The Collective | Town Hall 12/12/2023.

The speaker is excited about the completion of the rebranding process and the transition towards a community-owned brand. They express gratitude for the support from the community and the efforts of the Quiddle team. The speaker mentions their intention to build a collective and emphasizes the importance of community involvement and contribution. They discuss upcoming episodes and partnerships, as well as the exploration of NFT ideas and opportunities. The speaker concludes by encouraging community members to share their ideas and visions for the brand and expresses excitement about the future. I'm going to record the speech as well, I mean the speech, okay, so everyone, so whoever wants to jump in, it's going to be free to jump in, let's give everyone like a few seconds, actually I don't know if you can hear me guys, can you hear me? Yeah, give me a sign if yes, all right, I don't know if you can hear me guys, I'm going to jump in, I think so, let me know in the chat, hello, hello, hello, I think, okay, now you can all hear me, sorry, I had a little bit of technical issues, hello everyone, let's give like two more minutes for everyone to jump in, I just pinged everyone, so I would love to give some time, I would like to say hello to everyone that is here already, Dart, Digital, everyone, Chromazone, wow, so many names, everyone I built, hello, hello, hello, we have ATL already here, Quiddle, Perfect, whoever wants to jump in, let's say like just be able to bring you on, hello, all right, yeah, we're going to start very soon, let's give it one more minute, and then we can start, as I said, it is recorded, so everyone will be able to listen to it afterwards, and also do a recap, I'm very excited, I'm very happy to be here, because this means that we are actually done with the rebranding, obviously we are done with the rebranding in terms of like online presence and stuff, but this is the first step towards a community-owned and a community-run brand, so I'm very excited about that, about what's next, and you know, about actually what we can contribute to build all together, because that's the point, right, so as we say, like during this month, we have worked hard on our side to ensure that whatever we needed for the transfer and to have a community-owned thing was there in place, the effort from Quiddle and the team were amazing, and the support from the old devs, which is still here, is amazing as well, so shout out to them, shout out to the community that actually helped so much, like I cannot even say, it was not easy, you know, because when you have to leave something behind, it's always like you're leaving, it's almost like you're leaving a part of yourself, right, but it was for the better, and we are glad to be here, you know, the most like touching thing that I've read through these months is like the DMs that I always receive from Jarrett and many more community members, like supporting and, you know, acknowledging that we are all on the same ship and we are all like dealing with the same stuff, and it has been a beautiful, beautiful feeling to know that everyone was on board with us, and, you know, as I always say to myself, it's like, you know, we may not make that much noise right now, but when they're going to hear about us, it's going to be too late for them, right, so, but that's my thought, and, you know, I love to think it that way, because I'm sure that the collective is something incredible and going to be something incredible, but now enough of Kaito, I want Quiddle ETL to, I don't know, present themselves and, you know, start like, start this town hall. Quiddle, if you would like to spend a few words. Yeah, I'd be glad to. Can you hear me okay? Yes, I think so. Yeah, because... Can you hear me? I can hear you. Yeah, no, I just, to me today is just about, it's to celebrate kind of this milestone of the rebrand, and kind of where we've come in our journey here from the past, and where we're headed into the future. Yeah, I just want to, you know, shout out to, you know, the whole community for your involvement in this, you know, this rebrand, we put out, we talked about it, we put out some ideas and asked for suggestions for, you know, some adjectives, I think we call it five words for people to just kind of express, you know, how they would describe this community and our brand, and we forwarded that, you know, we use that as a basis with the logo creative, you know, to come up with the new collective logo. So, as well as the name itself. So I think the name, you know, just to talk about that a little bit, and then, you know, then we can go on to kind of other stuff, you know, kind of where we are right now, as well as wanting to invite all of you guys to, you know, chime in with questions or thoughts or ideas as far as where we go now, because that's what this is all about, is community. But yeah, I mean, it's, we're, we're launching the collective. It's something obviously, that's been a part of the story from the beginning as an element in the story. But we really seized upon this idea of the collective as something much bigger, you know, than just the story. And so we think it captures this idea of the community and the fact that this thing is, is owned by us and led by us, and will become, you know, what, what we want it to become, collectively. And so we think it's a great kind of brand vessel, you know, that can, that can incorporate, you know, the core essence of, you know, story driven, but be much more than that. So, so anyway, I want to celebrate that today, like just maybe a few words in terms of where we are right now. And then, you know, maybe we can talk a little bit about, you know, what, what's coming up near future. You know, we have the rebrand, you know, this month, the past couple months, we've, you know, we had our travelers episode with the travelers in Cosima, which, which I think was well received, and we were excited about and we have the current episode that's, that's in process. And, you know, we're, we're expecting that, you know, by the start of January or early January to have that next episode out, you know, which, which everyone has seen, you know, the little trailer with respect to that a couple of weeks ago. And then we have another episode that's also in process that we refer to before as the RQ episode, which really isn't very descriptive, but that's, that's just kind of the project name for it. And so that that's in process. So we're excited about the momentum we have here. You know, in terms of like our current resources, you know, we've always been lean and mean with this. You know, we're, we're, you know, paying the creative team, it's a guild resources, basically, and we're paying the creative team on an as delivered basis. And, and, you know, we've got, we've got enough to last us into the early part of next year. And we're currently in discussions. Well, I'll say we're actively exploring, you know, possibilities, you know, for for injecting more, more resources to keep things going. But beyond that, I can't, you know, we can't give, you know, many specifics. But, you know, so far, so good. And, you know, we've got, we've got several months of runway left here. And, and we're excited about the momentum. On the partnership front, I know Tito has been talking, as have others with several people, you know, just the community here, we have relationships with a lot of the known projects out there. Nothing to announce today, but I'm excited about some of the discussions, you know, that are going on with that. And, you know, maybe, maybe we can talk a little bit more about that. And then the last part I just want to mention is, you know, I'm really excited. You know, a few people at Alvaroon and others talked about, you know, the interest in, in having, you know, an alpha channel, or, you know, sharing NFT ideas and whitelist opportunities and so forth. And initially, you know, we kind of debated, well, is that really what we're about? And it's not what we're, it's not our emphasis. But I think it's representative, the fact that we've incorporated that now, it's representative of this bigger idea of the collective, right? Like we, we are first and foremost, you know, front and center, story base, but we're a collective, you know, community of people who are interested in NFTs and ownership, and what all, you know, those possibilities might, might represent. So, so I'm excited about the alpha channel. It's not something I'm actively involved in. But I think it's just like the first small example of ways that, you know, members of the collective have come forward and said, Hey, let's, let's do this, this will bring an interesting, you know, additional facet to this community. And so, you know, that's something that's just kind of started to take off here in the last week or two. And I think that's been really interesting. So anyway, that's just kind of my level set on where everything is. I'm just super excited. And I don't know if Kaido, ATL, you want to add anything further? Yeah. Yeah, I would like to add on that excitement because, you know, the best thing that is that everything is in our hands right now, right? I had a few, you referred to a few topics that I wanted to talk as well about, you know, the transparency and everything that, and the work as well itself like everything will need to come from the community. And, you know, it's basically the community that's going to be the council itself. As I say, like, we needed a strong leadership to make sure that the transfer was going in the right way, and with the right mindset and vision. And now that the transfer is complete, and we are here, we are in control, it feels damn, it feels very nice, honestly, I'm not going to lie. And, you know, from this town hall, what I hope for this town hall and for the ones listening later after this, you know, I hope that it's clear that we need to move all together, right? We need to actually, if you have an idea, if you have a vision, if you would like to take the brand or anyway, the community in a direction, please feel free to do so. Not only via DMs, also in the general chat. And we can do that, right? That's why I wanted a town hall on Discord, because I feel like it's a more private environment for our community, where we can start setting up a kind of like structure that would allow us to actually build as a community and not only as a, you know, founder team or whatever team, right? So that's the passage that I think we're going to need to secure right now. Now that the branding is done, now that the assets are ours, we need to have a clear path to actually not have just, you know, the feedback channel over there just for feedback. I want everything to be implemented if possible, obviously. And ATL is a great example of this because, you know, the Alpha channel, I mean, the Luna Alpha channel and the black market are the first step towards, okay, I want to do this. All right, let's jump in, right? So I'm very glad of that. And I'm very glad also for the other community members that are actually taking steps towards DMs, even DMing me like, oh, look, I would like to update my CV or I would like to work at this. I would like to be part of it. You are part of it, right? This is the most important thing to understand right now. And every step that we're going to have, we're going to take is going to be a collective step. And that's what it should be. I know that the space, the NFT space has been a bit weak last years, because, you know, you have the figure of a founder, you have, you need somehow some kind of like, you know, points where to take your, I mean, to follow the lead, right? But now the lead is in our hands. So this is the most, like, one of the biggest achievements that we could have. And I'm very, very glad that this community, because, you know, since the bad announcement on June, we all came together. And, you know, the positive message were so many. And here we are, actually. They were all right. We are here. We are here. And we are here to stay and to make, you know, our own vision, our own ethos heard by the space. And as Quido says, I'm looking for partnerships. I mean, talk with some partnerships, be it marketplaces or just collabs. Because obviously, in the next following weeks, one thing that you're going to be sure is that the presence of the collective on the NFT space amongst the NFT enthusiasts is going to be better. We're going to do many more spaces, we're going to participate. So I'm very glad of this. And a lot of opportunities are going to come up for the community, be it just in terms of, like, collabs and stuff, or whitelist beats. Not that this is our focus, as I said, like, the focus will remain with the story, because that's what kept all of us together. But I'm glad that with the collective, we can experiment more and we can expand our brand towards what the community wants. So yeah, I'm very happy about that. Etiel, if you want to say a few words, please feel free. Otherwise, I'm going to keep talking. Okay, Etiel may be unavailable right now. Oh, no, you're here. Hello, brother. What's going on, brother? Yo, what's up? All good? I just wanted to piggyback on what you guys are saying about the alpha. So, you know, we are not an alpha community. We are a storytelling NFT community. This is something that I, you know, I suggested because I wanted to, I suggested this because I wanted to bring added value to those of us who are still here in this space, who are still in this community. As of recently, I've gotten into a couple of good projects. And all the losses that I made with me three, I basically pretty much recouped with these projects that I've invested in. So it was just my way of trying to help out the community, people who are still here, people who still want to be a part of the space. And I know that like flipping projects and investing in a project is one of the things that brought us into this space to begin with. So I thought it was a good way to try to rally the troops, try to get everybody back on the same page, get some activity back in the server, to see if, you know, we can get some people talking about what we're doing in this space. Hopefully bring some new eyes and some new blood back into what we're trying to create with this story. So, you know, and I use the word alpha loosely, because it's really just my thoughts on projects that are coming up. I wouldn't really consider myself an alpha caller. I've just had some luck lately with some of the things that I've invested in. And then I'm going to try to, you know, keep doing these things, and help everyone else who is in the community also do what I've been doing and recoup some of the losses and, you know, get some energy back into the discord. So we're talking about different things. You know, there's, there's definitely different aspects to the Web3 space that we're in. And one of them is flipping and, you know, investing in projects. So I think we should try to be incorporating that into what we're doing. But it shouldn't be our main focus. Our main focus should always be the story. It should be the community. And, you know, as we start building the community, you know, we're going to become a better project for people to invest in and look at as well. So I just wanted to put that out there. So we're not all thinking, oh, we're going to be like an alpha community, and we're going to start, you know, trying to pump floors and do all kinds of, you know, other stuff. I'm just trying to share what I've been learning and, you know, share what I've done in the space over the last two years, the growth that I've made and hopefully help everyone else grow the way I've grown. Thank you, bro. Absolutely. And, you know, I want to actually to add something into that, you know, we may have different visions, we may have different ethos, not ethos, but like, you know, vision about the space and, you know, the approach on certain topics. And, you know, I don't know, I think everyone has seen me a bit more, you know, candid in the chat, not candid, but like, you know, I just state my mind freely. And, you know, it's not because I just wanted to say that when I say collective and community owned and run, it's because whoever can be here at my place in the stage, and I will gladly actually welcome that, right. So whenever, like, someone who works at the transfer, such as me, have a different view from you, it doesn't mean that your view is going to be like, you know, put aside and that's it, right? Actually, I want everyone to be free to actually push for that what they want, because that's the community, right? It doesn't matter who's speaking right now. What matters is that represents the collective and this part of the collective. So I really invite everyone to push for whatever they would like to do. And, you know, this is the chance to get experience as well. Like, let's say someone has no experience and he's like, okay, he's not confident in his craft or, you know, in his own thing, please feel free. This is our chance to let everyone, you know, gain experience, approach community first time like run business. So it's very, it's very, it's very compelling and should be open to everyone. So please feel free. And, you know, as I said, like, you know, I had the perfect example was me and Akash. I think he's here. Oh, yeah, he's here in the audience. You know, we had different points of views last week. And it doesn't matter that there is like, you know, no dialogue at all, whatever. We should incentivize dialogue across the community. And this is the way that we're gonna go ahead and forward. So absolutely, Etiel, I loved, I loved when you came up to us and, you know, you brought up that idea. And now that idea is like there, out there and is bringing joy to someone or not. I would like to invite anyone that has questions or anyone that has propositions or, you know, ideas, just share your thoughts, please feel free to jump on the on the stage and, and let's have a bit of a chat because we wanted to keep it, you know, as simple as a celebration for our newer branding. And we wanted to hear from the community, thoughts and ideas. If you have them, otherwise, feel free to just message them. But please feel free to jump in. If anyone would like to ask some questions, we're gonna try to answer everything as much as we can. This is your moment. So please feel free to to to send requests right now. And yeah, but we have also a new episode coming out. No, we are dropping these episodes on YouTube, and then on Twitter. So, you know, it's just like, you know, some steps that we took to understand our reach and understand how to work to actually get that better, right. So I think that, for the moment, we have been doing, doing well for for this from the situation where we were, where we ended up. So I'm very happy with that. And I'm very glad about the support. So yeah, I don't know if Quiddle wants to add anything else. Yeah, I just wanted to add, you know, I think, you know, while story is front and center, and is really our Genesis story, you know, we came, we came together around that. I think it's up to us to kind of explore and develop what that really means. Like, I don't think a year from now, we're not, I hope we're not, we're not in the same situation where we're just going from episode to episode. And it's a very kind of linear, you know, serial story process, even with collective community involvement, like I, I expect that we're going to be much bigger and different than that. So, you know, just to dovetail with what's already been said, like, I really encourage any and all of you who have ideas, no matter how crazy, to come forward with them, right, because this is up to us to define what this thing is. And so story will always be an essence that's there. But, you know, but it's not everything. And even it may not be the major thing on a day to day basis of this project, you know, a year from now or beyond. So on the story, I just wanted to say a couple things, you know, and it goes along with the idea of kind of inviting, you know, people to contribute ideas. And I think we've, pretty soon we're going to be rolling out like a suggestion channel in the story area for people to throw out ideas, you know, beyond like the parent prompt and the trust issues and some of the other prompts that have been there. But one thing that we're, we're actively working on right now is a way to actually engage an AI type NPC into, into the community. You know, this story, this story has always been about human, you know, a human community, confronting, you know, that the limitless possibilities and threats of AI. And so we're looking at some really interesting kind of ways to kind of integrate that into the discord, as it is, you know, so, so that's something I'm excited about, we're going to talk more about. Another idea that I'm going to throw into the suggestion box, I've shared this with the leadership group, but I think we need to start killing more people. You know, I think people need to die, you know, for this world to be interesting, and actually burn NFTs as a part of that process. I don't know what that looks like. But I think that would be cool. Like, you know, if in an R2 battle, you know, beyond phase, you know, God rest his soul. I think, I think, you know, there needs to be a life and death kind of aspect to this thing. So anyway, those are two examples of things that I would throw out there. But I know that there's so many more interesting and creative ideas amongst you all. And I would just encourage you, you know, to bring those forward, no matter how nutty, you know, they might, they might feel. Absolutely. And, you know, I just want to reiterate the fact that, you know, I was in a space with Daggerborn yesterday. And, you know, there is a lot of, when the prices go up, when the whitelists are hot, there is this FOMO coming in and kicking in. And it doesn't matter how fast the space is moving or not, or how fast this FOMO is moving. Like, you know, I think that, as Daggerborn itself says yesterday, because we know, we look at like strong leadership around the space. And I think that we're going to need all of us, our time, but it's going to be God, right? Like our time is going to be very useful to build the project and the basement of this community run structure. And Akash is here. I wanted just to give the word to Marce, because he's our artist, and I know that in five minutes he's going to run. So, Akash, bear with me just a second. I just wanted to say, to let Marce say hello, because Marce is our artist so far, the one creating the videos, illustrator and animators. He's basically a Thomas 2.0, if I can say that, because he's crazy as much as him, and he's a great worker. So, Marce, if you would like to say hi to everyone, feel free, please, because I know that you're running. Sorry, Akash, I'm going to give you the word straight away. Yeah, no worries. I just wanted to say hi to everyone. It's getting a big, big project. It's going to be a big, sick ride. It's a big, amazing project. And I'm happy to be here, just to say, just to tell you, just to let you know, the second episode is coming pretty soon. And yeah, it's a good ride. I like it. I like it. Hope you guys as well. Thank you so much, Marce. Thank you. Thank you, brother. We're going to jump to Akash. Finally, sorry for your wait. Hello, Akash. What's up? All good? Hey, what's up, bro? Yeah, no worries, man. Like, it's all cool. I was listening and I was enjoying what you guys are saying. And I really appreciate like, you know, the way you guys are building and, and honestly, like, we had this kind of discussion. And I reflected on that. And I tried to understand what you're you're saying. And I understood most of it like, like, and honestly, like, brand building is a very risky task, like there are less margin of errors. And you can't fuck it up, right? You cannot really make too many mistakes in that. So now the thing is, because I don't really have so much of time, so I cannot put put too much amount of my time. So like, you know, I wanna go with how you guys are, how you guys are, you know, taking the process and how you guys are doing things. And then kind of, you know, provide my support on that part. You already spoke about it, like, you know, we about the collaborations and everything. So I think, yeah, I think we are in a really good direction. I'm enjoying the episodes and our new logo. It's, it's really cool. It goes well with our name. Our Twitter is looking strong, community members are showing up. So and I think now we are we are we are slowly slowly getting on the right path. People are people are understanding and, and I can see the active in chat. I just you know, bro, I try to be as much active as I can, but I don't really have too much time in my hand. But when I have time, I just hop in chat and try to, you know, contribute as much as I can. Because this is one of those few projects in the entire NFT space, which actually listen to the community members. And you can actually actually, you know, directly speak with the decision makers and, you know, get your get your thing hard and be be part of the decision making process. So it's really cool. And I'm excited for the future of this project. And I'll make sure that I bring maximum value in, in building on this new collective. One love brother, one love to that. I strongly believe you because you know, you're very candid in your messages and in your vision. And I love the fact that you make your, your ideas and your vision like you're presenting as a strong one. And I love that. Because you know that that's what we need. 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going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be, it comes out from because, you know, we have been through hell and now we can look at each other. I mean, metaphorically, digitally, we can look at each other and know that whatever happened, we are here and we chose to be here, right? Like no, nobody's like forcing us to be here. So that's something priceless. And, you know, I'm very glad of that. And, you know, trust me, it has been, has been extremely tough. And, you know, sometimes I think all of us, sometimes we were just like, Oh, fuck it. Like I'm done. Right. Like, and, you know, the community kept us going on. The community kept the community itself going on. And, and it's something, it's something that they cannot take from us. Right. And, you know, I would say every time that I was like, I'm done. It was someone making fun of me that made me kind of giggle and be like, okay, I guess I'm staying. No, but it's, it's fine. But I mean, you know, I felt the same way. Right. Like, you know, sometimes I put myself in some positions where I don't show stuff, but like, it's, it has been tough on everyone. And I'm glad that we are here. And, you know, as I say, like, we don't want any detachment, like detachment with the past. We want to go over that, over everything, over any feeling. And, and that's why the rebranding itself, right? Like we couldn't keep a name that were hurting our feelings. Right. So the collective stands alone. And, you know, it's fun that actually it's also part of the story itself. Right. And I'm very glad of that. Oh, nice. Awesome. Well, yeah, so I guess the one or two things I wanted to quiz up, let's say, with the hub, and I apologize if I missed it, I wasn't here for the first little bit, but you guys are saying like, I'm not, I thought I caught something about not doing a game or whatever. And I was just wondering, like, I've noticed that like achievement thing in the hub sitting there for for a long time, and just wondering if there was going to be anything just going on with that. And again, apologies if I missed it. And then the other thing I want to say, too, is, I really think like, like, you know, with the Luna AI being something that we have access to with those credits and stuff. I know myself, I'm working on some stuff to put out in the future there. But it would be really cool to see the community like utilize that tool to, you know, bring their characters to life or, or the singularity scenes or different things like that. And then just see what kind of, you know, story creation we can make through utilizing that tool, because I think that's a way to, you know, bring them revenue if they can get users on that tool. And that's important. I don't know how the connection between, you know, a Luna and mp3 still works, but just wanted to know your thoughts and the community's thoughts on that. Yeah, so I can't, we cannot assure any, any kind of link with that no more for the moment. That's where we stand as for as for now, but surely you brought up a point, right? Like, we were talking about this earlier in a call. And, you know, there are a lot of like creator programs and stuff like that around the space, which I always loved, but, you know, somehow hated as well, because we are not all creators, right? And creators, like content creation and stuff like that is something that benefits not the community, but only some individuals sometimes, or most of the time, right? Let's say look at Azuki. Azuki, obviously, who holds on Azuki since Mint and never did like some content, whatever, what did he want from the creation program, creator programs, right? So I believe that and looking also at the gods, right, right now, like, I believe that instead of doing creation, creators programs, what we gonna be go strong on is going to be creativity programs, right? I remember the first when I first jumped on mp3 last year, it was about all creativity. And, you know, people, as I said earlier, escaping their realities through stories and through writing and bringing up creativities in their lives. This is something very powerful. So I think that your suggestion is spot on in terms that if we endorse that, be it with the Luna AI, be it with something else, we can do a lot of things. And that's where we are headed, I believe. In terms of the hub, I think we're going to actually restructure the website and not have that website. And that's why we don't have it on our official links for the moment, because I think we're going to do our own thing, which doesn't mean essentially, that we're going to sunset that even because I believe that's a community choice is not is not up to me or, or to create ourselves, right? So I believe that that that can be implemented in a new way in a new scenario in a new website, or anyway, a new layout. Is that the answer, brother? Oh, yeah, no, I like that. And perhaps just just tonight. Yeah. Just to throw around, but you know, say, say, you guys. So sorry, I muted myself. So you guys are creating a portal like that. I know there's some stuff I've been testing out with some of the tech I'm doing, but even having, if you could set up something where people maybe get points for, you know, the creative contributions, right, whether they're creating content, creating tweets, or whatever it is, and having a way for people to have a leaderboard and that essence, like, because it's a community where we want to create, and, you know, create stories and storytelling, I think there would be a cool use case to that. Just something to bring up. No, absolutely. That's why also, within the partnerships that I was talking about, like one with inspect would be lovely to have, right? I'm gonna be just candid, like, I'm in contact with inspect. And I want because we never use that tool, which is a very powerful tool for actually content creators. But, you know, to actually bring also some visibility to our community itself, and to the individuals of the community, and to whatever they're building or doing in the individual levels, right. So I believe that that's something that should be and we talked about that should be endorsed, and should be, should be actually a focus in the short and long term. Akash, you wanted to add something? Sorry. Yeah, bro, the thing with the Discord AMAs is we don't have emojis, and we don't have the hand raised thing. And we are on stage. So I would request like, if we can do this on Twitter next time. But anyways, yeah, inspect is a really great tool, bro. And there's this another thing coming up which, which is like Super Spaces AI. Right? So there, you can actually incentivize supporters, and they have this token, right? So you can actually give the token to your fans. It's called Super Spaces S-U-P-E-R. I don't know if you know this about. No, actually, I've heard about that. But I don't know much about that. If you want to DM, actually write in the chat, in the shareholder chat, so we can, so we can we can check it out. Absolutely. Yeah, sure. I'll drop it. And the, yeah, bro, TKB was bang on like there should be an incentivization for people who are, you know, contributing any sort of incentivization, it shouldn't be like monetary, even if like, you know, they get appreciate some sort of appreciation that would be like, really. It's a really good thing. So I still remember like back in the days in mv3, like we had, we used to have this, you know, story writing competitions, and we used to get like 600-700 entries a competition because the incentivization was mv3 whitelist. So, like, incentivization does really push the participation thing. So honestly, like one way of incentivization is like, you know, like, I feel like the current Twitter community, right, it's really trying to boost their Twitter engagement, like I am trying to do that. And I've seen a lot of people are trying to do that, because now Twitter has become a really big thing. And there's monetization and everything. So if you know, if we can create a system where the biggest contributors like get some sort of points, and then they can use those points to convert them into some sort of Twitter engagement, I don't know, this is like a rough idea. But I feel like incentivizing people on the basis of their, incentivizing people for to push their Twitter is a really good strategy. And it doesn't really cost too much. I think that's a good idea. Absolutely. You know, as I said, at the beginning, like spaces and such as like presence on Twitter are done for that, right? Like, there are something that we need to, because, you know, we are very, we are very, we are very aware of how the space works, and very aware of our like, you know, the voices heard through, through, I hate to say that word, but like influencers, or anyway, big names of the space. And, you know, we are, we have a network with all of them. And, you know, it is a valuable thing to actually promote our community visibility and our, and the visibility of individuals. And it's something that I think we should need to take care of more. And obviously, we're going to need to start from the collective Twitter itself, right? That's why I said like, and actually, you said actually, that as well in the answer, and, you know, about spaces, and, you know, we're going to have a few spaces coming up with some collabs, which are only collabs, not partnerships, but still, and, and that's the thing, right? Bringing out the name out there, and make our voice heard, to understand that we are here, we are alive, and we are back on track. And that's very, something very powerful. And on that, you know, we could like speculate and talk about like, whatever we want, but it's true, like incentivizing the community is going to be the thing to define also our engagements, because this is it, right? And, you know, it's also the big, the big question mark of the space, right? Let's, let's say, look at the gods, right? Like, and the platform that they're building about like, engagement and such as, it's very tough to, to define for certain projects, like their line and their communication line, and you know, their, their presence. But I believe that with us, it's crystal clear what we are. And, and being that crystal clear, it's going to be even easier once we start gaining, you know, once we start gaining pace, it's going to be easier to reach out to a larger audience and, and get our community the right visibility and to the individuals as well. So yeah, I fully, and I fully appreciate that and agree with that. We have also, oh, take it away, take it away. You wanted to say anything? Sorry. Yeah, I was just, and then I'll step down. I just wanted to follow something up there with what Akash was saying. But too, I know you guys are saying we're kind of a little like, you know, separated from Aluna AI. I just personally think it would be really cool to see if there was some way to do a partner, you know, still keep something moving forward there. I think, you know, even how he was saying, they're rewarding people. I think it'd be really cool for Aluna if you had a bunch of the collective community using that tool and posting and tagging it. And, and perhaps that's the thing where maybe that creator portal is like the, you know, the top person's winning credits on Aluna and stuff like that. Just maybe there's a way to, to reward back and forth like that. But I just, I just want to bring that up again. And, and then just listen to what you guys chat and just give you guys all some props for what you're doing. Much love to all of you. Akash, I don't know if you want to tell something. Go on, please. I just want to add like a small thing. I think right now, looking at the current AI space, Aluna is, is not really, it's, it's, it's not a really good AI tool. And I feel like right now where we are in terms of AI things, I feel like most of the people have access to GPT-4. And then there is grog, which is way, way more advanced. And you can even create images and everything with those. Right. So I feel like, you know, if we, if we incentivize people for Aluna, that might not be that exciting. And that might not really push them to, you know what I mean? Like, I don't consider it as a really good incentive. No, no, I agree. I just, I feel like it's the roots of the project. And I really, you know, I know Greg and, and RPN, even though I'm not necessarily as involved, put a lot of heart into it. And there's a part of me that maybe just feels attached to it. But, you know, it's, it's cool. And I mean, at the end of the day, if this could become big, we can help them. And then help us that, you know, like I said, there's been lots of times of emotion over the last while, but at the end of the day, we all need to help each other and get to the top together somehow. Bro, I still remember like the day they announced partnership with Aluna. And I was like, bro, this is the fucking coolest thing in NFT space, like NFT project, which literally did a collab with AI platform. And now the holder is gonna get free AI tools and everything. I was like, let's go. And I then swept the floor. I got like five more. And then, but anyways. Yeah, you know, like, but that's the thing, right? Like, you know, it's very hard and it's very tough, like to move some somehow in the space. Look, projects with like millions and millions struggle to find the right path. And, you know, and everything they do is like somehow wrong, right? Because that's a true, you know, it's very tough to understand like the hype expectation and the actual reality, right? So it's a very tricky topic. But I'm happy that it was brought up because obviously we can discuss about it and decide as a community, this kind of this such like of things. We have also Grim. I would like to give the word to him. He was waiting. Grim, hello. What's up, man? I'm speaker. So let's keep it English. Otherwise, the other people might not understand. I am listening to the suggestion. I am, you know, I just popped in to say hi and to see how the situation. And I'm gonna give my point is because I'm a Web3 advisor. I work for Gangster All Stars. We've been building for the better part of a year now. And I, you know, work with a lot of projects. I work with PukeCast, which is one of Asia leading Web3 Twitter space media group. Very well connected. But the thought that I want to throw at you guys, because it's very important. We are coming up from the ashes with this project. So this is the Phoenix moment, as we might call it. It's very hard to create that necessity for new holders to come in, in this very time. So right now is a huddle moment is where community comes together. They do give idea. But obviously, not everybody that's part of the community might have the best idea, even though they have the best intention. Because to create a brand to make the brand a viable product that people want and create demand for is a whole different story. And we can see this in the best kind of situations as what happened to Pudgy Penguins. This project was sold for a hefty amount to Luca. And Luca had experience in marketing and creating products from, you know, he just analyzed what was the potential NFT project that he might create better conversion for and started building the brand, bridging out, starting creating a narrative that gets distributed through social media, we need to create value for people to want to be part of the community, first of all, and secondly, to have a revenue stream coming in. So it's imperative that people understand that it's not a easy process. First of all, it might require months, if not years. So expectation need to be set at the very start, because we're not going to see a pump of like the floor, what it was in the all time high, it might happen over a long period of time. And we can see right now, based on also the attendance to this first space, that the community is in disarray, because they've been hurt by the situation that has been created. My personal opinion, trying to partner with projects were attached to metaverse mv3. And going back to the same kind of utility, I would highly disregard that, because I don't think AI is the solution, first of all, because there is so many alternatives on the market that are also free. And as somebody was saying before, I don't think a luna AI is the product that is competitive right now. But that aside, I think the brand itself, the 3d art, it's very, very well built. I don't know if it has a market for it, because AI, 3d art is very hard to sell, unless you are, you know, something like clone X, or other projects that have managed to flip around. But we either concentrate our effort into what is the trend. So the idea of a mind map more than a roadmap, and having like a flexible narrative for the project, something that has been playing out very well in the past couple of years, since they inceptionalize the project. And the idea of a mind map means I follow the trend, and I capitalize on what the best for the community, the best for the project, where you are a builder, where you're a marketer, everybody's got their skill set, and you need to leverage that in all facets of the project itself. So right now, that you guys have a team that is at the core of the community, you need to assess, you know, what is your skills and what's your value proposition that you can initially put together to create that push on demand? Are you guys good at making Twitter spaces that concentrate on creating like a Twitter community? And it resonates around that? Are you guys great at creating content, and creating value through that content, then try to go into the media group, try to make social side? Are you good at making designing product and design products and try to leverage that skill set to, you know, create sales and a part of the sale that gets generated, I mean, a small part, because we need to make sure that the business model is sustainable, gets siphoned back into the community itself as a reward or, or something that brings more value. For example, Budget Penguin is not giving, you know, any financial value back to the holders, but they're getting marketing value, because the brand getting so much exposure makes it something that people sought after. And again, we come to the concept of demand. So this is a little bit, you know, I've been rambling on for a bit, but this is a little bit of like, a spectrum of ideas of what you can leverage right now, to get from where you were a year ago, into a better space, I think that cutting off the American core to mv3, and then Luna and Metaverse would be the best option right now, because you want to stay away from what has caused the damage initially. And that is they're not being able to deliver on anything that they sought out to be, and actually burning out the funds that were allocated to develop the project. And then, I mean, what my idea is, a lot was invested in the people that were leading the project. And that was used to build a viable business model to supply, you know, something for the community, and make it something that people recognize and want to recognize. I mean, the connections were there, you know, there was a lot of opportunities in the past. And I just feel like it didn't go the way that the community was expecting, obviously, because the connection were leveraged for something else. But I'll let you guys think about what I just mentioned, and feel free to reach out to me if you have, you know, anything that you want to run through me and, and get some suggestion on what to do. I'm always available in DMS and whatnot. Well, brother, I love the fact that you brought up some context. And you know, I've been stressing out a bit with these talks, because like, you know, I love to see the space, I love to put things in context, I love to, to understand, like, how certain projects, these certain things. And I also agree on the cutting that that's why we are the collective, right? Because we wanted to cut loose with the past, right? And, and that's what we are going for. Because we are very aware of the dynamics of the space right now. And when I say that, I say that because we know, we know how actually Apache Penguins became what they became. And in which way, we know how the Azuki community is doing right now, and why it's doing right that we know, you know, and that's some beautiful context, right, right there that you brought up, because this is like, you know, this is like the realization of how the space is, and it's brutal out there. And I agree with you on the tactics in terms of like, you know, bringing up audience and not audience, but community, right, and build up for that. And that's why we say it's like, until now, we say it's exactly this, right, that we need to bring out the name right there. But not just to, to make noise, we need to bring out the name right there. Because if anybody catches our name and knows what we're doing, and wants to be part of the community, they can write and and that's the only path. What you described is the organical path that I wanted to always dream about, right. And that's, and that's, and that's, and that's it. Actually, I'm really thankful that this is recorded, because I'm gonna take out a lot of content from, I mean, a lot of like, parts from from your speech. And I'm glad that you did that. And you jumped in, brother, and you are always in my DMs. So feel free to reach out for this, because I really value these, the things that you said, and the thing that that's, you know, our alleged path. And that's what we should be focusing on, you know, and, you know, we had I had Jart as well, Akash, like talking about these things as well. Obviously, everyone with their kind of like, you know, shapes. And, and, and it's very beautiful to, to hear that from someone. And, you know, you put it in perfect words. So thank you so much for that. I tried. And it's fairly simple. Once your value proposition has built reputation in the space, then you can start looking for outside investors, people that are willing to put their money and doesn't need to be a VC can even be, you know, a crypto whale or somebody that you guys are connected with that is influential and understand the value that their project can have in the future. If you guys feel like, you know, you need to stand out or you feel like the art itself requires a refresh, you can always look to do something towards that direction. I mean, right now, you know, it's great art, but does it really connect with the narrative that you want to build? Because that's also another thing that you need to consider. If I can add something to that, sorry, if I interrupt you, but like, you know, I'm gonna be very like transparent here, because we have talked about this with the devs with the new devs. And, you know, we have reviewed the contract, the smart contract, and obviously, our smart contract, even if it's just one year, it's old, right? It's like ancient stuff. So we were all surely we will need to integrate or to actually use and create a new smart contract, which is more which is closer to the dynamics that are happening right now, right? And with the tools that are coming out right now with the marketplace that are coming out right now. So absolutely, this is something that we have talked about. And we, you know, I've reached out to Jart outside from the console, only by we have been talking about this a lot. And, you know, we wanted to put this like, for our community board, because obviously, we have Marcelo, which is great. I would love to show actually, in these days, I'm going to share some more of his stuff. Which is great, like to the art, the episodes are to the art. So this is a discussion that we have been having for quite a few months right now, I think we first came up like two months ago. And for the transfer, because when the devs, they were like, oh, they were shocked. They were like, what this, we cannot really work on this, right? Like, it is what it is, or we deploy a new contract, or we actually are kind of limited somehow. I mean, we are not limited, like big time, but still, right. So this is something that we have been discussing on. And I think that this should be especially for the art, for the art point of view, because it comes like a lot of feelings comes from that, right, in terms of like people that vote just for the art, for the story, and actually resonate with them. So we need to carefully as a community and not as a console, as a community, think about that, and understand the right path. But definitely on the smart contract, there's going to be some changes sooner or later. So I want to ask something about those details that you just shared. And first of all, does the collective have the ownership of the IP connected to this collection? So the narrative, everything that was built around the project itself? We do, and we do have also control of all the wallets, and you know, the deployers and stuff. Okay, another thing, which is quite interesting, I actually know one of the initial developers that worked on the contract for mv3, the one that was then substituted by the Azuki team, which took over the development of the contract. Is that Sigur? Huh? Is that Sigur? Who's that? No, I think his name is Sinusu. Sinusu? Hmm. Yeah, he was one of the initial developers that was in contact with Roberto and his partners when they were creating the contract. Actually, he was called in because the old contract guy had a problem and he was coming in to fix the issues. And he was working a lot to correct what was needed to be done in a very short time. And after he delivered, he was replaced by the Azuki team. But that's the info that I got. But still, he's one of the greatest developers that I've met in web3. Very quick and efficient, and very innovative in creating smart contracts. He can read them without any effort. If ever it would be required, obviously, we need to compensate people that work on these things. I know who to call. And I also know the artist, for example, of the God Hates NFT collection. He's a very dear friend of mine. And he's also Italian, by the way. So, I will definitely introduce you if you ever need anything like that. He does amazing work, both artistically, like NFT collection. He's super fast. He does also animation. So, if we wanted to do some work like that, we could suggest also another person. Absolutely. Just share these names with me. Just send them on my DMs or just share them with the community. I will DM you. You keep them in the book. Yeah, absolutely. The dev situation can always help around. With the creativity one, with the artist, I mean, I'm absolutely fine with proposals. We have Mark, which is a really great guy, and we have this kind of like Thomas Bibe, where he's like crazy. He's working on thousands of things together. So, I would love to explore more. But absolutely. We have Quiddos. I don't know if you are muted, if you wanted to add anything. I think we are also going to keep it wrapped up, because otherwise I don't want to steal anybody's time. But Quiddos, please. Yeah, no, I think we should wrap just to respect time. But no, I appreciate all of that commentary. I agree 100%. In terms of the comment on the relationship with Ellune AI and MB3 and so forth, there is a clean break there. And as Kydo said, this rebranding is representative of that. It doesn't mean we're not open to partnerships with Ellune AI or any other AI tools or other resources. But we do think it's important to be clear there's a break there. And I actually think it's a really positive thing that the context that that has come up in this call has been, is that a partnership we would be interested in? When we were having these conversations a couple of months ago, we were all still bitching and complaining because we were hurt. So I think it's good that there hasn't been any of that in this call, that it was just, hey, maybe that's a partnership. But so anyway, I just wanted to say that. I also wanted to say the only reason why we're the collective is because QPASS was already taken. Okay, cool, cool, cool. I love it. And I look forward to whatever you guys cook up, because I am sure that you are very talented and you got your heart in the right place. It's not an easy task to take over a community, to take over a project and rebuild. Usually, what I've seen that works the best, if the project obviously is strong, then you can work on the narrative, or just do a relaunch of the project and try to create that initial hype, momentum and use it to push forward to new direction. So I feel like you have that option at your disposal right now, especially in this kind of market where it's possible to take the direction that you want. Oh, absolutely. I always say that, and there is this project with DA, Divine Energy, which many of our community members know and are part of. It's a great example of how storytelling keeps a community strong together. And now they're building cool stuff. They don't make a lot of noise, but they keep going up and they keep being active and being together and building stuff. It's very cool, and I think that's a cool short-term approach while we build the basis for the fundamentals, for the foundations for what's next. But yeah, absolutely love your take, Green. Please feel free to reach out. As I said, I know you work on a lot of things, but whenever you feel free, like for a call, whatever, please feel free. Thank you, everyone who jumped in. We have one hour of record here, and I'm very glad of that. I'm going to do a recap for tomorrow so everyone can update themselves with the latest. But yeah, I'm very thankful, and I was already positive because of the rebranding. Now I'm even more positive because all these views and visions that we shared here, they're all real and can be actually tangible for our community. So I'm very glad of that. It's not going to be an easy task, as you said, but if we don't do it, who else is going to do it, right? So let's go and let's keep fighting. And yeah, I don't know if, Criddle, you want to say any last words, ACL, or whoever. Please feel free. No, just thanks, Criddle, and thanks, everyone. This has been great. Honored an effort. All right, then. Yeah, ACL, sorry. I don't know if you're ragging for me, or I think you're kind of ragging, brother. Yeah, he's breaking up. All right. No, I guess that's how we speak. ACL, you want to give it one more try? Yeah, we cannot hear you, brother. Dang. Technical issues are always around the corner. But yeah, like I said, next call, anyway, next space is going to be on Twitter, for sure. It was just a beginning step. So yeah, I don't know. So I think if ACL is back here, I don't know. Can you hear me now? Oh, yes, yes, finally. Okay, sorry, guys. All I was going to say was, you know, whether you have one MV3, or you have 200, you're a part of this community. All suggestions are welcome. All collaborations are welcome. If we're going to make it, we're going to make it as a community, and we're going to make it together. So whether you think your idea is dumb, or has been done before, or whatever, throw it out there. The same way we're talking right now, we're spitting on ideas, and we're trying to get things going together. That's how we're going to succeed. So, you know, when we make the suggestion channel, if you have a suggestion for story, collaboration, whatever, throw it out there. You know, I'm not the greatest writer, but if you have an idea, and you don't want to write something, and you want someone to help you out with it, that's what we're here for, man. We're here to build together. So I'm hoping that everybody takes this opportunity to try to get together as a community and build the thing we were trying to build from the beginning. All right, guys? Absolutely. On those words, I would say we can close the space, I mean, the space, the live stage, and see you soon. See you on the server. We're going to have some recaps tomorrow, ready for tomorrow, and yeah, I'm very excited, and I'm very grateful. Thank you, everyone, and see you soon. Ciao, ciao. Thank you.