Episode 4- NBA Talk w Khiem

The conversation revolves around the upcoming NBA season and various topics related to it. They discuss teams that could have breakout seasons, rookie players to watch out for, and the dominance of international players in the NBA. They also talk about the impact of certain players on their respective teams and the challenges they may face. The conversation touches on the importance of staying focused and the potential consequences of not doing so. Overall, they express excitement for the upcoming season and the potential storylines and developments it may bring. I I I I Welcome back to another episode of full circle podcast as you already know I'm your host JP here to share my fun conversations and debates with the people closest to me and with me is the broski team Alright, yeah, so um with the NBA season approaching on October 24th, are you ready for that? Yeah Wait, so are you like a LeBron fan or you're a Laker fan definitely a LeBron fan Lakers Whatever he had on the jacket, but I'm a natural-born Laker fan. So we in Alliance right now for now But yeah, like tonight I think Green you should be breaking down some of the help, you know Some of the things that's going to be happening in the upcoming season. Um, a lot of trades happened already, you know Dane going to Milwaukee Yeah, I really got blindside to me They don't mean no morning awesome, yeah, but I think We're gonna dive into that. Oh, you know, we also want to talk about breakout seasons for a team I think there's some teams that are on the verge of like taking the next level step You know to be a contender instead of the same Same rotation because we always see in LeBron. Well, we see in curry. We're always seeing KD Kawai No, no Joker And I'm saying in the finals like these are the people that we're constantly seeing their teams. I've been trying to fight You know, I'm saying it came Personally, I think the things are a sleeper in the NBA right now I Definitely see them they able to do it again Long curry and LeBron's in the West That's how that's going and then Joker to like this No, I don't think there'll be no team is gonna come up and take the spot. I don't know. I think is Yeah, I think there's a lot of energy and arm and craze going on behind the Kings right now So, you know, that's just my personal thing, but we're also going to talk about some of the NBA debuts I think this season right now is like one of the most anticipated Seasons that's been in a long time because we have one one be Yama We got school Henderson Brandon Miller. I got a bunch of players that were actually paying attention You know franchise players I got one beyond was already Right weird With the honor She's gonna be good. But I think he's the hammer school Henderson. Definitely And you know, we're going to talk about you know rookie of the year Candidates and way too early predictions. I think I got one that might you know shake the room We don't get to it I promise you you know, so we just don't go through a few topics a few questions You know like how we normally do so and last but not least I think we want to touch based on like the international player dominance in the NBA like that emergence of like international players literally Like it's been a crazy conversation over the summer, especially I forgot that Olympian to do the runner he made that comment Definitely they I definitely keep you Marina's podcast and he's talking about everything then I go I it's natural players are definitely in the NBA doing anything Yeah So, you know with that being said, what are some of your thoughts from being young, right? What kind of impact do you think you'll have on spurs this year? Definitely have an impact on this Boy in me the plane got easy. Oh, I got trickled up one time Johnny Murray, right? They gave away that was bad, but oh, yeah, he's definitely I give him He's gonna average at least 21 and 10 or 21 They gonna give me a green light to do what he do. He's fine But all right, so what kind of impact so you think that he's gonna have a lot of say-so that what plays are made of how he's like the offense is running to him or Like do you think that he's gonna have to play under Popovich and they let pop of his kind of mentor and actually coaching? And I feel like he got More looser as you go by he let people get free reigns We had to have a player but I'm here a play like a on a pop of his type of side anyway Like so you know, he's gonna be fine. Um Definitely the office when you play to him a lot He got a mid-range and he's seven foot with a mid-range good, bro right, so he's definitely Definitely going through him for everything. I mean, I see it. I'm looking right now. We see a few players that they do have like Mmm, they got Osmond. He's he's an okay player Doug McDermott. He's a solid player. Um Yeah, it's a lot of Attitude contracts guys that are you know in and out the league. I would say like they got the Monty Graham Now that's a sleeper You know, oh but Still I don't know like I said, I thought I didn't want to do the whole team basketball think that's definitely positive type of play You know the fundamentals and everything and then see where that goes from there is every honor really do his thing Yeah, he's definitely over it everything going for him. Kelton Johnson. Not that neither Yeah, yeah, yeah a solid seven out of ten, maybe six point five This is his fourth year in the league. So yeah, he's averaging sixteen and a half Yeah, that's a solid like, you know a system answer Victor, you know somebody that he can kind of lean on for their points for me You know just like the offense throughout the games when he's struggling when he hits the rookie wall You know, I'm talking about Victor like he's gonna have to lean on Graham and tell you definitely he's gonna have to because He's a rookie in this, you know His peers on his level, you know rookies or sophomores are still need help you need to play against like people that's already Solidified and he plays cool Let me Yeah, he's a forward center So we gotta see him again Anthony Davis indeed, you know people like that to see if you really want to do something. I feel like if I get buckets over like Kevin Mooney, but like bonus Thing is And beat enough. Yeah, I don't see him. Really. They're gonna overpower him with their week. Yeah I feel like he's just gonna be like posing is when he first came to me. Actually, he can't put on too much weight He's way too tall Yeah, but then now it's like For me personally, he's a pick your poison kind of playing like you're super toy In the arms, but it's just like at the same time I can't give you like you need muscle mass and that's bad for your career Yeah, cuz if he has any muscle mass that's too much for him his body's gonna React to it. It's gonna break down. He's not gonna have as long as a game in the league I mean, I give them Six years definitely to see because anybody thought like Anthony Davis and everything was good up until about Yeah, like his last Season on a second to last season on New Orleans Yeah Bazinga same thing. They said he need to bulk up. He bolts up a little more to now He's more solid and everything like getting muscles. Not a problem. Are you getting muscles to just you know These people follow me anyway, but for his game, you know before he was first defense, right? Now, you know actually had these people playing defense on him at the top of the key So do you see all-star for him? Yeah, definitely If he started, yeah, they don't got nobody else. Oh On the also team I Mean every day was having a bad season. He can stop Well Joker You got they're gonna consider BAM they're gonna consider a B. No, no, we're Jackson. Well if they do that whole Picking thing like they do They're not gonna start I'm jacking they're not gonna start let me have like a Lot of average like 24 Yeah Yeah, definitely after that cuz like I said, you gotta be out doing Joker and be yet I'll do a B. Does he have to have a winning record? No, I Mean that's where they go. Everybody knows where they have no way to win the record But yeah, I don't think his impact is gonna be so much that they get winning record. So How long is a playoff? For them, yeah, what is it gonna take another player? Like no live no solidified star on that team like you can say when the is a star because what we've seen him do but Like I say, we don't really know. He's a rookie still So yeah, he's someone's a definite star his team to really sit here and do something help him out You know what? It's time to remind me of Right. Oh, oh, man Right, yeah On paper that team It is that Wait, he only played a third of Maybe not even third messing the third of the actual games. He's supposed to play So well, he come back to season two. We'll see how that go He's got to be focused on and on honesty. He has to stay focused, but his only mean no more post-offs He's stuck in a loop now. That's his fault. He has to remain focused on like for them to even Take him seriously anymore like at this point like this season. I don't even care if you make it to the playoffs finish this You're a bus they're gonna jack you as a bus you're gonna be up there with Greg over there Yeah, yeah that one said I think about it because he was we was watching him from high school we thought he was an ex-bron like They and we didn't even care The thing about it is and that's that's very true I think one way he got drafted is where it really and It really messed him up Here in New Orleans, so you're in New Orleans like this bear food and bear distractions what he was like 19 coming to the league You 19 making millions of dollars when you just wasn't like two years ago. You wasn't even touching it and then now I Can also then doors other shit no This money really went to his head like it went to his head that the fame went to his head like he wasn't ready And I think he wasn't mature enough. I don't know honestly. I don't know what the league is doing We're playing development, but clearly they wasn't doing a job I'm all the bridges and Kevin put a doodle beat up a girlfriend. There's a lot of shit. They don't Yeah, and that's the thing like they used to Who was our own? David Stern David Stern used to do investigations on like top players especially like you know, I want to say like especially players that are Well known that supposed to be like on the rise to superstardom. That's gonna be in the headlines It's gonna be in a public And I was just about to say that you get what I'm saying, but look Mello wasn't in no shit after that He wasn't in no shit Adam Silva at this point right now. I feel like he's giving players way too much We need to like don't get me wrong It's the whole thing with this whole young crowd and brain You gotta live with that but like nah, bro You gotta remember this is still a business and then you don't get mad When I make a business decision and you already emotionally tied to the city That's why you let them do that I Mean even if it's like you could let them do that but then you would that's why he couldn't even reprimand John Moran as bad as Like people thought he was gonna do You know I'm really only getting that because you don't get a chance because he's one of the last time they think one branch That's your father That's crazy Answers for 2006 But fever fever not so much Olympics now if he was for um, so I'm gonna ask you a Question pertaining to like if you had to build your own starting five To redeem and get us the gold for the Olympics to like put a stamp on it that USA is literally the creme de la creme You feel me? Like there's nobody stopping us. There's no argument about it These people Recruiting LeBron is accruing the Monstars right now I Put any money on it. They're going for gold and what? 2024 pursue. Yeah, I know once LeBron said he put a stamp on it. Everybody come up with works. You got LeBron. You got curry You got and be that was I go live Shut up and be for taking the u.s. To play for he had three teams to pick from he chose us Good looks on that one. You got LeBron curry KB and read and then for our fourth Hmm Yeah, you put you can put a DD or you can mess around and for a matter of fact now you put another car You put curry you be with a curry. You could potato. I think that the star body looking for right now is Tatum curry LeBron KB and B. Yeah that right there He sees international people in a mess with them. It's a five that no no international team is gonna be that's all right We got curry Potato LeBron Powerful KD Center and B All right. So my list is a little different So I got curry off and if anything, it's not curry. I'll go Westbrook Now what? Yeah, but we need him no, no is why I say that right hear me out Reason why we need Westbrook in that kind of situation He's familiar with the Olympics Right on top of that. He has a lot of basketball to play and he knows how to run a second unit He's been doing it for the last three seasons Right, that's what so that means No, but then even so like if curry if I can't pick curry right, I'm my strong second would be Westbrook because all my other guards in the league right now that are American and our top 10 are They can't really play defense like that They will point like that's in the league that plays defense If they are a top 10 caliber or you maybe three don't play defense maybe two Cuz if my smile for a second definitely carry my third job right you put in John Moran on an Olympic stage Don't even get buckets. No matter what If not, I love it not John Richard holiday He could do both he played Great to it. It's not about in defense. It's not but he's looking for a deep The best to me the best two-way point guard It's either him a winner not a little might go three steps. I'm like, yeah, okay I would rather Lillard cuz but drew drew Holly definitely the great two-way All right, so that's my point guard you said who fish on guard I Wanted one Jimmy, but see Jimmy play small forward But he can play the two Right, but his primary is small Bradley bill He gonna play a one two or three I Gotta hit it. Hey, that's all Benji Nothing crazy not surgery was Hell no, he was just playing He was just playing he was just playing Do anything a long time so I'm I can't pick it. He's a good He's a good bench He's a good play. He got a lot to prove and that's why I wouldn't want him to start. Yeah, you got a lot to prove Curry Booker LeBron Katie and D. That's that I go That's how that go You can't go wrong can't go wrong Bro, I made this team. That's why you first. Yeah All forward we agree with Katie Mind your business. I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you in my own time All right, cuz we gotta pace our way through this cuz you just can't do all right I'll pick Zion bench He's wild about the positive and the positive notes he's wild about that's like coming to bench But also we don't know that won't be able to play the extension You know you put a name on the thing I put that risk to take that little star next to the name we don't know No, no, no, no, no, no, you know that jacket You don't you can take a couple well Devin Booker himself Nothing crazy maybe low man's but remember the Olympics is not long games There's not a lot of games in that time in between so we don't even have to worry about and they got running clock, too So yeah, we could throw Zion in there We want to play And we're gonna punch them to like teams like that cuz I ain't gonna hold you Lithuania punching them Well, Russia is punching numbers to Yeah, you heard me sir. I get punched. Um double punch Yeah, so he gets like those teams that normally give us a problem. I worry I worry Yeah, and then from our Center I you said in B. Yeah, I agree what again if you think about the bench, bro I love you know, we come up to me. I'll take Dwight So I'm not even a no more. You know, no, no. No, I don't know. He has to be Nobody does it bro. He's a free agent This season is over I mean and he's he's actually live on his contract already with the project is done And he's a problem When he was in the bubble nobody got a joker it's better than him So why he can't put he's a great I'm not saying I wouldn't put him there I would take him over Regulation he can't Yeah for the Olympics Nah, it's just analytics with it and just I tell me I have enough No, 80 had a way better career. I mean do I had a way better career than 80 so far That's far We could really look at the numbers Okay, I'm just saying What do I have one too Mm-hmm And how many times has 80 been to the finals without Once Without LeBron, he beat LeBron to get to the finals To get smoked by you know, you know that was written in stone from the moment. They got to the playoffs My thing is a D never really had like a great team to get him that far. I don't know He's always he has a struggle be an AC and they get punched by the first seed So the best that's the best thing ad ever did other than when he was in the Lakers is when he took Golden State So I think what game seven Yeah, yeah Rondo. He had the Marcus cousins. Yeah Rondo and Rondo wasn't wrong That was before and the Lakers had Rondo and Rondo wasn't Rondo and he still won the Marine he helped him in a race 80 again, we're not talking about brother comparing 80 Well, that's like 20 cents yeah, but they have a place to him They Couldn't fuck with they couldn't fuck with the shooters and you know, they definitely shot them Yeah, and then you had to double Dwight. So one shoe was always open. So that's why LeBron. It was that was even LeBron's fault So not for nothing. Why not take Dwight? His career I'm telling you and his Olympic he has they both have a little bit experience Yeah, it's just 80 wasn't as relevant. That's one. He was a I didn't like that at all. I mean how and that's what used to happen before. They used to send rookies and College players to go play and that's the reason why they made the dream team But you see like that kind of mindset look where it got us over people we wouldn't even be having this conversation How do we really play? Oh They got punched and when I think Yeah, they had a Kobe a couple other players So it's the same thing. You tell me this we will lack will slack off and then the International players start talking too much to start feeling they sell too much And then we gotta come back and show them so the guns smack them back put them back in a place Then I hold you International people got good. I definitely up a comment definitely take a little bit skillful is it but I hold you I still didn't sit on Overpower the u.s. When it comes back to bullshit, right? Yeah, don't So, you know moving on T3 teams that you think need to level up this year I have to be But Yeah for us to start thinking about them being contenders so people have not contended yeah, they need level up too, yeah they do The Cavalier they disappointed me last year Sacramento I just had a sleeper Yeah, they Miami I am me Yeah, I like Miami. Yeah, they just you know, yeah, I think we got a That actually like cross the bridge. Yeah, I get right there. They can't do it. I understand why though They don't have enough like Yeah, they ran into the farm. Yeah, I'm crazy shit. Oh, yeah. I do have a topic I do have it so so, you know, even the road is just kind of crazy to be honest But Wookiee I disappointed me a couple for they are just playing two years Alright, who won last year? Don't one this year. Yeah Yeah, they lost they beat Miami Dude, they need the Celtics. Oh shit. Yeah. See Miami. Yeah, I step it up. I ain't gonna hold it down Miami Yeah, Miami got step it up Milwaukee. Yeah Yeah, I got the best people. I got the best team wallpaper Yeah, that's team on paper, but I asked fucking four or five years Anybody on that team because you have a great coach great GM president you have a great star So they just not producing, you know, you get everybody Phoenix Phoenix I want you to do something to I'm a kid. I can't win at the same time. No, I'm saying I want to see Phoenix. Yeah, I did good last year I want to see yeah, I want to see people If not Milwaukee notice Celtics here the Celtics too, but people that nice they're not contenders Well, I'm not casus casus contenders Not the way the tip though, but the playoffs. Yeah, so wasn't we? So for the calves, I personally feel like they got a for them to actually make the week they got to get to the conference one Get there You got to beat the Knicks Exactly That should be decided like So you get what I'm saying, but I got a few so oh Yeah, now this season is a clap his clip for them James Harden not playing hard. He's not he's not gonna play serious. You don't pull the same bullshit. He doing So So with that being said like They're gonna just might as well paint this season. They're trying their best to kiss his ass to get him to play serious He don't want to play with Yeah, but now they would need a lot They're requesting a lot to get give him up and a lot of teams don't want to do that We also got see his work for the past couple years Don't be able to get top dollar for honestly I wouldn't I wouldn't expect top dollar for James Harden to get rid of him, bro You already got the MVP on your team. Just give him a strong a James Harden at discount Yeah You know, well, um, so I say like the calves I'm Donovan Mitchell definitely has to get his guys more involved offensively That 71 point performance was great But you barely won I like garlic Yeah, but yeah, definitely I get more involved for sure like the coach got to learn a way to put all of them To do good and play like I think there's no culture Culture no team. There's no culture. There's no because what do we know the cows for? Oh, you're not even there anymore, he'll never go back No, he's not he's not retiring with the cows, oh, yeah, definitely Definitely He's not leaving especially because of Kobe, but we're not even Dropping into that boy. Yeah, we already know what's up with that and all of his money and business is out there and I like You know calves, I don't know I feel like they I Want to say better culture. I feel like the coach gotta actually make them play The correct way they don't play right for some reason. I really want some and the correct Okay, coach gives you the correct culture like when you got Pat, right? And you guys are Eric's posture. You already know that you're getting a coach that's gonna make every player Grind bro, like you know what you're getting out of that coach, you know, you know, Dan Tony is a whole bunch of running like You know I'm saying so it's just like they need some type of culture they need some type of identity I Don't even know. I mean, I would I mean I could find out but Not for nothing When it comes down to it the fact that we don't even know who the coach is That's why they really do play everything to Stop initially. He'd be going for whatever you want. It sucks. He takes at least seven And that's crazy. That wasn't him, but he's gonna be coming to shoot it. Um Yeah, I really feel like that's what it is. I they just need a Like they do really need like a coach that really want to really sit down and put it in basketball Yeah, we got these players you have to do what y'all want now, I need to be so the fuck damn listen to this Like only gonna run the offense if he is a great point guard He ain't in your bucket Now I'm a Mitchell you are the person that you are gonna run the ball through you But just know this is how this is gonna go. So you got two big men. Jared Allen has Mowgli dumb niggas Do a great job down there And who's y'all who's y'all for? Yeah, I really thought I really thought What's the mix No, he's on the Who's that What I got careful vert, yeah, it's careful vert could do good, too I'm really happy for Sharif Cooper Yeah I'm happy to have you got another shooter max show I feel like they should they could go a little it won't go Where they went last year? They went there for five or six three Yeah, it was it was six or is three. They lost a fucking mix. Yeah Your team is not going But my boy got a black guy for media day, that's crazy That's crazy, but yeah, as far as the cows are concerned They got a you know, but Donovan Mitchell in my eyes has to get a team one rule. They have to get culture Promise them but they're not gonna get many shots with the way that Donovan Mitchell plays You see they're not gonna get that me You know He knows he got free reign and the coach don't be enough he goes for 50 And mind you I don't and the thing about it is I don't think he wanted that But he feels like he has to do it because that's what the coach is telling him to do You ran the team but y'all was structured on Utah Let's out and it's like you want your team. There's nobody in your caliber So you know you get that whole thing you could do the fucking one the way I'm saying, right? You know, I do want to see the Clippers It's the last year they got Last but not least I would have to say like the Rockets Um, I feel like they got to put their money where their mouth is. They put a lot of money on players and cards They gave Dylan Brooks the bag barren fancy the bag But if we kind of deserves that I told you but on the Houston Rockets, that's why you deserve it, too Yeah, they just did that to care to class catch me if I was him I would never went there, but he went there for the bread because nobody's was giving him that I play any team could have dealt with him Dylan Brooks belong and fucking Shanghai Trash In all honesty, but he's probably better than me, but he's still trash And he's problematic he don't play basketball Yeah, his way of defense is not it um But before we wrap up this episode because we are kind of you know going through time, you know As these conversations these barbershop conversations, I'm like, oh Just kind of go through. Um Too early prediction who you see what two teams you see going to the finals right now Like I said, I'm what to make this ago, but you gotta be realistic. I play either Denver Now if you go to say, oh, no, it doesn't again Oh Yeah, Milwaukee and that damn trade I think we're gonna dive into that the next episode, but I'm definitely I think I'm gonna agree with I'm gonna agree with that. I think Milwaukee and Is going to the finals with the West it's kind of a toss-up between the Lakers Denver Depending on how the Lakers deal with Denver throughout the season It's a toss-up between them two because they're both equally great. I think beverage has got the better of them that season They imploded but now we have a more solid team, um, so I feel like they have an opportunity to go to the finals Oh Yeah, I think on KCP is still there Yeah, they got a few new guys, but you know, we'll see what happens. I think they lost development be too Yeah, he's on Dallas So, um, yeah, you know, we're just gonna kind of try to wrap this up. So I'm gonna say Uh between the Lakers Denver on the West on the East Philly or Milwaukee That's my that's my take Well, um, you know, thank you guys for listening and tuning in. Make sure you catch us on Apple podcast Follow me on Instagram at the best to do it underscore and like my bro. Keane said follow him on Instagram at Watch underscore W a TTS All right you know and um, you know, make sure y'all tune in for the next episode and You will have more information and updates about the season or sports talk Even get into other conversations. So make sure y'all stay tuned