Nick part 2 - 27:03:2024, 21.44

The speaker discusses their girlfriend's diet as a runner, including the foods she eats for breakfast and dinner. They mention the importance of protein for runners and share their own preference for pancakes. They also talk about the use of supplements, particularly creatine, and the need for individualized advice. The speaker expresses skepticism about relying solely on studies and emphasizes the importance of real-life practical experiences. They conclude by stating their belief in hard work and proper nutrition as the key to success, rather than relying on supplements. So, my girlfriend is a runner, right? So, I live with one and just on the nutrition side. I think this is similar for a lot of runners. Their diet is just really funny, I find. So, every single morning, there'll be a bagel, there'll be peanut butter and there'll be a banana. Then there'll be some beetroot juice flowing around because obviously that does something. I don't know what, but apparently beetroot juice is a must of some kind of... Sponsored by beetroot juice. Yeah, so it helps with something or other. I don't know, but it's a must. Then, as you say, not really much food going on in there, but you always need to get the protein in. It's very focused on protein. Then there'll be some carb-y dinner just because we've run loads and we want to just pig out, basically. I think from what she says, her friends are very similar, especially the morning routine as well. It's the bagel with the peanut butter. That's so funny. They all do that. Yeah. There's loads of runners that do this bagel peanut butter. It's weird, right? I don't know who started it. What subliminal bagel messaging has been out there? I don't know, but I quite like it now. Watch out, now you start running. Bloody hell. You'll get the fuel source. Yeah, exactly. No, yeah, the... Actually, it's not bad. It's not a bad breakfast. I just joke about it because I hear so many people eat the same shit, but I bet you some Insta person has done that, a runner. People have been like, oh, that must be the best thing for breakfast for my running. It's not. It's just some carbohydrates and some fat. It's just some calories, really. At the end of the day, they just try to get in quickly and something that they can digest quite easily before they go and do their run. You could have, I don't know, you could just have a banana that's dipped in some peanut butter and some Nutella or something that just is quick and easy to get in. I would prefer pancakes. Is that bad? No. Carbohydrates, I can probably have the same amount as in a bagel and put some, I don't know, peanut butter or some maple syrup on mine and probably still be all right. Am I going to put on fat? No, but I can have that. Then, yeah, but look, the protein thing is quite important, too, because I feel that can be missed. Runners, either they are under eating or they are over consuming carbohydrates and not having enough protein, which we know is essential for muscle recovery, protein synthesis, and just, well, recovery of the body in general has got a lot of roles, right? It's important they get a lot of protein in, too. I'm just going to use your girlfriend as an example. You said she has protein at breakfast, too? Yeah, we've recently got this protein granola and then there's also some protein flapjacks knocking around, which are in bar form, and then at one point there was shakes going around, but it's more the proper food style. Oh, good. Yeah, so we've veered away from all the supplement stuff. I have got her into creatine recently. Oh, nice. Just because she was a bit scared about it at first. She's like, oh, what's this white powder? I don't know, it's hard to go over there, but she's taken it. All of a sudden, she said she got a new PD the other day and she said creatine is working for her. So, yeah, it's mostly like proper foods now. I mean, I try not to now be this guy who's like, starting to show that. I'll debate you about that in a sec, but with creatine, I mean, it has been shown there is some good evidence to show that it does have really good performance enhancing qualities across a lot of different things. So, yeah, for runners, it's great to use. People who want to get a little bit of muscle, great to use. It's also just great for recovery in general for people, so it is a good thing to have. Yeah, I just don't like the, you know, I've started to steer away from this like, yeah, this is only showing this because like, I'd like some of it, but I feel like now I have to listen to more people's anecdotal practice and experimentation with things. I find that a lot more useful to use in a more real-life practical setting as opposed to being like, we tested four people in a gym that lived there for six weeks and didn't do anything else. I don't want to do that. I think that comes, that's a really good point. I worry about using anecdotes too much because it's kind of, obviously, you're then relying on a degree of individual variability, but the problem is, as I say, over-reliance on talking about studies. There's now been so many studies that you can almost find a study to back whatever your preconception and bias is. And as you said, the issue for me is people will send me stuff and they'll send me some shitty articles and they'll say, this study shows. And what I do and encourage people to do is click on that study and look at how many people are you making a conclusion out of four people. And it's fine. I found what I wanted to find. Let's publish that. Or is this like a huge meta-analysis study over multiple years with multiple participants? And I think that the problem is with the whole kind of clickbait type world of like, we're just going to tell you about this study. We're not going to explain anything about what was done in it, how the procedure was done, but it shows me what I want to show. So I can see where you're coming from. I prefer it if someone was like, with my client base, I've used this sort of style of program or I've implemented like some plyometrics into their training program and have noticed that or have found results in their testing that shows that they have improved this X, Y, Z. And I'll be like, okay, cool. This guy's actually telling me he's done it with a group of people as opposed to, yeah. Like you said, you have to look in the study a bit more. When you hear people talk, it's just more on Instagram when people talk about it. I think that's more what it is for me that fucks me off. It's just like, people are like, oh, yeah, this guy showed this. And you're like, yeah, man. Like you say, did you even look at it? And you're just using it to back your opinion. And in most cases, there is just evidence to show the actual, the reverse, right? So yeah, that's all, man. That's all I just want to say. I just get a bit upset about it. Because like, it's true. Even in like nutrition, we talk about that. There's loads of studies that like sugar companies can fund and participate in and fund the studies. That's probably the biggest one, right? Has funded it, like, yeah, they've been done at a university with no biases, with like a PhD student and some master's students. They're actually normally the best study because there's like, the person just wants a good grade. And they want to find the best information they can, write up the best thing. They don't have any thing. They don't, they're not trying to sell anything. They don't, the outcome of the studies are relevant to their mark. They just need to be able to analyse it. So often they're the studies where you go, they're good. Yeah. That's what I find. We've really bored you, Scott, haven't we, sir? Supplements. Moving on. I know. Thoughts. Yeah. I'm... Just because we touched on creating there. You like it. So I don't mind that. I don't push any supplements at all. Again, I have someone that I probably refer out to get them to give professional guidance with it because everybody is different. I wouldn't want anyone to waste money on things that they don't need. Yeah. And I'm a big believer in everybody needs different things. I do believe that maybe something like vitamin D would be, yeah, because this country is lacking a lot of that. So yeah, people who live in the UK might be worth getting some sort of vitamin D supplement. It tastes like, yeah. I just, I still, I've said it to you. I probably say it to you every week. I see why you moved from Australia to here to get no vitamin D. Anyway, that's besides the point. Yeah. Look, it's your choice, Nick, to be here and not be getting any vitamin D. And I'm fighting to stay here as well, which is another thing. I don't know why, you know, I don't know why. To buy vitamin D supplements and you could just be at home. Just be getting it for the living. Yeah. But anyway, we carry on. So no, with supplements, I'm not a big pusher of them. Like I said, I think it's better if you actually have some testing done, have a nutritionist or a dietician, see what your current diet is like, maybe have some blood work done and just see where you're deficient, see where you can, the things you need to increase. Yeah. I just, I'm just not, I've been conned myself into buying some stuff. And then after I felt taken a bit of like advantage of, and it's by a personal trainer as well. Somebody like, when I was young, I looked up to her, I was like trying to seek help from, and they were like, yeah, you need to buy this, this and this, use my code. And I was like, awesome. Like 50% off. Yeah. I was like, wait, guys, look, I got my friend's code. I got the discount. I bought all these supplements. Yeah. I just like to push what I know, which is strength conditioning, you know, and leave the other things to the other expert. I personally think, again, this is just my opinion. Often when people start asking too much about supplements, they want the easy route out of something. They want to cheat the system. They think there's a magic pill rather than no fucking get in the gym three times a week, do your hour session, work hard, have a good, you know, have good protein. I'm the same as you, vitamin D and creatine are probably the only things that I will say. And as I said, I'm not a nutritionist or dietitian. I've got background in these things, but go, you know what, generally they're the things I say and get enough protein in. You know what it is as well. Like you say, most people that ask that question, they're either trying to cheat or find a way out. But if we look deep into their, what do you mean deep? If we just got them to write out what they were eating for the like previous three or four days, I could pick it straight away. Maybe three things to be like, okay, if you change this, this and this, you probably wouldn't need any supplements, probably just like eat a little bit better. You know, like from your girlfriend's eating, I'm not trying to shame her, but it was shit, no, I'm joking. It was bad. It sounds like she's lacking some vegetables and fruit and those sorts of things, right? She's gone like carbohydrate, protein. Great. But we also need a lot of other things, right? A lot of other vitamins and minerals to assist with the body. So yeah, to be like, oh, I'm just going to have like six different tablets of different vitamins. Do we need to have that if we're eating well enough? Probably not. Yeah. That's a good answer. So I don't know if it's the same for you guys, but more recently, when I'm like on Instagram, whatever, I see a lot more people kind of pushing using machines over maybe free weights and stuff like that. I think, I know this is going to be a controversial and I'm interested in it because I've now started using more machines. And when I was younger, I was always about dumbbells and I love it, but now I'm like, oh, I'm getting a bit older and I feel like, oh, I want to avoid any injuries. So I'm going to stick to my machines. And I kind of like it because I think it's a bit easier, but I'd like to hear what you guys think of it, like about. I think you're going to have the shit kicked out of you by someone. Look, I have a couple of things come to mind with this. First one is on Instagram, people love to just be controversial to like, look cool and to get some fucking clickbait and likes, right? The amount of things my coach friend sent to me who are not fitness savvy, be like, oh, this coach said that this is great. What do you think? And I'm like, oh my God, no, he's just done that because he wants people like you who don't know what the fuck they're doing to follow him and like it and be like, that's amazing. So the training and the way that we approach like different training methods and programming really hasn't changed that much. There are some things that have changed, but it's not changed so much that like there are things that are like so much better than others and it just doesn't, it's not how it works. Everything has its place. Do I think machines are better than free weights or free weights better than machines? I don't think they're better than each other. I think depending on where you're at, depending on what you're trying to train for, whatever the goal or the outcome is, that factors into what exercise you're going to choose and why, right? I don't like people who just go in and just do machine work. I think it's not great. I think it's better than nothing, but I don't think it's great. I think we need to enhance more just general movement patterns and just be comfortable with being able to deal with just body weight, your own general body weight and not be fixed in a one plane movement with a machine. And that's the main negative, I guess. Yeah, that's the main negative, but it's not to say that you shouldn't do machines. There's some people who are like, you say now people think machines are better than, or people say that on Instagram. There's also people on Instagram who are like, you have to do functional training and don't ever touch a machine. Mate, we need these machines for some things. A leg extension has so many good uses for people who have come out of a surgery, people who are coming back from an injury. We can load people in different areas. Eccentrically, we can load someone on a machine much easier than we can with free weights and a barbell, right? So there's so many benefits of each, but yeah, I'm not, again, I stay impartial to it and being like, they each have their own place. You just have to know when is the right time to use it. And it might be good if you're only using machines to go and seek some guidance and be shown how to maybe do some more functional or just general movement pattern work, and then go back to using some machines or mix in both. What do you think? I'm going to be less impartial than that, I think. I think if you're injured, you make a really good point. From an injury standpoint, when you want to isolate a specific muscle group that's potentially weak and you test it and you're like, you're weak in this particular movement, we can isolate that on a machine. Fantastic. And you get some great results with that because you can, let's say somebody's got a stress fracture. Instead of them being weight-bearing, we can offload them and we can get their quads strong, but without putting loads through their tibia, for example. Away from injury, I'm a much bigger advocate of free weights for runners. And again, I think you made the point, it depends what your specific goals are. If you just want to get bigger, you just want to get jacked and you want to isolate muscle groups, machines can absolutely do their job there and they have their place, absolutely. But just to me, with the runner side of things, running is a weight-bearing sport. Running requires you to master your relationship with gravity. So if all the strength training you're doing is sat, you're not challenging your balance system, your range relationship of this muscle needs to fire while I'm squatting up and down on one leg, for example. And then that brings me into another point, which is probably a much longer point, about runners not doing enough one-sided track. They like squats and deadlifts, which are great as well, they have their place, but you run on one leg. You swap legs repeatedly. So if you've got no single leg control and you can sit and let the leg press, oh, I do single leg leg press, but yeah, but you're sat, gravity is not challenging you. So if we're going from a runner standpoint, I'm a much, personally, much bigger advocate of when you're not injured, free weights needs to be part of your S&C. For sure. I think if you see these, I don't know, like these bodybuilder type people in the gym, you would never see them on a treadmill or running, right? Hardly ever. Unless they're like a crossfit sort of dude, but the ones that are just like jacked, just meat muscle sort of like to a slight, and so they just love pumping weights. If you said, all right, let's go run, let's just see how you run, I wouldn't be surprised if they just fell over as soon as they tried to get to as fast as they could, because they just can't keep them. They just don't know how to run properly. And secondly, everything would just be so weird for them. They wouldn't be able to actually run properly. Like they just would look all over the place and be terrible. So yeah, that's just like Dave's point. For runners, I think just steering away from machine work and just doing the more bodyweight style, functional, I'm going to say training. I hate that phrase as well, but I get it. Yeah, it's probably better and would yield better results, be more transferable to what they do. And it's probably for any team sport, like any sport really, like a football or a basketball player, tennis. There is some use in using machines, but the biggest transferable adaptations they're going to have are if they do things more like on the floor with just some weights and just moving their body, having to deal with instability, having to deal with coordination. Do you deal with much with running form? Because I know like everyone runs, like some people run really weirdly. Oh mate, who was I with the other day? I think I was with my girlfriend and we were just like, yeah, we were walking in the park. Is it Clissold Park? You can't say that. No, it's New Finsbury Park. I don't know what it's bloody called. Anyway, some bloody park. Who knows? It wasn't Clapham, so I don't know. It's in what you call the ends. You know, north of the river. Anyway, some park, New Finsbury Park, and we were just walking and it was sort of a nice day. Loads of runners around and every time I was like, oh my God, that person's running shit. And she was like, what? And I was like, nothing. But yeah, the amount of people you see, how are you still running? Like how have you made it this far? It is like actual inefficiencies as well, isn't it? Why? Why are you? If you could describe a good full man, what would it be? Just because it's like, I guess when you don't really look at it. Okay, I'll give you like different examples, right? So again, another thing, why steer clear of like textbook sort of study-based coaching and training. I've done loads of different courses and learned from different coaches who have different methodologies and different ways of teaching sort of running mechanics and those sorts of things, right? The funniest thing is loads of these guys who do like speed stuff and try and coach running, they'll try and use Usain Bolt as like an example, right? And the funniest thing is this guy doesn't run the way that we are supposed to be coaching sprinting and running mechanics. This guy runs in a different, he just runs differently, but he's the best runner there ever was. So how then can I, like that's my questioning is like, okay, well, you know, we can teach someone to some extent, but there are some people that just have their own, we have to let some natural and yeah, just natural running style come out of this person. Everybody's going to run a little bit differently. Another example is two different players, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, right? Again, Cristiano Ronaldo, the guy doesn't run at all like what we would coach speed mechanics to be like, but the guy's rapid, right? And he's, he's pretty quick. It's not like, oh, we're going to race him, you know? So it just, it really depends. I think it is, I think we can clean up running styles, but I don't like to go too deep into like really changing someone's running style. I don't know if you feel the same way. And it's one of those where, you know, you can, again, another example from football, Eden has our ex-Chelsea player, you know, at the time was one of the best players in the Premier League. Really weird running game, like in-towing and people be like, he's the quickest, objectively the quickest. And also Raheem Sterling, another odd runner. But like, if you try, again, I keep coming from it, you're probably more a performance aspect from a more injury aspect. Unless there's a running style that might be causing injury. But also if we try and change someone's running style, conversely, if we try and change someone's running style too much, too quickly, for no reason, we can cause injury, suddenly loading joints and areas of the body that haven't been used to that for years. And now we go, oh, you're running wrong. Oh, it's like, you know, we come back to that age of like a good posture, bad posture, you're running wrong. Let's change that. Suddenly you're causing someone issues that never even existed. So yeah, I guess that's my take on it. Yeah. It's like you say, unless it's not broke, don't fix it. You know what I mean? That's the best application you can have, I think, to that sort of topic. But as well, I think even if I saw someone running like, I can't say this. Even if I saw someone running very poorly, if I saw someone running really, very, very poorly, my first thing would be like, okay, let's test everything else before I would go to change their running style. If they didn't have any injuries, the friend is presented with no injuries. And I was like, okay, just show me how you run. And they were like, interesting. Let's just see how your strength is and see what you're like. If those are all good, I mean, keep making a fool of yourself. But yeah, if they were injured, then definitely I would look at changing something. But yeah, there's not, I think there's basic stuff that you can change in running. Make small little changes and have pretty good, nice outcomes. You don't have to spend loads of time and make loads and loads and loads of changes. What are those small changes? So I would say foot contact with the floor is probably one of them. Well, yeah. Frontside and backside mechanics. So the way that they move and step in front of them and then the way they pull their feet back, that's frontside and backside mechanics. So really want to see that it's not just short and choppy, which a lot of runners run lazy. They run with low knees and the feet just skimming across the floor, which I don't really like, probably Dave doesn't really like. It's not a really good running style. It is quite shitty for the body. So I try and change that if I can and if I know it's not going to cause too much trouble. So just doing stuff like I say, just imagine you have a hurdle in the middle of your chin coming out and you've just got to pick your foot up over that hurdle. And it just encourages a little more like lifting of the foot. That as well as like, again, with the knee. So if I can pick the heel up and then I just say, try and just think about what we do, like a high knee drill, you know, when you do a warm-up high knees. Think something like that, where you're just lifting the knee up a little bit and then I can pick their foot up and I can change it from short and sharp to a little bit more like lifting, picking the feet up. Something small like that and with foot contact, when they start to do those things, the other bad habits usually start to fix themselves when they make small little changes anyway. I don't know if you find that. Like if you make a small little change or if you ask someone to focus on doing one or two things, the other like three or four that have been shit, they usually fix themselves up. Again, it's coaching in general and certain people respond to different cues. But if you try and overcoach, you know, say, hi Scott, keep your chest up, look up, make sure your arm is going in a straight line, don't let your feet turn out, blah, blah, blah. Gone. Gone, right. It needs to be maybe one or two little cues and someone might respond well to one and not to another, like individual variability, but it's like often you'll say one or two things, you know, picking chest up, like often in lifting and stuff, obviously that idea of dead lifting, pulling your chest up, which fixes other bits and pieces rather than like can't tell somebody, right, these 10 things are what you're going to focus on every step you take in that 5,000 step. The other thing is if I coach to make a change of a running technique or running style, you have to allow, like they have to then go and make that change in practice in a, first of all, in a lower intensity and slower running tempo than they would like at race day pace, because to instill this pattern, we need to like slow it down and ingrain it slowly and then start to implement it at a faster speed, yeah. If we just go, okay, I taught you how to like pick your feet up, now just go sprint or now just like run at your full pace and try and do it, most people will not be able to, because you can't think of that many, like it's the same sort of principle of being able to deal with all the cues at once. If you're trying to think about your breathing, slowing your heart rate down and then picking up your heels, lifting your knees up, making sure that your foot strike is, it's too much, yeah, it's too much, so give them less to think about and then make a change in a controlled setting, maybe on a treadmill and a slow speed and just like try to practice that over a couple of weeks and then go out on the park, do your normal runs and then it'll probably filter itself in, but yeah, I'm not too crash hot and just like changing everybody's running style, yeah. Yeah, I've got another question on the training for, getting back to training for a marathon, I've heard that running slowly and for a longer distance is potentially you get more bang for your buck by doing that rather than just going all out fast, is there something in that or is that? Yeah, I don't think that is the case, like I don't think that is, it's not that, it's not that if you run slower and longer you get more out of it, we're training different qualities, like aerobically your cardiovascular system, like okay, let's dumb it down, if you are running for longer, right, and being able to, in comparison to running shorter, let's say you ran for two hours instead of one hour, you're training your cardiovascular system to be able to like run for that long, yeah, so you have an adaptation to be able to run for longer times, yeah. If you ran shorter but faster, you can train to improve speed qualities, you can improve your ability to run quicker, right, so they both have different things that we're trying to train, yeah, I think we can get caught up in trying to run too fast, too hard in our runs throughout the week and yeah, then you're not able to build on these like longer aerobic qualities, so like I do think that there is something in that argument that yeah, I think a lot of people are missing these longer, slower runs, I really do, I think that builds a good base as well as it builds your body's ability to tolerate the load, which we know we need, you can't go from running 10k's to a marathon, I'm a testament to that, it sucks, I would never advise you to do that, all of the advice from this man is sound advice and I'm the same with my own injuries, tell Scott your training progression from never running, I, everything I've just spoken about is just actually me, no, I was like Billy Big Bollocks coming into this marathon, right, so I went to run a marathon with Josh, wasn't it, in Ireland, in Newry and I was like, mate, this guy's running 76, one every day, I can run one, like come on, he's not even that good, so, shit haircut, so I was like, right, I can do it and I'm like quite generally fit, long, like actual just running on, so just continuous running, the most I've done was like 10k's or 12k's max, ever, just continuous running, yeah, even you're like, that's pretty great, but I, at that time, I was doing a lot of like interval training, a lot of sports, so I was like, I'm sweet, I've got the like load underneath me, so I was like, yeah, I can do it, anyway, get to bloody Ireland, mind you, it was like fucking snowing so hard and there was ice and snow everywhere and I thought, right, this is really going to be tough, like with the snow, we start running, we're halfway in and we stopped and I'm like, it's not too bad and as soon as we stopped, then my legs just, and I was like just limping around and Josh was like, have we got another, and I was like, 20 something k to go and I was like, oh, awesome, he dragged me pretty much. You finished it, fair play. So the last like 10k was awful, like I was breaking down to the point where I, he, you cried. No, I didn't cry, my marathon, whatever he was, was ending up, he was early days, but still, yeah, he was like 12, 13 marathons in, he wasn't even really, yeah, he's soft, so he was helping me, I had to say to him like, Josh, I need you to push through, he's like, nah, no worries mate, he was getting his phone out, playing music for me, he was singing to me, he was doing everything he could, he was sweet, he was fine, I was the one in trouble and I hadn't even run like, I hadn't even run one marathon, he was already at like 12. Anyway, but yeah, point being, I, yeah, just taking for granted the training, I was like, oh yeah, I literally think that brings us really nicely full circle to basically what we said at the start of like, training has to be specific for your goal, you know, yeah, you were fit, you know, in terms of sprint training and shorter distances and good times, but it's that, you're missing those long, those long slow runs, but you've got to have a little, you've got to have variation in your training, you've got to do the strength training, you've got to do those longer slow runs and then you've got to do a bit of speed work, we've got different types of muscle fibers and we need to work them all in different ways. There's no key codes to this, basically. There isn't, unfortunately. Yeah, there isn't. It's just other than this protein code. I was on a drop that day. I was like, I'm letting you buy my training program. And right, I think, I mean, mate, thank you so much for coming on. Genuinely, I think we'll keep doing this for another couple of hours. You might not be able to, but I'm enjoying listening to it. I want to, quick couple of things. I'm going to give you a clickbait question. I hate clickbait questions, but I just want to compare answers, I guess. If you were to give, and there's never, I know all the caveats, there's no, you can't give generalized advice and blah, blah, blah. If there were three things, three exercises that runners overlook, not necessarily that they should do, but you find that people don't do, or a couple, it doesn't have to be three. What are the general things that you find is overlooked? Is overlooked? Not the three exercises to get you running, but what do people forget about? Okay. I'm going to say that the execution of the exercise is actually the problem. Okay. Right? So that would be my overall thing. Most people, not most people, people who do the strength training in the gym are picking the right exercises, doing a split squat, they're doing their calf raises, but they're doing them shit. That's the fucking problem, is just do them better, slow the movement down, actually concentrate on what you're doing. Don't just rush through it. Try and go through a full range of movement through these movements that you're doing, and think about adding loads. The messages would be, yeah, I'm sorry I didn't answer your question fully with the exercise, but it would be like actually execute the movement with some intention and some intensity. So like do it, make it difficult for yourself, actually push yourself. The second thing would be take yourself through full range of those exercises. Yeah. And the third one, I'm sorry, I've ruined everything. Sorry. Go. Do you want me to repeat those, mate? The first one... That was good as well. We will be able to edit it. Just go from the third one. So, the second one was just making sure that you're going through full range of the movement that you're choosing to do, split squats, deadlifts, RDLs, make sure you're going full range, try and push as much as you can. And then, what was the third one? You've messed me up, mate. But the third one, just fucking do it. So yeah, then just load properly. Just execute it with some actual intentions like lift heavy and to progress. If you've been lifting a 10 kilo bar belt in a squat position for three years, maybe just put some two and a half kilo plates either side. You know what I mean? Make it a little bit harder for yourself and build some adaptation. That's how you're going to get better. I think that's the answer to change it. No, no, no. I like that answer. I thought you were going to ask me who's my favorite influencer or something. Who's your favorite influencer? Hasbro. Do you have any really quick fire questions? No. Fine. I think we've got a little tradition. You don't have to play. I'm kind of setting you up on this. Obviously, Scott lives in the finance world and he's one of the most boring people I've ever met. You've come and answered some questions and we've grilled you. Do you have any finance questions to grill into Scott? Some finance questions. So I'm not going to ask you what's the best investment to make. You must get loads of crypto. I can try and answer that. I've got an answer for it just because I get it all the time. But yeah, carry on. So I'm going to ask about crypto, which is dipto. When will we see the rise of crypto again, do you think? Is this coming from the fact that you've got any investments in crypto? I might possibly. I also have a few investments in crypto. Some absolutely terrible ones and a lot of altcoins that just are never coming back, I don't think. But some of the main coins, I think that, and I'm no expert in crypto, by the way, just to caveat this one. Obviously, recently, there's been the ETF of Bitcoin that's been like past regulations and this kind of thing. There was loads of expectation that because now it's got through that there's going to be loads of more investors that can buy the spot Bitcoin ETF, which basically means you're kind of able to get easy access to it rather than back in the day before this ETF came out, it was all based on futures, which is like a derivatives based. But yeah, there was loads of hype around this ETF. It popped up on the day and it got to like 46,000 again, which is the highest it's been for quite a long time. But I think I looked at it today and it's like back down. The truth is, there's no answer to it because who knows, whether or not it's going to be fully adopted and people are going to start really using it and you'll get loads of institutional investors in. I know there's a little bit of that. It's so hard to say. I've got a question then. Okay, good. I may or may not have invested in crypto. I confidently will say that I invested in this because I have a fair bit of money in it actually. I invest in collectibles. Oh, cool. They probably don't know this. They're like, okay, Vicky's a fucking widow. But I invest in, yeah, so like stuff that has, it's more like memorabilia for myself. 1918 Paul Max. I don't know if you've heard of Playboy. So things like Pokemon cards, things like old games, specifically gaming devices and consoles or actual cartridges or CDs or whatever. Do you know much about that? And do you think it is wise to invest in stuff like that? Yes, please go on. So if you've got the knowledge on it, right? I had a funny story. My granddad recently came to me and he says, I've been approached by some guy who's selling whiskey and I can invest in whiskey. And he says, I'm going to get all these returns on whiskey. And I said to him, what do you know about whiskey granddad? He says, nothing at all. And whiskey, a bit like it would be classed as a collectible, there's no liquid market for it. So liquid being the key word here, right? So you're buying an asset that is really a liquid. So you need to find, if you ever do want to sell it, like on paper, you may have made loads of money. It's trying to get someone to pay for that for you, right? So I am totally up for what I'd call an alternative asset class, because I think it's good to diversify in terms of what you're investing in. But I think being mindful of if you want to get out in the future and actually make it real money, it can be tricky. So don't put all your eggs there. Just because you might find the right person who says- Put all my eggs, just my dollars. Yeah. But you might find someone who's just like, and like Pokemon's obviously a massive thing at the moment and they're going for ridiculous amounts of money. And there's probably a decent marketplace for it. Oh, there is? Yeah. And other stuff I'm not too sure about, like I think it's- Oh, Housemate used to love it. Like really. I love it, but to the point where I don't have any problems not opening it, not touching it, nothing like that. I just love knowing that I have it. It's just nostalgic for me to have. But also, there are some people that they need to have it. There's some people that spend anything that they can. It's even like with- What's some of the other things I've got? I've got some like sporting stuff that's like, okay, I've got a jersey that's signed by a whole rugby league team in Australia. I know someone who's a massive diehard fan of that team would cream themselves if I was selling it. But for me, I don't give a shit. I've just got it. I got it signed. I don't care. It's there. I think I'm able to part ways with it. I don't have an emotional attachment to it. It's also a lot about popularity, isn't it? Because obviously, when we were younger, we loved Pokemon. It was a collectible, but I feel as though at the moment, there's such a big hype around it, where it's super popular. In 10, 20 years time, if you're still holding on to it, if it's not as popular, that's when it gets a bit tricky. But not to say it like- Yeah, there's a risk. I assume you're saying- There's a risk. There's no right or wrong. I feel like people won't forget about Charizard. I think you're probably right. Charizard's going to live on forever. This has got weird. I didn't expect that. You didn't know that, did you? I've really enjoyed that. I've got a little insight. Is that how you feel? But yeah, last point on that. I think we've talked about it in the past a little bit around the financial stuff as well. I don't find the idea of randomly investing in numbers that exciting. The investment in things or businesses that you have something to do with or know about, even though financially might not always be the best idea, it's kind of just a bit fun as well, isn't it? It's a bit more tangible. There's probably a larger risk with it, but it makes investing a little bit more fun. Yeah, I like it. I like buying that stuff. I don't know what it is. I like Pokemon cards. And as I say, if you've got the knowledge, I think do it because it's like shoes as well, right? The same thing, right? People that buy sneakers and stuff. You've got to have the right knowledge there and not everyone has it. It's quite hard to get a decent knowledge on what people's shoes are and what that's worth and is that a fake or is it not? I swear I've got real Pokemon cards. If anyone buys my Pokemon cards, please buy them. I think I'm going to sign us out because it's been a good episode. I think there's a lot to take away from there. I hope. I didn't press record at the start, so I think I have to do it all again. No, I'm joking. Thanks for coming on, mate. It's great to hear you talking eloquently and with so much passion about Pokemon. I love that, by the way. If people want to find you, what do they need to do? Instagram, coachnickgarcia, VTO. Blue tick language. No, I'm joking. Blue tick Nick. Hotmail.co.uk. Yes, on Instagram, coachnickgarcia and yeah, on my ... Sorry, I've talked so much, my brain's gone now. If you go into my bio, there'll be a link to my website and my programs and you can make an inquiry and all that. I personally, as I said at the start, personally can vouch. Unbelievable coach. If you are trying to achieve a small goal or one of these crazy goals, there's not many people better in Clapham to go to. If you've got Pokemon cards. If you've got any Pokemon cards, he's also your man. As we always say, a little sign out at the end. Obviously, Nick is a specialist in his field and gives professional advice, but this is a podcast. It's not individualized, so if you do have any burning questions, make sure you seek professional help. Do I have to say that? Yeah, you do. I'll say it in Australian accent. Just seek bloody professional help, you idiot. Come. Hello, and welcome back to part two of this episode of Seek Professional Help. We are back chatting with Nick and this part is a funny part. We talk about nutrition, we talk about his running and what not to do, and we also talk about his interesting investments, but we're going to talk about his running and what not to do, and we're going to talk about his interesting investments, but yeah, I mean, it was interesting, wasn't it, Dave? It was good. Yeah. Sorry. I don't know why that's what I was asking. Is that good? Yeah. David Thomas. Hello. Hello, Scott. That was a very tuneful opening. Thank you. I've been practicing. I can tell. What have we got in episode two with Nick, please? So part two, it's very funny if I don't say so myself. If you do say so yourself. We talk about nutrition and I want to apologize to my girlfriend, Chloe. I may have dropped her in it. Thrown her under the bus. Yep, and I do want to caveat, she eats well. Okay. And that's where I'm leaving that one. We talk about how Nick is a terrible runner and don't do what he says. I think that's unfair. I don't think he's a terrible runner and do what he says. Come on, Nick. Blue tick Nick will come for you at any point. He is bigger than me. He's bigger than you. He's quicker than you. But he does have a very funny story about what not to do when approaching your first marathon. And he also, interestingly, invests in some really interesting things. So I won't give away what they are, but let's just say pokeballs are involved. Fine. So you basically said it. It's a good secret for everyone. No, I think let's strap in. Let's get Nick back on the podcast and enjoy part two. Let's go.