose. Um, and like, he'll come to me, which I think is really good, he'll come to me when he needs help with a lot of life stuff. Yeah. So he's just brought a car, I helped him with his whole life, like, the whole application. Yeah, the process. Yeah, all the, all the rest of it and how to go about getting it out of the pits and just, Yeah. just stuff like that. And then, I don't know, just cooking stuff, how to, how to cook and all the rest of it. Yeah. Yeah, just like, Just the natural stuff that an older brother does. Yeah. So I think, yeah, definitely, definitely a lot. Who's cleaner? Oh, mate, I'm definitely a lot cleaner. Yeah, right. Put your finger out, Jack. He, yeah, he's doing his bit. I think he's, he's kind of, I know where he's at, Yeah. because I was there. Yep. How old is he? Good question. 18. Yep. Yeah. Almost 20. Oh, I'm 20. I'm 18. You're an electrician. Um, yeah, but I know where he's at. I was, I was there not long ago, so he's, he's on his way. We're on his way. Yep. Yep. And I think, yeah, like I said, you do a pretty good job for where you're at in age. Like, you just know how to do shit. I was pretty hopeless, I think, at that age. I can't really remember. I think, I think it's a good, like, just being able to, Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And especially, like, if you know how to, and that's the shit that you don't learn in school. I mean, they try and teach you how to cook in school, but it's a load of shit. Like, if you can learn how to, clean up after yourself, cook. I think that's the main problem. Wash your own clothes. Yeah. Cleaning up after yourself. Yeah. Yeah. You see it, obviously, a lot. And even in both your jobs, you see it a fair bit. Yeah. Like, just people just don't clean up after themselves. No. That's my head in. Like, I obviously run around at home after two kids under three, and you're flat out cleaning up after them. Yeah. And then you go into, like, a work situation, or you're even, I don't know, just general life where people don't clean up after themselves. Yeah. And I think that just, I find it's probably, you know, they sit at home and mum and dad does it for them. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Like, it's even more, like you're saying, you go home and clean up after two kids. You go into the pub on a Saturday night, and you just see the disrespect through that place. Yeah. Like, that boy was my blood. Just, like, stuff everywhere. Yeah. Just the fact that they break walls and shit just doesn't hit you. But, we'll put some flats on this wall. We'll just punch the other wall. Yeah. I don't really get it. I don't get it. That's the biggest thing I'll think, like, especially, it's just one of those things that never crossed my mind when you're out on a piss. Just putting holes in walls. But, like, or punching stuff, and, like, I've done some dumb shit my time. But, like, you know, I was probably notorious for, they probably won't let me back in now, but, like, taking photo frames off the wall, and they actually put them back upside down. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it's funny. Like, you know, if someone does funny stuff, I'm like, that's pretty funny. Don't do it again. You know, I used to do that when I was, like, 18. I'm obviously not doing it anymore. No, we know of. No. Yeah. I probably could have done it, so I don't know. I don't really remember much. But, I think, like, you know, if you can go out and have fun, that's obviously the main thing. I don't get why people do what they do when they wreck shit. You know, imagine if we walked into their house and just did what they did. Yeah. They wouldn't be happy. Go down like a lead balloon, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Now, other than that, thanks for telling us your story, mate. Obviously, yeah, it's pretty game of you, and pretty open for you to come on and, you know, tell people, you know, what you've been through. And, obviously, like you said, there's a lot of people that go through it, and, you know, you probably could have had it easier than most. Yeah. Also, you've had it a lot harder than most. Obviously, it's not something that I can really comment on. And I think, yeah, where you and, obviously, Jack are in life, you've done pretty well for yourselves. Thank you. You work hard. So, just keep doing what you're doing, mate. Yeah, this is actually one of my shorter episodes, which I'm not really complaining about. Obviously, people are probably sick of hearing my voice nearly. I don't know. But, keep an eye out for some merch I've got coming, hopefully, soon. Yeah. Stickers and hoodies and shit. So, the plan is to get some made and donate some money to somewhere local. Yep. Not just anywhere local, obviously. Just probably, you know, somewhere like a Headspace or something. Yep. I'll donate some proceeds for that. So, just keep a listen here. Keep an eye out for my socials. Other than that, mate, I think we'll more or call it quits there. And that's the end for episode number three. So... Thanks for having me on. Cheers. Peace out.