Terrible Classic Jasons Lyric 3

The hosts of the Unemployment Line podcast discuss whether the movie "Jason's Lyric" falls into the category of "Terrible Classics." They mention other movies they have ranked and discuss the age of the actors in the film. They also talk about certain scenes in the movie that they found unrealistic or confusing. They debate whether the main character's love interest actually died or if she survived. They critique the bank robbery scene and question the involvement of one of the characters. And we're back right here on the Unemployment Line, Doc and Larry P talking about Terrible Classics, Jason's Lyric. And before we conclude the show, we will define if this movie falls into our category of Terrible Classics or Terrible Classics. I don't think we have a running list right now. We don't have a running list, but I got it in my head. I don't think we've ranked any. I've ranked one movie a classic. Actually, no, I've ranked two movies a classic. I think we've agreed on one. What was that? And that was The Best Man. That was a classic? Yeah. OK. I said that Love and Basketball was a classic. You said it was not. I feel like Love and Basketball is a... I think that was a terrible classic. And every other movie has either been terrible or a terrible classic. What did we do? Baby Boy, Players, Players Club. What did we do? Menace to Society. I think I made Menace to Society a classic. Menace to Society, you might have said that was a classic. OK, so I've done three a classic. But, you know, if y'all have other movie recommendations, because I did get some. What was the movie somebody told... I'll think about it. It'll come to me. But this was one of those movies that when I told somebody this was going to be a terrible classic, they were like, why? And that's another thing I was going to say. When it comes to when you talk about black classics, nobody really thinks about Jason's Lyric. But Jason's Lyric is like that movie on every black list. You talk about people like, when you see those listing, like... If you ain't seen these movies, you ain't going black. Jason's Lyric is on there. But a lot of people don't think about Jason's Lyric because, I guess, you know, I don't know. I don't know why. Maybe because it doesn't fall in the category of... Crooklyn was the recommendation. And my response was, I've never seen it. I've never seen Crooklyn either. So that was the movie that was recommended that we evaluate. But this was my second time watching Jason's Lyric. And I think that's the best time for... There's not many black classics or black quote unquote classics that I haven't seen. But the ones that I have seen or haven't seen enough for this show, it's always good to watch it because I'd be like, hmm. That's how I felt about Menace to Society. And that's how I felt about this. I've seen Jason's Lyric probably two other times. But both of those times were a minimum of 10 years ago. Speaking of a minimum of 10 years ago, what I wanted to bring up, and we were talking about this during the break. What happened with the way that people age? Because 25, Alan Payne is 25 when he's filming this movie, looks a lot older than the way that 25 looks now. I think I think that's another thing. Another thing with the black don't crack. Like the black didn't crack back then because they already was a little old. Yeah, yeah. Like you 25 and you looking like you 40. So by the time you 40, they were like, he looks the same. He looks like he was 25. Like, no, he looked 40 then. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of times I don't know. I don't know what was going on with that old school. Maybe it was crack. Maybe crack. Jada Pinkett is 22 when this movie is filmed. She looked like a real life 22 in this movie. Yeah. Alan Payne, the only person who looked like wild old. And I want to say this because I want to make sure I'm on record about this. And I'm saying this with all due respect. Hey, mama. When they do the flashbacks with her and Forrest Whitaker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So shout out to Gloria. You know, she took care of the Afro. The Afro was throwing me off. So I pay attention. No, no, no, no. Even Forrest Whitaker look young in this movie. Yeah. And I don't know how for how old Forrest Whitaker was when this movie was filmed. But it was young enough that his eyes were a little bit straighter. Are there anything in your notes that you want to make sure that you say as before we determine if this is terrible? So, you know, this entire movie, I was watching this movie and usually I can watch a movie and you know, maybe this movie was an hour and 59 minutes long, usually about a movie that long, about 45 minutes. And I can tell you what I'm going to rate this movie as. And maybe as the movie goes on, it would change my mind. Majority of this movie. I didn't know what I was going to rate it because I wasn't good. I wasn't like I said, I really ain't know what I was watching. I didn't know if I was watching the hood film. I didn't know if I was watching the love film, but I didn't know if I was going to give it terrible. I know if I was going to give it classic. I know if I was going to give a terrible classic, but by the time I got to the end, there were certain things that happened at the end of this movie. That made me say, okay, yeah, I've decided. And one of those things was as, as, as Alan Payne is racing to save quote unquote, either his brother or Jada, whichever way he thought he was saving. They get to a train track and the train is coming. I remember the train is coming. The doggone bars come down for the train and they like, Hey, you ain't going to run that. Don't run it, Like, you know, don't so that he realized he ain't gonna run it. So he stops his car. He gets out of his car and runs across the train track and barely makes it across the train track. And in my mind, I was thinking like, dude, you should have just drove. Like if you can run across it and barely make it running across it, then if you stayed in the car and kept driving, like you definitely would have made it. Like, I don't know like what type of dramatic like scene they was trying to set up, but, um, I had, um, I think that was the part. Hold on. Let me look at my notes because I really, I really, I really wrote this down and I'll let you know what part I was really like, all right, all right. Um, Oh, let's scroll down. And yep, that was the part. I say, man, this man got out the car to run across the train track. All right, that's it. And that's when I was like, I'm done. Then Jada Piggy got shot. And this is the part me and that we'll talk about this before we record it. Jada Piggy got shot on the right side of her body and supposedly died immediately. Like no bleeding. Now. No, you saw the blood in her back. It was blood on her back. But like, she, she got like, I was like, Oh man, he shot her in the heart. And then like, I'm watching this and I'm already touching myself. I'm like, I don't know. My heart's on the left side. She got shot on the right side and died immediately. Like, what'd he do? Shoot her in the lung. Even with a collapsed lung. Like you have to like gas for air, like for a little while. Right. But she just did. And then, and then you get, you get, you get further to it. You got, you got Alec paying, picking this girl up and walking in slow motion. Like, bro, like even if she had a chance to survive, like even if she ain't dead, she's just unconscious. And like she, she got a chance to survive. She dying in your arms. Cause this man is walking in slow motion. Third, the cops show up, right? The cops show up to the scene and there's this crime scene, blood everywhere, dead people. And this man comes carrying a dead person out. And the cops are just like, yeah, let him walk by. He ain't the person that did all the shooting. They don't know who shot anybody in there. So then they let this man just walk by and they walked towards out. You ain't going to stop this man for questioning. And then you're going to let other people walk into like what happened to closing off the crime scene because you let everybody else run inside. Look at the dead bodies and stuff. And this one cop, he just come and jumping in front of everybody, put his hands on, but stop here. Now stop here. Now you ain't stopping nobody like that. And why did Eddie Griffin already have a detailed account of everything? And he wasn't even there. Exactly. Joshua came over to, he shot him and him. And then he went upstairs and did himself like, wait, Eddie, how do you know all of this? You just got it like everybody else. So yeah, that whole series of events at the end, um, but did she die though? I don't know. That's, that's the other thing that's a little confusing to me. I had to, cause I'm watching a movie and I'm of the assumption that Jada Pinkett is deceased. And I'm under the assumption that she could have died that fast from getting shot on the right. So I'm like, maybe she did survive, but then they showed him on a bus at the end of the movie. And I'm thinking this is just one of them hallucinations. Maybe it's a dream. And I'm thinking too, because he got the, he got the, the, the crop plane flying over. And I'm like, Oh yeah, everything just perfectly happened at the end. But there is a school of thought that believes that no, she actually survived that shot. He got her over there to the paramedic and they were able to get her to recover. And then they wrote off the Dallas so that he can get a salary job because he no longer felt guilty because his brother had committed suicide. And his mama lost her job. And they never talked about her getting another job. What was his mama working at? She was working at the chicken spot that the bro that they got his brother a job at, but he got fired and she got fired on the same day because he stole $10 out of the register. Can we talk about the worst bank robbery of all time? Can we talk about why did he take his mask off? Like they try to make, this is what the movie shot to do. He, when he ran into the bank, he tried to like, I'm going to get more money. And then he takes his own ski mask off as if to reveal like, Oh God, that's Josh. Like we ain't already know that. My thing is who shows up to a bank robbery late and who shows up? It just walks in late. Like, like, you know, it's just, Hey, we good. Why did y'all were able to accomplish the goal of robbing this bank? Why did y'all involve Joshua in the first place? Trench had the man over here at the safe. You had the rent state brother over here. He's over to having them sing the national anthem. And then the other dude is over here gathering money. What did you need Joshua for in the first place? Just to include him in the movie. Then after you mess, after he messes everything up, y'all string this man up at the chop shop, torturing him and then let him go. Why did you let him go? Because as Alonzo once said, you and your brother, I'm going to F y'all real slow. Then Alonzo is at a public restroom in a park. And Alan Payne rolls up in here and just squabbles with this man. He's at a public restroom in a park. Ain't nobody seen this. Nobody went and jumped on this man. Like nobody does anything about this. Like make this make sense. Why? I just don't understand why y'all are dragging out like people like, you know, you're going to kill them. Why not just do it? And then the shower scene between Josh and his brother, Jason was like, bro, I got you. I got you. And then Josh, and I was like, what is happening here? Like, I think, I think the movie got to a point after, after, after the gospel festival. No, it's the Juneteenth festival, Juneteenth gospel fest. Yeah. So shout out the Juneteenth for being out here and cracking in 1994. Y'all was acting like it just came around after the Juneteenth gospel festival. I feel like the writers and everybody felt like, all right, y'all, we need to end this movie, but we, we need to like, they didn't know which direction or how to end it. And they just, that's just when everything in Jason's lyrics just went straight downhill. And also at the Juneteenth festival, again, why Eddie Griffin is the MVP of the movie. He's the one who's the conscious of the movie and reveals to us that Jason is the real villain because after Jason goes on, this is actually a hilarious scene. Um, Jason and Jada Pinkett are on the ride at the festival. Joshua pulls up drunk and decides, Hey, I'm going to get on the ride with y'all. And like, there's like no dialogue or anything, but you just see how mad they are at Joshua for just being drunk on his ride. And then Jason gets old, gets off and beats his brother up. And Eddie Griffin looks at him and says, man, you know, he messed up man. Eddie Griffin, the conscious of the movie and the comedic relief. That's part of the movie, man. He saved the film. Um, so yeah, with that being said, after watching the movie, don't you do it? Don't, don't do what? Don't you do it? I'm going to make this a terrible classic. Come on, Larry, Larry. And I'm gonna tell you what, Larry, I'm gonna tell you what, come on. The fact that I didn't know what was happening. There were certain parts. Like I said, this is the second time I watched this movie. There were certain parts where I was like, Oh shoot. You know what I'm saying? Like when I found out that Jason did kill, Jason, the one that killed his daddy, plot twist. And then when actual Josh did shoot Jada Pickett, like that shocked me too. So there was a couple of parts of this movie where I was like, all right, y'all good. Y'all got me there. Shock, shock. I can make it a classic. I can make it a classic. Will I ever watch Jason's lyric again? Maybe my old lady loves this movie. So, um, this is one of her favorite movies. So if I watch it again, it's cause she wants to see it. Um, I'm not watching it on my own as I talk through this and I think about things out loud. And I recognize that, um, we get a lot of Jada Pickett in this movie. And I also recognize that I can block out the amount of Alan Payne I got in this movie. And the fact that this movie actually did hold my attention. I didn't want to know what was going to happen. I can see it, man. It's a terrible classic. It is a terrible, but it's a classic. It's a definitely terrible movie, but I can, I can see how you can make it a classic. This is the exact definition of what we'd be talking about. It's a terrible classic. The movie's horrible. But if I watch it, but it's a classic. It's a classic movie. I was like, all right, cool. I can get down with Jason's lyric. But there's a certain part, like after I finished the movie, I just laughed. The movie went to credits and I just laughed and cut it off. I cut off, I closed my computer. I said, yeah. And I think that falls into the, the, the trauma of our community. When you view a drama as a comedy, if you watch this movie as a comedy and not as a drama, you will enjoy it a lot more. So when I, I, I challenge you, when you watch this again, don't watch it for the storyline, watch it for the comedy of it all. It's a very bad, because it is ridiculous, terribly bad, but it's a classic. So, and that is a great honor in this, in this room. It's the unemployment law. Unemployment law.