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The speaker begins by acknowledging that it has been a while since they last recorded a podcast with Amy. They mention a previous recording that was not aired due to technical issues. They express frustration with setting up the microphone and share their sadness over their pet bee's death. They discuss their discomfort with starting a podcast and not knowing what to talk about. They suggest discussing the problems in the world and finding ways to make a difference. They express anger at the high cost of living and low household income. They also criticize the difficulty faced by homeless individuals in finding a job and a home. They question the logic of the current system and suggest the idea of a universal income or basic resources for all. They mention the ability to trade instead of using money and refer to the concept of communism. Okay, so this is a little bit nerve-wracking today because it's been about two months since we've actually done a podcast on me and Amy. Yes. Yes, we actually did practice one a few months ago, but I hope Gabe is listening to this and he told us we weren't allowed to air it because it was too much of a mic test, wasn't it? But I think after our experience last time, Amy, maybe this is for the best. Yeah, I think we just chatted shit for about like half an hour. And it was the art of chatting shit as well. It wasn't no like, I wouldn't even know how to describe the podcast we did last time. Yeah, I don't even know. But anyway, we have just been, well, mainly me, but Amy a little bit, been sass for the last half an hour, nearly an hour, trying to get the fucking mic to work. And honestly, the anger I have in me, I don't know what type of podcast we're doing today, but there's a lot of fucking anger and sadness as we're, we'll throw in there. My bee died today. R.I.P. Colin. Why are you like a Rick version of like a sound effect machine? I'm like, I'm really fed up with my bee and you're like, R.I.P. in the house tonight. R.I.P. to the bee. I still feel really uncomfortable with this podcast, but I'm just going to throw that straight away. It's been a while, I'm not going to lie. And for some reason, I think I've mentioned this before, every time I've got to start a podcast, I don't know what the fuck to talk about. Like, not that I don't know, but try to structure a podcast before you start it. I find it very difficult. I'm like, do we wing it? Do we structure it? What do you think we should talk about today, Amy? I want you to take over a little bit. I think we should talk about how fucked up the world is and try and do something motivational, you know. So why don't we talk about how fucked up the world is, but then like, halfway through, we'll just be like, but this is how we can make a difference. Yeah, yeah. Motivation. Don't hit me, it's on love, because I feel like I'm in a care home. I feel real now. So, what are you angry at this week? I know I said I wasn't going to lay down, but I'm laying down. I'm angry this week with, so first of all, everyone's getting fucked up because of cost of living. Everyone fucking hates it. Why is the household income so low, but then rent for properties and buying a house and stuff is at its highest? It doesn't make any fucking sense. People aren't getting enough to live. Economically, like, lives aren't matching up. Literally. Like, people, like your grandma and that's like, back in my day, I paid 15 pence for my house. Somebody literally said that to me the other day, they were like, back in my day, it was a grand to buy a house, and I was like, that's not fair. It's like I sneeze and I've spent a grand, like, do you hear me? Not to say, also, side note, I sound like I've got a cold, but I haven't. I was just screaming a lot this weekend, so I've lost my voice. So, I don't know if it's sexy or, like, not. I either sound like, I've got a bit of, like, rasp to my voice. It's either sexy or I sound like I've been smoking for, like, 70 years. So, you know, we move. You're either, like, really sexy and mysterious. Yeah. Yeah, literally. I feel like I've totally got the Marge energy right now. I feel like it's working, though. Like, the other day when you came round and you tried to speak, you were literally like... So, you have gotten a massive improvement. You just sound a little bit like, you know, how you punch someone in the gut in a back alley, do you know what I mean? I mean, it's also the burr accent, I think. It doesn't help, do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I think I just ignored you in your face, so that was smart. I hear my mic's working. Does it look like it's working? I think it's working. Yeah, it is working. Yeah. Are you sure? You've got to be louder than me. My mic's loud for some reason. I can't tell who's which finger. Anyway, so, yeah, I think cluster living's quite an interesting one because I'm absolutely on my arsehole. Pre-Covid, I considered myself as quite wealthy. After Covid and the crisis and everything that's been going on, I may as well be back at the beginning. I cannot cope with... I don't know, I just think there's people... Like, I'm struggling and I'm managing. So, I just think, how are some people coping right now in Middlesbrough when they've got kids as well? I don't know, they're making less of an income. I absolutely think it's wild. I think another thing that's crazy that I think about a lot is how, like... So, homeless people, right, so they're literally... You need a job, like, to be able to get a house, right? You need money and income to be able to live. But then, how are you supposed to get a house? You need a home to get a job because, obviously, you need a contact number. You need a basis, yeah. But then you can't get a job without a home. But then you can't get a home without a job. Don't even get me started. So, how does that even make any fucking sense? I don't know, because this is a massive problem as well. And do you know what another big problem is with that? The fact that they have set wages for different ages. And I know that rhymes because I'm a fucking genius. But, like, why a 16-year-old could still need to go and get their own house, start making a living and be independent, but they're like, Oh, we're going to put you on £4.15 an hour. Like, what the fuck is that going to do? Like, literally. You couldn't even stay in a fucking hostel for that amount if you were 16. That's what I mean. None of the logics are logic-ing. No, that's what I mean. Because, also, you've got to think, like, yeah, it'd be alright if the 16-year-olds lived with their mum and dad, you know what I mean? And they had, like, a stable home. But what if that 16-year-old was homeless and had nothing? And then they're trying to live off £4. Like, you can't provide anything for yourself with that amount of money. Like, I think, like, I don't know. I've heard about this thing before where it's, like, universal. Like, how everyone should have the same income. Like, a universal income. I feel like I might have been discussing that with you, or I have discussed this, but saying, like, we should be all given, like, a basis of money. Or even, like, the resources our world has and how rich our world actually is. You'd think we would have a system where, especially considering we pay taxes, you'd think there'd be a system where we'd get given, like, our toiletries, we'd get given, like, your basic food, like, everything you'd need at a basic to live. And then if you want to live a better or extra life, then that's up to you. But as a basis, we should all, and I know some people counter-argue that we're being like, that's not possible, like, blah, blah, blah. How is it not possible to be given everyone a basis? Like, if they're paying everyone's dole anyway and things like that, how can they not just give every human being a certain, like, well, then they're not going to work hard, they're not going to do this. I would be more inclined to work and enjoy my life and work more if I didn't have those stressors, you know? Yeah. Because that's another thing, though, like, they say everyone got two grand. That was the basis. Like, yeah, fair enough, some people probably would just be happy with that and be like, you know what, I don't need to work, I can literally just live off this two grand. But I think it's not about just having two grand and that's it, like, you could have that two grand basis and then still decide that you want to own your own business or you want to go and do something, and then you'd earn more. But at least, even if you're at your lowest point, you wouldn't be struggling. I just think, like, in the world we live in now, there should, like, it should be something in place. I think especially with, and this is going into the conspiracies a little bit, but especially with the Tartarian times, where our societies, hundreds of generations ago, were meant to have electricity, you know, shelter, food. We were meant to have had all of those basic things so that the future generations could go into creative mode, go into play mode, discovery mode, scientific, all these things, like, we were meant to be able to have that space to grow as a society. Because our world has already learned how to have free electricity, how to get free food, how to have free shelter. We have the resources, but we have this fucking money game, which is, like, it's all transactional. It's not actually, like, I don't know, I just think it's mad that we live in a world where there is definitely the financial resources, and even just resources. We've discovered how to get these materials, these foods, like, these things. Why is that contributed through a transaction of money? Why is it not just contributed through society as a normal thing? Do you know what I mean? Like, if you look at it from a proper outside perspective, it's like, if they're capable, I know that people deserve to be paid for, like, all of these things come from work, they come from manual labour, but I don't understand, like, money is printed from a machine. Money isn't even real. Like, money is literally, technically, you're just trading, which, back in the day, they used to just trade things that they needed, like, oh, I've got this pear, but I want a banana. Oh, you've got a banana, swap me this pear. Well, this is where, like, when we did history in school, like, obviously, they're going about communism and stuff, and, like, in a sense, I completely agree with, like, people can back me if they want to, but I'm pretty sure communism is where you trade things, like, they do it in certain countries where you will trade instead of, like, money, and it makes more sense, because then the community looks after itself, and everyone gets, like, part of the cycle of, like, everyone does their manual bit of labour, but it benefits everyone as a whole, rather than, like, each other. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Well, like, on the note itself, like, the money itself, like, it literally has a little, in writing, it says, I promise, like, to pay, this is worth £20, like, so pretty much it doesn't even mean anything, it's just a promise that that is £20, so you can buy something for £20 with that. Do you know what I mean? So it is just trading. That's what I mean. That's why, like, I don't know, I feel like the world is becoming more digital now, like, especially with, like, cash and stuff like that, like, cash is losing value. Oh, don't even fucking let's go down this wormhole, because I can do a rant about cashless society all fucking day. The fucking fear I have gone on about for, like, the last six, seven, ten years of us going cashless, and now I, like, I don't know, I hate being that cliche of getting annoyed on Facebook, everyone's posting, like, save the cash, blah, blah, blah, and I'm like, it's too late. Like, it terrifies me, because everyone relies on Apple Pay, everyone relies on the bank cards, nobody wants to use cash anymore for some reason it's seen as, like, like, extra effort, and I'm like, oh my God, we are fucked once we go cashless, it is my biggest fear in society. Because you've got to think, with all being online, like, technology, people think it's reliable, but realistically it's not. Exactly, and, well, exactly, and this is my explanation of that unreliableness, is, like, it's the same as electric cars, if we all have electric cars, and blah, blah, blah, blah, they can turn them off, it's got a button that turns it off. If we go into a cashless society, something goes wrong with the internet, or, you know, the government decides to start a war, or another government decides to start a war on us, it's a lot easier to digitally hack people, and take away your bank account, whatever they want. Than literally rob you, in your home, for all your money and your cash. Another government, or our government, isn't just going to go individually for every house, and be like, we're taking all your money. It'd take a lot longer, than them being able to have that control, and just be like, boom, you know what I mean? I just, I don't like it at all. It's frustrating. I think we're already in another world war, to be honest, where it's just less quiet than what people think. Like, I think it's already happening, just digitally. Yeah, it's more discreet, than people realise. Right, I'm just going to actually pause for two seconds, to do a mic check, but it's fine, because I'm literally not going to talk, so I'm just going to pause this. So, we are back. I just wanted to do a little mic check, but we can carry on our rant now. And if you want to smoke a cigarette, yeah, so you may hear some sound effects, of some lighters, or some weed being smoked. So, yeah, I'm kind of just going to take over, while Yemi sets herself up there. I think a big part of the frustration, which a lot of people who listen to the podcast, will already know, is just the kind of shit, that we are often put up with as humans, on a day-to-day basis. Like, I used to say, as somebody who believes in conspiracies, that if all the shit, that the government does, starts affecting me, then I'll be more arsed, and I remember that turning point in COVID, where I was like, oh shit, this is actually affecting who I am. And I think it's magical. Honestly, COVID, I thought there was going to be, a fucking zombie apocalypse. I was preparing for the, I am still waiting for the zombie apocalypse. Vaccines, man. Every single person I know, who's got the vaccine, has had COVID. Every single person, who hasn't had the vaccine, hasn't had COVID. So how the fuck does that make sense? They're probably putting COVID, in the fucking, well they are. They're literally putting COVID in the vaccine. Well yeah, because that's how they cure you. They're like, oh yeah, have some COVID, and then you won't get COVID. That's another thing. Bro, I don't want COVID full stop. Why? That's another thing, that pisses me off though, is like the flu vaccine. 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