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The podcast episode is about Star Wars and the impact of certain characters and themes in the series. They discuss the deep lore and expansive universe of Star Wars, as well as the religious and societal parallels found in the story. They also touch on the world-building and cultural influences in the different planets and characters. The conversation focuses on Qui-Gon Jinn's role and the balance of the force, as well as Anakin's journey and the biblical connotations in the movies. They explore how the story reflects the duality of good and evil and the importance of understanding both sides. Overall, they highlight the complexity and depth of the Star Wars series. Prepare for warp speed as we embark on a voyage through the vast expanse of science fiction in movies and television series. From distant planets to alien civilizations, we delve into the heart of the unknown, unravelling the tales that have captured audiences for generations. Get ready to unlock the secrets of the universe on Code Flix. Hello and welcome to Code Flix, the podcast where we take a deep dive into your favorite sci-fi and fantasy TV shows and movies. I'm Andre Bana and in today's episode, I have somebody very special, Mr. Javier Daly. Of course, this episode is a very special one. We'll be talking about Star Wars. Welcome Javier. Good to have you here. Yes, it's a pleasure to be here on Code Flix. It's a long time coming. And I'm just ready to talk about Star Wars. I've been a fan of Star Wars for so many years. I was never originally a Star Wars fan, but in our own second form when Revenge of the Sith came out, my friends at the time were really into Star Wars. So to be more a part of the group, you can associate yourself. At the time, I can definitely accredit Star Wars for my fascination of things with very deep lore. Star Wars, as people who know and maybe don't know, has a very deep and expansive lore. And it really and truly expanded my horizons of imagination. And part of the reason, you know, I'm the man I am today. So, yeah, get ready to talk about Star Wars. People get ready for a very interesting and exciting show. Especially if you're a Star Wars fan, yeah, man. Just sit back, relax, get your snacks, and we're going to have a grand time. Thank you, Javier. Thank you. Yeah, man. So I believe there is a lot we can talk about this particular series. Star Wars is such a vast lore. And, you know, we can start perhaps by talking about how the impact of Qui-Gon Jinn's role in things. And then we can take it from there, right? But when Qui-Gon Jinn approaches the Jedi Council about the return of the Sith, they don't believe him. Because the Sith have been gone for a thousand years. So they're like, no, there's no way that there can be another Sith Lord, right? Also, it also mirrors, the Jedi Council also mirrors the, in a way, the modern day church. In that, they have become so complacent in their ways that they have not been able to modernize and really see the world or the galaxy in that sense for what it is. Because what's happening, and that's the genius behind George Lucas' writing and the plan of Darth Sidious, is that he uses the disillusionment of the Jedi against them. Because what he does is that the people have subtly become disillusioned with them and their inaction. And so when war ensues and the Jedi become now de facto generals and de facto, in a sense, police of the entire galaxy, the people then now look at them differently. Where you have a set of them, of course, that look at them as saviors. Because the Separatists are attacking the planet. Versus the others, the Jedi, as occupiers. Similar to how you would see the United States, if they invade Iraq. Of course, you have some people who say, yeah, you've come to save us from Al-Qaeda. And then you have a lot of other people who are like, you are occupying our land. You are a foreign force. You are here to impose your will against us. You are no better than the Separatists, right? The other kind of similarity, in a religious sense, is the whole thing behind Anakin. Anakin has no father. Canonically, Anakin has no father. And his mother, who I think her name is, or something like that, she implies this when Qui-Gon Jinn meets her and meets Anakin and realizes this youth is powerful, he's strong in the force. The force is with him. He asks his mother, who's his father? And his mother basically replies, he has no father. She's a kid. Right. Which, and so the lore is, the theory out there is, is that Anakin is a by-product of the force itself impregnating his mother to bring him forward to be the balance now between the good side and the force and bring balance to the force. Because that is the funny thing that people don't realize. That, again, we go back to the Jedi have been in power for a thousand years. Right. The force has been unbalanced towards their side. Yeah. Unbalanced. Anakin. Right. Unbalanced. So Anakin has actually come to balance back the force towards the dark side. Yes. And then with the culmination with the sun Luke at the end of Return of the Jedi brings the force back into the middle. Yeah. It's a push and pull, a duality. Yes. Right. And it's very rare you get a balance in the force per se. Because you have to have good and you have to have evil to have a balance. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really funny how it's all brought back, but the biblical connotations in the movie are not lost. Yeah. I do agree with that because a lot of persons, they really don't look at it at that deep level that, you know, it was supposed to happen that way, basically. And so, you know, it was the will of the force from the beginning to have all of those things play out the way they did. And, you know, it makes a good story, I'm telling you. But at the same time, it also reminds us that even in life a lot of persons will look at it and say, hey, you know, you can't really understand the full length of what is good until you understand the evil side of things, you know, or you understand what is really, really bad. And that, you know, mirroring society in that way, right? Because I think that was one of Dias Rukas' goals, was to mirror society in a lot of those ways, because even the language barrier does, I think, speak a certain way, the way how, you know, different aliens speak. And, you know, it was just kind of bringing that idea of, hey, you know, this is, you know, our world. This is how we look at things. So he was trying to also bring down those stereotypes that we have. He was showing us the diversity of the Star Wars universe and the kind of characters he was introducing us to. And the new elements, you know, of this new imagination that he was taking us into, you know, so that we could blend more into it. Certain similarities, because even if you look at, I forget his name, the guy who captured Anakin's mother and was basically a slaver, his accent is almost like a Spanish or Italian mix with English kind of accent. You know, it's a relatable accent. He's not an alien. He's really an alien. He has an accent that we humans could say, hey, that sounds like a guy from over there, you know? So even though it was a strange thing, we could still be drawn into it in how he executed that kind of thing. The little subtleties of those characters. Right. And the world building. Yeah. And speaking of the world building, because what you notice is that the star systems are pretty much aligned to the way how we have continental or cultural differences, you know? So taking it, you know, for example, the desert planet. You notice that, you know, the way how people act there, you know, the dressing and all of that, the costumes and so on, are designed to be so similar to what we are used to, you know? And, you know, even the way how Horacant is portrayed, it is portrayed as if it's saying, hey, this is America. This is what we feel like. We feel like we are the rulers. Like New York. So, you know, it's almost like the, you know, the capital of the world that is, you know? And they portray themselves that way. The way how the, what was Alan's name again? The guys where they put an embargo on the planet in front of me. I can't remember their name, but they look like Chinese or Asian people. Yes. You know? Yeah. Yes. I mean, it's just crazy. They're very subtly Asian. They even have a subtly Asian accent, if you agree. Yes. Yes. Oh man, it's just like, yeah, you know? So, I mean, we did talk about the, we did talk about the balance being kept. And we talked about, you know, how we touched on what Anakin's role was in that and how his life would have played out, is that he would have started out as a child, just being this prodigy wherever he went. Even though he was a slave, he was the best of slaves to his slave master. And, you know, his life from there on, you know, once he was discovered, changed, there's a shift because it was him just doing what he wanted to do. And then him being able to know, him being thrown into a world where he would have to comply. He would have to work within a particular schedule and stuff because the Jedi, basically, when they take him to training, then basically I say, hey, listen, it's almost like... As you say, it's almost like a religious order. Yeah, the order. So, you know what I'm saying? Even Anderson, you know what I'm saying? Certain things put on him. Attachments. Like if he became a monk. Because that's how they see the Jedi, you know? They see them as religious figures in a sense. So, when you become a Jedi, you have to go through this religious, when you schedule this religious, this is what we're looking for, routine, a very religious routine. How you live your life. How you become a Jedi. And I'm glad you bring that up because in the whole run-ins of the movie, and that is why Phantom Menace is so important, even though people think it's kind of boring, both of the sagas. We have to talk about the two main characters of the film. Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Yeah. So, Qui-Gon Jinn is Obi-Wan Kenobi's master, while Qui-Gon Jinn is the padawan. Padawan being like a trainee, you know? Like a prodigy. And every master is to grow his padawan into being a full-fledged Jedi. They end up on this planet, which is, I believe, Tatooine. I think it's Tatooine. Is it Tatooine? I believe that planet is Tatooine. I'm not sure. But anyway, they end up on this planet. And meet this woman, meet this child. And it's funny, you know, because the events of the movie plays out simply because of a lack of fun. Their ship is damaged, and Qui-Gon... What's his name? The saver guy. Yeah, Watto is the alien's name on Tatooine. And he does not get alien credits. Yeah? So because of that, they have to go through this whole Rigma rule with him so Anakin can race in freedom. Ultimately, that leads to Anakin leaving the planet with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. The problem with that is, and again, it goes back to the brilliant writing of Josh Lucas in the lore, that in the whole run-ins of the Jedi Order, usually what they do is that they take children who are very, very young. Why do they do this? Because when you're very, very young, you have not yet formed attachments to people. And as a Jedi, you cannot be attached to people. Right. Especially the attachment to a parent. Anakin, by this point, is about nine or ten, and is, because of that, very much attached to his mother because she's the only real person he's ever known up to this point, and loved. So when they take him away from her, this leaves a hole in Anakin, yes, that he longs for her, and he longs to see her, which, when we reach to Attack of the Clones, and he's older, he goes to see her, only to realize she's been taken slave by the Tuscans, and basically tortured to the point of death, and he literally finds her right as she's about to die. This causes Anakin to go into a rage and kill that entire Tuscan village, yes, as he goes on to tell Padme he killed the women and the children too, not just the men, something that a Jedi would never do! This is how they subtly show us that Anakin has a dark side, not even just subtly, very utterly show us that Anakin is slowly turning to the dark side, but this starts from him in a phantom menace, with him losing his mother, going after the Jedi Order, and there are theories that I have seen that say that Anakin would have never become Darth Vader had Qui-Gon Jinn not died, because the way it was supposed to go, and you see, that when Qui-Gon even takes Anakin to the Jedi Council, and he says, I will be his master, they say no, they say no, you can't, you already have Obi-Wan, you can't have two padawans at a time, right? It's not until Anakin is killed, and what happens is, with Anakin, not Anakin, Qui-Gon, sorry, with Qui-Gon's death, and with Obi-Wan killing, his name just jumped out of my head, Darth Maul, killing Darth Maul in the duel of faiths, yes? Again, in the writing, because duel of faiths in itself is literally an easter egg to the fate of Anakin Skywalker, or the fate of the galaxy, that is why it's called the duel of faiths, in that, he basically passes his Jedi training in an unorthodox way, and he's graduated to become a Jedi Knight, and becoming a Jedi Knight takes on Anakin as his padawan, but there's an issue here, and it's obvious to anybody who's listening and knows, Obi-Wan is young, he just became, just became a Jedi, full-fledged Jedi, yes? You gave him two days to teach? What do you know? What do you know about force? What do you know about speed and Jedi more than for the last five minutes? Yes? So, but, it's almost out of necessity that this happens, yes? And the connection, because we're giving Anakin to Plo Koon, or Mace Windu, or, you know, somebody like that, Obi-Wan already had a connection with Anakin from their meeting and their time on Tatooine, so that is, as I said, almost out of necessity, they became master and padawan, and their relationship is split out throughout the Star Wars movies and series throughout that period, to show that they have a... In Clone Wars, they show you the evolution of Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship, and they have a very father and son, younger brother, bigger brother, kind of relationship dynamic, you know? Right. But with that, because Anakin always feels that he's more than he is, because he knows he's the chosen one. They told him as much. Right, right. And they've been ruling him as much. And I think that was a mistake, you know? I fully believe that was a mistake. Mace Windu, I think, says at one point that he thinks it's a mistake telling him he was the chosen one, and grooming him as the chosen one in order to make it happen. Yeah. But because of that, they have their disagreements throughout that bolsters Anakin's dark side, if you will, bolsters his disillusionment with the Jedi Order, draws him closer to Padme, which ends up them having a relationship, and that throws everything out of whack, because, as they say, it's almost like a religious order, like the priesthood or being a monk. You can't have no wife! Yeah? You can't have children. And Anakin was doing this. Right. And Anakin was doing all of this behind the Jedi Order's back. Oh, yeah. Being, at the same time, manipulated emotionally and mentally by Darth Sidious under the guise of Emperor Palpatine, or Chancellor Palpatine. Palpatine. He was the Emperor. Yeah. Chancellor Palpatine. Mm-hmm. And even if we talk about that, Palpatine ascends to power in Phantom Menace by using the Separatist War as a catalyst to oust the current Chancellor with his inaction towards them, allowing them to invade Naboo and attack Naboo. Yes? They voted for an arm, a vote of no confidence, and so he lost his seat. Palpatine, being from Naboo, and with that whole line-up and everything that happened there, gained a whole heap of goodwill amongst the core arm, the Senate. Yeah? Right. And so it was almost, in like a quick vote, in like a quick landslide victory, Palpatine used that to vote himself, basically, put himself into power as Chancellor, then used the war as a catalyst to give himself more and more and more executive power to do as he felt and to do as he pleased in the name of peace and in the name of the Republic. Mm-hmm. The Jedi began to see this because they saw Palpatine, especially because there was, in Revenge of the Sith, there, I can't remember what happened, but something happened, and I remember the scene because Jar Jar is actually the one, Jar Jar of all people becomes a Senate member, but Jar Jar is the one to propose, he's the one to propose that Palpatine be granted emergency powers, which basically means that he now has complete authority over everything. He can say, yo, do this, and it can just happen. Yeah, it's like if the President enacted martial law or something like that, do you understand me? We're in just executive power. He don't need to consult the Senate or any other executive body. It's just him, yeah? And they use that power to consolidate himself as Emperor, yeah? But with that, the Jedi saw, the Jedi said, hold on, you know, alright, you got executive powers, and you did that legally. However, with the killing of General Grievous in Revenge of the Sith, then you say, okay, the war is over. We still do who? Grievous is dead. So we set out to do... The war is over. You must now relinquish your power and give the power back to the Senate and to the people. But he wasn't doing that. No, he was going at all. He was just going on and on doing what he please to the point where... And that is how he manipulated anything, with his power. Because he was just like, oh, it's almost like a mommy-daddy situation, with the Jedi Order being mommy and Palpatine being daddy. Mommy, I want so-and-so. No, you can't have so-and-so. Daddy, I want so-and-so. No problem. What? You want so-and-so? Alright. Here. Yeah? Or in a vice-versa, where you go to daddy and you say, daddy, can I have so-and-so? No, you can't have so-and-so. And you go to mommy, and mommy is like, why are you telling him he can't have so-and-so? No! He can't have so-and-so. Yes? That was Palpatine. The Jedi Order would say, for example, she's becoming a master. The Jedi Order did not want him to become a master because they did not see he was ready to become a master. Palpatine was like, make Anakin a master. I want him to be a master. Of course he needs to be a master. But in making him a master, anointing him as a master, Anakin expected to become a member of the Council. And the Jedi Council is here now. Yeah. So, I mean, Palpatine has no say in the affairs of the Jedi Order, in which he can say, you are not a de facto member of the Jedi Council, and we just can't do anything about it. Guess what? That's exactly what happened. Anakin, when Palpatine forced the Jedi Order's hand to make Palpatine Anakin a de facto member of the Jedi Order, simply, simply for the reason that Anakin could feed information to him. Anakin was essentially a mole. Yes? Not only that, it served two purposes. One, to feed information to Palpatine, and two, to give, to put Anakin inside the minds of the rest of the Jedi Order to see how they thought, and see that they were indeed corrupt. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah? That when he, because he knows that Anakin's there and he's hearing them talk and everything is abrasive, then he says, no, that is wrong. We should do X, Y, and Z and the rest of the Jedi Order will turn to him and say, Anakin, will you shut up and sit down? While we, while you are a member of this council, you have no real say. So, yeah, this, and they just go on to do what they want. Naturally, that makes Anakin feel different. He feels that way and say those to them boys. They love to do good. Everything, and it just made it easier for Palpatine to change and to sway his mind away from the Jedi Order to the Sith. Especially, and I think this is the moment where he really and truly gave it more thought than he should have, but in doing that, he should have been like, you know too much. He should have told Palpatine that you know too much and I think that should investigate it because in Revenge of the Sith, and Sonya was talking about a lot of Revenge of the Sith, I was really pantomiming it, but in Revenge of the Sith, there's an opera scene where Anakin goes to see Palpatine and he's watching his opera and they're talking and in the conversation, because Anakin is basically sharing with Palpatine his fears and his disillusionment with the Jedi Order as it's subtly taking place and slowly creeping in and in that whole running, he almost implies the whole Padme situation and Palpatine goes on to tell him a story about a Sith Lord called Darth Plagueis who discovered a way how to cheat death and could keep the ones he loves from dying and Anakin says, is there a way to learn this power? and Palpatine replies, not from a Jedi. Now, any rational thinking person would have said to themselves, hold on, how do you know about this? Who told you this story? Where is this information from? How do you know this? And you see it's a matter of conflict. Yeah? Like almost implying that I could learn it from you. That you know this thing from me and you could teach me these things. How could you teach me these things? As far as everybody including me know, you are a civilian. You are not attuned with the force or anything like that. You are just a regular politician. What do you know about these things? Immediately, any other person would have run to the Jedi Council and said, yo, you see Palpatine? We have to go check him out viciously, you know. Viciously. Because he knows too much. And he knows too much about the dark side. When I am around him, I can feel the dark side present. Yoda, me, anybody, just go up and see him for a little while. He comes up to him for a little while and listens to him talk. You see it? This man is clearly the Sith Lord. But Anakin, because now he is emotionally invested, his thing is, this man can save my wife from dying because he has been seeing through the force. He has been having force vision that Padme is going to die. Specifically in childbirth. So the more he sees her getting bigger, the more he is like, I need to find a way to save her. And becomes more and more desperate to do so. And it becomes even worse because of this whole Jedi Council thing. He knows he can't go to them. He knows he can't go to Yoda and say, Hey Yoda, so here is the situation. Stay with me. He knows he can't go to Obi-Wan and say, Obi-Wan, here is the situation. Stay with me. That whole thing of him not being able to go to them directly to talk is because of the rift that Palpatine would have created for him and the Council. So as you mentioned earlier, basically Palpatine has been puppeteering from behind the scenes. He has been doing all of this. Making Jar Jar Binks a part of the Senate. Making all of the different strings, pulling the strings. You notice that many times they show Palpatine walking and talking with these people like a normal casual person, because what he was whispering into their ears, he was singing sweet music to them, basically to just do certain things, subtle little things that would put him where he needs to be and, you know, enable him to be able to do even more stuff, to puppeteer even more things. And so it would have been, you know, it would have been a thing if Skywalker, Anakin, would have been just going back to this and tell them, because they're not going to listen to him because they're going to say, oh, Palpatine has failures and he probably doesn't come back and tell me this, no, because Palpatine told him to do this. But they didn't realize, as you rightly mentioned, that that whole, that they should have been investigating that as well. That, hey, you know, this man has a hold on, you know, somebody who is a part of this, who he has made a part of this council. So basically he's like, they're watching him, but they're not watching him as keenly as they need to. And I think at some point they did say, like they said to him, so we need you to tell me what's going on with Palpatine too. But it's like he must say, you know, why do we need to do that? That's not really, you know. Yeah. He found telling on the Jedi council about Palpatine as distrustful, but he found telling Palpatine about the Jedi council, just what was supposed to happen. He never see a problem with that. Never see a problem with that at all. Because, you know, that it would have been that person who he trusted the most. Now, you know, that person could have confided in a certain thing. So that's why he would be able to, you know, tell him all those stories about, you know, the Sith Lord and him would just sit down and just take it as, hmm, this is a very interesting thing. And maybe he's not so bad. Because you've met people and you're like, you know, these people have been pariahed, but then you get to talk to them and deal with them on a certain level. And you relate to them a certain way. But then, you know, you don't know their true intentions at the end of the day. So, you know, that's why they say you have to always watch out and be careful of certain things that, you know, are, you know, certain people's actions, you know, actions speak louder than words, as them say. Hmm. Um, I don't want to forget this point, but going back to, this is unknown, but this contract is made between the Kaminoans and the Republic. Yes. Yes. And so, that he leaves breadcrumbs, that in attack of the clones, Obi-Wan, following that Sifo-Dyas trail, because Sifo-Dyas is cute. Yes, he's murdered off by Palpatine. Um, following that Sifo-Dyas trail, finds himself on Kamino. And in speaking with them, they're like, oh, yeah, your army is ready for you. That's why they think he's there. Yeah. He doesn't go there like, hey, I'm here to find Sifo-Dyas. You know where he is? He comes almost like a diplomat. Yeah. To seek information in very subtle ways. But in going there and speaking with them, they're like, oh, a Jedi, he must represent the Republic. Look, here is your grand army. It's almost finished. Yeah. And Obi-Wan is like, huh? Grand army? Looking out at thousands and thousands of clones and armaments and battle, um, um, weaponry and all of that. Why is this? Only for the attack on Kamino, not Kamino, um, Gan-Ganosha. And the attack on Ganosha to take place. Yes, where the Separatists now, full force, full force going out into the galaxy against the Republic. You know, the war has started. Essentially. Guess what Republic's gonna need? An army. So, boom, on Ganosha, the clones get their first taste of battle. Yes, and are basically emergent. It's not like the Senate or the Jedi Council really have time to say, well, we never really commissioned this army. Yeah. We didn't commission this army. Maybe we should look into this a little bit more. Yeah. They never had the time to do that. They were like, we need an army. We literally have one waiting right there. Shoot them over immediately. Yeah. Into war they go. Not realizing this is a part of Palpatine's plan from the start, and every single solitary clone has a chip inside them that is voice activated by Palpatine, that when he says a certain phrase, they immediately turn to his side and in at his will, without question. Yes. So, when Order 66 takes place, this is something inbuilt in every clone, that when they hear that turn of phrase, it's almost like, ah, if somebody was hypnotized, like MK Ultra, if you're aware of that whole thing, um, um, like a, a born situation where you are triggered by a certain word or phrase, and you go from a regular civilian into now a tactical operative. Yes. Without you even really think about it. Your brain just goes, bam, I am now in war mode. I am now in, in, in, in battle mode. I'm doing this. Yeah. And the clones go on a massacre, killing almost every single and solitary Jedi on Palpatine's world. It's a master play by Palpatine. See, because he brings them the very people who are going to kill them, that they have to work with. And they are now dispersed throughout the entire galaxy. They are now with every single Jedi. It's the perfect plan. So when he eventually goes to the Order 66, which is his complete takeover of the galaxy, and ascends to Emperor, and again, it's a beautiful plan. Look at what happens. He sets up the Jedi in such a way, and the war, the war is not there for any real other purpose, except to make the galaxy more disillusioned with the Jedi. This constant war, war, war, war, and the Jedi taking more and more, um, war roles, yes? And more war cause. Make the galaxy disillusioned with them. There are very few planets that saw them as good, or as friends. So when Order 66, it's almost like Hitler, in that sense, where he very subtly turned the minds of the Germans against Jews. So when the exterminations happened, the Germans never really thought much of it. So they were like, yeah, f**k the Jews. So when Order 66 took place, the Republic never really think much of it. They were like, yeah, f**k the Jedi. They're evil. We don't see them as corrupt for a long time. Get them out. Long time. And they saw Palpatine, you know, as almost like this hero figure. So when Palpatine is like, to secure the safety of the Republic, I am now ascending myself to Emperor. And this is now the new Empire. And it was a round of applause from the Senate. Exactly. Hadley, and a few others, Senator Amadala, what's his name? Amadala. We have another name. But it is only like a few people, just a few, few people in the Senate were just like, holy s**t. Democracy is dead. This man no rules us all. The rest of the people were like, yay. There's a saying, those who sacrifice their freedoms for safety, deserve neither. And this is essentially what the Senate has done. They have sacrificed their freedoms to Palpatine to feel safe. And in that, allowed themselves to be ruled by a dictator, by an Emperor. Yeah. Decades until... But yeah. Going back to the whole German thing, because there's a very strong similarity between the Empire and Hitler-controlled Germany during World War II. Because, while the Germans wanted Hitler-controlled, when he came to Poland, they wanted this. Yeah. It's not until they realized they had Gestapo at every f**king corner. Do you understand? Everywhere they go, there were police. And when a man step up and say, yo, this don't look too good, I want to go on. Dude. Anybody have any more burning concerns they'd like to share? No? No, we're good. That is the moment you're like, oh, I think we've made a terrible mistake. Mm-hmm. And that's the same thing in Star Wars. When they realized they would have stormtrooper at every corner, and then when a man step up and say, this is not right, and then gunning down the street, everybody say, oh, I think we've made a mistake here. Mistake. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But we were too late, because the people who literally were there to defend you against this kind of thing, couldn't make the most of it. He upstarted their execution. And so now, you're left on your own. Yeah. Palpatine, in my opinion, one of the greatest villains in all, Emperor Palpatine, Emperor Darth Sidious, one of the greatest villains of all fiction. He mirrors Adolf Hitler in a lot of ways, because even the historical context around what you were saying earlier, it's very, very relevant, because a lot of persons that I know have watched the Star Wars, and that's where they discovered the similarities between the way how the narrative meshes so well with what happened to the Jews, and a lot of persons didn't understand the real thing. Because, you know, you just hear it say, oh, they may kill one million Jews over there or so, but you don't understand, you know, what took place and how it came to be that this situation, you know, lasted for so long, or for the little time that it even lasted. It was like years to some people. It was like a million years. Hitler came in, I think, about 35, and he died. He partified, so they're at least there for about 10 years. But, as I said, it's interesting to see how dictators like that came to power with the support of the people, lasted in power and maintained power with the support of the people, and it's not until the very end that people really begin to see what was going on. It shows the mental gymnastics that we as human beings are willing to do to just simply go about our everyday life just as we feel like we should, you know? Because a man can simply influence you in a certain kind of way through the media, through simply word of mouth and rumor, through conjecture, through all of these things to make you have a certain impression on reality. And so when events begin to transpire, it becomes so normalized to you that you don't question it, even though a year, two years, time, a little bit back, would assure you, say, yo, you would accept this. You would never have gone along with this kind of thing. But because of your conditioning by the powers that be, it is now, everything is jiggy. You see me? So when Palpatine, Sirius can build an entire ship to destroy one planet, one device, a massive thing the size of a moon called the Death Star, that he's now going around destroying planets by planets, at what point do you say, boy, you know, it don't look too good for you. Something have to go do. You see me? Something have to go do. And the funniest thing, you know, a lot of persons would be on his side same way even at that point because, you know, the narrative or the propaganda that is being given to them and being fed to them, them taking wholesale because, you know, as you mentioned, but even the Nazis, you know, the propaganda that was out there, other persons didn't even think. They were just only fed this idea that, hey, this is just the way all things are to be because we need to ensure that we are safe or whatever the situation they felt good about, you know, to be, to allow all of this to happen. And, you know, that whole idea of, you know, the concept, you know, come up in my, George Lucas, I think was just him basically putting pen to paper to say, hey, this is what I'm seeing with society. This is where I think we need to look at is, you know, bringing, and that's why I like Family Guy as well because set my father in pieces all the while, I bring a mirror, you know, a magnifying glass, basically to look at what reality is, you know, it's not necessarily about the jokes, but also about the commentary that he, you know, he puts into the scripts. Yeah. Very good when you come on to social commentary. A lot of the stuff that happened in nowadays, I said to people, South Park predicted a decade or more ago. Oh, yeah. We do the whole trans movement and the ideologies that they are pushing. South Park knew a decade ago or more and was showing you, hey, if you do this, you know, this is what is going to happen in society. And so said, so done. I think, going back to Star Wars, I think, that whole trilogy, prequel trilogy, also, in a lot of ways, mirrored what was happening at the time with the Afghan war and the Iraq war and George Bush. I remember me, myself personally saw that and identified the two because I am, I would admit to this, I am one of those people who don't believe 9-11 was one of those things that was happening. Yeah. I do believe the government had some insider knowledge and some, some hand in how that day played out for their own personal gain. And so I looked at George Bush as poverty, as serious, in playing both sides of the war so that you don't, you can't lose. Yeah. I instigate the event that they know lead me to have to then do this and then going in and that only brings me more power. You know? So I don't know. I've heard other people say it, that that was George Lucas throwing that in there to give that sprinkle of real life and what was going on at that time. But, as I say, it, it, it, it, overall, it shows you in the messaging that you cannot give way to that kind of thinking to, to, to authoritarianism that a man can't just come and say, yo, I saw things to go and you just say, yeah man, I saw it to go. I think that is the spirit behind the rebellion in going against the empire, going against the, the egos of the world to try and again set apart, you see me, and give us a new hope, if you will, Yes. But, as I said, that's, that's, that's one of the beauties behind Star Wars and its storytelling, the, the, the depths of it. Some people may watch Star Wars and that is why I'm going to say it, like, I, I, I, whenever somebody says they're not into it, I always ask them why. And if they say, oh boy, you know, the bugger, the bugger, this, that, and the force, and, ah, just foolishness, man, re, re, re, re. I say, alright, we can't really deal with you because you're not a deep thinker in that sense. Yeah. Yeah, anybody who's a deep thinker and I'm going to dismiss something like that just off the blue, yeah, then you're going to want to know a little bit more about it, see. Or at least just say, yeah man, that is irritating, whatever, re, I'm not into this, but I'm into this still. You see, I prefer this kind of thing. I'm a Star Trek person. I have Star Trek people who are not Star Wars people. Star Wars people. Star Wars people, like me, who are not Star Trek people. Yeah. But at the same time, we can, we can overstand and accept and respect each other's views because we live in that world. You see me? Right. And in that world of science fiction, we are all one. Mm-hmm. That, that is true. We, we, we have to come to understand ourselves through science. As a, as a human species, that is what we do. We try to ensure that we are understanding the world around us. We, we don't stop asking questions. All right? That is what science Right. is all about. 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