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The hosts of Stalemates talk about low budget, low effort dating. They discuss how people may not be interested in relationships or getting married anymore. They share their experiences of not having engagement or wedding rings, but still getting married. They wonder if this lack of investment in rings reflects a lack of interest in the relationship. They mention being single and not sure if they want a relationship but wouldn't mind casual encounters. They also talk about their recent trip to Whistler, a party destination with a high STI count. They advise using protection. Stalemates, what's goin' on? Hello! Episode, we don't know what. Anyways, I'm Laurie Metz. I'm Vera Finne. And we are the hosts of Stalemates. Anyway, we just thought we would talk today about low budget, low effort dating. Has anyone been a victim of this? My hand is up. I would say in my humor, everything comes to go when you're a victim of this. What's goin' on, guys? Are people just like done with it and they're just like, bury me now? They don't wanna link up and they're not willing. They don't, I don't know. And do people still spend two months, two weeks, two months salary on an engagement ring? No, I don't know. I think people aren't even getting married anymore. How much was your wedding ring? My wedding ring was $0 because I never had one. How about you? My engagement ring was $0 as well because I never had one. I did get one later because I did have one, but I was proposed to, not once, but twice by two different men without a ring. Meh, meh. Meh, meh. But we still married them. This is a thing. Twice with two different guys. So, do you think there are statistics on that as well? Oh, that would, yes. Do you think maybe that's like a meaning they didn't wanna invest in us in the first place, but that resulted in our diversity? That's something we need to look into. We will get back to you. Anyway, so we're just feeling a little bit meh, meh about it all. We're in our 40s. We've been single for a couple of years. Responsibly date. Do the hinge thing. We do the wild, but we're kinda like, we're kinda single right now. Very single. To be fair, I'm actually single. I don't even know if I wanna be in a relationship. But, having said that. I don't really either, but I wouldn't mind a little sexy time, if you know what I mean. So, we just got back from a girl's trip to Whistler. If you haven't been there, please go and check it out. It is such a beautiful little spot. And what a party scene, too. Oh, well, I think the, again, look at the stats, I think the men's and women's ratio is like one. Which I don't mind. I don't mind. They're fantastic. I don't mind those odds. And furthermore, it's just a fun party place. It is an absolute hoot. But then, what was the other stat you told me about? The STI count in that town. Oh, yeah, I think the STI count is quite high. So, if you're gonna go and have fun, double bag it, you know what I mean? Bag it up.