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Welcome to the Ospreys iReeve. Hello and welcome back to the Ospreys iReeve podcast, the podcast who is having a good time. All right, another bit of a wave of positivity. We're back to a full three this week. So joined as always by, he's no longer scum, he's no longer journalist scum, he's back from his placement. It's Justin. How are you? Hello. I was here last week, so. Maybe you were a journalist last week, so. I still am, so yeah, hello, I'm back. And we are joined by still probably the busiest man in Raffy, Robbie Owens. I mean, no, I think there's, that's Jim Hamilton, apparently, later in judgement on that app. No, I've been getting a lot of phone calls from lawyers since Monday night. I'm not sure what that's all about. Do I need context for this or is this just something that I do? I know. So I, look, I'm not, I'm not going to lie. I don't listen to the Raff every week, but I chose to listen this week and what should I hear? But what Mr. James Rees, apparently, passing off my name to lawyers, this is, okay, that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. You framed me. You framed me for a crime. All I'm saying, I'm about to have a baby and you have YouTube money. So if anyone's going to win a legal battle, it's you. I mean, look, let's, no, you've got a flawless argument there. You've got flawless logic. You've got NordVPN. I've not, right? Yeah. Oh, mate, I can tell you some stuff about NordVPN up there, about that situation, because I got a hell of an email a few days ago, but that's a whole other thing. Yeah. You may not see that sponsorship again very soon. Oh, right. Okay. This is the note in which we intend to continue on. So, yeah. Robbie's entering a legal battle on my behalf. Yeah. That's the plan. Legally blonde, but like legally not, you know, something like that. How are we, gents? Good? Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. But what we'd have at any of the places we pick would be primary tenancy, so we'd have to be the primary tenants over Neath, Bridgend, Swansea, Clan Remy, I don't know. And the idea is that we want to generate non-matched-day profit and have our training base based at where we want to be, because we don't own Clan Darcy either. Clan Darcy is owned by Neath Botanical College. So in practical terms, I have said that St Helens would be the best option because of what you can build on-site, having been to St Helens multiple times, been in a clubhouse, you know. There's been lots of rumors about the cricket has been sold, they've got to go. The businesses that were based there, I believe Scotland was based there, have been told to go as well. So look, this is all speculation, brain of salt. I'm sorry, I'll sprays. It is my duty to report on these things. Again, if you want to see me, my name is Robbie Owen. My name is Will Owen. Any court dates, please forward on to Long Eaton RFC and we can go from there. They've been for a moment. They've got the money. Yeah. They've got the RFU money there. Yeah. They had Buddy Reuben Morgan-Williams' brother down at the weekend. Celebrate. Former player. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What's the brother's name? Rory. Rory Morgan-Williams. Rory. It is Rory. I was trying to think the kid's name. Also, RMW. Because we were trying to think, we were going to do, unwrap our best 15, our players 15. It was like, players are sounding like cars, and I said, well, there's Reuben. I can't remember if Reuben's brother starts with a B, because it'd be perfect, because it'd be BMW. But it's not RMW again. Yeah. It's like they're going for Robert rather than Bob Morgan-Williams. Yeah. Bob Morgan-Williams. The fittest man I know, that boy, Reuben. Great, great guy. Anyway, I think that's everything on the rumor mill. Cameron Jones is the other one going down to South Africa, which was pretty much confirmed by his Instagram story, which said, see you in seven weeks. Now, unless Cameron Jones is doing solid time, I don't think seven weeks is going to be good. He's who the lawyers got to. They got to him. Yeah. So, because he clearly isn't doing a money laundering scheme, because the Austrians still have fuck all money. So, yeah. Either Cameron Jones is doing hard time, or he's going to blunt some teeth. So, yeah. Cameron Jones will be the other one, but I will cover that as more comes out. Shall we talk about the weekend? Hmm. Hmm. We should. So, I should probably get the match up. Ospreys are undefeated against South African opposition this year. Yeah. When was the last time you could say that? I mean, it's certainly not the last season we've played the Kings. No. It's exciting, and weird, and strange, and new, and a hell of a game to put that in. As I said, I went to an assumption we won it, yet was much too nervous for that final third. And yet, you look back, and for most of that game, we were fairly comfortable, and we're pretty much controlling that game, which is not something that this team has done particularly well over the last two seasons, is getting control of the games and staying control of the games, you know? They're very good at scraping it out, and winning at the death, and clawing their way back into games. They've been less good at getting in front, and then just putting the foot on the throat, and managing to see the game out from there. And yet, there was a spell in which they got those two tries late on, a kind of 10-minute spell towards the end, but they still soared out, scored another try afterwards, having quelled that momentum, and almost kicking that penalty as well. So yeah, a really, really pleasing performance, and a real kind of step forward for this team to be closing those games out in the style that they did. Justin, you were at the stadium? Yes. How was it? Ozzy spoke to me, which is interesting. No! That is a story for... that's a really interesting tangent, but yeah, he spoke to me. So whoever Ozzy was on Saturday... Please come forward! Well, yeah, please come forward, and the article that he wanted me to write might be coming in the pipeline, I don't know yet. Whoa, Ozzy actually wrote words? Yes, he genuinely spoke. Ozzy actually spoke to him? He genuinely spoke. This is groundbreaking development. Sorry, sorry. Can I ask a previous question? Did you drop acid beforehand? No, I took a photo of my mother, who was attending her first game in quite a long time, and by the time we got to the riverside, it was timed perfectly to when Ozzy was walking past us. Okay. So my mother was joking, saying she had a photo with Ozzy, and the photo happened, so she gave me her phone, so I took the photo, happy days. I thought Ozzy was just going to disappear and do whatever Ozzy does, or whatever, and then he just taps me on the shoulder, and just speaks out of absolutely nothing, and says that I should write an article saying Ozzy's the best. So yeah, I have to admit I haven't started it, but mainly because there's a European match on the weekend, but it might come soon, who knows. He does come under the banner of mascots that threaten Aurors. Oh yeah. There's him and the Leinster one. Oh God, don't get me started on the Leinster one, there's a whole, yeah, situation there. I'm just waiting to turn up to the brewery on Saturday, Ozzy just there, winked at me, saying, where's this article? With a baseball bat. Him and Cyril the Swan. 800 words by 9pm. Right, so my best friend Morgan used to actually be Ozzy. He was Ozzy while he was in university, he was really the way he did big work with us within the community. So he was Ozzy on Match Day, so he used to walk past me, and yesterday when they were my seatings, and I just used to turn around and just sort of fist bump Ozzy, and then he'd go back and forth in the drama hall, like, taking photos with the kids. I remember where... He'd look at Ozzy on the weekend and he just goes, I know where you live, Yeston. And he's like, keep smiling. Go on, Robbie. Oh God, no, I was going to go on a tangent about when I was in uni for our varsity, which for some reason, I went to the University of Derby, and for some reason our varsity was against Northampton, because it was the closest university that didn't have another better rival. Because all the Nottingham ones and all the Leicester ones, which are closer, all had other unis within the city. So for some reason we went to Northampton, and no one really cared, but you're like, well, we make it into a big deal. And I spent a day once as the Derby mascot, but we didn't have a mascot, so instead I ended up wearing a Sonic the Hedgehog costume all day, and dancing. In a way, I have never felt freer before or since. The following year, they had me presenting the TV coverage with my friend James, a different James. And that footage, I fear, is still out there, because it brought me back the following year, like after Squid Ruppy had started, but hadn't taken off enormously, after I'd graduated as well. But they were like, that one was last year, can you come back? Or the other year, whenever we last hosted it. Yeah, I've got no way that that footage is still out there. I don't think I was that great, and hence why I've never sent it off as a showreel. What I'm saying is, in every job in the business, I'm now discovering... It's just because, right, I'm a bit snobbish when it comes to Varsity, because obviously I was at Swansea University, which is like full national media coverage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the second biggest Varsity ever, so, you know, the Tory one. You know, and the person who does the commentary... The biggest Varsity you can play in is someone without a double-barrelled firm name. Yeah. And Dave Rogers does the Varsity commentary for the rugby, because he's the best. We love Dave in this podcast. But yeah, I just sort of remember walking into the stadium at the last... Because I was in Covid when Varsity happened, so we had to wait until Covid was over. And me and my best mate, we walked in there and sort of been drinking all day. And I'm just thinking, it's 30 degrees, and there's a bloke stood there in this... Whatever Swansea's mascot was, it was a swan of some sort, and I'm like, you could not have paid me enough to do that. Oh God, you should have seen the state of my hair afterwards. Because it was, yeah, it was a hot, boiling day when I did the Sonic costume. And boy, it was mostly like curled up into one ball of sweat. I was a very sweaty little girl. That came out horribly. Anyway, back to the game. So, try-scorers, Tom Boater, Martin Gillingham somewhere has exploded. He's not Mr. Gamer now, he's scored a try. So, Tom Boater got the first after sort of some sustained pressure on the line. It was really weird seeing Osprey play quick ball that close to the line. We just kept picking it up and seeing like, you know, anyone could have scored. And then Samparri, we haven't talked about Samparri yet, we will. 150 games. Scores the most anti-Samparri try possible. Where he, Ruben will go into spots to gap, makes the break, which he often does. And gives a 2-on-1 to Samparri, who canters in from about 15 metres. Yeah, which makes it his longest range try by 14 metres. And it was just, if there's a man who, no one deserves it more than that man. Like we said before, and I've said it all week, he is an Osprey legend. You know, he grew up supporting the Ospreys. He is Mr. Osprey in the most decent way. He's Aussie. He is Aussie, yeah. He's the one who told yesterday where's my article. That would make a lot more sense yesterday. He's a friend of the pod. He's just an all-round great guy and deserves it. And he does, you know, in the same way he deserves his yellow card. Because he just wanted a break. Because I would too, after having to score from 15 metres. It was a beautiful, perfect tribute game to it, wasn't it? Like 100% line-out, nailed everything, scores a try, gets the yellow card. What more could you possibly ask for? I only played 31 minutes on my 150th game. Yeah, I do all of that. Lions then hit back. It was a try of their own through PJ Boater. PJ Boater. The second best boater on the pitch that day. So, yeah, they get a try. And then we do well to hold out. Again, just before half-time. We come out 49 minutes then. Morgan Morris, who had an absolute stormer. 18 out of 20 tackles, 21 carries. Dummies goes over for the try. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? Is Morgan Morris... Because we get it all the time, right? It's the Morgan Morris cycle. He'll have a really good game. He'll get player of the match, speak really well. There'll be some scrum... He'll have a bit of a scrum fight where they say he's really good. He'll have one Wales on line-out. He'll say he's in the Welsh winners and losers this week. And then that's it. He doesn't get picked. But it's the cycle of Morgan Morris. What more does he have to do? Robbie, you go first. I wish I knew. I think there was a couple of points against... I say a couple. I mean literally two points against Manchester where they tried to send him in on kind of shit-fall to generate game line. He kind of met the game line rather than crossing it. And we're looking at... And I had someone tweet to me saying, does this particular carry explain why he isn't playing for Wales? Because he isn't an automatic 100% of the time generating game line ball. And the thing is, I think he's worth the fact that maybe eight times out of ten he crossed the game line rather than nine times as maybe you want in a test eight. I think he's worth the amount else he brings in terms of link play. Toby described him as one of the top three, I think, most rugby intelligent players he's ever worked with. The amount he brings in defence as well. You mentioned his tackle stats and turnovers as well. There's a crucial run right at the end to kind of win that penalty that Jack Walsh almost kicks to hit the post with. Ultimately leads to the Sheeran-Giles try. Sorry, there's an offload for Keefe to score. I think he has an all-round game. I think he is safely the second best in Wales to Talibah Fawcell, who is a player that I love and I think is one of Wales' two real world-class players, him and Jack Morgan. And I'd have him in every squad possible. He'd be there every week for me. He'd be making the 23. I couldn't tell you beyond the odd perhaps it's a size thing, perhaps it's just the raw power isn't there in the same way it is for some other eights. But then that's never stopped an awful lot of players making a test level, including Talibah Fawcell, who isn't that huge. But Josh Navidi's another one, isn't he? Josh Navidi was ignored for years. And then when Josh Navidi retired, it was really hard to look at a Wales back row that didn't have a Josh Navidi in it. It's really hard to see an Ospreay back row that when Morgan Morris isn't in it, you lose something. Yeah, as Robbie mentioned, he was very good in the weekend and I think Booth mentioned it first match as well, it wasn't just the attack and display that he gave, it was also the other side of the ball as well. And that's the really pleasing aspect of it. But it wasn't just him, credit to the entirety of the front eight who performed very well. Especially the likes of Rhys Davies and James Ratty too. Especially Ratty who's come in from Cardiff for the start of the season and has performed very well. And then you've got your Beard, your Davies, who are at the moment the first-choice lock pair. And it's kind of a really interesting selection the next week as you have in that back row. So you've got a list of players, but where do you fit them in? So you've got Beard's probably in at lock, you have Davies, Ratty, Davies, Morris, there's six players there and one of them dropped onto the bench. So it's really interesting to see how all that's going to work out over the next couple of days. And it's a really interesting selection. But yeah, Morris, Davies and Ratty were the real standards up front, except for the front row who I thought were brilliant in the scrum in the first half. And maybe the first scrum where they got pushed back a little bit, but they won a free kick, so you can't complain. They got on top then, which is a really good thing. We're slightly guilty, because we all love Nicky Smith so much and value him so highly, of forgetting just how good Gareth Thomas is on his own regard. He's an absolutely brilliant loose head, brilliant at this level, dominant at this level, capable of being dominant at this level. And just because Nicky Smith is the best loose head prop in European Club Rugby, we lose track of Gareth Thomas is top 15, maybe top 10. I just looked at that core on the weekend of who stood out, right? So you've got Alwin Watkin, 27, 28 now? Is it around that? Rhys Davies, who I thought was excellent. There's a bit, right at the start of the first half, it pops up on a wide channel. I just carried over the game. I'm like, oh my God, I need this in this every week. James Ratty, who Sean Ed Harris rightly pointed out on Scrum Play, was excellent. It's just how it, like, if I was a Cardiff fan, I'd be sick. I'd genuinely be sick watching James Ratty do what he does. But you know what? I'd be really proud of that sick. No, I would be as well, because James Ratty left us, right? And I was not bothered. I was like, do you know what? Good on him. He's not getting the game time. I've not seen enough to be like, go and, you know, I'm going to mourn you. It's a bit like when Tom O'Flaherty left, right? Years ago. I was like, I see the potential, but I've seen nothing in our spray shirt that says, you should be playing week in, week out. And then he went and proved everyone wrong, right? You know, won a premiership title next year. He was a standout winger. With James Ratty. It's coming down this weekend for sale. It's coming down. This is the Tom O'Flaherty derby. Yeah. With James Ratty, I was like, when he was at Cardiff, I was like, you're consistent game line. You're playing brilliantly wherever they put you. In a pack that isn't necessarily going forward or return. You know, you look great. And then you saw his press conference last week, pre-Manchester, and you're like, he's like, I love where I am right now. I love playing in Swansea. I love playing with my mates, the people I used to play with and against growing up. You're like, that's what you want. And then you see Morgan Morris as well, who's just, and it's just that, and Robbie, you know more because you've spoken to Morgan a lot. And it reminded me of an article that Rugby World years ago, Sarah Mockford did when she was editor. I was just talking about his sort of coming up at the Ospreys. And you're just like, four years ago, would you have said how good this kid's going to be? And he's been doing this for two, three years. And he's showing no signs of letting up. Yeah. Yeah. And then the final Lewis Lloyd, inheriting the powers of his dad. Sam Parry, he scored a pushover try. He was really good when he came on. He seems to have put Edinburgh behind him now. Yeah. Delighted with him getting his first try. Yeah. I am as well. He's only 705 off Sam Parry. Just could have been what, yeah, weird that, you know, Morgan Morris in this game scored the Ospreys' thousandth league try, which is especially surprising considering Sam Parry scored 1001 on his own. You know what? We take it as we get it, don't we? Yeah. I've been watching the footage for the video we made when I was in camp with the Ospreys last week. A week before now, yeah. Yeah, which will be up tomorrow, hopefully. Should be tomorrow. It's finished now. It's done. But just like going over some of those, you know, Lewis Lloyd being such a great lad and so friendly and he smiles for bloody Wales, he does. He's always grinning at everything. He laughs at everyone's joke no matter how bad it is because I made some bad ones and I cut a lot of them out but Lewis Lloyd laughed at every single one of them. And yeah, lovely, lovely guy as is, you know, that team you mentioned and like it comes across, I think, in the, not to, you know, praise the thing itself, but like you say, you know, James Ratty's played with some useful players. Yeah, he played with me last week on Mario and Sonic. But like the interplay between like Ratty, Morris, Sutton, in that bit, I'm, you know, I'm there as well. But just like it shows all of that when they play on the pitch, you know, you can tell that James Ratty and Morgan Morris get on really well from how well they link up between the two of them. It's kind of irrelevant, but yeah. But no, yeah, I thought Ratty was absolutely fantastic. I also think Justin Tipperick, if you remember that background that I mentioned. Yeah, I remember him. The hour he played was maybe the best on the pitch for me. I thought he was absolutely brilliant. He's everywhere, man. He always is. It's incredible. You think he's just going to be on the edge, the outskirt of Trebanos Rugby Club, but no, he's absolutely everywhere. The wily groundskeeper. There's ghosts, ghosts, ghosts there. Ghost scum cat. It's that breakie, mate. He just makes breaks. It just takes the ball. I mean, it's just so, you know, you're like Justin, you're 65 and you're willing to take the ball up, it's what Josh Mativese used to do. It's slow ball. The defenders come so quickly. Justin Tipperick's like, just give it to me. I'm not going to make any yards, but I'll give you a quick ball. And then Kieran Williams goes over for the last. I was never worried, right? When Lionel scored that second try and it was 29-21, I was like, they need two scores. I was like, right, I'm not worrying. We still got all four points. And then we go down, we hit that driving ball, and it goes out to Giles. And you just remember the game-breaking ability that kid has. And one and two set. And then that Kieran Williams support line, which we've seen them both run, because if you remember the opposite happened in the Lions game. Out there, Kieran Williams runs a lovely, out there, Kieran Williams runs a lovely line-off. Gives it to Kieran Giles. That's the link-ups you have. And that's what happens when you have a squad that's as tight-knit as that. And it begs the question, what more do a couple of these boys have to do to be in the Wales squad? Just to get more coverage as a team. Just to be like, what is the secret? Why are you doing so well? And I urge everyone to go and listen to the Scrum Fight pod before the Scarletts game, before Christmas. And it was just a great insight. I remember they interviewed Toby, was it Jack Morgan and Ratsy? Maybe Cuthbert as well? I think so, yeah. And you're just like, this is such a tight-knit group who just love each other and want to play. It shows in what's building. Anything else from the game? I just think that's the sort of game that once the Lions come back into it and score those two tries and quick succession around the hour mark, you know, 66, 74 minutes, that's the sort of game that a year ago the Ospreys would panic and potentially lose, right? And if they did win it, they would have hung on, they would have given away the two bonus points and they wouldn't buy a point, right? There were nine points up against the Lions with, what are we looking, like, a handful of minutes, you know, of an hour to go. And then they concede, you know, two tries and a penalty and they end up losing by a point last year. And instead, this time, they hold out defensively for that fourth try, they don't let any points seep out, they don't give away a single point on the table and they go on and score an extra try. You know, they go on and score that Kieran Williams try. And I think it's a real sign of the growth throughout the full team. And sometimes we talk about that from a kind of game management point of view, the halfbacks purely. And I think a little bit is, you know, Reuben Morgan-Williams is just a mature player and the reason why we froze that intercept for Nohan Baker to go over. And, you know, Morgan-Williams being a bit more settled and a bit more conservative has really worked in our favour in a few of those... He was great. He really was. He was really good. And he has been all season and deserves the credit for that. But yeah, just I think from a full team performance in terms of mentality and in terms of the way they know they're in a game and they see it out and they don't switch off at all. You know, there's no player that is dropping or drifting out of the game at all. Everyone is kind of switched on and focused for the full 18 minutes and knows the task and is able to take what could have been a game that slipped away from them, you know, similar position to last year where they did go on a lose and instead they pulled it out and they win. And they, you know, win pretty competitively, 15 points in the end. Yeah. Yeah. It's a brilliant win. Takes us up to seven. We are ruined not getting the two points from last week. Yeah. We would be level on points with Benetton. And look, we can sit here and say if we'd have won the games that we should have won, right, we'd be top four right now, which is mental, but we are where we are and it's a really good place to be. I'm not going to complain. So let's very quickly go on to good player. Because it's sale week, there's only one game we could do really. And that is Ospreys vs. Sale Week 2021-22 where we lost 45-10, Harry Deeb scored his first ever trip. No, it's not that. It is really depressing. We could have had, as I talked about on a previous week, on the first time we did good player, the previous time that George Fortwell played at the Brewery Fields on his first game of professional rugby for Leicester Tigers. That was mentioned in the Scrum Five interview. I was about to say that. We could do that one, but... We've done it before. We've done it before. We'd be remiss not to do this. I think we'd get shouted at. Of course. And rightly so. I wouldn't be aware of it. So this was Ospreys 17, Sales Shark 16 from the 2006-2007 Heineken Cup. So, do you remember this Heineken Cup at all? Yes, then you would have been about four. So I'm going to say no, you don't. I'm even younger than that. Ah, right. I wouldn't have been. We all would have been quite young. I don't think we were all really watching rugby at this point, were we? This is probably a year before my kind of introduction to the Ospreys and my moment as a baby bird with my eyes lighting up. I watched the 2007 World Cup. I watched the 2007 World Cup. I know that. Because we did a suite. We did a, like a, draw the name of the hat in school 2007 World Cup hat. And I got Namibia. So that went really well for me. So, do you remember who the top point scorer was this year in the Heineken Cup? Oh, God. Take a guess. Paul Grayson. Andy Good. No, Andy Good. You were right. Andy Good. Yep. Brim. Two very contrasting top try scorers of seven tries each. Do you remember who they could have been? One was English. One was French. I'll give you a hint. Vincent Clerc? No. Okay. Cedric Haymon. Yeah. Who was it yesterday? I was just saying that Vincent Clerc was a very good player. Yeah, very good. Vincent Clerc? No, sorry. Cedric Haymon? No. Just name French wingers of this era. So, it was Clement Poitrineau. Oh, okay. Other men with that back three. Toulouse back three. And then Paul Sackie. Oh, yes. So, Paul Sackie, right, is currently, I'm pretty sure, the director of rugby at Gift School, I want to say. Which is in Croydon, right, which is about 10 minutes from where I sat right now. But he went to the same school as my brother-in-law's, which is where Don Brent and stuff went as well. It's just like a good school in Croydon. So, yeah, they were the top scorers. The London Wasps won it, if you remember, dramatically. Leicester. So, let's go into our game. Let's go through the squads. Let's go through the Ospreys one first, because I feel like the sale one's more interesting. So, coached by Lynn Jones, before we just had a career of shit opinions. So, you had Lee Byrne. Good player. Good player. Great player. Shane Williams. Yeah, he was good at rugby this time, wasn't he? Yeah, a world player. He was alright, yeah. Yeah. Sonny Parker. Brilliant. Yeah. Great. Underrated player. Excellent player. Would have been a very young Andrew Bishop. Wow, that would have been a young Andrew Bishop. He would have been a young Andrew Bishop. I had a Wiener next to him the other day. Yeah. At the game the other week. The slowest winger in the world, Nicky Walker. Who, in the famous clip... He was nicknamed. Yeah, in the famous clip from this game, that's the most awful three minutes of his life. I just can't catch a ball. Sean Conner. Okay, who do you think's older? Right, Andrew Bishop. We rank these in order of, like, age. Andrew Bishop, Justin Tipperick, Jonathan Sexton. Right, Sexton's got to be top. He's got to be oldest. He's going to be sitting where he's at, 38. Tipperick's 36. Bishop's got to be 37. Yeah, so there's, like, there's, like, four years, three years between them in total. Andrew Bishop's been retired for nine years. He retired young. Yeah. But then James King retired at 30 as well. James King retired at 30? Wow. Hmm. We were robbed of, like, potentially Andrew Bishop playing in the Pro League, too. I know, man. That would have been gold. Can you imagine a young William Greatbanks coming up against a 38-year-old Andrew Bishop and just being pinched around? He said, kid, you've got a future in South Wales. There's a world in which Bish played under the booth, and that would have been the most beautifully one-dimensional thing I would have ever seen. I would have loved it. OK. So, Sean Conner at 10. Oh. Was drafted in very late after Gavin Henson injured himself. Oh. Now Backs Coach of Wales Women. Yeah. Justin Marshall, who's not Backs Coach of Wales Women. Yeah. Who now says, bump car. Yeah. Me or my yes boy, he sure does. Me or my yes boy. Staple of teenage James is early mornings watching Sky Sports and various super rugby games. Like watching Western Force versus the Cheetahs and just hearing talk about Nick Cummins or something like that. This is just before Scrum 5 had a specialist intro for wherever he was on this show. Whenever he'd come on as a panelist, they'd play a little VT of him getting on the train beforehand. But they wouldn't do it for anyone else. They'd only do it for him, but whenever he came on Scrum 5. So, then we go into Duncan Jones, captain, who played the full game. Oh, yes. I believe. Yeah. He did play the full game. What a player, man. Brilliant player. Barry Williams. Good player. Very good. Very original Ospreys. Yeah. Adam Jones. Yeah, good player. One of the greats. Yeah. Brent Cobain. Very good. Very bold. Very much got sinned in. He had to be there to make up for Adam and Duncan Jones. Yeah. Ian Evans. A young Ian Evans. That would have been a very young Ian Evans, I think. Yeah. There's one name that sticks out of this back row who is like, where's Waldo? Filo Teotia, who was six. Sorry. In age? No. No, no. In skill level. Filo Teotia at six, who for years is my best, my favourite player ever. Steve Tandy. Oh, now we're talking. Sorry. Sorry. Trigger warning for Ospreys fans in mid-2010s. Steve Tandy. Steve Tandy would be regarded as one of those. Yeah. Good player. Yeah. Forgotten completely about him. Good player, if not rich coaching career. Steve Tandy is essentially what Josh Turnbull is. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing flashy. So Josh Turnbull's going to be a British and Irish Lions assistant coach in the future. There's talk of Josh Turnbull taking over RFC. Wow. That's news to me. And then finally, Ryan Jones, who would have been a year coming off impress on the Lions. He was probably Wales' form player at that time, I'd say, actually. Yeah. This would have been captaincy? Lead up to Gatland giving him the word captaincy? Yeah, so this would have been 2007 Six Nations. Yeah. So, yeah. Would have been Ospreys' captain, but following year was given. Yeah. Yeah. Gatland. On the bench, since you have the likes of James Hook, obviously he came on and keeps the winning kick. You had Spice, Jason Spice, Paul James, Hugh Bennett, Jonathan Thomas. Unused was Steffan de Blanche. How can you not use Steffan de Blanche, man? He was so good. We didn't know how good we had it. Yeah. Very handsome, man. Very handsome. And then we go into the sale team. Who managed sale at this time? Do you remember? Kingsley Jones with Philip San André. It was Philip San André, yeah, and Kingsley Jones. Yeah. He ripped apart sale in the post-match. He said, we were in control of the game, presumably with a cigarette in his mouth. We were in control of the game. We were not clinical enough. I was annoyed with our performance, especially during the first ten minutes. We dropped the kick-off, missed three tackles, and saw them score a trade on our black side. He's annoyed at missing three tackles. He should watch his own candidate team. He's apoplectic. No, this is Philip San André. That's Philip San André. Yeah, Kingsley didn't even do the interview. Oh, man. I mean, yes, Kingsley Jones not being accountable for his own actions. What is this? So, let's go into the sale team. He's going to email me again. He's going to email me. Sale team at the time. Fifteen. A man called Jay Robinson. Don't know who he was. Must have been crap. No, of course, Jason Robinson. Pre-injury? Because he got injured going into the 2007 World Cup, I believe. Because he went to club in 2007 World Cup. Actually, he was released at the end of this year. Yeah. Ended up playing for a flight RFC. Yeah. Mark Coyter. Good player. Good player. Right. I'm sure... M Taylor. Is that Mark Taylor? I imagine so. Yeah. Okay. Elvis Seville. I assume it was Elvis. Yeah, great player. Paddy Powell, infamously. Oh, Ripple. Not a clue. Oh, Ripple. I don't know. Not a clue. Charlie Hodgson. Oh, yeah. Charlie. Good player. Great player. Been on for a long... There's a few players in here like, well, you've gone on for a long time. S Martins? Not a clue. Who would it be? S Martins. I don't know. No, I don't... I'm going to check this one because I haven't seen him. Let's have a look. No, let's just think it's Doc Martins. Sail Sharks. S Martins. Celio Martins. Tonga. Yeah. That's who I recognise him from. Oh, God, yeah, no, no, no. He played great for Tonga in 2007 World Cup. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. Oh, man. He started his career at Worcester, then went to Swansea, Bridgend, Celtic Warriors, then went to SAIL, Scarlet, finished his career at Carmarthen, Queens. That's a crazy player, Pat. Yeah. No, he was fantastic. Poor bastards. He played, yeah, for Tonga in the 2007 World Cup, what he did on the podcast, and he was great. Yeah, so Celio Martins was... Scott Harfe. Andrew Sheridan. Yeah, good player. Good player. S Bruno. Sebastian Bruno. French international. Yeah, played for France, good player, great player. Hard bastard. Ben Evans. I assume this is Ben Evans. But yeah, I am right, this is Ben Evans. Yeah, Ben Evans. Ben Evans. Formerly of Swansea, Cardiff Blues. Finished his career at Moseley. Wow. Believe it or not. So yeah, Ben Evans. Good player. Good player. Former Cardiff Met boy, if I believe correctly. That's where he was at when he got his first cap for Wales. C Jones. Can't remember, this is off the top of my head. Chris Jones. Chris Jones, yeah. D Schofield. Dean Schofield. Dean Schofield, good player. Oh man, I like Dean Schofield. Went on to Captain Worcester for a while. Yeah, great, really like... Yeah, was one of those players who is... No, I think he... Yeah, he did play for England. But just like a proper nuggety old school player that you don't get many of nowadays. Was just a massive, massive pain to play against. And that was his main USP. I like Dean Schofield. One of my favourite players next, Jason White. Oh, great player. Hard bastard. Hard bastard. Obviously famously played for Claremont until 2012. Somehow. Again, what a back row this is. Magnus Lund. Oh, good player. Hell of a big hit. Great, loved Magnus Lund. The techno Viking. No, I mean Eric Lund, his brother. Sorry, Eric Lund, his brother. Yeah, Eric Lund. Because Magnus played for England, didn't he? Yeah. And his brother famously played for Norway. Yeah. Magnus Lund. Juan Martin Fernandez Lobby. Mate, one of the greats. What a player. What a man. What a man. On the bench, some notable names. Richard Rigglesworth. He was 33 at this point, I think. Sebastien Chabal. Great player. Yeah, Christian Day, who wasn't used. Future MasterChef winner, Christian Day. And annoying RPA president. So yeah. You can't not talk about this game and talk about a try. 39 or 31 phases or something like that. Or passes. Yeah. The standard of rugby back then was awful. B. God, it meant so much. You could see to them players. Go on, Robbie. You say. No, just I think this is one of the most famous and iconic Osprey strides ever. The endless, endless phase play. Goes on forever. Play goes into, what was it? 96 minutes? No, we were in 88, I think. Oh, wow. Okay, even further. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. James Hook kind of wiggles out wide. They recycle the ball on the blind side. The winger, which would have been one of the wingers anyway. I guess it'd be, yeah. Ripple. Falls off the tackle of Lee Byrne. Who flings it wide to Shane Williams. Who crosses and tries to take it as far under the post as he can. And almost takes it much too close under the post. And almost runs it there. They check it, didn't they? Yeah. They check it. Jason Future checking, which is ironic. Because Mark Quavitt's playing in this game. I'm so sorry, Mark. Yeah. I just, yeah. I remember, like, there's some love. Alan Wynne-Jones at one point runs a beautiful line. And I think he tricks the cameraman as well. Because he runs it towards the post and no one sees. He takes contact really well. But yeah, he was playing. Alan Wynne-Jones. This would have been debut season for Alan Wynne. Who else? Yeah, that last one. It's a classic Lee Byrne run, actually. That last bit where he puts Shane in. Where he pops up in that five-meter channel. And ends up just drifting in another three, four meters. And it's just, that is like. If you hadn't seen Lee Byrne before. That's what he'd do for the next ten years for Wales. Or like, eight years for Wales. Just like, that exact same angle. Being in that five-meter. And then sort of slowly drifting in. And putting someone in. It's just beautiful. It was just. In terms of drama. Ospreys have done dramatic wins before. That's just. That's one of the best of all time. Yeah. For me. The template for Find a Way. Yeah. Hundred percent. Barry Fusco. James Cook. Oh, agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Including for, you know. The Netherlands. I'm extremely excited by it. But, you know. He's coaching at the minute. And you're like. Oh, God. It's Lynn Jones, isn't it? But yeah. James Cook. Nailing the conversion in the last play. Another man that. You know. I will give credit. Not delightfully so. But. Yeah. Hell of a conversion to win it at the end. Owen Williams. This is Leicester, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's the vibe. I think. That's the closest we've come since. Yeah. Going almost tempted to extra time. Yeah. No. It is. It's exactly that. In the Heineken Cup. To beat. The defending champions. Because that's what. And go through. Yeah. And go through. Yeah. Well, we didn't go through this time. In 2007. Did we not? No. We lost on points. A try difference. Oh, man. To the Champions. My daily. My weekly dig at the Scarlets. I said this to the boys off air. And they pissed themselves laughing. So. Scarlet. As they were at the time. Held a very good record. This. This. This competition. So. They. Set the record. For most. Match points. In. In a single campaign. So. They were the fourth team. To ever. Win all their games. Since a bonus points. System was introduced. And they. Earned 27 points. And that was a record. So. They would have been celebrating that. They'd gone through. You know. The. Amazing thing. That record lasted for two hours. And then beer. It's broken. Oh. Right. To finish. What do you think? The music. Charts were like. On the 20th of October. 2006. Oh. God. I bet it's grim. Monster by the automatic. At number two. I. I. I hope so. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 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